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 Author: alexander123 View Messages Posted By alexander123
 Posted: Aug 26, 2017 15:40
 Subject: sort by remarks for parting out
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alexander123 (2690)

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It would be nice to sort by remarks for parting out a set.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Aug 26, 2017 16:11
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Teup (6593)

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In Suggestions, alexander123 writes:
  It would be nice to sort by remarks for parting out a set.

I don't understand what you mean exactly.. remarks are still to be entered
in the process of parting out; how could it be sorted by remarks from the start?
 Author: Pippysblocks View Messages Posted By Pippysblocks
 Posted: Aug 26, 2017 17:05
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In Suggestions, alexander123 writes:
  It would be nice to sort by remarks for parting out a set.

If you use Brickstock you can select 'chuck' of items and mass add remarks
comments that way, if that's what you mean. That's how I tend to do
it.
 Author: BLUSER_730979 View Messages Posted By BLUSER_730979
 Posted: Aug 27, 2017 07:04
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Hi,
I have already made similar request, as I need to work out where my 40k+ parts
are in the store, especially the odd stranger item it would be good not to have
to tab the item to find out where it is stored.

However the older BL member hate change and BL absolutely refuses to consider
that we as sellers actually supply the funds that make the website happen, so
you can forget about any changes....

I have added my vote, despite the worthlessness of it!

Good luck with your store - I would suggest you right click the item inventory
and open the item in a new tab - am forced to do this on most new sets on at
least one or two items.

I have also asked BL(and so have others) to provide an option to sort by condition
and item number, but again the old farts on the site, advise that we are "doing
it" wrong if you store your parts by item number rather than category. And of
course BL Admin are happy to take profit from you each month and are not interested
how long it takes to get the parts in or out....in their eyes we are NOT the
customers the buyers are!

Good luck with your store,
Kind regards,
Dave
Brick Recycling WA
 Author: WFMTF View Messages Posted By WFMTF
 Posted: Aug 27, 2017 08:29
 Subject: Re: sort by remarks for parting out
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In Suggestions, BRWA writes:
  Hi,
I have already made similar request, as I need to work out where my 40k+ parts
are in the store, especially the odd stranger item it would be good not to have
to tab the item to find out where it is stored.

However the older BL member hate change and BL absolutely refuses to consider
that we as sellers actually supply the funds that make the website happen, so
you can forget about any changes....

I have added my vote, despite the worthlessness of it!

Good luck with your store - I would suggest you right click the item inventory
and open the item in a new tab - am forced to do this on most new sets on at
least one or two items.

I have also asked BL(and so have others) to provide an option to sort by condition
and item number, but again the old farts on the site, advise that we are "doing
it" wrong if you store your parts by item number rather than category. And of
course BL Admin are happy to take profit from you each month and are not interested
how long it takes to get the parts in or out....in their eyes we are NOT the
customers the buyers are!

Good luck with your store,
Kind regards,
Davec
Brick Recycling WA

Sorry, you are not right!
If you need the site to find your items (not even 20000), something is wrong
with your system.
And everyone working in the company of BrickLink wants to improve the site for
everyone!
I am now over 60 years old and NEVER stopped learning and being interested for
new things.
I like the improvements and the new style.
This is my opinion and maybe worth to think about.
Waltraud
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Aug 27, 2017 08:43
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In Suggestions, BRWA writes:
  Hi,
I have already made similar request, as I need to work out where my 40k+ parts
are in the store, especially the odd stranger item it would be good not to have
to tab the item to find out where it is stored.

However the older BL member hate change and BL absolutely refuses to consider
that we as sellers actually supply the funds that make the website happen, so
you can forget about any changes....

I have added my vote, despite the worthlessness of it!

Good luck with your store - I would suggest you right click the item inventory
and open the item in a new tab - am forced to do this on most new sets on at
least one or two items.

