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 Author: grimsbricksuk View Messages Posted By grimsbricksuk
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 Subject: Jek-14 sw475/sw475a
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Aren’t the two Jek-14 figs sw475 & sw475a essentially the same, as although one
has hair instead of a helmet, the helmet is available in the set & the other
fig which has the helmet also has the hair available in the set.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
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In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  Aren’t the two Jek-14 figs sw475 & sw475a essentially the same, as although one
has hair instead of a helmet, the helmet is available in the set & the other
fig which has the helmet also has the hair available in the set.

According to this
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
"Minifigs - The catalog should only contain minifigs that came in an official
LEGO set or that can be attributed to an official LEGO program, display, activity
or event, regardless of whether the minifig is actually publicly distributed
during or at such program, display, activity or event.
The minifig item should not include hand-held accessories or items defined as
utensils, with the exception of robot winder keys. But do include all other accessories
definable as footgear (flippers, snow shoes, etc.), neckgear (generally defined
as items requiring the removal of the head in order to be placed over the neck,
such as capes, armor, backpacks, etc.) and headgear (hair, helmets, etc.), and
assembled parts serving as such, when these are shown attached to the minifig
in official LEGO set instructions
. For instructions with images showing the
minifig in a play scenario, refer only to the portion of the instructions
concerned with assembling the minifig
. If no official instructions were produced,
then illustrations on packaging or other marketing materials directly related
to the minifig may be used instead for this guide purpose."
so
[m=sw475]
in instruction for set
 
Set No: 75018  Name: Jek-14's Stealth Starfighter
* 
75018-1 (Inv) Jek-14's Stealth Starfighter
533 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Yoda Chronicles
is shown build with helmet first
and
[m=sw475a]
in instruction for set
 
Set No: comcon032  Name: JEK-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter - San Diego Comic-Con 2013 Exclusive
* 
comcon032-1 (Inv) JEK-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter - San Diego Comic-Con 2013 Exclusive
123 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Yoda Chronicles
is shown build with hair first
Pages from instructions attached

There is more such situations
Ezra for example
[m=sw574]
[m=sw574a]
 


 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  Aren’t the two Jek-14 figs sw475 & sw475a essentially the same, as although one
has hair instead of a helmet, the helmet is available in the set & the other
fig which has the helmet also has the hair available in the set.

According to this
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
"Minifigs - The catalog should only contain minifigs that came in an official
LEGO set or that can be attributed to an official LEGO program, display, activity
or event, regardless of whether the minifig is actually publicly distributed
during or at such program, display, activity or event.
The minifig item should not include hand-held accessories or items defined as
utensils, with the exception of robot winder keys. But do include all other accessories
definable as footgear (flippers, snow shoes, etc.), neckgear (generally defined
as items requiring the removal of the head in order to be placed over the neck,
such as capes, armor, backpacks, etc.) and headgear (hair, helmets, etc.), and
assembled parts serving as such, when these are shown attached to the minifig
in official LEGO set instructions
. For instructions with images showing the
minifig in a play scenario, refer only to the portion of the instructions
concerned with assembling the minifig
. If no official instructions were produced,
then illustrations on packaging or other marketing materials directly related
to the minifig may be used instead for this guide purpose."
so
[m=sw475]
in instruction for set
 
Set No: 75018  Name: Jek-14's Stealth Starfighter
* 
75018-1 (Inv) Jek-14's Stealth Starfighter
533 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Yoda Chronicles
is shown build with helmet first
and
[m=sw475a]
in instruction for set
 
Set No: comcon032  Name: JEK-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter - San Diego Comic-Con 2013 Exclusive
* 
comcon032-1 (Inv) JEK-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter - San Diego Comic-Con 2013 Exclusive
123 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Yoda Chronicles
is shown build with hair first
Pages from instructions attached

There is more such situations
Ezra for example
[m=sw574]
[m=sw574a]

P.S.

That is why you have also in catalog this:
[m=sw707]
[m=sw471]
exactly the same minifig
 Author: grimsbricksuk View Messages Posted By grimsbricksuk
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If this is the case & were going by the instructions, then why doesn’t sw475
include the hair & sw475a include the helmet within the minifig inventories?

In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  Aren’t the two Jek-14 figs sw475 & sw475a essentially the same, as although one
has hair instead of a helmet, the helmet is available in the set & the other
fig which has the helmet also has the hair available in the set.

