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 Author: Lonely_Brick_OH View Messages Posted By Lonely_Brick_OH
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Since the other thread was locked, and the problem still has not been resolved.

Sorry if this message is long, and a bit confusing. I cut and pasted many lines
from internal emails, past discussions and information from a programmer I hired
to try and help me resolve this very issue.

My point was, and is;

WE MUST HAVE A 2nd STOCKROOM or some way to be able to sell another inventory
seperate from our current inventory.

2 seperate locations, one store or
2 stores, 2 seperate locations.

And before it starts;

1.) "I am very happy some of you do not have this issue. WE DO. We have tried
in the past to resolve it. It did not work out well. I have a pad next to my
monitor here where I have been writing down suggestions! I am willing and glad
to try any suggestions to be able to list my used inventory.

2.) "My current plan is to liquidate my new inventory. ALL OF IT. Then move
over to the used until that is gone as well. Then I will be moving on to either
Ebay, or if I can find a way to make Brick Link work in a way that is able to
make me money I will gladly start over again."

3.) "It is my PERSONAL BELIEF that bricklink has some minor flaws. Those flaws
are keeping people like myself from selling even more. One flaw is the large
store backup and upload. I cannot download and reupload my entire store! I
have to do it in pieces. It is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE A_S. Again, MY PERSONAL
BELIEF is; Bricklink is suffering from some growing pains. This site is amazing.
It does many wonderful things. Some of the issues that I have seen from working
a store, then running one are Checkout is horrible. MAJOR confusion for new
users. Inventory tag system is very confusing if not setup correctly and my
final complaint is NO PLACE TO LEARN. I do believe my predecessor called it
a "sand box". I have no idea what that would entail, but I assume it would be
a place where I would be able to upload and download inventory without doing
damage to the store.

A 2nd store would be nice, but if that is not available we need a 2nd stockroom.

Then we would need an option to keep the 2nd stockroom from being purchased along
with the 1st stockroom.

This would be a bit confusing, but would solve the problem.

It would also allow for people to be able to play around with their inventory
without doing damage to the original (I think either I or my alter Ego posted
about that in the past).

I asked a question of the "Help Desk" to see if we can resolve this.

To date we have tried;

Importing the used inventory into our new inventory. It was a nightmare.
Doing seperate bins for the used. Again, nightmare. People pulled incorrect
pieces and wrong colors and damaged the inventory.
One tub of used. This worked, but is VERY slow sales process when you have as
much as I do right now.
Poundage. This worked, but we are getting around 2.00-3.00 per lb vs. 20.00-30.00
per lb which is what it is worth.

Thank you for all the emails.
On this one subject I do believe ANY large seller would be happy with a place
that is protected, and an option to sell the inventory from the 2nd stockroom.

I look forward to a debate on it.

Please do not bitch at each other on my thread!

I am sure addition of millions of elements and more varity cannot be a negative
thing.

I have been forced to look at other avenues due to this, one of which is opening
my own Ebay store.

With Ebay's auction feature I can pre-bag the used inventory in groups, and list
it in a way that makes sense.

On bricklink I would have to do unsorted lots. Which would end up sitting in
my inventory and would end up being a mess and problem.

I am not totally up on all of the inventory tricks here.

But I do know we cannot backup our current inventory and 're-upload' it to the
site.

That is a major pain in the neck!

If we damage this inventory again, I have no one to help me fix it.

So if it happens, we are finished on Brick Link.

Have a great weekend.

And keep it civil!
 Author: plasmachild View Messages Posted By plasmachild
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John,

I still think it is possible for you to do this in the current system, but it
is probably not part of your standard operating procedures so you fear screwups.
Many have suggested parts of this, but this is how I would do it:

A) as has been suggested list used only in bulk amounts, if a buyer buys used
1x1 USED red plates, they have to buy all 1000 of your used red plates. I think
your response to this was that your items would sit for a long time without being
sold, my 2 responses would be (1) it's already sat for 10 years, what's another
with buyer exposure? and (2) list it a price that is enticing per part (lowest
price in this quantity and condition) but it would still be better than selling
per pound bulk mixed.

B) as has been at least alluded to: USE the remarks field in your order details
(i'm not sure if you use this feature but it IS AVAILABLE and used widely and
effectively), and I don't know if you print the order details for your minions
(sorry Troy) to pick parts and check them off. If you do print and use remarks
field when uploading used, make sure the remarks are in caps saying something
like "HEY DINGBAT THESE PARTS ARE FROM OUR USED STOCKROOM, GO THERE AND GET THEM."

B) to avoid the upload disaster, list these items 1 at a time directly through
bricklink (this is when you would put your remarks in) instead of third party
software when your minions or you have downtime. It maybe slower than using
brickstore for bulk uploads, but it sounds like you cannot do that successfully
at the moment anyway. If your minions don't have account access for listing,
they could come to you daily with a list that says: counted and marked ready
for sale in used stockroom: QTY COLOR PART# etc., QTY COLOR PART# etc.

From the sound of the size of your used inventory, even adding three or four
lots per day CAREFULLY as described above, you could start increasing your selection
of parts and finally getting your used stuff some exposure. This may seem tedious,
but it can soon become efficient, and you can definitely get more money/brick
than selling in bulk mixed on the bay.

please let me know if there are flaws in this, and I can try to address these,
or if I was not clear in something I described.
 Author: ash_274 View Messages Posted By ash_274
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In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:

  Importing the used inventory into our new inventory. It was a nightmare.
Doing seperate bins for the used. Again, nightmare. People pulled incorrect
pieces and wrong colors and damaged the inventory.

Seems like a lack of training. "Wrong colors" have nothing to do with new/used.
Why not use the REMARKS field and include "NEW" and "USED" and sort your inventory
into two halves (new/used) before it's sorted by whatever method you use. You
can have orders sorted by the Remarks field first. That way your sorters pull
the new parts from the left side of the warehouse, then pull the used parts from
the right side of the warehouse?

