To protect buyers, make BrickLink a safer site for everyone, and encourage sellers
to perform at a minimum level, I suggest that if a BrickLink store has less than
95% positive feedback as a seller, a red banner should appear on the top of the
checkout page saying:
"WARNING! BUYERS BEWARE! READ THIS SELLER'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER!"
If the seller has less than 90% positive feedback as a seller, another banner
should appear if the buyer ignores the first one and submits their order. This
second banner should say: "SERIOUSLY?!? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH
THIS ORDER?!? READ THE FEEDBACK! DON'T BE AN IDIOT! PRACTICE SAFE ONLINE
INTERCOURSE! FIND A SAFER PARTNER. OR DON'T COME CRYING TO US IF YOU GET
BURNED BY THIS SELLER! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK! DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!"
OK, I am joking about the least one. But I think an appropriate banner might
help avoid SOME of these problems.
To protect buyers, make BrickLink a safer site for everyone, and encourage sellers
to perform at a minimum level, I suggest that if a BrickLink store has less than
95% positive feedback as a seller, a red banner should appear on the top of the
checkout page saying:
"WARNING! BUYERS BEWARE! READ THIS SELLER'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER!"
If the seller has less than 90% positive feedback as a seller, another banner
should appear if the buyer ignores the first one and submits their order. This
second banner should say: "SERIOUSLY?!? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH
THIS ORDER?!? READ THE FEEDBACK! DON'T BE AN IDIOT! PRACTICE SAFE ONLINE
INTERCOURSE! FIND A SAFER PARTNER. OR DON'T COME CRYING TO US IF YOU GET
BURNED BY THIS SELLER! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK! DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!"
OK, I am joking about the least one. But I think an appropriate banner might
help avoid SOME of these problems.
Thor]
I want to vote yes and no
yes because it would help people from being scammed
no because those people probably won't shop elsewhere on BL
Agreed,a warning banner system could turn out to be a two (double) edged sword,tricky!
In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
To protect buyers, make BrickLink a safer site for everyone, and encourage sellers
to perform at a minimum level, I suggest that if a BrickLink store has less than
95% positive feedback as a seller, a red banner should appear on the top of the
checkout page saying:
"WARNING! BUYERS BEWARE! READ THIS SELLER'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER!"
If the seller has less than 90% positive feedback as a seller, another banner
should appear if the buyer ignores the first one and submits their order. This
second banner should say: "SERIOUSLY?!? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH
THIS ORDER?!? READ THE FEEDBACK! DON'T BE AN IDIOT! PRACTICE SAFE ONLINE
INTERCOURSE! FIND A SAFER PARTNER. OR DON'T COME CRYING TO US IF YOU GET
BURNED BY THIS SELLER! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK! DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!"
OK, I am joking about the least one. But I think an appropriate banner might
help avoid SOME of these problems.
Thor]
I want to vote yes and no
yes because it would help people from being scammed
no because those people probably won't shop elsewhere on BL
Might work,less likely to panic anyone into thinking the whole site is suspect.
You could even show feedback split at this stage,number or percentage versions.
This split could be shown on stores name banner on their shop site and alongside
the present feedback number.
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
In Suggestions, Stuart9 writes:
Agreed,a warning banner system could turn out to be a two (double) edged sword,tricky!
True. SO then maybe we just just tone the banner down to read: "NOTE: PLEASE
READ THIS STORE'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THIS ORDER."
To protect buyers, make BrickLink a safer site for everyone, and encourage sellers
to perform at a minimum level, I suggest that if a BrickLink store has less than
95% positive feedback as a seller, a red banner should appear on the top of the
checkout page saying:
"WARNING! BUYERS BEWARE! READ THIS SELLER'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER!"