I have also asked BL(and so have others) to provide an option to sort by condition
and item number, but again the old farts on the site, advise that we are "doing
it" wrong if you store your parts by item number rather than category. And of
course BL Admin are happy to take profit from you each month and are not interested
how long it takes to get the parts in or out....in their eyes we are NOT the
customers the buyers are!

Good luck with your store,
Kind regards,
Dave
Brick Recycling WA

Could someone please explain the actual suggestion, because I still don't
understand? You mean to have the parto-out inventory list of a set sorted by
your own remarks, but how is that possible when remarks are still to be added
at the moment the list is generated? I really don't understand what's
being suggested here and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Anyway: Bricklink changes things alot, so don't say that.. Also, yes, if
for some sellers something is not to their taste, it's worth adding that
feature, but to say that Bricklink doesn't care is really taking it too far;
Most sellers are not running into this problem at all. Otherwise there would
have been massive support. I personally never use the remark field for storage
purposes, and I have 500k parts and can find everything easily. I don't understand
the suggestion and when I do it will probably be useless to me, though I'm
willing to vote along if it looks like something logical and generally useful
to have in the toolkit of options.
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, BRWA writes:
  Hi,
I have already made similar request, as I need to work out where my 40k+ parts
are in the store, especially the odd stranger item it would be good not to have
to tab the item to find out where it is stored.

However the older BL member hate change and BL absolutely refuses to consider
that we as sellers actually supply the funds that make the website happen, so
you can forget about any changes....

I have added my vote, despite the worthlessness of it!

Good luck with your store - I would suggest you right click the item inventory
and open the item in a new tab - am forced to do this on most new sets on at
least one or two items.

I have also asked BL(and so have others) to provide an option to sort by condition
and item number, but again the old farts on the site, advise that we are "doing
it" wrong if you store your parts by item number rather than category. And of
course BL Admin are happy to take profit from you each month and are not interested
how long it takes to get the parts in or out....in their eyes we are NOT the
customers the buyers are!

Good luck with your store,
Kind regards,
Dave
Brick Recycling WA

Could someone please explain the actual suggestion, because I still don't
understand? You mean to have the parto-out inventory list of a set sorted by
your own remarks, but how is that possible when remarks are still to be added
at the moment the list is generated? I really don't understand what's
being suggested here and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Anyway: Bricklink changes things alot, so don't say that.. Also, yes, if
for some sellers something is not to their taste, it's worth adding that
feature, but to say that Bricklink doesn't care is really taking it too far;
Most sellers are not running into this problem at all. Otherwise there would
have been massive support. I personally never use the remark field for storage
purposes, and I have 500k parts and can find everything easily. I don't understand
the suggestion and when I do it will probably be useless to me, though I'm
willing to vote along if it looks like something logical and generally useful
to have in the toolkit of options.

And what I completely forgot to write is that customer care alsways had been
and will be one of the most important thing, because without costomers NO shop
could survive, so BrickLink cares over the customers all the stores.
Waltraud
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Aug 27, 2017 23:40
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, BRWA writes:
  Hi,
I have already made similar request, as I need to work out where my 40k+ parts
are in the store, especially the odd stranger item it would be good not to have
to tab the item to find out where it is stored.

However the older BL member hate change and BL absolutely refuses to consider
that we as sellers actually supply the funds that make the website happen, so
you can forget about any changes....

I have added my vote, despite the worthlessness of it!

Good luck with your store - I would suggest you right click the item inventory
and open the item in a new tab - am forced to do this on most new sets on at
least one or two items.

I have also asked BL(and so have others) to provide an option to sort by condition
and item number, but again the old farts on the site, advise that we are "doing
it" wrong if you store your parts by item number rather than category. And of
course BL Admin are happy to take profit from you each month and are not interested
how long it takes to get the parts in or out....in their eyes we are NOT the
customers the buyers are!