Each lot could have a remark of "NEW A104" or "USED J023" or whatever code system
works for you.

-Ash
  One tub of used. This worked, but is VERY slow sales process when you have as
much as I do right now.
Poundage. This worked, but we are getting around 2.00-3.00 per lb vs. 20.00-30.00
per lb which is what it is worth.

Thank you for all the emails.
On this one subject I do believe ANY large seller would be happy with a place
that is protected, and an option to sell the inventory from the 2nd stockroom.

I look forward to a debate on it.

Please do not bitch at each other on my thread!

I am sure addition of millions of elements and more varity cannot be a negative
thing.

I have been forced to look at other avenues due to this, one of which is opening
my own Ebay store.

With Ebay's auction feature I can pre-bag the used inventory in groups, and list
it in a way that makes sense.

On bricklink I would have to do unsorted lots. Which would end up sitting in
my inventory and would end up being a mess and problem.

I am not totally up on all of the inventory tricks here.

But I do know we cannot backup our current inventory and 're-upload' it to the
site.

That is a major pain in the neck!

If we damage this inventory again, I have no one to help me fix it.

So if it happens, we are finished on Brick Link.

Have a great weekend.

And keep it civil!
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In Suggestions, ash_274 writes:
  In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:

  Importing the used inventory into our new inventory. It was a nightmare.
Doing seperate bins for the used. Again, nightmare. People pulled incorrect
pieces and wrong colors and damaged the inventory.

Seems like a lack of training. "Wrong colors" have nothing to do with new/used.
Why not use the REMARKS field and include "NEW" and "USED" and sort your inventory
into two halves (new/used) before it's sorted by whatever method you use. You
can have orders sorted by the Remarks field first. That way your sorters pull
the new parts from the left side of the warehouse, then pull the used parts from
the right side of the warehouse?

Each lot could have a remark of "NEW A104" or "USED J023" or whatever code system
works for you.

-Ash

Good idea Ash -

Another thing we personally incorporate is that I try to mark MOST items I'm
listing that are used with some sort of comment (USED) or something to that effect
in the listing description for both our benefit and the customers, since we more
new than used. This way our customers won't mistake new/used listings as easily
when browsing the store.

It's very easy to note the comment next to the part if it's in LARGE LETTERS.

Personally (no slight against anyone who has problems with mixing new/used),
we just make sure everything is accurately labeled and generally have no issues...as
it seems most here agree with.

Tracy

  
  One tub of used. This worked, but is VERY slow sales process when you have as
much as I do right now.
Poundage. This worked, but we are getting around 2.00-3.00 per lb vs. 20.00-30.00
per lb which is what it is worth.

Thank you for all the emails.
On this one subject I do believe ANY large seller would be happy with a place
that is protected, and an option to sell the inventory from the 2nd stockroom.

I look forward to a debate on it.

Please do not bitch at each other on my thread!

I am sure addition of millions of elements and more varity cannot be a negative
thing.

I have been forced to look at other avenues due to this, one of which is opening
my own Ebay store.

With Ebay's auction feature I can pre-bag the used inventory in groups, and list
it in a way that makes sense.

On bricklink I would have to do unsorted lots. Which would end up sitting in
my inventory and would end up being a mess and problem.

I am not totally up on all of the inventory tricks here.

But I do know we cannot backup our current inventory and 're-upload' it to the
site.

That is a major pain in the neck!

If we damage this inventory again, I have no one to help me fix it.

So if it happens, we are finished on Brick Link.

Have a great weekend.

And keep it civil!
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In Suggestions, ash_274 writes:
  In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:

  Importing the used inventory into our new inventory. It was a nightmare.
Doing seperate bins for the used. Again, nightmare. People pulled incorrect
pieces and wrong colors and damaged the inventory.

Seems like a lack of training. "Wrong colors" have nothing to do with new/used.
Why not use the REMARKS field and include "NEW" and "USED" and sort your inventory
into two halves (new/used) before it's sorted by whatever method you use. You
can have orders sorted by the Remarks field first. That way your sorters pull
the new parts from the left side of the warehouse, then pull the used parts from
the right side of the warehouse?

Each lot could have a remark of "NEW A104" or "USED J023" or whatever code system
works for you.

-Ash


Agreed,

This also clarifies the first part B) of my reply.

also see the
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In Suggestions, steekstra writes:
  In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:
  Since the other thread was locked, and the problem still has not been resolved.

Sorry if this message is long, and a bit confusing. I cut and pasted many lines
from internal emails, past discussions and information from a programmer I hired
to try and help me resolve this very issue.

My point was, and is;

WE MUST HAVE A 2nd STOCKROOM or some way to be able to sell another inventory
seperate from our current inventory.

2 seperate locations, one store or
2 stores, 2 seperate locations.

And before it starts;

1.) "I am very happy some of you do not have this issue. WE DO. We have tried
in the past to resolve it. It did not work out well. I have a pad next to my
monitor here where I have been writing down suggestions! I am willing and glad
to try any suggestions to be able to list my used inventory.

2.) "My current plan is to liquidate my new inventory. ALL OF IT. Then move
over to the used until that is gone as well. Then I will be moving on to either
Ebay, or if I can find a way to make Brick Link work in a way that is able to
make me money I will gladly start over again."

3.) "It is my PERSONAL BELIEF that bricklink has some minor flaws. Those flaws
are keeping people like myself from selling even more. One flaw is the large
store backup and upload. I cannot download and reupload my entire store! I
have to do it in pieces. It is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE A_S. Again, MY PERSONAL
BELIEF is; Bricklink is suffering from some growing pains. This site is amazing.
It does many wonderful things. Some of the issues that I have seen from working
a store, then running one are Checkout is horrible. MAJOR confusion for new
users. Inventory tag system is very confusing if not setup correctly and my
final complaint is NO PLACE TO LEARN. I do believe my predecessor called it
a "sand box". I have no idea what that would entail, but I assume it would be
a place where I would be able to upload and download inventory without doing
damage to the store.

