| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Leftoverbricks  | | Posted: | Dec 23, 2020 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: Why are new parts not added quicker to cat? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | Why can't BL just import all new parts from LEGO automatically (just like
RB and BS) and attach a label to them with something like "still to be considered/weighed/photographed/measured
by Bricklink's catalog administrators"?
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I understand it's frustrating that the catalog isn't updated more frequently.
Some thoughts:
Rebrickable and Brickset aren't marketplaces.
Adding parts to our catalog before they're actually released enables multiple
problems.
The catalog team doesn't have physical access to new parts.
Of the activities you mentioned, we can only consider submissions. We can't
weigh, photograph, or measure things we don't have. It's true that
all of us have personal LEGO part collections, but we don't get new parts
when they're released - we have to buy them in sets like everyone else.
BrickLink is a community effort.
It sounds like you want to sacrifice what BrickLink has always been to gain convenience.
If the catalog is not updated with new items in a timely manner, the community
(including the catalog team) is responsible. Instead of shifting that responsibility
to others, why not accept it?
Why have you not submitted these new parts to the catalog with renders or photos
so that we can have them ready to go on January 1st when the new wave of sets
is released?
Be careful what you ask for.
If you were to keep pushing, you might eventually convince the LEGO Group to
come in and take over the catalog from the community. Your success may (or certainly
may not - don't be so sure of it) give you the convenience you want, but
you will also have succeeded in giving away the catalog and the community's
say-so in how it's kept.
Do you really want the LEGO Group running the catalog? If you do, then I can
assure you with complete confidence that you don't know the LEGO Group as
well as you imagine.
| | Buyers who are reading reviews on the aforementioned sites (but also NewElementary)
would have a better experience on BL(XP)
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I don't know about you, friend, but it's hard for me to imagine anyone
having a good experience on XP.
| | Since BL is now owned by TLG I really, really don't get this!
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I'll explain it simply: a year after they bought the site, TLG is keeping
their word and allowing the community to retain control of the catalog.
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I agree with most of what you said above. However, in my post I specifically
mentioned "still to be considered/weighed/photographed/measured by Bricklink's
catalog administrators"
Perhaps I should elaborate on this.
So, let's start the dream...
When new parts are made by TLG the main data from these parts, including the
part number and official LEGO pictures, is sent to BL. Of course the information
sent comes with all usual disclaimers large companies apply to this kind of information.
I fully understand that.
There also may be an embargo in effect on which date these data may be used for
the first time. Since TLG sends out new sets for review to sites like Brickset,
Brother's Bricks and New Elementary to name a few of the larger sites, the
embargo should ideally last no longer than the date they send out the review
sets.
Dream continues:
At this moment BL (the largest bricks marketplace in the world and owned by TLG)
have data from the first hand and what BL could do is list these new parts
with an even stronger disclaimer than the one TLG forced upon BL when sending
the data.
For instance: We provide the number of this part and the picture as a courtesy
to our marketplace. Please use it as is. We are not responsible blabla or
any wording that suits the admins and thus ascertains that only after the usual
approval time the new part gets a definite status. (And definite is not definite
on BL!)
Here my 'dream' ended.
And when I was fully awake, making coffee and preparing to go to work, I realized
it was not just a dream but a prophecy.
Anyway: please consider my proposal.
And have nice holidays - COVID-wise.
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 11:22 | | Subject: | Why are new parts not added quicker to cat? | | Viewed: | 130 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| New parts that already can be found on Rebrickable and Brickset are not in the
catalog on BL.
Rebrickable and Brickset extract the information from the LEGO website.
example parts: 69958 and 71772 (https://rebrickable.com/search/?show_printed=on&include_accessory=1&q=71772&search_type=all).
Why can't BL just import all new parts from LEGO automatically (just like
RB and BS) and attach a label to them with something like "still to be considered/weighed/photographed/measured
by Bricklink's catalog administrators"?
Buyers who are reading reviews on the aforementioned sites (but also NewElementary)
would have a better experience on BL(XP) when they can at least search for the
new parts. This way new parts would also be available to sellers to sell - and
for buyers to buy.
Since BL is now owned by TLG I really, really don't get this!
It would be nice to get a reply from @Admin - I'm looking at Julia and Marvin
from TLG.