Good luck with your store,
Kind regards,
Dave
Brick Recycling WA

Could someone please explain the actual suggestion, because I still don't
understand? You mean to have the parto-out inventory list of a set sorted by
your own remarks, but how is that possible when remarks are still to be added
at the moment the list is generated? I really don't understand what's
being suggested here and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

The only thing I can come up with, is that they want BL to show remarks during
part-out for lots that are already in current inventory. So it might show a remark
when the part-out shows black technic pins (copied from the existing pins lot
in their inventory), but it won't show a remark for a new technic panel (as
they don't yet have that part in inventory).

Niek.
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In Suggestions, alexander123 writes:
  It would be nice to sort by remarks for parting out a set.

Could you walk us through the process you currently follow to part-out a set
and what you want to change and how that would work, because like most posters
here it's a bit confusing in your post.
 Author: BLUSER_730979 View Messages Posted By BLUSER_730979
 Posted: Aug 27, 2017 19:26
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Hi,
Got to love that responses from people. For those with a perfect memory it must
be great to know where every piece, or be able to afford a really good storage
system where each part can be found.

Someone us have capabilities which do not include a good memory - hence using
the remarks guides us to where an item is stored, for example I have different
coloured draw systems which are different sizes. Items are stored based on quantity
and part size, so small parts where there are lots maybe stored along side a
large item of one.

Then items like Bionicles and Hero parts I store in bags labelled to the part
in boxes because these are not commonly ordered and are rare anyway.

So when a part is ordered I know where to look for it, bag, box or drawer.

Now when an item is parted out, mostly existing items will have a remark against
it - advising where it is stored, currently the existing remark do not come up
and the inventory option has to right clicked and viewed in a new tab. So when
you part out or are supplying for an order it is easy to collect/store all the
items in storage and add or remove as needed with minimal effort.

Having the option to see the remark at part out and to be able to view an order
by condition and then item number is suitable for some people. It suits me and
others who have also requested it previously and been shouted down aggressively!

At the end of the day, people are diverse, and unfortunately it seems that the
people who are either politically correct or consider that their perspective
is the right and only view shout down and ridicule, or treat poorly those that
are a minority or view things differently.
In my opinion BL is one of the most intolerant sites I have been on, where suggestions
and needs of people who sit out the "standard" are ridiculed or ignored. Just
have to look at the way people speak to each other.

The best example I have is when I simply asked that BL add the word "please"
to the Pay Now" order that comes up when your fees are due. I was so ridiculed
and BL was the first to reject the request.

If you do not agree with something, how about taking the time to asking why a
person feels this way instead of rejecting them out of hand and not "because
I have 50k of parts I know where everything is in my store - so you should too!"
Yes if I have basic items like bricks and plates - easy. But I am not a Bionicle
fan and mostly I could not tell a weapon from a body part but I can tell you
whether I have a part and where it is my store by using the remark information
below each item.

There is an Autistic young man in Australia who could not properly feed or care
for himself, however he earns his living building flat pack furniture - would
you ridicule him if he could not cook you a meal? Or praise him because he can
build flat pack furniture? Neither option is correct - he is simply a diverse
person viewing, and living the world in a different way to others. Looked at
differently some people can cook you a 5 star meal, another can design a 50 storey
high rise - both are separate abilities are not judged on the same level. So
stop judging, or demanding that people stop wanting something because they want
do or be something different!

I think BL is persuaded by the people who shout down suggestions, allowing the
admin to be lazy or accept that variations to the program are unnecessary, and
people are too scared to make suggestions because each post is met with some
sort of rejection. Often coming from people who are a little too aggressive.

So because you do not want a change - so simply do not use the option! I am not
forcing you to change YOUR store or to be different person. The suggestions are
being made because this will help a Seller get items into and out of their store
in the manner they deem efficient.

Meaning that there are more parts available to the buyer at that ONE store, the
seller can get the order out quicker, items are less like to be "lost" and buyers
are then more likely to return to the store and the website because they hade
a good experience. Is that not the aim of every seller?

Please respect that others do want changes and when they take the time to write
a post, they do so wanting some change, and not because they want to get into
a fight with other people on BL or to be emotionally crushed simply because they
do not have the capacity to remember where 50K are located in their store or
they simply think that something would work better for them!

