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 Author: Emilio_Magnelli View Messages Posted By Emilio_Magnelli
 Posted: Feb 12, 2015 12:47
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7944-1
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Emilio_Magnelli (13036)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7944  Name: Fire Hovercraft
* 
7944-1 (Inv) Fire Hovercraft
260 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2007
Sets: Town: City: Fire

* Delete 12 Part 3139 Black Tire 14mm D. x 4mm Smooth Small Single

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Please change this quantity, I've checked with instructions, page 45. Number of parts present in the set is six ( 6 ) not twelve (
12 )
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: Feb 12, 2015 13:23
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In Inventories Requests, neghibo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7944  Name: Fire Hovercraft
* 
7944-1 (Inv) Fire Hovercraft
260 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2007
Sets: Town: City: Fire

* Delete 12 Part 3139 Black Tire 14mm D. x 4mm Smooth Small Single

Comments from Submitter:
Please change this quantity, I've checked with instructions, page 45. Number of parts present in the set is six ( 6 ) not twelve (
12 )

What's the print number on your instruction book?

The online instructions show 6 wheel holders, 12 wheels, and 12 tires:
http://www.brickfactory.info/set/index.html

Russell
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Feb 12, 2015 13:31
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In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:

  What's the print number on your instruction book?

Russell

Guess we where doing the same check, at the same time and thinking the same thing:
another buildinginstruction ?

Maybe an option for the future is a forum tag on inventory request for the IA's
and IV's to indicate someone is already checking the request

Would save the double effort... allthough it is also a confirmation offcourse...

Cheers, Eric
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
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In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:

  What's the print number on your instruction book?

Russell

Guess we where doing the same check, at the same time and thinking the same thing:
another buildinginstruction ?

What is that saying about great minds?

  Maybe an option for the future is a forum tag on inventory request for the IA's
and IV's to indicate someone is already checking the request

Would save the double effort... allthough it is also a confirmation offcourse...

Cheers, Eric

Yes, the real problem is when there is not enough checking going on!

In this case there seems to be a "US Version" of the instructions using extra
yellow pieces:
 
Part No: 6232  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
* 
6232 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
Parts: Brick, Modified
...so I thought maybe there was some change in the wheels, too. But if not, here
is another example of what has been done in a zero qty alternate situation, as
some of us were discussing here:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=884801

(still haven't forgotten about this)

Russell
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Feb 12, 2015 14:00
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In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:

  What's the print number on your instruction book?

Russell

Guess we where doing the same check, at the same time and thinking the same thing:
another buildinginstruction ?

What is that saying about great minds?

  Maybe an option for the future is a forum tag on inventory request for the IA's
and IV's to indicate someone is already checking the request

Would save the double effort... allthough it is also a confirmation offcourse...

Cheers, Eric

Yes, the real problem is when there is not enough checking going on!

In this case there seems to be a "US Version" of the instructions using extra
yellow pieces:
 
Part No: 6232  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
* 
6232 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
Parts: Brick, Modified
...so I thought maybe there was some change in the wheels, too. But if not, here
is another example of what has been done in a zero qty alternate situation, as
some of us were discussing here:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=884801

(still haven't forgotten about this)

Russell

Yes I did read the discussion previously.
One option is also the xxxx-2 with seperate inventory, but that will require
the support of the CA's and so far this such suggestions been discarded (maybe
time to reconsider)
OR the system is builded up differently and allows a set to be splitted into
multiple versions inventory wise.
The set number would remain just one entry, but where the 'view inv'
there would be 2 (or more) buttons 'view inv version 1' 'view inv
version 2' etc.
The activation would not be standard, but only allowed by an IA for sets which
require it, once done the inventory can be copied and then altered by inv.requests
as any other set.
It would require extra programming of the BL inventory system offcourse and to
submit requests the extra field should be there as well...
7944-1-V1
7944-1-V2
etc
the xxxx-2 option could be done without any change to the current system offcourse
 
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Feb 12, 2015 14:05
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In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:

  What's the print number on your instruction book?

Russell

Guess we where doing the same check, at the same time and thinking the same thing:
another buildinginstruction ?

What is that saying about great minds?

  Maybe an option for the future is a forum tag on inventory request for the IA's
and IV's to indicate someone is already checking the request

Would save the double effort... allthough it is also a confirmation offcourse...

Cheers, Eric

Yes, the real problem is when there is not enough checking going on!