A 2nd store would be nice, but if that is not available we need a 2nd stockroom.

Then we would need an option to keep the 2nd stockroom from being purchased along
with the 1st stockroom.

This would be a bit confusing, but would solve the problem.

It would also allow for people to be able to play around with their inventory
without doing damage to the original (I think either I or my alter Ego posted
about that in the past).

I asked a question of the "Help Desk" to see if we can resolve this.

To date we have tried;

Importing the used inventory into our new inventory. It was a nightmare.
Doing seperate bins for the used. Again, nightmare. People pulled incorrect
pieces and wrong colors and damaged the inventory.
One tub of used. This worked, but is VERY slow sales process when you have as
much as I do right now.
Poundage. This worked, but we are getting around 2.00-3.00 per lb vs. 20.00-30.00
per lb which is what it is worth.

Thank you for all the emails.
On this one subject I do believe ANY large seller would be happy with a place
that is protected, and an option to sell the inventory from the 2nd stockroom.

I look forward to a debate on it.

Please do not bitch at each other on my thread!

I am sure addition of millions of elements and more varity cannot be a negative
thing.

I have been forced to look at other avenues due to this, one of which is opening
my own Ebay store.

With Ebay's auction feature I can pre-bag the used inventory in groups, and list
it in a way that makes sense.

On bricklink I would have to do unsorted lots. Which would end up sitting in
my inventory and would end up being a mess and problem.

I am not totally up on all of the inventory tricks here.

But I do know we cannot backup our current inventory and 're-upload' it to the
site.

That is a major pain in the neck!

If we damage this inventory again, I have no one to help me fix it.

So if it happens, we are finished on Brick Link.

Have a great weekend.

And keep it civil!


I think i need 10 stores

1 for used parts
1 for new parts
1 for used sets
1 for new sets
1 for minifigs new
1 for minifigs used
1 for new boxes
1 for used boxes
1 for new gear
1 for used gear

Maybee i need 2 more stores for instructions and for my mocs and special items



Jonathan


Has anyone else ever wished that you could "like" forum posts the way you can
on Facebook? I "like" this response.
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In Suggestions, steekstra writes:
  In Suggestions, mebumm writes:
  In Suggestions, steekstra writes:
  In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:
  Since the other thread was locked, and the problem still has not been resolved.

Sorry if this message is long, and a bit confusing. I cut and pasted many lines
from internal emails, past discussions and information from a programmer I hired
to try and help me resolve this very issue.

My point was, and is;

WE MUST HAVE A 2nd STOCKROOM or some way to be able to sell another inventory
seperate from our current inventory.

2 seperate locations, one store or
2 stores, 2 seperate locations.

And before it starts;

1.) "I am very happy some of you do not have this issue. WE DO. We have tried
in the past to resolve it. It did not work out well. I have a pad next to my
monitor here where I have been writing down suggestions! I am willing and glad
to try any suggestions to be able to list my used inventory.

2.) "My current plan is to liquidate my new inventory. ALL OF IT. Then move
over to the used until that is gone as well. Then I will be moving on to either
Ebay, or if I can find a way to make Brick Link work in a way that is able to
make me money I will gladly start over again."

3.) "It is my PERSONAL BELIEF that bricklink has some minor flaws. Those flaws
are keeping people like myself from selling even more. One flaw is the large
store backup and upload. I cannot download and reupload my entire store! I
have to do it in pieces. It is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE A_S. Again, MY PERSONAL
BELIEF is; Bricklink is suffering from some growing pains. This site is amazing.
It does many wonderful things. Some of the issues that I have seen from working
a store, then running one are Checkout is horrible. MAJOR confusion for new
users. Inventory tag system is very confusing if not setup correctly and my
final complaint is NO PLACE TO LEARN. I do believe my predecessor called it
a "sand box". I have no idea what that would entail, but I assume it would be
a place where I would be able to upload and download inventory without doing
damage to the store.

A 2nd store would be nice, but if that is not available we need a 2nd stockroom.

Then we would need an option to keep the 2nd stockroom from being purchased along
with the 1st stockroom.

This would be a bit confusing, but would solve the problem.

It would also allow for people to be able to play around with their inventory
without doing damage to the original (I think either I or my alter Ego posted
about that in the past).

I asked a question of the "Help Desk" to see if we can resolve this.

To date we have tried;

Importing the used inventory into our new inventory. It was a nightmare.
Doing seperate bins for the used. Again, nightmare. People pulled incorrect
pieces and wrong colors and damaged the inventory.
One tub of used. This worked, but is VERY slow sales process when you have as
much as I do right now.
Poundage. This worked, but we are getting around 2.00-3.00 per lb vs. 20.00-30.00
per lb which is what it is worth.

Thank you for all the emails.
On this one subject I do believe ANY large seller would be happy with a place
that is protected, and an option to sell the inventory from the 2nd stockroom.

I look forward to a debate on it.

Please do not bitch at each other on my thread!

I am sure addition of millions of elements and more varity cannot be a negative
thing.

I have been forced to look at other avenues due to this, one of which is opening
my own Ebay store.

With Ebay's auction feature I can pre-bag the used inventory in groups, and list
it in a way that makes sense.

On bricklink I would have to do unsorted lots. Which would end up sitting in
my inventory and would end up being a mess and problem.

I am not totally up on all of the inventory tricks here.

But I do know we cannot backup our current inventory and 're-upload' it to the
site.

That is a major pain in the neck!

If we damage this inventory again, I have no one to help me fix it.

So if it happens, we are finished on Brick Link.

Have a great weekend.

And keep it civil!


I think i need 10 stores

1 for used parts
1 for new parts
1 for used sets
1 for new sets
1 for minifigs new
1 for minifigs used
1 for new boxes
1 for used boxes
1 for new gear
1 for used gear

Maybee i need 2 more stores for instructions and for my mocs and special items



Jonathan


Has anyone else ever wished that you could "like" forum posts the way you can
on Facebook? I "like" this response.