Kind regards,
Dave
Brick Recycling WA
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In Suggestions, BRWA writes:
  Hi,
Got to love that responses from people. For those with a perfect memory it must
be great to know where every piece, or be able to afford a really good storage
system where each part can be found.

Hey, please, be kind. People do not understand what is being suggested here.
They are showing kindness in showing an interest. That is unusual, we could just
as well completely ignore the entire thread.

  Someone us have capabilities which do not include a good memory - hence using
the remarks guides us to where an item is stored, for example I have different
coloured draw systems which are different sizes. Items are stored based on quantity
and part size, so small parts where there are lots maybe stored along side a
large item of one.

Then items like Bionicles and Hero parts I store in bags labelled to the part
in boxes because these are not commonly ordered and are rare anyway.

So when a part is ordered I know where to look for it, bag, box or drawer.

Well, yes, you don't actually need to explain remark sorting, alot of people
do this.

  Now when an item is parted out, mostly existing items will have a remark against
it - advising where it is stored, currently the existing remark do not come up
and the inventory option has to right clicked and viewed in a new tab. So when
you part out or are supplying for an order it is easy to collect/store all the
items in storage and add or remove as needed with minimal effort.

So I am figuring out now that the suggestion is to have lots (partly) consolidated
into existing inventory with existing remarks, even on screen 1 before the items
are being submitted, like qwertyboy guessed, is that it? That sounds confusing
to me, I thought that the logic is that first you create a list of inventory
to add, that is page 1, and only after this it is matched against existing inventory
and any conflicts are resolved in the way you can already fully customise (use
old/new/concatenated remarks), that is page 2. On page 2 you actually see your
existing remarks.

  At the end of the day, people are diverse, and unfortunately it seems that the
people who are either politically correct or consider that their perspective
is the right and only view shout down and ridicule, or treat poorly those that
are a minority or view things differently.

...I don't know where you got that idea.

  In my opinion BL is one of the most intolerant sites I have been on, where suggestions
and needs of people who sit out the "standard" are ridiculed or ignored. Just
have to look at the way people speak to each other.

I have been here for 10 years and I don't understand what you are referring
to.

  The best example I have is when I simply asked that BL add the word "please"
to the Pay Now" order that comes up when your fees are due. I was so ridiculed
and BL was the first to reject the request.

I am sorry that you had this experience. But comparing people who ridiculed you
to people who are politely showing an interest in this thread.. that way you'll
end up with negative experiences again and also for other people it's not
a nice comparison.

  If you do not agree with something, how about taking the time to asking why a
person feels this way instead of rejecting them out of hand and not "because
I have 50k of parts I know where everything is in my store - so you should too!"

Nobody said "you should too".. But yes, whenever someone, anyone, suggests something
here that is not already there, the first zero-hypothesis should be that the
person misunderstood something, not that the website is bad. People will want
to check first if you understand everything properly. That is not ridiculing
or judging, it is offering help. It would be silly to implement a suggestion
that comes from ignorance. If after this check the desire persists, then the
suggestion is useful.

  Yes if I have basic items like bricks and plates - easy. But I am not a Bionicle
fan and mostly I could not tell a weapon from a body part but I can tell you
whether I have a part and where it is my store by using the remark information
below each item.

Fine, then use remark based sorting. I use category based sorting. Seems you
think I was boasting about my memory or something. I never mentioned the word
memory. I think category based sorting is superiour and faster, but it's
my point of view. If you do remark based, sure, knock yourself out. People all
use their own system and the nice thing about Bricklink is that you can customise
things really well. It's really a big strength of this website.

  
There is an Autistic young man in Australia who could not properly feed or care
for himself, however he earns his living building flat pack furniture - would
you ridicule him if he could not cook you a meal? Or praise him because he can
build flat pack furniture? Neither option is correct - he is simply a diverse
person viewing, and living the world in a different way to others. Looked at
differently some people can cook you a 5 star meal, another can design a 50 storey
high rise - both are separate abilities are not judged on the same level. So
stop judging, or demanding that people stop wanting something because they want
do or be something different!

