Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | WOLKsite  | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8570-1 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, WOLKsite writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4265c Light Gray Technic Bush 1/2 Smooth (Extra)
* Change {2 to 3} Part Light Gray 4265c Technic Bush 1/2 Smooth
Comments from Submitter:
The official piece count for this set is 44, and this part is included in the inventory from LEGO. However, it is not used in any configuration shown in the instructions.
The same is the case for Kopaka Nuva (8571) but not Onua Nuva (8566) - though the Kopaka set has bigger issues in need of investigation.
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Yes, that inventory seems to be broken.
Four small gears are needed in the build: Two for the main build, one is added
to the left arm in the second build, and one is added to the back. This is confirmed
by LEGO data which also says that 4106469 is included and that only three 451926
is included. Don't see the former in instructions, and four of the latter
seem to be used for the second build (two in arms, one in neck and one in the
back).
More invenstigation is needed to fix this inventory and I unfortunately don't
have the time for it.
/Jan
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I agree that more investigation is needed. I don't know where the extra 451926
came from... However, the Peeron inventory may be of help: http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/8571-1
It also agrees that there are four gear pieces and an axle connector.
However, I am still doubtful; as far as I've seen, the instructions never
show four gears, nor four axles, in use all at once. In the configuration with
the gear and axle on the back, an axle-pin (43093) is used for the left arm.
I've also gone through the combination model shown in the instructions, and
the fourth gear/axle is not necessary to build it either.
As a last note, the official piece count is 43.
I've been wanting to get a sealed copy to confirm what the included parts
are but that's one big investment.
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The third third gear/axle is added on 21 if one wants to make the left arm rotate.
The third gear/axle is also needed for locking the arm movement shown own page
22. The set ought to either allow or not allow you to do both things if you wanted
to, so that would require a set of either three or four gears/axles which LEGO
says is not what the set contains (3 gears and 4 axles). It's really strange.
I believe a sealed set would be necessary.
/Jan
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Yeah.
The other Toa Nuva (aside from Pohatu on account of his different build) only
allow for one of the two configurations, with only 3 axles and 3 gears.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 16:49 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8570-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, WOLKsite writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4265c Light Gray Technic Bush 1/2 Smooth (Extra)
* Change {2 to 3} Part Light Gray 4265c Technic Bush 1/2 Smooth
Comments from Submitter:
The official piece count for this set is 44, and this part is included in the inventory from LEGO. However, it is not used in any configuration shown in the instructions.
The same is the case for Kopaka Nuva (8571) but not Onua Nuva (8566) - though the Kopaka set has bigger issues in need of investigation.
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Yes, that inventory seems to be broken.
Four small gears are needed in the build: Two for the main build, one is added
to the left arm in the second build, and one is added to the back. This is confirmed
by LEGO data which also says that 4106469 is included and that only three 451926
is included. Don't see the former in instructions, and four of the latter
seem to be used for the second build (two in arms, one in neck and one in the
back).
More invenstigation is needed to fix this inventory and I unfortunately don't
have the time for it.
/Jan
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I agree that more investigation is needed. I don't know where the extra 451926
came from... However, the Peeron inventory may be of help: http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/8571-1
It also agrees that there are four gear pieces and an axle connector.
However, I am still doubtful; as far as I've seen, the instructions never
show four gears, nor four axles, in use all at once. In the configuration with
the gear and axle on the back, an axle-pin (43093) is used for the left arm.
I've also gone through the combination model shown in the instructions, and
the fourth gear/axle is not necessary to build it either.
As a last note, the official piece count is 43.
I've been wanting to get a sealed copy to confirm what the included parts
are but that's one big investment.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 12:57 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8570-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4265c Light Gray Technic Bush 1/2 Smooth (Extra)
* Change {2 to 3} Part Light Gray 4265c Technic Bush 1/2 Smooth
Comments from Submitter:
The official piece count for this set is 44, and this part is included in the inventory from LEGO. However, it is not used in any configuration shown in the instructions.
The same is the case for Kopaka Nuva (8571) but not Onua Nuva (8566) - though the Kopaka set has bigger issues in need of investigation.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 24, 2024 15:25 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8568-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, WOLKsite writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4519 Black Technic, Axle 3L (Extra)
* Change {4 to 5} Part Black 4519 Technic, Axle 3L
Comments from Submitter:
Per the packaging, this set contains 44 pieces, and per the inventory from LEGO, the set contains 5 of these axles. Thus, this axle is not a spare piece.
However, I don't know why it is included. It is not used in the main model, nor in the combiner -- Across the three sets (8566, 8568, 8572) there are a total of 10 axles, but the combiner only uses 7.
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Actually no, my bad. All five axles are used in the configuration where the gear
function is locked, because unlike the other Toa Nuva, the limb that is not attached
to the mechanism still uses an axle.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 24, 2024 15:20 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8568-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4519 Black Technic, Axle 3L (Extra)
* Change {4 to 5} Part Black 4519 Technic, Axle 3L
Comments from Submitter:
Per the packaging, this set contains 44 pieces, and per the inventory from LEGO, the set contains 5 of these axles. Thus, this axle is not a spare piece.