In this case there seems to be a "US Version" of the instructions using extra
yellow pieces:
 
Part No: 6232  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
* 
6232 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
Parts: Brick, Modified
...so I thought maybe there was some change in the wheels, too. But if not, here
is another example of what has been done in a zero qty alternate situation, as
some of us were discussing here:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=884801

(still haven't forgotten about this)

Russell

Yes I did read the discussion previously.
One option is also the xxxx-2 with seperate inventory, but that will require
the support of the CA's and so far this such suggestions been discarded (maybe
time to reconsider)
OR the system is builded up differently and allows a set to be splitted into
multiple versions inventory wise.
The set number would remain just one entry, but where the 'view inv'
there would be 2 (or more) buttons 'view inv version 1' 'view inv
version 2' etc.
The activation would not be standard, but only allowed by an IA for sets which
require it, once done the inventory can be copied and then altered by inv.requests
as any other set.
It would require extra programming of the BL inventory system offcourse and to
submit requests the extra field should be there as well...
7944-1-V1
7944-1-V2
etc
the xxxx-2 option could be done without any change to the current system offcourse



XXX-2 or XXX-V2....
Yes please, significant changes to set inventories seem to be getting more common.
The current system works well for an alternate part, but not for completely alternate
builds.

One catalog issue that might be a problem is that I think that it is currently
not possible to link a specific version of the instructions (they do have a number)
to a specific version of the set.
 Author: therobo View Messages Posted By therobo
 Posted: Feb 12, 2015 14:09
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In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:

  What's the print number on your instruction book?

Russell

Guess we where doing the same check, at the same time and thinking the same thing:
another buildinginstruction ?

What is that saying about great minds?

  Maybe an option for the future is a forum tag on inventory request for the IA's
and IV's to indicate someone is already checking the request

Would save the double effort... allthough it is also a confirmation offcourse...

Cheers, Eric

Yes, the real problem is when there is not enough checking going on!

In this case there seems to be a "US Version" of the instructions using extra
yellow pieces:
 
Part No: 6232  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
* 
6232 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin and Axle Hole
Parts: Brick, Modified
...so I thought maybe there was some change in the wheels, too. But if not, here
is another example of what has been done in a zero qty alternate situation, as
some of us were discussing here:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=884801

(still haven't forgotten about this)

Russell

Yes I did read the discussion previously.
One option is also the xxxx-2 with seperate inventory, but that will require
the support of the CA's and so far this such suggestions been discarded (maybe
time to reconsider)

Are there different boxes for this set assigned to the different inventories?

  OR the system is builded up differently and allows a set to be splitted into
multiple versions inventory wise.
The set number would remain just one entry, but where the 'view inv'
there would be 2 (or more) buttons 'view inv version 1' 'view inv
version 2' etc.
The activation would not be standard, but only allowed by an IA for sets which
require it, once done the inventory can be copied and then altered by inv.requests
as any other set.
It would require extra programming of the BL inventory system offcourse and to
submit requests the extra field should be there as well...
7944-1-V1
7944-1-V2
etc
the xxxx-2 option could be done without any change to the current system offcourse
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Feb 12, 2015 14:22
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In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
  In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:

  
  One option is also the xxxx-2 with seperate inventory, but that will require
the support of the CA's and so far this such suggestions been discarded (maybe
time to reconsider)

Are there different boxes for this set assigned to the different inventories?


Would need to be investigated, but probably yes, because the partcount mentioned
on outside of the box would differ no? (and maybe TLG's item number as well)
Is that a requierement anyway to get things splitted if the CA's really wanted
to?

And right now many sets have different layouts depending on region, yet we don't
have xx pictures for those sets anyway, I doubt people really bother.

and yes in some cases the box might be slightly different:

 
Set No: 4551  Name: Crocodile Locomotive
* 
4551-1 (Inv) Crocodile Locomotive
308 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1991
Sets: Train: 9V

remember a long time ago we discussed that set in regards to the alternate trainfront,
I chased that second version and the box layout was different, as you approved
the secondary large image (system / non system)
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
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In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:

  OR the system is builded up differently and allows a set to be splitted into
multiple versions inventory wise.
The set number would remain just one entry, but where the 'view inv'
there would be 2 (or more) buttons 'view inv version 1' 'view inv
version 2' etc.

This is what I have in mind, although I was thinking of still a single link on
the catalog page, with a link to go to an alternate inventory on the inventory
page. But your idea would work, too.
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In Inventories Requests, neghibo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7944  Name: Fire Hovercraft
* 
7944-1 (Inv) Fire Hovercraft
260 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2007
Sets: Town: City: Fire

* Delete 12 Part 3139 Black Tire 14mm D. x 4mm Smooth Small Single

Comments from Submitter:
Please change this quantity, I've checked with instructions, page 45. Number of parts present in the set is six ( 6 ) not twelve (
12 )

I see 12
There are also 6 wheelholders
 
Part No: 4870  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Dual Wheels Holder - Split Pins
* 
4870 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Dual Wheels Holder - Split Pins
Parts: Aircraft
and 12 wheels
 
Part No: 4624  Name: Wheel  8mm D. x 6mm
* 
4624 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
Parts: Wheel

so it would be quite odd there would be only 6 tires

Do you have a different buildinginstruction?