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Dec 9, 2020 09:46 | | Subject: | Re: Why is this part in Panels? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Turez writes:
Thanks, haven't seen that one. But none of the catmins joined that discussion
so here's my invitation to the catmins to have their say.
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2020 07:03 | | Subject: | Re: Part 15712 in hitherto unknown color. | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, tonnic writes:
| | I have an First Order Stormtrooper with flamethrower on his back that is adjusted
with part 15712 black tile modified 1x1 open O clip.
One of these 15712 isn’t black but trans black, see my own made picture.
Not in any other set, not being sold in the last 6 months if I see it well.
It is the real deal, marked with Lego and partnumber.
If a Dutch Bricklinkmember is interested: make me an offer.
Shipping abroad would be very expensive since I cannot offer the lower shippingcosts
some Dutch sellers can, sorry!
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I could ship it for you to someone abroad 
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Oct 26, 2020 12:15 | | Subject: | Re: Old and new trans-clear parts: what to do? | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Anyway, there’s still the second point: LEGO uses the same colour name / still
considers them the same colour.
BL could make a new colour to differentiate the two shades but that will be difficult
to enforce (and confusing).
We risk having many Alternates. The inventories that are pre-filled with LEGO’s
data will need to be checked more thoroughly for yet another variant.
And then it’s also an open door to differentiate all the shades of all the inconsistent
colours.
Pros and cons have to be weighted carefully.
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Good point. On Brick Owl there's a pre defined setting for sellers where
they can select if they differentiate between particular part variants (see pic).
It would be nice if there was a similar ~ and mandatory ~ check for all shops
here on BL. Default should be set to 'No'. Same could be done about very
obvious colour variants.
Pearl Gold and trans-clear being the first candidates.
There's a lot to say about this. Look forward to read your thoughts.
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Oct 26, 2020 11:52 | | Subject: | Re: Old and new trans-clear parts: what to do? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I'ld like some guidance from the catalog admins here. How to describe the
other type of plastic and reduced opacity?
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I'm honestly not entirely sure we can guide you on this issue.
Yes, I would probably be dissatisfied as a buyer if I got the yellowed parts
in your picture. But there are a number of existing colors that vary, some rather
significantly (dark red, pearl gold, etc.). TLG is fairly careful about certain
aspects of their products, but color definitely ain't one of them.
I think the best thing you could do in this situation is include a note in your
item-for-sale listings briefly describing the differences in appearance. Or,
what might be better: list them separately.
I don't think there's anything we can do as CAs to resolve this issue.
It would be highly impractical to add new colors to our palette to account for
unintentional quality variations.
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Agree with your last sentence.
Making a note in the description (same what Randy suggested) sounds like a way
to tackle this problem but in practice it's hardly doable. When I add items
(part out sets) to my inventory the lots are merged. I already have over 5500
lots.
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Oct 26, 2020 00:52 | | Subject: | Re: Old and new trans-clear parts: what to do? | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I'm surprised that my post didn't receive more reactions. So I'm
bumping this.
Sellers? Catalog admins?
Greetings, Martin
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If you are concerned, separate them in your store with notes on each one. Other
sellers do the same thing with the varying shades of Pearl Gold or Trans-Orange,
so why would this be any different?
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I'ld like some guidance from the catalog admins here. How to describe the
other type of plastic and reduced opacity?
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Oct 25, 2020 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Old and new trans-clear parts: what to do? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | Again the picture. |
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Oct 25, 2020 13:30 | | Subject: | Re: Old and new trans-clear parts: what to do? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I'm surprised that my post didn't receive more reactions. So I'm
bumping this.
Sellers? Catalog admins?
Greetings, Martin
In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | As some of you will know: TLG recently changed the plastic they were using to
mould trans-clear elements.
I remember having read some critical comments about this, perhaps on New Elementary
or on the Brickset Forum, but I can't remember exactly where.
Anyway: the new plastic material that is used by TLG today is far more prone
to scratching than the old plastic. The colour is also significant different.
I show this in picture below. The trans clear parts on the right side are from
sets that I purchased (and parted out for my shop) before 2019/2020. The parts
on the left side were purchased via the PAB wall in a LEGO shop, but they are
common in recent sets as well.
So my question is: what to do?
Suppose someone orders 8 1x2 transparent bricks from my shop and I send him/her
4x a brick from the left side of my picture and 4x a brick from the right side?
I don't think the customer will be happy!
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