Oeps facebook
never been there , i'am just to old for that

Twitter i don't understand,maybee there are more sites for the new kids




Jonathan


Twitter is stupid. Facebook can be a great way to keep in touch with friends
and family without actually having to talk to them.
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I am fine with a seller having multiple stores.
They may lose sales, from me, based on my own shopping habits; but if it helps
them out (avoiding mistakes, organization for tax purposes or other) I see no
reason why they should not be allowed multiple stores.

It is a better solution than multiple users.

However,
I think one reason that many good ideas do not get implemented, is that possibly
(I do know for sure) there is no longer a system expert.
Of course any really good software engineer could probably go in and figure it
out, and make such a change, but not nearly as quickly (or cheap) as one who
designed, wrote, or has had a lot of experience with the system.

So even if the suggestion is good, I still think it is a good idea for you to
see if you can make any of the alternate suggestions work.


In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:
  Since the other thread was locked, and the problem still has not been resolved.

Sorry if this message is long, and a bit confusing. I cut and pasted many lines
from internal emails, past discussions and information from a programmer I hired
to try and help me resolve this very issue.

My point was, and is;

WE MUST HAVE A 2nd STOCKROOM or some way to be able to sell another inventory
seperate from our current inventory.

2 seperate locations, one store or
2 stores, 2 seperate locations.

And before it starts;

1.) "I am very happy some of you do not have this issue. WE DO. We have tried
in the past to resolve it. It did not work out well. I have a pad next to my
monitor here where I have been writing down suggestions! I am willing and glad
to try any suggestions to be able to list my used inventory.

2.) "My current plan is to liquidate my new inventory. ALL OF IT. Then move
over to the used until that is gone as well. Then I will be moving on to either
Ebay, or if I can find a way to make Brick Link work in a way that is able to
make me money I will gladly start over again."

3.) "It is my PERSONAL BELIEF that bricklink has some minor flaws. Those flaws
are keeping people like myself from selling even more. One flaw is the large
store backup and upload. I cannot download and reupload my entire store! I
have to do it in pieces. It is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE A_S. Again, MY PERSONAL
BELIEF is; Bricklink is suffering from some growing pains. This site is amazing.
It does many wonderful things. Some of the issues that I have seen from working
a store, then running one are Checkout is horrible. MAJOR confusion for new
users. Inventory tag system is very confusing if not setup correctly and my
final complaint is NO PLACE TO LEARN. I do believe my predecessor called it
a "sand box". I have no idea what that would entail, but I assume it would be
a place where I would be able to upload and download inventory without doing
damage to the store.

A 2nd store would be nice, but if that is not available we need a 2nd stockroom.

Then we would need an option to keep the 2nd stockroom from being purchased along
with the 1st stockroom.

This would be a bit confusing, but would solve the problem.

It would also allow for people to be able to play around with their inventory
without doing damage to the original (I think either I or my alter Ego posted
about that in the past).

I asked a question of the "Help Desk" to see if we can resolve this.

To date we have tried;

Importing the used inventory into our new inventory. It was a nightmare.
Doing seperate bins for the used. Again, nightmare. People pulled incorrect
pieces and wrong colors and damaged the inventory.
One tub of used. This worked, but is VERY slow sales process when you have as
much as I do right now.
Poundage. This worked, but we are getting around 2.00-3.00 per lb vs. 20.00-30.00
per lb which is what it is worth.

Thank you for all the emails.
On this one subject I do believe ANY large seller would be happy with a place
that is protected, and an option to sell the inventory from the 2nd stockroom.

I look forward to a debate on it.

Please do not bitch at each other on my thread!

I am sure addition of millions of elements and more varity cannot be a negative
thing.

I have been forced to look at other avenues due to this, one of which is opening
my own Ebay store.

With Ebay's auction feature I can pre-bag the used inventory in groups, and list
it in a way that makes sense.

On bricklink I would have to do unsorted lots. Which would end up sitting in
my inventory and would end up being a mess and problem.

I am not totally up on all of the inventory tricks here.

But I do know we cannot backup our current inventory and 're-upload' it to the
site.

That is a major pain in the neck!

If we damage this inventory again, I have no one to help me fix it.

So if it happens, we are finished on Brick Link.

Have a great weekend.

And keep it civil!
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In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:
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With Ebay's auction feature I can pre-bag the used inventory in groups, and list
it in a way that makes sense.

You can prebag on BL (I do...)

  
On bricklink I would have to do unsorted lots. Which would end up sitting in
my inventory and would end up being a mess and problem.

Why unsorted? Pick 100x same item, list 100x same item and set bulk to 100...
Bag it, write 100x on it and put in a description (either captial letter, either
with colors, this last posibility is quite handy when you print orders, I use
mainly red for the description fiels, and it clearly shows on the printout it
is a bulklot), put it in your storage and label it, but the labelnumber in your
remarks field and add a location for it (for example: backside of warehouse location
XY223).
You can also make bulklots by binding items (for example same color), and pre-pack,
add a note about the weight of the lot etc... (this actually is less work on
BL then to spread out items, take picture, list on Ebay, make a decription etc...)
and you can start with smaller binded lots and add to it along the way while
sorting more stuff...

Cheers, Eric

PS. If I had the possibility to do that as a job, I would take the job at once

  
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In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:
...snip....

Send me PM with a phone number if you want to talk a little. I'm trying to help.


Just so you know, in my real career I'm an Information Technology Architect and
Systems Engineer (SE). I've been doing this for nearly 18 years. My job is
to make sure what a programmer builds is actually what the customer really wants.


If you don't start with a clear and unambiguous definition of just what is the
problem is, you can never be certain that an I/T solution is solving the real
problem. From what I've seen so far, I don't fully understand your difficulties.
A little back and forth to make sure this is clearly understood is normal.

