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 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 28, 2020 11:32
 Subject: Re: discolored new white parts
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In Colors, ricardo1475 writes:
  I need some help about discolored white new parts.

How is it possible that new white parts are not really white any more?
I have part out some brand new sets (straight from the box) some months ago and
I sold some white parts. Now I get the question from the buyer that the parts
are not really white. I have stored the parts in a drawer where there is no sunlight.
How is it possible that the parts are not really white any more? is it a factory
mistake or is it the dark drawer ore what else.
Can any body help me what the problem is.

Johan

I've separated all my basic white parts in translucent white (modern) and
opaque white (older) just to avoid these color differences. The translucent white
is slightly warm yellowish, while the opaque can be whiter and prone to discoloring.

The only times that I have seen real bright white, those parts happened to be
non-LEGO. So yours should be just normal.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 19, 2020 03:18
 Subject: Re: How to make an inventory
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In Inventories, Deesby writes:
  I am making an MOC, with instructions and parts list from Rebrickable.

I have created a want list for the parts, but is there any way to save which
parts I have bought and/or already own?

New to website and lego.

Thanks.

Easiest for you will probably to make a separate wanted list for the parts you
have already ordered and move those items from your 'need for MOC' wanted
list to your 'bought' wanted list.

Alternatively, you can use the 'have' field in the wanted list, but since
that is ignored by many parts of the Bricklink website, it is of not much use.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 06:38
 Subject: Re: Dark Green
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In Colors, infinibrix writes:

  
  In Colors, infinibrix writes:

  I think the change of ALL colour names should be a priority because however bizarre
Legos colour names may seem to us it is the manufacture who made those decisions
for their product and so it’s their name choices that should take precedence?
If an established and well-known paint brand names one of their colours ‘Bright
Yellowish Green’ distributors and retailers should follow that colour guide because
by re-labelling it as ‘Lime’ they only create confusion for their customers.
The customer knows the brand of paint they want and they know the colour that
the manufacture calls it and yet the customer is expected to somehow work it
out for themselves or if they’re lucky stumble across a third party colour guide?
The variations of the Lego product are confusing enough at the best times so
why create further confusion in areas that are easily fixed?

Once again, no thank you.

But if it’s just a preference thing why stop there... Why not just ignore the
Lego part numbers too and use our own/old peeron codes? But wait we already do?
I’ve never understood why the biggest Lego market place ignore Legos colour system
and ignores Legos official part numbers. Granted you can search by the Lego references
but we are still presented with this 3626cpb0730 instead of this 6003296?

You are presented with both on the catalog item page. Because for more than half
of the parts the official Design Id (BL: Part number) or Element Id (BL: PCC)
is not known, is not referring to the part (single part or combination) refers
to a technical difference (such as ABS versus PC or PE) that is not distinguished
on Bricklink and because there is relational information hidden inside the Bricklink
numbering system.

And for the color names: because Bricklink and the whole AFOL market had to choose
their own naming systems long before LEGO published their color names - which
are confusing at best.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 03:45
 Subject: Re: Dark Green - who's going to crack first?
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In Colors, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Colors, Stellar writes:
  In Colors, StormChaser writes:
  In Colors, misbi writes:
  isn't it about time that we set about resolving conflicting colour names?

My preferred resolution would be to update our colour chart to show TLG names
as a comparison:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp

It's literally as simple as adding a column to the chart, but it might take
some senior analysts and ***************************************
************************************************************
************************************************************
************************************************************
************************************************************
************************************************************
to accomplish (witty and well-worded negativity edited out).

So you want something like this that can be well done in no time?

The only difficult thing would be combined Lego colors to one BL color, but we
can put a / or just add an empty row below the one that matches for each extra.

Sergio

It is not that easy. There is not a 1 to 1 correspondence. And the dates for
sure do not line up with LEGO colors.

Bricklink managed to include a fair list of the matching color names with Studio
(data/StudioColorDefinition.txt) in which those few name clashes posed no problem.
So why not here as well? In the worst case you'd leave blanks for the conflicting
colors.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 8, 2020 02:27
 Subject: Re: Collecting the parts catalog
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  […]
I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations.

As of a few minutes ago, there were 52,433 PCC for parts in the catalogue.

But 17,695 have a “p” in their ID. That generally means they are decorated but
some are just multicoloured.

And 10,916 have a “c” in their ID. So they are composites and their composing
parts may already be counted, or not.
(Some cXX parts have no subparts, some subparts may not have PCCs, and you might
want to count the subparts and the composite or only the composite or only the
subparts….)

And some (~8600) have a “c” AND a “p” in their ID, but I didn’t dig deeper into
the IDs.

Plus, there a few doublets, e.g. parts from parts packs share a PCC.

And that doesn’t say how many parts exists but have no PCC in the catalogue.
I’d guess mostly parts not in a set or in older sets but there may still be
many thousands of them.

So, er, well, yeah, who knows how many part colour combinations?


That shows the PCC list is far from complete and includes many duplicates (variants
not distinguished by Bricklink).