If the seller has less than 90% positive feedback as a seller, another banner
should appear if the buyer ignores the first one and submits their order. This
second banner should say: "SERIOUSLY?!? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH
THIS ORDER?!? READ THE FEEDBACK! DON'T BE AN IDIOT! PRACTICE SAFE ONLINE
INTERCOURSE! FIND A SAFER PARTNER. OR DON'T COME CRYING TO US IF YOU GET
BURNED BY THIS SELLER! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK! DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!"
OK, I am joking about the least one. But I think an appropriate banner might
help avoid SOME of these problems.
Thor]
I want to vote yes and no
yes because it would help people from being scammed
no because those people probably won't shop elsewhere on BL
Suppose the algorithm was smart enough to find the buyer another store that had
the same parts, and better feedback and close to the same price?
Or suppose BL just banned sellers with feedback that was low enough to justify
such a warning?
But ideally this would be an actual rule, and not just something where admin
was expected to invoke the "for any reason" clause.
I believe that both Amazon and Ebay have feedback criteria where they will suspend
sellers.
To protect buyers, make BrickLink a safer site for everyone, and encourage sellers
to perform at a minimum level, I suggest that if a BrickLink store has less than
95% positive feedback as a seller, a red banner should appear on the top of the
checkout page saying:
"WARNING! BUYERS BEWARE! READ THIS SELLER'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER!"
If the seller has less than 90% positive feedback as a seller, another banner
should appear if the buyer ignores the first one and submits their order. This
second banner should say: "SERIOUSLY?!? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH
THIS ORDER?!? READ THE FEEDBACK! DON'T BE AN IDIOT! PRACTICE SAFE ONLINE
INTERCOURSE! FIND A SAFER PARTNER. OR DON'T COME CRYING TO US IF YOU GET
BURNED BY THIS SELLER! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK! DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!"
OK, I am joking about the least one. But I think an appropriate banner might
help avoid SOME of these problems.
Thor
What about an option: "Continue with order" or "Save your cart as a wanted list,
and search all stores for best price." That way they could click one button
and see a good-feedback store that happens to have what they need.
To protect buyers, make BrickLink a safer site for everyone, and encourage sellers
to perform at a minimum level, I suggest that if a BrickLink store has less than
95% positive feedback as a seller, a red banner should appear on the top of the
checkout page saying:
"WARNING! BUYERS BEWARE! READ THIS SELLER'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER!"
If the seller has less than 90% positive feedback as a seller, another banner
should appear if the buyer ignores the first one and submits their order. This
second banner should say: "SERIOUSLY?!? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH
THIS ORDER?!? READ THE FEEDBACK! DON'T BE AN IDIOT! PRACTICE SAFE ONLINE
INTERCOURSE! FIND A SAFER PARTNER. OR DON'T COME CRYING TO US IF YOU GET
BURNED BY THIS SELLER! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK! DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!"
OK, I am joking about the least one. But I think an appropriate banner might
help avoid SOME of these problems.
Thor
I'd go a step further, where
a) all sellers with FB rating of less than 95% at any period of their selling
career
b) new sellers with less than selling 5 feedback
c) NSS/NRS within last 14 days
were excluded from all listings by default. Anyone during signup or at any other
time could opt-in to see such sellers. So only experienced members, or the ones
who are willing to take the risk would be able to.... to take the risk.
Not necessarily word to word as I wrote it, but some general thoughts.
To protect buyers, make BrickLink a safer site for everyone, and encourage sellers
to perform at a minimum level, I suggest that if a BrickLink store has less than
95% positive feedback as a seller, a red banner should appear on the top of the
checkout page saying:
"WARNING! BUYERS BEWARE! READ THIS SELLER'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER!"
If the seller has less than 90% positive feedback as a seller, another banner
should appear if the buyer ignores the first one and submits their order. This
second banner should say: "SERIOUSLY?!? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH
THIS ORDER?!? READ THE FEEDBACK! DON'T BE AN IDIOT! PRACTICE SAFE ONLINE
INTERCOURSE! FIND A SAFER PARTNER. OR DON'T COME CRYING TO US IF YOU GET
BURNED BY THIS SELLER! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK! DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!"