However, I don't know why it is included. It is not used in the main model, nor in the combiner -- Across the three sets (8566, 8568, 8572) there are a total of 10 axles, but the combiner only uses 7.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2024 21:47 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8623-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
| | see the note
"The following part was included in this set and is shown on the official
parts list but is not necessary to build the model according to the instructions:
1x x71 White Rubber Belt Small (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 2 x 2"
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Additionally, the peice count shown on the box is 203.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2024 15:52 | | Subject: | Re: What’s the deal with 3803? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Catalog, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | 2. It has disappeared from Brickset. But then it’s a question for Brickset I
guess 
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I don't think it has been added to Brickset yet. I don't know how exactly
they import their parts data from LEGO, but apparently they don't always
update inventories of older sets to account for new variants that show up in
the official online parts list.
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Brickset checks set inventories. Since this isn't in a set inventory, they
wouldn't find it.
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It is in the 71043 inventory:
https://www.bricklink.com/r3/inventorycomparison/main.page?sourceB=1&invB=71043&sourceA=0&invA=71043-1
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Ah, then I don't know why it hasn't been updated, given that a lot older
sets have been updated recently (such as with the introduction of part 93571,
annoyingly).
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2024 15:45 | | Subject: | Re: What’s the deal with 3803? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | Hi,
What’s the deal with
The part has been added to the catalogue but is not in any set.
— Brickset doesn’t have it anymore.
“Anymore” because, obviously, the BL image is a render from LEGO, and Rebrickable
has a link to its (now non-existent) page on Brickset.
— Rebrickable has it as an alternate for
— LDraw has a 3D model.
— I think I remember it being shown on some site (NewElementary?) but I can’t
find it.
Cancelled? Postponed?
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There's also
Maybe it's an alternate for two of the half-plates (18980)?
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2024 15:41 | | Subject: | Re: What’s the deal with 3803? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, Turez writes:
| | […]
Rebrickable is correct.
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Well, not completely correct if 3803 and 48723 are functionally different
| | Part 48723 is no longer in production and has been replaced
with 68888 and 3803. 48723 has an axle hole on one side and a pin hole on the
other side. Most sets require the axle hole, so 68888 can be used as an alternate
part. But in set 71043 the pin hole is needed, therefore later copies of that
set probably come with 3803. Maybe that is already the case, but we need proof
from a sealed set before we can add the alternate part.
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Understood but what I found strange is that:
1. It’s already in the catalogue while it’s not in any set yet. But then Stellar
is saying it’s in PaB… but then a second question arises: why is it not in
? Too late? And it’s still too early for ?
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We just hadn't thought about adding it to the PaB sets because it was quite
obvious that it will show up in 71043 sooner or later. 
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2. It has disappeared from Brickset. But then it’s a question for Brickset I
guess
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I don't think it has been added to Brickset yet. I don't know how exactly
they import their parts data from LEGO, but apparently they don't always
update inventories of older sets to account for new variants that show up in
the official online parts list.
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Brickset checks set inventories. Since this isn't in a set inventory, they
wouldn't find it.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2024 14:36 | | Subject: | Re: Variants Thread - February 12 | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Hello again everyone,
Below I have listed the general groups of variants we are tackling and the results
of the deliberation over the last month. I was originally planning to provide
a schedule for when these changes will happen, but based on the progress with
the tiles since February 1, I am hesitant to commit to any timeline except that
we will not change anything on this list prior to February 15.
Frosted bricks
These will be merged as planned, and a new Help Page is being written on this
topic.
Smooth slopes
These will be merged as planned, and a new Help Page is being written on this
topic.
Connections between studs
This whole class of variants will NOT be merged as part of this project. Complete
research needs to be done for the related 1 x 3 inverted slopes and the differing
angles, plus more work to understand how the 2 x 2 inverted slope relates to
these parts.
Sprue marks
The minifigure chair was the only one in this category and it will be merged
as planned.
Torsos with ribs
This whole class of variants will NOT be merged as part of this project. However,
we will rename these parts to remove the “ribs” depending on if we can get some
better photos. We will also place a moratorium on any new torsos distinguished
by underside ribs.
Inside supports
We will merge 46212 (Brick 1 x 2 x 5) as planned, but as part of this project
we will not be touching 32064c (Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole and Side Supports)
or 10247 (Plate Modified 2 x 2 with Pin Hole). More research needs to be done
in regards to the practical use cases of the parts and their actual use in LEGO
sets. As part of this project, however, we will also mark part 772 for deletion
(with a 3 month time frame before a merge), even though it wasn’t on the original
list. This variant likely does not even exist and it’s similar in class to the
46212.
X-shaped axle holes
These will be merged as planned.
Hinges with teeth
These will be merged as planned, and a new Help Page is being written on this
topic.
Duplo bricks with bottom tubes
These will be merged as planned.
Blocked and vented studs
These will be merged as planned, and a new Help Page is being written on this
topic.
Determined entries for very common parts
Update: We are well on our way through the decorated versions of 3 out of the
4 parts. Another 250 of these are scheduled to be changed on Tuesday (tomorrow).
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Firstly, thank you for the update!
Secondly, I still disagree with merging of 46212. I find the argument "it
only exists in transparent colors" as hypocritical towards removing frosted
bricks, which quite the opposite, were only recognized in transparent colors
despite technically existing for opaque colors.
Colors should not be a factor in what is a different part. Molds should not be
sorted by colors, colors should be sorted by colors.
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