The easier answer finally came to me: it can be derived from the colors page
(https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) by summing the appropriate column.
The 60.734 parts come in 81.263 color combinations in sets, as known on
Bricklink.
To be complete, the relevant summed columns are:
Known Parts: 81.263 unique part color combinations
On Wanted Lists: 182.281 unique part color combinations (so a great lot of wishful
thinking, hoping these parts will one day come available)
For Sale: 90.881 unique part color combinations (so a lot of factory escapes
or listing errors)

The 81.263 is including the patterned bricks, including variants, but excluding
parts that are not known to exist in sets. This last category includes all the
Modulex bricks as there seem to be no set inventories for these. Why is that?
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 7, 2020 06:58
 Subject: Re: Collecting the parts catalog
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

With over 60.000 parts in the catalog (14.969 without pattern, https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=-pattern&catType=P),
it is a challenge indeed. Some shops come a long way:

https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?sMM=7&sDD=7&sYY=2020&itemSeq=1&breakType=M&sortBy=1&q=&itemType=P®ionID=-1

(But you can't really trust the numbers if they have duplicate lots)

I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations. But then again, I don't actually buy just to
collect the catalog. That is secondary to buying for building.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 4, 2020 13:36
 Subject: Re: Smooth Slopes
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.

In Catalog, edk writes:
  The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.

Which specific part are you referring to here?

That must be
 
Part No: 3678a  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
* 
3678a Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
versus
 
Part No: 3678b  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
* 
3678b Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
That's the only slope I can think of that is as smooth as a windscreen.

There might be smooth slopes around for the purpose of better applying stickers.

As for removing variants: I'd rather see Bricklink evolve towards a better
system of dealing with this, like I and many others have suggested so many times.
But still, the distinction between smooth and textured slope surfaces has never
seen true to me anyway.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jul 2, 2020 10:50
 Subject: Re: Sprues
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

I would have been interested in buying them when I first discovered their use
in MOCs. I had to buy new leaves instead, in the hope they would include the
sprues.

This might be one of those cases where it would be good to make an exception
and include it in the catalogue. You could try to add it and see what the catmins
think of it. Whether the sprue alone stands a chance, I don't think so, but
the 'leaves on sprue' part has precedents in the flowers, coins and keys.

If that one is allowed, then all the others should be allowed too. Some of them
have uses, or may have uses in the future.

To have several parts on one sprue is quite common (https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=sprue),
but to have only one part on a sprue I can think of only the plant leaves. Are
there other single parts that are distributed on a sprue?
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 Posted: Jul 2, 2020 10:37
 Subject: Re: Sprues
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

I would have been interested in buying them when I first discovered their use
in MOCs. I had to buy new leaves instead, in the hope they would include the
sprues.

This might be one of those cases where it would be good to make an exception
and include it in the catalogue. You could try to add it and see what the catmins
think of it. Whether the sprue alone stands a chance, I don't think so, but
the 'leaves on sprue' part has precedents in the flowers, coins and keys.
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 Posted: Jun 28, 2020 07:14
 Subject: Re: Number bricks: which is which
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In Help, primadeluxe writes:
  The images in the inventory of part 3005pt9s and 3005pt9 do look a lot the same.
Is there any difference between them or has one just the wrong image?

In Help, primadeluxe writes:
  Thanks! Left is 3005pt9b, right is 3005pt9s, but the middle one? Does not look
the same as 3005pt9?

In Help, Edwin073 writes:
  In Help, primadeluxe writes:
  Can someone help me identify these number bricks, because in de catalog there
are three different entries, I have three different bricks, but they do not look
the same. And they have two different logo on the stud. See attached pictures.
Thanks!


Hello,

Maybe this helps?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=brick%201x1%209#T=P

Greetings Edwin

 
Part No: 3005pt9b  Name: Brick 1 x 1 with Blue Number 9 Pattern (Bold Font)
* 
3005pt9b Brick 1 x 1 with Blue Number 9 Pattern (Bold Font)
Parts: Brick, Decorated
is the bold font (NL: 'vetgedrukt' ) as in the left in your
picture,
 
Part No: 3005pt9s  Name: Brick 1 x 1 with Blue Number 9 Pattern (Serif Font)
* 
3005pt9s Brick 1 x 1 with Blue Number 9 Pattern (Serif Font)
Parts: Brick, Decorated
is the serif font (NL: 'met schreef' ) as in the right in
your picture.
 
Part No: 3005pt9  Name: Brick 1 x 1 with Blue Number 9 Pattern
* 
3005pt9 Brick 1 x 1 with Blue Number 9 Pattern
Parts: Brick, Decorated
is neither bold nor with serif, so must be the middle one in your
picture. It's image is a render, not a photo. This may explain why it looks
differently. Looking at the part numbering, it may have originally been intended
as the non-distinguished variety, but seeing your picture, it must be the plain
(thin) variety.
Can you upload your image as an additional image for these parts? I think it
is enlightening to see the bricks side by side for comparison.

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