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 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
 Posted: May 7, 2014 21:25
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 365-1
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starbeanie (10818)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 365  Name: Wild West Scene
* 
365-1 (Inv) Wild West Scene
552 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1975
Sets: LEGOLAND: Western: Cowboys

* Add 1 Minifig old051 Legoland Old Type - Red Torso, Blue Legs, Blue Cowboy Hat (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
last of the counterparts.
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: May 18, 2014 22:03
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 365-1
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viejos (670)

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In Inventories Requests, starbeanie writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 365  Name: Wild West Scene
* 
365-1 (Inv) Wild West Scene
552 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1975
Sets: LEGOLAND: Western: Cowboys

* Add 1 Minifig old051 Legoland Old Type - Red Torso, Blue Legs, Blue Cowboy Hat (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
last of the counterparts.

These should all be listed as regular figs. Just because the figs are in a sitting
position in the instructions shouldn't separate them from the other figs.

Russell
 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
 Posted: May 18, 2014 22:23
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 365-1
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In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, starbeanie writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 365  Name: Wild West Scene
* 
365-1 (Inv) Wild West Scene
552 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1975
Sets: LEGOLAND: Western: Cowboys

* Add 1 Minifig old051 Legoland Old Type - Red Torso, Blue Legs, Blue Cowboy Hat (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
last of the counterparts.

These should all be listed as regular figs. Just because the figs are in a sitting
position in the instructions shouldn't separate them from the other figs.

Russell

except they are not shown assembled as figs. So per the rules, they are not regular.
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: May 19, 2014 22:19
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 365-1
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viejos (670)

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In Inventories Requests, starbeanie writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, starbeanie writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 365  Name: Wild West Scene
* 
365-1 (Inv) Wild West Scene
552 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1975
Sets: LEGOLAND: Western: Cowboys

* Add 1 Minifig old051 Legoland Old Type - Red Torso, Blue Legs, Blue Cowboy Hat (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
last of the counterparts.

These should all be listed as regular figs. Just because the figs are in a sitting
position in the instructions shouldn't separate them from the other figs.

Russell

except they are not shown assembled as figs. So per the rules, they are not regular.

These early minifigs are an exception to the rule. Take a look at other inventories
that have them and you will see what has been done over the years. The reason
this anomaly has remained is because Dan J himself added the counterparts and
no one has had the impetus to overwrite what he did.

And even though Dan was excellent at seeing the big picture with regards to inventory
policy, he was not the detailed, methodical inventory worker that we usually
see working on these older inventories. He set up the system and mass-uploaded
thousands of inventories, but he left it up to others to do the fine tuning.

When one studies how these minifigs are used in sets, in becomes apparent that
the instructions cannot be used as a reference in the same way as those for movable
figs. Early figs coudn't bend or hold things, so the legs are often removed
from the torso when the fig is active, e.g. sitting in a vehicle or pushing a
wheelbarrow. Sure, if we want to be pedantic about it we could force the normal
rules on these figs. But it isn't practical - using counterparts means that
figs (whole or in part) are listed in three different sections of the inventory
- regular, minifig, and counterpart. This confuses people, and frankly is unappealing
aesthically.

Russell
 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
 Posted: May 19, 2014 22:29
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 365-1
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Except in this case there are not enough parts to make all of them into whole
minifigs.

In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, starbeanie writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, starbeanie writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 365  Name: Wild West Scene
* 
365-1 (Inv) Wild West Scene
552 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1975
Sets: LEGOLAND: Western: Cowboys

* Add 1 Minifig old051 Legoland Old Type - Red Torso, Blue Legs, Blue Cowboy Hat (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
last of the counterparts.

These should all be listed as regular figs. Just because the figs are in a sitting
position in the instructions shouldn't separate them from the other figs.

Russell

except they are not shown assembled as figs. So per the rules, they are not regular.

These early minifigs are an exception to the rule. Take a look at other inventories
that have them and you will see what has been done over the years. The reason
this anomaly has remained is because Dan J himself added the counterparts and
no one has had the impetus to overwrite what he did.

And even though Dan was excellent at seeing the big picture with regards to inventory
policy, he was not the detailed, methodical inventory worker that we usually
see working on these older inventories. He set up the system and mass-uploaded
thousands of inventories, but he left it up to others to do the fine tuning.

When one studies how these minifigs are used in sets, in becomes apparent that
the instructions cannot be used as a reference in the same way as those for movable
figs. Early figs coudn't bend or hold things, so the legs are often removed
from the torso when the fig is active, e.g. sitting in a vehicle or pushing a
wheelbarrow. Sure, if we want to be pedantic about it we could force the normal
rules on these figs. But it isn't practical - using counterparts means that
figs (whole or in part) are listed in three different sections of the inventory
- regular, minifig, and counterpart. This confuses people, and frankly is unappealing
aesthically.

Russell