OK, I am joking about the least one. But I think an appropriate banner might
help avoid SOME of these problems.
Thor
Thanks, Thor. That gave me a good chuckle. I'd go for both banners.
Not to highjack the thread, but here are two other easy changes that I think
would address the same issue.
1) Stop treating buyer feedback the same as seller feedback. It doesn't
make sense that a seller can easily boost their feedback simply by placing a
bunch of small orders.
2) Stop showing feedback as simply a single number (Positive minus Negative).
It'd be much better to show them separately (Positive/Negative/Neutral).
Current method (which seller would you pick?):
Seller A (1385)
Seller B (741)
Proposed method (now which seller would you pick?):
Seller A (1431+ / 46- / 10n)
Seller B (742+ / 1- / 1n)
I like that. Show the true rating. All numbers corresponding to the main total.
In Suggestions, dmoser22 writes:
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
To protect buyers, make BrickLink a safer site for everyone, and encourage sellers
to perform at a minimum level, I suggest that if a BrickLink store has less than
95% positive feedback as a seller, a red banner should appear on the top of the
checkout page saying:
"WARNING! BUYERS BEWARE! READ THIS SELLER'S FEEDBACK BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER!"
If the seller has less than 90% positive feedback as a seller, another banner
should appear if the buyer ignores the first one and submits their order. This
second banner should say: "SERIOUSLY?!? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH
THIS ORDER?!? READ THE FEEDBACK! DON'T BE AN IDIOT! PRACTICE SAFE ONLINE
INTERCOURSE! FIND A SAFER PARTNER. OR DON'T COME CRYING TO US IF YOU GET
BURNED BY THIS SELLER! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK! DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!"
OK, I am joking about the least one. But I think an appropriate banner might
help avoid SOME of these problems.
Thor
Thanks, Thor. That gave me a good chuckle. I'd go for both banners.
Not to highjack the thread, but here are two other easy changes that I think
would address the same issue.
1) Stop treating buyer feedback the same as seller feedback. It doesn't
make sense that a seller can easily boost their feedback simply by placing a
bunch of small orders.
2) Stop showing feedback as simply a single number (Positive minus Negative).
It'd be much better to show them separately (Positive/Negative/Neutral).
Current method (which seller would you pick?):
Seller A (1385)
Seller B (741)
Proposed method (now which seller would you pick?):
Seller A (1431+ / 46- / 10n)
Seller B (742+ / 1- / 1n)
2) Stop showing feedback as simply a single number (Positive minus Negative).
It'd be much better to show them separately (Positive/Negative/Neutral).
Current method (which seller would you pick?):
Seller A (1385)
Seller B (741)
Proposed method (now which seller would you pick?):
Seller A (1431+ / 46- / 10n)
Seller B (742+ / 1- / 1n)
-djm
Both numbers are high enough to be irrelevant in and of themselves.
How about:
Seller A (1385)
Seller B (15)
With the same breakdown as you showed previously.
I'd check out Seller B first.
Brian
I would disagree. If I see a seller with 46 Negatives, I'm definitely going
to take a closer look before buying, no matter how many positives. If I then
see that a lot of the negatives have been recent, that the seller has not provided
any defense or tried to offer reasonable explanations, or that he has responded
rudely to well-deserved negatives, any of those things would cause me to move
on.
OK, all kidding aside, let's tone this down a bit.
How about on EVERY checkout page for EVERY order with EVERY seller, a banner
at the top of the page simply says: "Read this seller's feedback here" or
"Read what other buyers have said about this seller", with a link that opens
in a new window displaying the seller's feedback profile.
This is simple, neutral and non-judgmental. It may also attract the attention
of newbies better than the current system of only showing a number besides the
seller's name. It also does not entail making any changes to the current
feedback system.
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