Ok.. I wasn't judging, and will continue not to. I tried to show some interest.

  
I think BL is persuaded by the people who shout down suggestions, allowing the
admin to be lazy or accept that variations to the program are unnecessary, and
people are too scared to make suggestions because each post is met with some
sort of rejection. Often coming from people who are a little too aggressive.

Your post comes off really unkind. To me, your reply is the only one that stands
out as unfriendly. Bricklink is made up of many different people who just happen
to share a common hobby or job. There is no need to talk in terms of "you
guys". There are nice and less nice people just like everywhere else, but in
my experience Bricklinkers are exceptionally nice. I hope you will see that too
at some point, I really think your bad experiences were exceptions with exceptional
members.


  So because you do not want a change - so simply do not use the option! I am not
forcing you to change YOUR store or to be different person. The suggestions are
being made because this will help a Seller get items into and out of their store
in the manner they deem efficient.

I totally agreed already. Literally me:
"I don't understand the suggestion and when I do it will probably be useless
to me, though I'm willing to vote along if it looks like something logical
and generally useful to have in the toolkit of options."

I was offering to vote for something I don't need.

I think this is just a misunderstanding. In my mind there is no conflict or judging
people or anything so I am just not interested really spending energy on thinking
about such things, and I didn't see anyone who is, so for my part there's
no need to go on about this. We've all got better things to do with our lives,
right? Here the weather is really nice so I will be outside soon and will have
completely forgotten about this thread

Soooo Let's focus on the actual suggestion. It is about displaying existing
inventory lot remarks on page 1 of the part-out procedure already? On page 2
you neatly see what is already in your inventory, and how it will be consolidated.
Is there a real benefit to having remarks shown on page 1 already? (And what
if there are several lots in inventory that match the part out lot?)

(To optimise chances of having a suggestion implemented, it's useful to fully
describe the current problem and the way that the proposed system would work.
That way more people will vote.)
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Hi,
the same two suggestions have come up repeatedly:

Part out by remark.

Buyer Orders sorted by condition and item number.

Whenever either option is suggested more "experienced" BL sellers knock down
the suggestion because they claim category based storage is better. So because
of this neither option is voted forward and BL does nothing.

For this reason I am sick of both sellers and BL admin for refusing to look at
the issue directly and except that for some people the two options above would
work better for the sellers based on number of reasons.

Cost of storage
The way a person things
The diversity of parts
The diversity of orders/clients that shop in the store.

A lot of the older BL sellers would have grown with the BL old owner and adjusted
their storage system with what worked at the time, however Lego has 10K+ parts
with variations of many parts. The older sellers would have been used of dealing
with type A and newer variations as they have been produced of a part, whereas
us newer sellers who may have handled type A when building, are having to work
out that when it comes to selling a part with A, B or even C and D variation
of a part it can be come tricky, especially when the new part has a different
number. So making it easy to identify whether a part is older that 2000, 2010
or made in the last few years, using the numbering of parts, takes the stress
out of ensuring that the buyer gets the right variation. I think for this reason
the above requests are going to be repeated and repeated. And older sellers keep
rejecting it - but because the new sellers want the above options it is going
to keep causing friction.

At this point I am starting to look at the alternatives to using BL simply because
I am sick of the smacking my head against the wall. Why am I paying fees when
suggestions are ignored?

And like I say, if a person makes a suggestion, why should another person post
that the suggestion is waste of time? - when a person makes the time to post
a suggestion they have thought about the idea and consider it a good one.

Again just because you do not want it, does not make the idea bad. And I believe
every time someone posts that the consider the idea bad, people refuse to vote
positive because they are not sure on whether they will be trolled for doing
so, and secondly I believe BL admin uses the same responses to ignore the suggestions.