---Just so you know your request for a second store isn't unusual. I often work
with customers whose first request is a specific technical solution. But my
job, in part, is to make sure the problem and the potential impacts are articulated
first. If the customer, an I/T Architect and/or Systems Engineer, and a good
programmer all have a clear understanding of the entire situation, there might
be an alternate solution that is better, more robust, scalable, AND less expensive.---

A few questions... perhaps I'll understand a little better.

QUESTIONS:
-- Do you use BrickStore?,
-- Do you use the A,B,C stockrooms in BL inventory? e.g. I retain all lots when
they sell out. They go into Stockroom A. Periodically I delete all 0 quantity
lots that sold over 30 days before.

SANDBOX: The use of the term sandbox gets me a little closer to understanding
what you may want. (some sort of pre-production web view of what the store will
look like, before actually changing the store). When you think all updates are
correct ... push a button to promote all updates into production) FYI... the
company I work for used this very same structure for its Web/eCommerce systems
for a long time. There was a need to "see" what the store would look like before
actually executing the changes on the production & visible to buyers, website.
e.g. You want to tweak inventory and pricing, the see what it looks like before
doing it for real on the actual store. QUESTION: Is there a business need
to make sure store inventory updates and/or pricing updates are correct before
they actually are orderable? Perhaps because you have someone else adding new
inventory and you want to verify it before it goes live.

When you say you fear "damaging the inventory" what do you mean?
A. Physically mixing used and new inventory of the same part. As in uh oh,
I just dumped 100 USED blue 1x1 bricks into a tub with 1000 NEW blue 1x1 bricks?
and/or
B. Messing up your BL store's inventory. e.g. mistakenly adding qty. 100 new
to the existing lot of 1000 new when you really meant to create a new lot with
100 used?
C. An order puller pulled 100 new 1x1 Red bricks and sent them in an order.
But the buyer ordered 100 used 1x1 red bricks? So your inventory no longer
matches the physical inventory.

STORE BACKUPS: (relates to 'damaging' inventory). I download my entire inventory
to BrickStore frequently. While you have way more items for sale, I have more
lots for sale. (which means my download/upload should take longer than yours).
I just downloaded 2594 lots (including zero quantity stockroom A items that
I sold out). It took less than 20 seconds to download the entire inventory
into BrickStore via the Import Store Inventory function. I save this as a brickstore
file in a folder on my PC. The one file is just over 1 MB. (very small). I
do this before I make any inventory updates/changes. (worst case, I could delete
my entire store inventory and reload it from the BrickStore file.) It might
take several chunks to do it. It would be a minor pain. I've never had to do
it, but I bet I could delete and reload my entire BL store inventory in less
than 30 minutes from a BrickStore file.

ADDING INVENTORY: Is this the problem area? When order volumes are higher
I could see it being more difficult to add part inventory to existing lots while
selling parts out of the same lot. I figured other stores have developed essentially
the same procedures as I have using BrickStore.
-- I merge new lots with existing lots of same part condition. No duplicate lots.
-- I verify actual counts of new parts, and sometimes re-count existing lots.
(depends on how many) resetting quantity if I discover a mistake.
-- I know when a new lot doesn't have an existing lot. So I just bag it and
be done w/it.
-- My Brickstore procedures are a bit convoluted but it works. I create a 'delete'
file of lots to delete via the 'inventory update'. I create a second 'upload'
file that contains the new parts plus the existing quantities. After I delete,
then I upload.
-- When parting out sets I don't touch individual lots in BrickStore unless there
is a quantity error or I want to set/change a price. It is all a series of filter/copy/paste/delete
functions.
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PM sent.

In Suggestions, CPgolfaddict writes:
  In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:
...snip....

Send me PM with a phone number if you want to talk a little. I'm trying to help.


Just so you know, in my real career I'm an Information Technology Architect and
Systems Engineer (SE). I've been doing this for nearly 18 years. My job is
to make sure what a programmer builds is actually what the customer really wants.


If you don't start with a clear and unambiguous definition of just what is the
problem is, you can never be certain that an I/T solution is solving the real
problem. From what I've seen so far, I don't fully understand your difficulties.
A little back and forth to make sure this is clearly understood is normal.

---Just so you know your request for a second store isn't unusual. I often work
with customers whose first request is a specific technical solution. But my
job, in part, is to make sure the problem and the potential impacts are articulated
first. If the customer, an I/T Architect and/or Systems Engineer, and a good
programmer all have a clear understanding of the entire situation, there might
be an alternate solution that is better, more robust, scalable, AND less expensive.---

A few questions... perhaps I'll understand a little better.

QUESTIONS:
-- Do you use BrickStore?,
-- Do you use the A,B,C stockrooms in BL inventory? e.g. I retain all lots when
they sell out. They go into Stockroom A. Periodically I delete all 0 quantity
lots that sold over 30 days before.

SANDBOX: The use of the term sandbox gets me a little closer to understanding
what you may want. (some sort of pre-production web view of what the store will
look like, before actually changing the store). When you think all updates are
correct ... push a button to promote all updates into production) FYI... the
company I work for used this very same structure for its Web/eCommerce systems
for a long time. There was a need to "see" what the store would look like before
actually executing the changes on the production & visible to buyers, website.
e.g. You want to tweak inventory and pricing, the see what it looks like before
doing it for real on the actual store. QUESTION: Is there a business need
to make sure store inventory updates and/or pricing updates are correct before
they actually are orderable? Perhaps because you have someone else adding new
inventory and you want to verify it before it goes live.

When you say you fear "damaging the inventory" what do you mean?
A. Physically mixing used and new inventory of the same part. As in uh oh,
I just dumped 100 USED blue 1x1 bricks into a tub with 1000 NEW blue 1x1 bricks?
and/or
B. Messing up your BL store's inventory. e.g. mistakenly adding qty. 100 new
to the existing lot of 1000 new when you really meant to create a new lot with
100 used?
C. An order puller pulled 100 new 1x1 Red bricks and sent them in an order.
But the buyer ordered 100 used 1x1 red bricks? So your inventory no longer
matches the physical inventory.

