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 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: Feb 7, 2014 07:31
 Subject: Refine inventory/reservation process in BL 2
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enig (6337)

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I suggest refining the way how Set reservations work for inventorying purposes,
and also enforcing strict requirements for how inventorying should be
done.

Why - I have seen new sets missing inventories for weeks (at least), with someone
sitting on reservation and doing nothing.

Solution - you can *only* reserve the set when you have it in your hands, meaning
that you have 48 hours to follow through and submit a complete inventory.
Lets say you have extra 24 hours to refine it if you have already submitted it,
and make it complete. If not done by that time it gets deleted and someone
else can go for it , someone who is able to follow through in a timely manner.

What I mean by complete inventory is:
a) all extra parts accounted for
b) all mold variations correct. From time to time we see an ancient molds popping
up. For the record - I understand the principle of alternate parts in sets.

In my eyes, this is necessary because many times I have seen new inventories
submitted just from the back sheet of instruction booklet, what is basically
putting another check-mark on the list, saying hey you see I did this,
but leaving for other to do the actual work. Which is going through instructions,
and making sure that all extra parts are listed too.

Maybe one should also be only able to reserve the set if he/she had at least
10 inventory corrections submitted, meaning that they actually know what they're
doing.
 Author: WhiteVanMan View Messages Posted By WhiteVanMan
 Posted: Feb 7, 2014 07:52
 Subject: Re: Refine inventory/reservation process in BL 2
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In Suggestions, enig writes:

  Maybe one should also be only able to reserve the set if he/she had at least
10 inventory corrections submitted, meaning that they actually know what they're
doing.

I agree, as I have found that there are quite a few sets that need to be done
and yet they don't..
I found a set that it's inventory had been submitted but the submitter had
put in this style of Technic pin in instead of the other...

 
Part No: 4459  Name: Technic, Pin with Long Friction Ridges
* 
4459 Technic, Pin with Long Friction Ridges
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 2780  Name: Technic, Pin with Short Friction Ridges
* 
2780 Technic, Pin with Short Friction Ridges
Parts: Technic, Pin

So, I had to drop a line to the submitter explaining what had happened and it's
been rectified. (Yay!)
 Author: happygolucky View Messages Posted By happygolucky
 Posted: Feb 7, 2014 08:18
 Subject: Re: Refine inventory/reservation process in BL 2
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I completelly agree with you that something ought to be done about people 'sitting'
on reservations, but 2 days is really a bit exteme. I would be encline to allow
at least a week to complete, and doublecheck an inventory. Especially for someone
new to it.

Maybe a registration system like the one for becoming an inventory verifier could
be useful for the inventory process as well...

But nothin too complex as I think it is important to keep as many members as
possible involved with the catalogue and not just leave it to a few 'elite'
ones.

Just my own opinion.






In Suggestions, enig writes:
  I suggest refining the way how Set reservations work for inventorying purposes,
and also enforcing strict requirements for how inventorying should be
done.

Why - I have seen new sets missing inventories for weeks (at least), with someone
sitting on reservation and doing nothing.

Solution - you can *only* reserve the set when you have it in your hands, meaning
that you have 48 hours to follow through and submit a complete inventory.
Lets say you have extra 24 hours to refine it if you have already submitted it,
and make it complete. If not done by that time it gets deleted and someone
else can go for it , someone who is able to follow through in a timely manner.

What I mean by complete inventory is:
a) all extra parts accounted for
b) all mold variations correct. From time to time we see an ancient molds popping
up. For the record - I understand the principle of alternate parts in sets.

In my eyes, this is necessary because many times I have seen new inventories
submitted just from the back sheet of instruction booklet, what is basically
putting another check-mark on the list, saying hey you see I did this,
but leaving for other to do the actual work. Which is going through instructions,
and making sure that all extra parts are listed too.

Maybe one should also be only able to reserve the set if he/she had at least
10 inventory corrections submitted, meaning that they actually know what they're
doing.
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: Feb 7, 2014 08:45
 Subject: Re: Refine inventory/reservation process in BL 2
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enig (6337)

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In Suggestions, happygolucky writes:
  I completelly agree with you that something ought to be done about people 'sitting'
on reservations, but 2 days is really a bit exteme. I would be encline to allow
at least a week to complete, and doublecheck an inventory. Especially for someone
new to it.

If someone needs at least a week to prepare an inventory for a set then either
a) the person does not have the free time needed to dedicate for the task and/or
b) ambitions are too big, so maybe better to start with smaller sets, instead
of going after multi-thousand part set straight away.
Double-checking, as far as I understand, is the process done in between the original
submission and approval, by someone else.

  
Maybe a registration system like the one for becoming an inventory verifier could
be useful for the inventory process as well...

But nothin too complex as I think it is important to keep as many members as
possible involved with the catalogue and not just leave it to a few 'elite'
ones.