Kind regards,
Dave
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I honestly think that you are replying to an entirely different thread. I can't
see anything in your posts that supports or clarifies the original posters suggestion.

You may know exactly what they are referring to but it is evident that I and
others don't and are doing their best to clarify.

I never said one way is better than another and could not care less how anyone
chooses to run their storage solutions, however before I vote on something I
need to know what it is.

Instead of spending so much time giving out about something irrelevant to OP's
suggestion, why not in simple terms, preferably with links to relevant BL pages,
detail what the issue and and stop going on and on about other issues and passed
experiences.


In Suggestions, BRWA writes:
  Hi,
the same two suggestions have come up repeatedly:

Part out by remark.

Buyer Orders sorted by condition and item number.

Whenever either option is suggested more "experienced" BL sellers knock down
the suggestion because they claim category based storage is better. So because
of this neither option is voted forward and BL does nothing.

For this reason I am sick of both sellers and BL admin for refusing to look at
the issue directly and except that for some people the two options above would
work better for the sellers based on number of reasons.

Cost of storage
The way a person things
The diversity of parts
The diversity of orders/clients that shop in the store.

A lot of the older BL sellers would have grown with the BL old owner and adjusted
their storage system with what worked at the time, however Lego has 10K+ parts
with variations of many parts. The older sellers would have been used of dealing
with type A and newer variations as they have been produced of a part, whereas
us newer sellers who may have handled type A when building, are having to work
out that when it comes to selling a part with A, B or even C and D variation
of a part it can be come tricky, especially when the new part has a different
number. So making it easy to identify whether a part is older that 2000, 2010
or made in the last few years, using the numbering of parts, takes the stress
out of ensuring that the buyer gets the right variation. I think for this reason
the above requests are going to be repeated and repeated. And older sellers keep
rejecting it - but because the new sellers want the above options it is going
to keep causing friction.

At this point I am starting to look at the alternatives to using BL simply because
I am sick of the smacking my head against the wall. Why am I paying fees when
suggestions are ignored?

And like I say, if a person makes a suggestion, why should another person post
that the suggestion is waste of time? - when a person makes the time to post
a suggestion they have thought about the idea and consider it a good one.

Again just because you do not want it, does not make the idea bad. And I believe
every time someone posts that the consider the idea bad, people refuse to vote
positive because they are not sure on whether they will be trolled for doing
so, and secondly I believe BL admin uses the same responses to ignore the suggestions.

Kind regards,
Dave
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Teup (6593)

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In Suggestions, BRWA writes:
  Whenever either option is suggested more "experienced" BL sellers knock down
the suggestion because they claim category based storage is better. So because
of this neither option is voted forward and BL does nothing.

Really? Cool, I thought I was one of the few who sort by category.

  
For this reason I am sick of both sellers and BL admin for refusing to look at
the issue directly and except that for some people the two options above would
work better for the sellers based on number of reasons.

We are trying to look at "the issue", but first we must know what the issue is.
People keep asking and nobody describes, it's a kind of mystery. Why am I
even wasting my time here? Seems I am really bored

  Cost of storage
The way a person things
The diversity of parts
The diversity of orders/clients that shop in the store.

A lot of the older BL sellers would have grown with the BL old owner and adjusted
their storage system with what worked at the time, however Lego has 10K+ parts
with variations of many parts. The older sellers would have been used of dealing
with type A and newer variations as they have been produced of a part, whereas
us newer sellers who may have handled type A when building, are having to work
out that when it comes to selling a part with A, B or even C and D variation
of a part it can be come tricky, especially when the new part has a different
number. So making it easy to identify whether a part is older that 2000, 2010
or made in the last few years, using the numbering of parts, takes the stress
out of ensuring that the buyer gets the right variation.

Yes, that's a good (and common) argument for remark based selling. It's
one of the reasons many sellers do this.

  At this point I am starting to look at the alternatives to using BL simply because
I am sick of the smacking my head against the wall. Why am I paying fees when
suggestions are ignored?