STORE BACKUPS: (relates to 'damaging' inventory). I download my entire inventory
to BrickStore frequently. While you have way more items for sale, I have more
lots for sale. (which means my download/upload should take longer than yours).
I just downloaded 2594 lots (including zero quantity stockroom A items that
I sold out). It took less than 20 seconds to download the entire inventory
into BrickStore via the Import Store Inventory function. I save this as a brickstore
file in a folder on my PC. The one file is just over 1 MB. (very small). I
do this before I make any inventory updates/changes. (worst case, I could delete
my entire store inventory and reload it from the BrickStore file.) It might
take several chunks to do it. It would be a minor pain. I've never had to do
it, but I bet I could delete and reload my entire BL store inventory in less
than 30 minutes from a BrickStore file.

ADDING INVENTORY: Is this the problem area? When order volumes are higher
I could see it being more difficult to add part inventory to existing lots while
selling parts out of the same lot. I figured other stores have developed essentially
the same procedures as I have using BrickStore.
-- I merge new lots with existing lots of same part condition. No duplicate lots.
-- I verify actual counts of new parts, and sometimes re-count existing lots.
(depends on how many) resetting quantity if I discover a mistake.
-- I know when a new lot doesn't have an existing lot. So I just bag it and
be done w/it.
-- My Brickstore procedures are a bit convoluted but it works. I create a 'delete'
file of lots to delete via the 'inventory update'. I create a second 'upload'
file that contains the new parts plus the existing quantities. After I delete,
then I upload.
-- When parting out sets I don't touch individual lots in BrickStore unless there
is a quantity error or I want to set/change a price. It is all a series of filter/copy/paste/delete
functions.
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Correct me if I am wrong here but I don't believe I am...

We already have up to three additional Stockrooms where you can put items. Granted
your request to directly sell from those stockrooms is not currently available..
So that would be a suggestion in that admin have an option to be able to make
stockroom "X" available to the public.

You can also use these Stockrooms as the "Sandbox" that you are discussing just
make sure you upload to Stockroom "X" then you can check everything over and
then transfer it to your sellable inventory.

The limited XML upload and download size does cause issue, even with me and a
small store as I cannot fully upload some sets in one shot. so this should be
extended however I can see why it is limited as without a dedicated upload server
path it would probably kill the bandwidth of the site slowing everything down..
this is not an Amazon sized site..

Right now my work arounds are as I seem to work a little like you do.

#1 - I always upload new inventory to a secondary stockroom to make sure it is
correct before actual sale.
#2 - I always put a remark or comment on that Stockroom items if I want to track
it separate from the main inventory, though in order to actually sell it right
now it must be mixed in with the normal inventory.
#3 - uploads I just have to remember to break apart before sending.. (can be
a real pain)

Suggestions I would have for Bricklink would be.

#1 - Increase upload size to at least cover the largest lego set available individual
parts wise. (if not more)
#2 - Allow specific stockrooms to specified for public availability. With a Note
on the order to the seller about which Stockroom the part came from (some people
as me currently use remarks or comments for this.
#3 - Allow Named and Additional stockrooms beyond the 3 (A,B,C) (but there would
probably have to be a limit)
#4 - A selection option for buyers in a store to show only New or Used parts.
This would allow them to bypass used or new if they so choose when buying and
therefore not getting confused over what is new or used.


Unfortunately some of the Damage in inventory seems to be a personnel problem
on your end, with your helpers/employees not paying attention to what is new
and used and where it is located. This is something that of course no one can
really help you with.

Brion
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Just curious, as I see you now have a New and a Used Warehouse (complete with
a new identity for the "Used" aspect) - has there been a thread I missed on Admin
approving/changing terms on this type of thing?

Not looking to start any arguments, sincerely just curious if something was changed
in the TOS so I know where it is.

Thanks everyone!

Tracy
Brick-A-Thon

In Suggestions, NEW_WAREHOUSE writes:
  Since the other thread was locked, and the problem still has not been resolved.

Sorry if this message is long, and a bit confusing. I cut and pasted many lines
from internal emails, past discussions and information from a programmer I hired
to try and help me resolve this very issue.

My point was, and is;

WE MUST HAVE A 2nd STOCKROOM or some way to be able to sell another inventory
seperate from our current inventory.

2 seperate locations, one store or
2 stores, 2 seperate locations.

And before it starts;

1.) "I am very happy some of you do not have this issue. WE DO. We have tried
in the past to resolve it. It did not work out well. I have a pad next to my
monitor here where I have been writing down suggestions! I am willing and glad
to try any suggestions to be able to list my used inventory.

2.) "My current plan is to liquidate my new inventory. ALL OF IT. Then move
over to the used until that is gone as well. Then I will be moving on to either
Ebay, or if I can find a way to make Brick Link work in a way that is able to
make me money I will gladly start over again."

3.) "It is my PERSONAL BELIEF that bricklink has some minor flaws. Those flaws
are keeping people like myself from selling even more. One flaw is the large
store backup and upload. I cannot download and reupload my entire store! I
have to do it in pieces. It is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE A_S. Again, MY PERSONAL
BELIEF is; Bricklink is suffering from some growing pains. This site is amazing.
It does many wonderful things. Some of the issues that I have seen from working
a store, then running one are Checkout is horrible. MAJOR confusion for new
users. Inventory tag system is very confusing if not setup correctly and my
final complaint is NO PLACE TO LEARN. I do believe my predecessor called it
a "sand box". I have no idea what that would entail, but I assume it would be
a place where I would be able to upload and download inventory without doing
damage to the store.

A 2nd store would be nice, but if that is not available we need a 2nd stockroom.

Then we would need an option to keep the 2nd stockroom from being purchased along
with the 1st stockroom.

This would be a bit confusing, but would solve the problem.

It would also allow for people to be able to play around with their inventory
without doing damage to the original (I think either I or my alter Ego posted
about that in the past).

I asked a question of the "Help Desk" to see if we can resolve this.