According to this
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
"Minifigs - The catalog should only contain minifigs that came in an official
LEGO set or that can be attributed to an official LEGO program, display, activity
or event, regardless of whether the minifig is actually publicly distributed
during or at such program, display, activity or event.
The minifig item should not include hand-held accessories or items defined as
utensils, with the exception of robot winder keys. But do include all other accessories
definable as footgear (flippers, snow shoes, etc.), neckgear (generally defined
as items requiring the removal of the head in order to be placed over the neck,
such as capes, armor, backpacks, etc.) and headgear (hair, helmets, etc.), and
assembled parts serving as such, when these are shown attached to the minifig
in official LEGO set instructions
. For instructions with images showing the
minifig in a play scenario, refer only to the portion of the instructions
concerned with assembling the minifig
. If no official instructions were produced,
then illustrations on packaging or other marketing materials directly related
to the minifig may be used instead for this guide purpose."
so
[m=sw475]
in instruction for set
 
Set No: 75018  Name: Jek-14's Stealth Starfighter
* 
75018-1 (Inv) Jek-14's Stealth Starfighter
533 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Yoda Chronicles
is shown build with helmet first
and
[m=sw475a]
in instruction for set
 
Set No: comcon032  Name: JEK-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter - San Diego Comic-Con 2013 Exclusive
* 
comcon032-1 (Inv) JEK-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter - San Diego Comic-Con 2013 Exclusive
123 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Yoda Chronicles
is shown build with hair first
Pages from instructions attached

There is more such situations
Ezra for example
[m=sw574]
[m=sw574a]
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Aug 12, 2018 19:04
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In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  If this is the case & were going by the instructions, then why doesn’t sw475
include the hair & sw475a include the helmet within the minifig inventories?

Because those parts are included in the set inventories. Minifigure inventories
only include the parts specifically shown in the set instructions for the initial
assembly of that figure. If figure inventories included all the accessories
which could be included, then the level of complexity would rise high enough
that buying and selling them would be problematic.

Minifigures are actually counterparts, meaning part assemblies constructed of
other parts. They rarely come fully assembled.

At some point in the future, set inventories will include all of the minifigure
parts and minifigures themselves will be treated the same way counterparts are
now. For this to happen, though, some improvements to the inventory system need
to happen. Those improvements are in the works.
 Author: grimsbricksuk View Messages Posted By grimsbricksuk
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Please can the two minifigs be renamed slighly to identify with & without hair/helmet.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  If this is the case & were going by the instructions, then why doesn’t sw475
include the hair & sw475a include the helmet within the minifig inventories?

Because those parts are included in the set inventories. Minifigure inventories
only include the parts specifically shown in the set instructions for the initial
assembly of that figure. If figure inventories included all the accessories
which could be included, then the level of complexity would rise high enough
that buying and selling them would be problematic.

Minifigures are actually counterparts, meaning part assemblies constructed of
other parts. They rarely come fully assembled.

At some point in the future, set inventories will include all of the minifigure
parts and minifigures themselves will be treated the same way counterparts are
now. For this to happen, though, some improvements to the inventory system need
to happen. Those improvements are in the works.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  Please can the two minifigs be renamed slighly to identify with & without hair/helmet.

That would be something to ask the catalog administrators. You may do so using
this form:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=M
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I’m also aware of the rare white head Jek-14, would it be worth adding a new
minifig variant to the catalog?

In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  Aren’t the two Jek-14 figs sw475 & sw475a essentially the same, as although one
has hair instead of a helmet, the helmet is available in the set & the other
fig which has the helmet also has the hair available in the set.
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In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  I’m also aware of the rare white head Jek-14, would it be worth adding a new
minifig variant to the catalog?

In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  Aren’t the two Jek-14 figs sw475 & sw475a essentially the same, as although one
has hair instead of a helmet, the helmet is available in the set & the other
fig which has the helmet also has the hair available in the set.

White head??? Ok I want 1 for my complete collection
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In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  I’m also aware of the rare white head Jek-14, would it be worth adding a new
minifig variant to the catalog?

Couldn't it be test print only?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1104831
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  I’m also aware of the rare white head Jek-14, would it be worth adding a new
minifig variant to the catalog?

Couldn't it be test print only?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1104831

I have one in my collection and have been confused for years. I have been searching
for information about it but have found none. I originally thought it was a
head to another minifigure completely but it pops up on bricklink under jek.
You have to piece him out and look up just his head but the white variant is
present.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=3626cpb1012&colorID=1

Does anyone know any information on this head or where it came from?
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From an employee or out of the factory. Like this
 
Part No: 19916  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Darth Vader Type 2 Top
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19916 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Darth Vader Type 2 Top
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear {Trans-Clear}
Obviously not from a set.


In Catalog, davidschweer writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  I’m also aware of the rare white head Jek-14, would it be worth adding a new
minifig variant to the catalog?

Couldn't it be test print only?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1104831

I have one in my collection and have been confused for years. I have been searching
for information about it but have found none. I originally thought it was a
head to another minifigure completely but it pops up on bricklink under jek.
You have to piece him out and look up just his head but the white variant is
present.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=3626cpb1012&colorID=1

Does anyone know any information on this head or where it came from?
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There are dozens of minifig heads that are produced in other non standard colours,
known as test prints.
Produced in batches and given away by Lego which then make their way into the
market.

In Catalog, davidschweer writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  I’m also aware of the rare white head Jek-14, would it be worth adding a new
minifig variant to the catalog?

Couldn't it be test print only?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1104831

I have one in my collection and have been confused for years. I have been searching
for information about it but have found none. I originally thought it was a
head to another minifigure completely but it pops up on bricklink under jek.
You have to piece him out and look up just his head but the white variant is
present.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=3626cpb1012&colorID=1

Does anyone know any information on this head or where it came from?