You cannot expect them to handle all suggestions. I have a few suggestions that
are not really suggestions but what I consider to be serious problems that needed
to be addressed yesterday, you are really not the only one, alot of members have
this. But it just takes time. Too long, yes, I also think they don't talk
with us enough, but the way you are describing it is really an exaggeration in
my opinion.

  And like I say, if a person makes a suggestion, why should another person post
that the suggestion is waste of time?

Can't think of a reason, and I don't see anyone who did.

  Again just because you do not want it, does not make the idea bad. And I believe
every time someone posts that the consider the idea bad, people refuse to vote
positive because they are not sure on whether they will be trolled for doing
so, and secondly I believe BL admin uses the same responses to ignore the suggestions.

You are still really unfriendly. Now you are also calling people trolls. The
Bricklink community deserves better than how you describe them.

On topic: I see now that on screen 2 the remarks of the lots they are being merged
into are not mentioned. I thought they were but there's just LotIDs. I guess
adding remarks there would be simple to implement and could be useful.
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My reply was to the original poster, who I was interested in helping by understanding
the query - I still am, I don't have the time to deal with all your issues
with BL etc. Fair play to Teup, he gave you some great answers.

In Suggestions, BRWA writes:
  Hi,
Got to love that responses from people. For those with a perfect memory it must
be great to know where every piece, or be able to afford a really good storage
system where each part can be found.

Someone us have capabilities which do not include a good memory - hence using
the remarks guides us to where an item is stored, for example I have different
coloured draw systems which are different sizes. Items are stored based on quantity
and part size, so small parts where there are lots maybe stored along side a
large item of one.

Then items like Bionicles and Hero parts I store in bags labelled to the part
in boxes because these are not commonly ordered and are rare anyway.

So when a part is ordered I know where to look for it, bag, box or drawer.

Now when an item is parted out, mostly existing items will have a remark against
it - advising where it is stored, currently the existing remark do not come up
and the inventory option has to right clicked and viewed in a new tab. So when
you part out or are supplying for an order it is easy to collect/store all the
items in storage and add or remove as needed with minimal effort.

Having the option to see the remark at part out and to be able to view an order
by condition and then item number is suitable for some people. It suits me and
others who have also requested it previously and been shouted down aggressively!

At the end of the day, people are diverse, and unfortunately it seems that the
people who are either politically correct or consider that their perspective
is the right and only view shout down and ridicule, or treat poorly those that
are a minority or view things differently.
In my opinion BL is one of the most intolerant sites I have been on, where suggestions
and needs of people who sit out the "standard" are ridiculed or ignored. Just
have to look at the way people speak to each other.

The best example I have is when I simply asked that BL add the word "please"
to the Pay Now" order that comes up when your fees are due. I was so ridiculed
and BL was the first to reject the request.

If you do not agree with something, how about taking the time to asking why a
person feels this way instead of rejecting them out of hand and not "because
I have 50k of parts I know where everything is in my store - so you should too!"
Yes if I have basic items like bricks and plates - easy. But I am not a Bionicle
fan and mostly I could not tell a weapon from a body part but I can tell you
whether I have a part and where it is my store by using the remark information
below each item.

There is an Autistic young man in Australia who could not properly feed or care
for himself, however he earns his living building flat pack furniture - would
you ridicule him if he could not cook you a meal? Or praise him because he can
build flat pack furniture? Neither option is correct - he is simply a diverse
person viewing, and living the world in a different way to others. Looked at
differently some people can cook you a 5 star meal, another can design a 50 storey
high rise - both are separate abilities are not judged on the same level. So
stop judging, or demanding that people stop wanting something because they want
do or be something different!

I think BL is persuaded by the people who shout down suggestions, allowing the
admin to be lazy or accept that variations to the program are unnecessary, and
people are too scared to make suggestions because each post is met with some
sort of rejection. Often coming from people who are a little too aggressive.