Just my own opinion.

Maybe a good idea. Say after a certain number of successful corrections to the
catalog, one can apply?

However, the system must work, as for example I applied for an Inventory Verifier
months ago. Never received even as much as a confirmation that the application
has been received and is being/not being considered.
  





In Suggestions, enig writes:
  I suggest refining the way how Set reservations work for inventorying purposes,
and also enforcing strict requirements for how inventorying should be
done.

Why - I have seen new sets missing inventories for weeks (at least), with someone
sitting on reservation and doing nothing.

Solution - you can *only* reserve the set when you have it in your hands, meaning
that you have 48 hours to follow through and submit a complete inventory.
Lets say you have extra 24 hours to refine it if you have already submitted it,
and make it complete. If not done by that time it gets deleted and someone
else can go for it , someone who is able to follow through in a timely manner.

What I mean by complete inventory is:
a) all extra parts accounted for
b) all mold variations correct. From time to time we see an ancient molds popping
up. For the record - I understand the principle of alternate parts in sets.

In my eyes, this is necessary because many times I have seen new inventories
submitted just from the back sheet of instruction booklet, what is basically
putting another check-mark on the list, saying hey you see I did this,
but leaving for other to do the actual work. Which is going through instructions,
and making sure that all extra parts are listed too.

Maybe one should also be only able to reserve the set if he/she had at least
10 inventory corrections submitted, meaning that they actually know what they're
doing.
 Author: therobo View Messages Posted By therobo
 Posted: Feb 7, 2014 08:22
 Subject: Re: Refine inventory/reservation process in BL 2
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In Suggestions, enig writes:
  I suggest refining the way how Set reservations work for inventorying purposes,
and also enforcing strict requirements for how inventorying should be
done.

Why - I have seen new sets missing inventories for weeks (at least), with someone
sitting on reservation and doing nothing.

Solution - you can *only* reserve the set when you have it in your hands, meaning
that you have 48 hours to follow through and submit a complete inventory.
Lets say you have extra 24 hours to refine it if you have already submitted it,
and make it complete. If not done by that time it gets deleted and someone
else can go for it , someone who is able to follow through in a timely manner.

Hi,
it already exists.
http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1104
Unfortunately it's one of the features which does not work due to the bugs
which have been implemented after the hacking attack 20 months ago.
Ronald

  
What I mean by complete inventory is:
a) all extra parts accounted for
b) all mold variations correct. From time to time we see an ancient molds popping
up. For the record - I understand the principle of alternate parts in sets.

In my eyes, this is necessary because many times I have seen new inventories
submitted just from the back sheet of instruction booklet, what is basically
putting another check-mark on the list, saying hey you see I did this,
but leaving for other to do the actual work. Which is going through instructions,
and making sure that all extra parts are listed too.

Inventories for modern sets should not be allowed do be submitted from instructions.

  
Maybe one should also be only able to reserve the set if he/she had at least
10 inventory corrections submitted, meaning that they actually know what they're
doing.
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: Feb 7, 2014 08:50
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enig (6337)

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In Suggestions, therobo writes:
  In Suggestions, enig writes:
  I suggest refining the way how Set reservations work for inventorying purposes,
and also enforcing strict requirements for how inventorying should be
done.

Why - I have seen new sets missing inventories for weeks (at least), with someone
sitting on reservation and doing nothing.

Solution - you can *only* reserve the set when you have it in your hands, meaning
that you have 48 hours to follow through and submit a complete inventory.
Lets say you have extra 24 hours to refine it if you have already submitted it,
and make it complete. If not done by that time it gets deleted and someone
else can go for it , someone who is able to follow through in a timely manner.

Hi,
it already exists.
http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1104
Unfortunately it's one of the features which does not work due to the bugs
which have been implemented after the hacking attack 20 months ago.
Ronald

Oh.. sorry I did not think of checking it. Acted only on what I see is going
on (or not going on, for that matter )
3 days is spot-on, looks like someone (Dan?) had the similar opinion on the time-frame
(48+24 hrs)

  
  
What I mean by complete inventory is:
a) all extra parts accounted for
b) all mold variations correct. From time to time we see an ancient molds popping
up. For the record - I understand the principle of alternate parts in sets.

In my eyes, this is necessary because many times I have seen new inventories
submitted just from the back sheet of instruction booklet, what is basically
putting another check-mark on the list, saying hey you see I did this,
but leaving for other to do the actual work. Which is going through instructions,
and making sure that all extra parts are listed too.

Inventories for modern sets should not be allowed do be submitted from instructions.

Yes, so I hope this practice stops In no way I am saying that this is a common
practice, but I have seen it way, way too many times.

  
  
Maybe one should also be only able to reserve the set if he/she had at least
10 inventory corrections submitted, meaning that they actually know what they're
doing.