To date we have tried;

Importing the used inventory into our new inventory. It was a nightmare.
Doing seperate bins for the used. Again, nightmare. People pulled incorrect
pieces and wrong colors and damaged the inventory.
One tub of used. This worked, but is VERY slow sales process when you have as
much as I do right now.
Poundage. This worked, but we are getting around 2.00-3.00 per lb vs. 20.00-30.00
per lb which is what it is worth.

Thank you for all the emails.
On this one subject I do believe ANY large seller would be happy with a place
that is protected, and an option to sell the inventory from the 2nd stockroom.

I look forward to a debate on it.

Please do not bitch at each other on my thread!

I am sure addition of millions of elements and more varity cannot be a negative
thing.

I have been forced to look at other avenues due to this, one of which is opening
my own Ebay store.

With Ebay's auction feature I can pre-bag the used inventory in groups, and list
it in a way that makes sense.

On bricklink I would have to do unsorted lots. Which would end up sitting in
my inventory and would end up being a mess and problem.

I am not totally up on all of the inventory tricks here.

But I do know we cannot backup our current inventory and 're-upload' it to the
site.

That is a major pain in the neck!

If we damage this inventory again, I have no one to help me fix it.

So if it happens, we are finished on Brick Link.

Have a great weekend.

And keep it civil!
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In Suggestions, BrickAThon writes:
  Just curious, as I see you now have a New and a Used Warehouse (complete with
a new identity for the "Used" aspect) - has there been a thread I missed on Admin
approving/changing terms on this type of thing?

Not looking to start any arguments, sincerely just curious if something was changed
in the TOS so I know where it is.

It is discussed in this thread:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=536751

They asked for and were granted and exception. No rules have been changed.

Troy
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In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickAThon writes:
  Just curious, as I see you now have a New and a Used Warehouse (complete with
a new identity for the "Used" aspect) - has there been a thread I missed on Admin
approving/changing terms on this type of thing?

Not looking to start any arguments, sincerely just curious if something was changed
in the TOS so I know where it is.

It is discussed in this thread:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=536751

They asked for and were granted and exception. No rules have been changed.

Troy

WOW, I missed that one too. Interesting development. I'm struggling to understand
why you'd do it though as it will just mean that each store features lower down
on buyers' wanted lists by store and will generate smaller orders

Robert
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:

  WOW, I missed that one too. Interesting development. I'm struggling to understand
why you'd do it though as it will just mean that each store features lower down
on buyers' wanted lists by store and will generate smaller orders

Robert

My understanding of the issue is that they are being run as completely independent
operations, from different locations, with different staff.

I can certainly understand how this could become necessary, as I have held off
on selling used parts for pretty much the same reasons.

Troy
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In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:

  WOW, I missed that one too. Interesting development. I'm struggling to understand
why you'd do it though as it will just mean that each store features lower down
on buyers' wanted lists by store and will generate smaller orders

Robert

My understanding of the issue is that they are being run as completely independent
operations, from different locations, with different staff.

I can certainly understand how this could become necessary, as I have held off
on selling used parts for pretty much the same reasons.

Troy

So why not just have two user accounts (with different 'owners') and two stores?
Its what it amounts to.
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In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:

  WOW, I missed that one too. Interesting development. I'm struggling to understand
why you'd do it though as it will just mean that each store features lower down
on buyers' wanted lists by store and will generate smaller orders

Robert

My understanding of the issue is that they are being run as completely independent
operations, from different locations, with different staff.

I can certainly understand how this could become necessary, as I have held off
on selling used parts for pretty much the same reasons.

Troy

I guess it depends on how you organise your store, space, other constraints etc.
We have gone down the route of selling both new and used parts form the start
and organised our store in that way. We have a customer base that mostly buy
both so we wouldn't split the store now. If you've never sold used and got big
enough doing new then I can see that you'd look at it differently (and maybe
not even do used as it is more work/less volume).

Personally I hope more stores DO split so we get bumped up on peoples' wanted
lists

Robert
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickAThon writes:
  Just curious, as I see you now have a New and a Used Warehouse (complete with
a new identity for the "Used" aspect) - has there been a thread I missed on Admin
approving/changing terms on this type of thing?

Not looking to start any arguments, sincerely just curious if something was changed
in the TOS so I know where it is.

It is discussed in this thread:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=536751

They asked for and were granted and exception. No rules have been changed.

Troy

WOW, I missed that one too. Interesting development. I'm struggling to understand
why you'd do it though as it will just mean that each store features lower down
on buyers' wanted lists by store and will generate smaller orders

Robert

From what I have read, the "used" store (which is actually the newest one) is
a solution to a one-time problem, i.e. hundreds of thousands of used parts that
somehow were not able to be sold efficiently via the main store.

Better they be given another store than them selling that massive amount of product
on eBay, which is what Jon said was going to happen if something didn't change.
This was a smart move by Admin to keep business on the site, and it cost nothing
in terms of new software development.

If second accounts are created with permission, I don't see a problem with them.
It's when Admin is not aware of them that they become an issue.

Russell
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In Suggestions, viejos writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickAThon writes:
  Just curious, as I see you now have a New and a Used Warehouse (complete with
a new identity for the "Used" aspect) - has there been a thread I missed on Admin
approving/changing terms on this type of thing?

Not looking to start any arguments, sincerely just curious if something was changed
in the TOS so I know where it is.

It is discussed in this thread:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=536751

They asked for and were granted and exception. No rules have been changed.

Troy

WOW, I missed that one too. Interesting development. I'm struggling to understand
why you'd do it though as it will just mean that each store features lower down
on buyers' wanted lists by store and will generate smaller orders

Robert

From what I have read, the "used" store (which is actually the newest one) is
a solution to a one-time problem, i.e. hundreds of thousands of used parts that
somehow were not able to be sold efficiently via the main store.

Better they be given another store than them selling that massive amount of product
on eBay, which is what Jon said was going to happen if something didn't change.
This was a smart move by Admin to keep business on the site, and it cost nothing
in terms of new software development.