So because you do not want a change - so simply do not use the option! I am not
forcing you to change YOUR store or to be different person. The suggestions are
being made because this will help a Seller get items into and out of their store
in the manner they deem efficient.

Meaning that there are more parts available to the buyer at that ONE store, the
seller can get the order out quicker, items are less like to be "lost" and buyers
are then more likely to return to the store and the website because they hade
a good experience. Is that not the aim of every seller?

Please respect that others do want changes and when they take the time to write
a post, they do so wanting some change, and not because they want to get into
a fight with other people on BL or to be emotionally crushed simply because they
do not have the capacity to remember where 50K are located in their store or
they simply think that something would work better for them!

Kind regards,
Dave
Brick Recycling WA
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In Suggestions, alexander123 writes:
  It would be nice to sort by remarks for parting out a set.

The workaround using brickstock isn't bad for now.

I just download my inventory, set qty to 0 (and wait).
Part out the set I have, cut and paste it into the qty 0 file, and consolidate
lots with existing. Then just filter qty isn't 0.

Although I have found with larger part outs it's slower finding the lot rather
than just going by color at times. I would certainly welcome the option in the
drop down though.
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In Suggestions, alexander123 writes:
  It would be nice to sort by remarks for parting out a set.

Firstly it would be good if you revisited the thread you started and clarify
the query.

In the meantime, I have had a look around to try and figure your request, is
it the "View Inventory Detail" on screenshot you are referring to, that you need
to click to get remarks detail?

If so, I understand the request to have "remarks" shown on the the screen in
the screen shot, but would you not also need other information like, new total
count, price, sale etc. or are you defaulting them from the settings on the Part
Out page previous?

I have never used BL Part Out option, I use BrickStock and find it much easier
to manage part outs. Also if you purchase parts from other sellers I don't
know how you would use BL to upload those to your own store, other than one part
at a time, without using BrickStock.

Let us know if this is what you query relates to.
 
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In Suggestions, Daragh writes:
  In Suggestions, alexander123 writes:
  It would be nice to sort by remarks for parting out a set.

Firstly it would be good if you revisited the thread you started and clarify
the query.

In the meantime, I have had a look around to try and figure your request, is
it the "View Inventory Detail" on screenshot you are referring to, that you need
to click to get remarks detail?

If so, I understand the request to have "remarks" shown on the the screen in
the screen shot, but would you not also need other information like, new total
count, price, sale etc. or are you defaulting them from the settings on the Part
Out page previous?

I have never used BL Part Out option, I use BrickStock and find it much easier
to manage part outs. Also if you purchase parts from other sellers I don't
know how you would use BL to upload those to your own store, other than one part
at a time, without using BrickStock.

Let us know if this is what you query relates to.

Sorry for the late reaction.
What I mean with sorting on my remarks is the last parting out screen as you
can see on my screen shot.
It would be a lot easier if it would be possible sort that page by My remarks.
 
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Thank you, yes, that clarifies it, no problem voting Yes to that as I can see
how it would be very useful if you part out that way.

In Suggestions, alexander123 writes:
  In Suggestions, Daragh writes:
  In Suggestions, alexander123 writes:
  It would be nice to sort by remarks for parting out a set.

Firstly it would be good if you revisited the thread you started and clarify
the query.

In the meantime, I have had a look around to try and figure your request, is
it the "View Inventory Detail" on screenshot you are referring to, that you need
to click to get remarks detail?

If so, I understand the request to have "remarks" shown on the the screen in
the screen shot, but would you not also need other information like, new total
count, price, sale etc. or are you defaulting them from the settings on the Part
Out page previous?

I have never used BL Part Out option, I use BrickStock and find it much easier
to manage part outs. Also if you purchase parts from other sellers I don't
know how you would use BL to upload those to your own store, other than one part
at a time, without using BrickStock.

Let us know if this is what you query relates to.

Sorry for the late reaction.
What I mean with sorting on my remarks is the last parting out screen as you
can see on my screen shot.
It would be a lot easier if it would be possible sort that page by My remarks.