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| | | Author: | StormChaser  | | Posted: | Oct 27, 2018 19:31 | | Subject: | Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 147 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends. 
For your convenient reference, we now have a list with links and descriptions
of known part variants which are not distinguished by BrickLink:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
This list is majorly incomplete and I could use some assistance in completing
it. If you're bored and want to gather additional variants not yet shown
on the list, please respond to this message with your list of variants (macro
tags appreciated, but not absolutely necessary).
To save others duplicating work, you might reply first saying you're going
to be working on it.
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| | | | | Author: | LordSkylark | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 00:09 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends.
For your convenient reference, we now have a list with links and descriptions
of known part variants which are not distinguished by BrickLink:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
This list is majorly incomplete and I could use some assistance in completing
it. If you're bored and want to gather additional variants not yet shown
on the list, please respond to this message with your list of variants (macro
tags appreciated, but not absolutely necessary).
To save others duplicating work, you might reply first saying you're going
to be working on it.
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I may be able to do it again.
But a couple I know:
Only has a B variant, no A variant.
Only has B variant (flat), no A variant (rounded)
Only has B variant (rounded corners), no A variant (square corners)
(people mostly WANT the square variant)
Only has B variant (sprue mark), no A variant
(people mostly WANT the A variant)
This is not distinguished in any way. Some windows have a sprue mark in the center
(which is terrible looking) and others do not.
Only has A variant (solid studs), no B variant (hollow studs)
Only has B variant (rounded corners), no A variant (square corners)
(people mostly WANT the A variant)
Only has B variant (X center), no A variant (regular + center)
No variants listed.
Variant A = with a bar on the bottom across the center which prevents a stud
from insertin into it. (this is part 6191)
Variant B = with the bar lowered so that a stud can fit into it (this is part
10314)
THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE AND THE PARTS HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NUMBERS
No variants lsited.
Variant A = completely open on bottom
Variant B = with bars on the bottom
THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE AND SHOULD HAVE ITS OWN ENTRIES
Variant A = no slot for finger
Variant B = with slot for finger
THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE. DUE TO THE EARLY VARIANT, IT MAKES
REMOVING A PART ATTACHED TO THIS VERY DIFFICULT, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN DAMAGE
(see an alternate image which I myself submitted)
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| | | | | | | Author: | LordSkylark | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 00:41 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends.
For your convenient reference, we now have a list with links and descriptions
of known part variants which are not distinguished by BrickLink:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
This list is majorly incomplete and I could use some assistance in completing
it. If you're bored and want to gather additional variants not yet shown
on the list, please respond to this message with your list of variants (macro
tags appreciated, but not absolutely necessary).
To save others duplicating work, you might reply first saying you're going
to be working on it.
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I may be able to do it again.
But a couple I know:
Only has a B variant, no A variant.
Only has B variant (flat), no A variant (rounded)
Only has B variant (rounded corners), no A variant (square corners)
(people mostly WANT the square variant)
Only has B variant (sprue mark), no A variant
(people mostly WANT the A variant)
This is not distinguished in any way. Some windows have a sprue mark in the center
(which is terrible looking) and others do not.
Only has A variant (solid studs), no B variant (hollow studs)
Only has B variant (rounded corners), no A variant (square corners)
(people mostly WANT the A variant)
Only has B variant (X center), no A variant (regular + center)
No variants listed.
Variant A = with a bar on the bottom across the center which prevents a stud
from insertin into it. (this is part 6191)
Variant B = with the bar lowered so that a stud can fit into it (this is part
10314)
THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE AND THE PARTS HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NUMBERS
No variants lsited.
Variant A = completely open on bottom
Variant B = with bars on the bottom
THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE AND SHOULD HAVE ITS OWN ENTRIES
Variant A = no slot for finger
Variant B = with slot for finger
THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE. DUE TO THE EARLY VARIANT, IT MAKES
REMOVING A PART ATTACHED TO THIS VERY DIFFICULT, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN DAMAGE
(see an alternate image which I myself submitted)
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I uploaded an alternate image at one point, which can be seen in the catalog
entry itself. But this shows the friend legs.
The first one is Dark Blue legs with light flesh print.
The second is light flesh legs joined with dark blue hips.
Many friends legs have this variant. I think this is significant enough to warrant
separate entries (unfortunately). And I believe that all of these now have different
parts numbers molded into them too.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | LordSkylark | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 01:10 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Another thing. Do you think it's time for an Aircraft, Stickered category??
[P=30554]
I'm not sure about this one. The B variant is distinguished, but the regular
number seems to be the one without a hole. Should this simpyl receive a catalog
request to be named "30554A"?
The current version is inventoried with a red pivot. There is an alternate version
of this assembly which has a black pivot instead of a red pivot. Considering
that we have now added every variant of the 1x2 brick hinge assemblies, this
would also follow suit to have this.
This may simply need to be renamed to 3063a
This may simply need to be renamed to 4589a
[P=30241]
This only has a B variant.
This only has an A variant.
This only has a B variant.
Perhaps more investigation into alternate number 14395
[P=46212]
I think there are recessed and blocked open studs of this part
This only has an A variant.