If second accounts are created with permission, I don't see a problem with them.
It's when Admin is not aware of them that they become an issue.

Russell

Yes, I agree, I don't see any problem for the site or other sellers.

Robert
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In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickAThon writes:
  Just curious, as I see you now have a New and a Used Warehouse (complete with
a new identity for the "Used" aspect) - has there been a thread I missed on Admin
approving/changing terms on this type of thing?

Not looking to start any arguments, sincerely just curious if something was changed
in the TOS so I know where it is.

It is discussed in this thread:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=536751

They asked for and were granted and exception. No rules have been changed.

Troy

Thank you Troy for the clarification, it is appreciated! (and the thread)

Tracy
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I don't understand the issues. Why would you need two stores for new and used?
You just mark the items as New or Used when you add to the inventory. New and
used 2x4 red bricks are different items in the same way that used red and blue
2x4 bricks are different items. If your pickers can't pick the right ones for
the order (new vs used) then thats not a Bricklink problem.
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In Suggestions, talltim writes:
  I don't understand the issues. Why would you need two stores for new and used?
You just mark the items as New or Used when you add to the inventory. New and
used 2x4 red bricks are different items in the same way that used red and blue
2x4 bricks are different items. If your pickers can't pick the right ones for
the order (new vs used) then thats not a Bricklink problem.

Unfortunately you dont understand the issues. Very large volume sellers have
very large inventories that require huge amounts of space. When you then add
huge "used" inventories to the already "new" inventories, thats the simple part.
The problems begin with space, pulling, etc. and the amount of time wasted by
pullers makes none of it worth it anymore. These large volume sellers need separate
stores, separate spaces, separate people pulling orders. The final straw is
what happens when a buyer places an order for used parts and also places an order
for new parts from essentially the same seller? Can these large volume sellers
somehow combine the two orders to save the buyer some freight charges? I think
that effort/time would also be prohibitive. So the final point I make here is:
Will these large volume sellers with two different stores (one for used parts
and one for new parts) piss some buyers off? We will see wont we!

But I can easily understand their reasoning for two independent stores. It makes
very good sense. John
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In Suggestions, MajesticBricks writes:
  In Suggestions, talltim writes:
  I don't understand the issues. Why would you need two stores for new and used?
You just mark the items as New or Used when you add to the inventory. New and
used 2x4 red bricks are different items in the same way that used red and blue
2x4 bricks are different items. If your pickers can't pick the right ones for
the order (new vs used) then thats not a Bricklink problem.

Unfortunately you dont understand the issues. Very large volume sellers have
very large inventories that require huge amounts of space. When you then add
huge "used" inventories to the already "new" inventories, thats the simple part.
The problems begin with space, pulling, etc. and the amount of time wasted by
pullers makes none of it worth it anymore. These large volume sellers need separate
stores, separate spaces, separate people pulling orders. The final straw is
what happens when a buyer places an order for used parts and also places an order
for new parts from essentially the same seller? Can these large volume sellers
somehow combine the two orders to save the buyer some freight charges? I think
that effort/time would also be prohibitive. So the final point I make here is:
Will these large volume sellers with two different stores (one for used parts
and one for new parts) piss some buyers off? We will see wont we!

But I can easily understand their reasoning for two independent stores. It makes
very good sense. John

I think you missed my point. Why are new and used any different from red and
green?
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In Suggestions, NEW_WAREHOUSE writes:
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   WE MUST HAVE A 2nd STOCKROOM or some way to be able to sell another inventory
seperate from our current inventory.

2 seperate locations, one store or
2 stores, 2 seperate locations.

[snip]

With 2 separate (physical) locations I can understand the desire/need for 2 separate
(online) stores. You simply do not want an order combining items from
both separated locations!

In your case I read it as 1 location has new items and the other has used items?
IMO this is quite logical, I keep used and new items separate too for simple
quality reasons. You want to keep new new.

So, with this in mind, a solution with 2 stores seems obvious to me.

Hth,
Arnoud
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So then how will shipping work? If I want to buy BOTH used and new parts from
you? Will you send a courier to ONE of your stores, obtain the parts, return
to the other store and ship? Or will a buyer be forced to pay for shipping TWICE...I
don't think the latter example would provide you with many returning customers...
Just my opinion.

LM



In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, NEW_WAREHOUSE writes:
[snip]
   WE MUST HAVE A 2nd STOCKROOM or some way to be able to sell another inventory
seperate from our current inventory.

2 seperate locations, one store or
2 stores, 2 seperate locations.

[snip]

With 2 separate (physical) locations I can understand the desire/need for 2 separate
(online) stores. You simply do not want an order combining items from
both separated locations!

In your case I read it as 1 location has new items and the other has used items?
IMO this is quite logical, I keep used and new items separate too for simple
quality reasons. You want to keep new new.

So, with this in mind, a solution with 2 stores seems obvious to me.

Hth,
Arnoud
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In Suggestions, rikitikitaviguy writes:
  So then how will shipping work? If I want to buy BOTH used and new parts from
you? Will you send a courier to ONE of your stores, obtain the parts, return
to the other store and ship? Or will a buyer be forced to pay for shipping TWICE...I
don't think the latter example would provide you with many returning customers...
Just my opinion.

LM

Hi LegoMongoose!

I think that Jon's stores would probably not want to combine orders, since this
"combining" of used and new has created some really big problems in the past.
But I could be wrong.

There are a couple of stores in Canada that offer combined shipping, and I've
received similar offers from some sellers in Germany. So, yes, this practice
is not that uncommon.

Russell
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Your 2 stores have made me think about something. I actually could use two stores.
The one I have now and then one for all the parts and sets I cannot find when
they are ordered.
John P
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  Your 2 stores have made me think about something. I actually could use two stores.
The one I have now and then one for all the parts and sets I cannot find when
they are ordered.
John P

wow. problem solved. please make this a suggestion so I can vote YES!