This only has an A variant.
* | | 801 Door 1 x 3 x 3 Left with Window and Vertical Handle (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Door, Decorated
Marked for Deletion |
This shouod probably be renamed to 801b.
* | | 802 Door 1 x 3 x 3 Right with Window and Vertical Handle (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Door, Decorated
Marked for Deletion |
This should probably be renamed to 802b.
Only A variant.
Only A variant.
Only A variant.
Only A variant.
Only A variant.
Only A variant.
This only has an A variant.
B only.
B & C only.
B only.
B only.
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Not sure about these, but I listed them anyway.
A only.
Not sure about this one either... But only B.
Only A variant.
Not sure about this one either...
B & C only.
B only.
A only
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 01:24 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
| | Another thing. Do you think it's time for an Aircraft, Stickered category??
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I've no idea. There really aren't any rules for this except the whim
of whomever is deciding. It would be Aircraft, Decorated, though. I just looked
through this category and there do seem to be quite a few decorated parts. I'll
definitely think about it.
Thank you very much for making these lists. They were much needed because I
don't have time at the moment to dig through the catalog and find all of
them. I'll get the variant lists updated as time allows. Once we've
been working on it for a bit the true size of the issue of part variants will
be more readily apparent.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | LordSkylark | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 01:42 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Regarding these train items: It is not clear to me if all variants have already
been listed and if these remained undetermined or what? (I am not familiar with
train items.)
A only.
A only.
The door part of this I would think should be named something other than 966
so that it does not fall into variant number scheme. 966 seems to be the trailer,
so this should probably have a different part number entirely since it is a different
part.
A only
B,C,D only
B only.
B only
etc,
Could be renamed A,B,C
Probably lots more. But these might be all for now. (Did not check any minifigure
related items for sure)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | LordSkylark | | Posted: | Oct 31, 2018 00:59 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Here is another I came across that I'm not sure exactly what the state is...
Should 53989 be renamed "thin support"? These even have entirely different catalog
numbers. It would make it definite that it's not an undetermined (as I do
not think the intention is).
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| | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 01:47 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends.
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Certainly not 
Here are a few more, for the time being:
Variants with U-clips and O-clips not distinguished
Variants with U-clips and O-clips not distinguished
The above two also obviously count for all of the decorated parts these were
in as well.
Only B variant, no A
In the softer plastic version there is a left and right version. not been able
to confirm the existence of left and right versions on the harder plastic ones.
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| | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 02:22 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends.
For your convenient reference, we now have a list with links and descriptions
of known part variants which are not distinguished by BrickLink:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
This list is majorly incomplete and I could use some assistance in completing
it. If you're bored and want to gather additional variants not yet shown
on the list, please respond to this message with your list of variants (macro
tags appreciated, but not absolutely necessary).
To save others duplicating work, you might reply first saying you're going
to be working on it.
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I would prefer to have an alternate large image showing the variations for all
of these items in our catalog. The shark body is a good example for that.
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| | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 04:31 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends.
For your convenient reference, we now have a list with links and descriptions
of known part variants which are not distinguished by BrickLink:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
This list is majorly incomplete and I could use some assistance in completing
it. If you're bored and want to gather additional variants not yet shown
on the list, please respond to this message with your list of variants (macro
tags appreciated, but not absolutely necessary).
To save others duplicating work, you might reply first saying you're going
to be working on it.
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For the list of 'Known part variants not distinguished':
comes in two different angles, just as and (but
the additional picture that illustrated this has gone) and the open classical
open studs are too small for inserting a bar while the newer versions allow this
(same as ).
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and alike: older version has stabilization planes between bottom pins
and the walls that prevent the part being placed on 1/2 stud offset on ,
in newer versions these stabilization planes are lowerd so placing the bricks
on offset is possible.
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comes in two different angles.
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| | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 06:24 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends.
For your convenient reference, we now have a list with links and descriptions
of known part variants which are not distinguished by BrickLink:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940
This list is majorly incomplete and I could use some assistance in completing
it. If you're bored and want to gather additional variants not yet shown
on the list, please respond to this message with your list of variants (macro
tags appreciated, but not absolutely necessary).
To save others duplicating work, you might reply first saying you're going
to be working on it.
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Exists with and without ring at the bottom, as is already described. Looks like
you can already expand the list using info that's already currently in the
catalog? Because I didn't see this one in your list yet.
Exists with long and with short handle (picture is long handle, short handle
is the new type).
How detailed do you want to go? This part exists with closed bottom and more
recently with hole in the bottom.
And of course all 1xX bricks and plates that exist with closed or open bottom
tubes.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Oct 28, 2018 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Catalog Thing | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | How detailed do you want to go?
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As detailed as possible. If there is a variation, however minor, then it should
be on the list. The catalog may not distinguish between certain minor part variations,
but that is what this list is for.
People get frustrated sometimes when a part variant is not accepted into the
catalog, but I don't think many of them realize how disruptive it is to split
catalog listings and how many part variants truly exist. The list will help
all of us, myself included, to grasp a more complete picture of part variations.
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USA, Oklahoma
South Africa, Western Cape
Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
