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 Posted: Feb 28, 2021 14:29
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I guess the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a weapon when it is lit?

No. A lightsaber is always a weapon. A handgun is always a weapon, even when
it isn’t loaded.


In that case, Prime Empire Red Visors have lightsaber-bayonets:
 
Set No: 71708  Name: Gamer's Market
* 
71708-1 (Inv) Gamer's Market
176 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: NINJAGO: Prime Empire

As do A.I.M. soldiers (Which makes sense, considering 1.) they are A.I.M., and
2.) they need to compete with S.H.I.E.L.D.'s shotgun-axe technology):
 
Set No: 76164  Name: Iron Man Hulkbuster versus A.I.M. Agent
* 
76164-1 (Inv) Iron Man Hulkbuster versus A.I.M. Agent
437 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Super Heroes: Avengers

LEGO City Police use lightsabers disguised as flashlights (which explains their
lack of guns (except for that one time)):
 
Set No: 60048  Name: Police Dog Unit
* 
60048-1 (Inv) Police Dog Unit
237 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: Town: City: Police

This is canon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jK4XnaAQQ


Rey actually had her lightsaber built into her staff all along:
 
Set No: 75099  Name: Rey's Speeder
* 
75099-1 (Inv) Rey's Speeder
185 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 7

Firefighters have an entire rack of lightsabers (for job-security purposes?):
 
Set No: 10197  Name: Fire Brigade
* 
10197-1 (Inv) Fire Brigade
2215 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2009
Sets: Creator: Creator Expert: Modular Buildings Collection

The Ninja use them all the time - As torches:
 
Set No: 70671  Name: Lloyd's Journey
* 
70671-1 (Inv) Lloyd's Journey
70 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: NINJAGO: Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu

Built into spears:
 
Set No: 9566  Name: Samurai X
* 
9566-1 (Inv) Samurai X
11 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 5 Gear, 2012
Sets: NINJAGO: Rise of the Snakes: Spinners

Cole has two built into the cockpit of his mech:
 
Set No: 70723  Name: Thunder Raider
* 
70723-1 (Inv) Thunder Raider
320 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: NINJAGO: Rebooted

Lloyd has one hidden in the bumper of his car (And Nya has another in her trident!):
 
Set No: 70641  Name: Ninja Nightcrawler
* 
70641-1 (Inv) Ninja Nightcrawler
532 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: NINJAGO: Sons of Garmadon


In seriousness, though, the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a lightsaber
when it is being used as a lightsaber. Part (64567) has been used in many
other (often non-weapon and non-lightsaber) assemblies as a bar/connector, so
categorising it as a "Minifigure, Weapon" both only acknowledges one possible
use for the part, as well as making the part more difficult to find (since most
would search for it as a bar - particularly considering the fact that Part (92690)
is considered a "Bar", despite its numerous uses in weapon-assemblies). Conversely,
guns are almost never used as anything but guns (Set (76157) is the only
example that I can think of wherein guns are used in a non-weapon assembly),
so leaving them in "Minifigure, Weapon" makes sense.
 
Set No: 76157  Name: Wonder Woman vs Cheetah
* 
76157-1 (Inv) Wonder Woman vs Cheetah
357 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Super Heroes: Wonder Woman 1984
 
Part No: 92690  Name: Bar   1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
* 
92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar

Additionally, Part (66909) is very debatably a weapon, since (at least until
Maul inevitably uses it for his lightsaber) its only use as a weapon has been
as the ends of a staff - It is more often used for flagpoles/railings/other non-weapon
features within the same theme. As such, it should be classified a "Bar", similarly
to Part (92690).
 
Set No: 80006  Name: White Dragon Horse Bike
* 
80006-1 (Inv) White Dragon Horse Bike
238 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Monkie Kid
 
Part No: 66909  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Hilt Smooth Extended
* 
66909 Minifigure, Weapon Hilt Smooth Extended
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 92690  Name: Bar   1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
* 
92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar

Moreover, the "a part that can be a weapon always is a weapon"
reasoning could be extended to Part (60849), since it has more often been used
to represent a gun than it has a "Hose Nozzle":
 
Part No: 60849  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Hose Nozzle Elaborate
* 
60849 Minifigure, Utensil Hose Nozzle Elaborate
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
 
Set No: 75146  Name: Advent Calendar 2016, Star Wars (Day  2) - Bespin Guard
* 
75146-3 (Inv) Advent Calendar 2016, Star Wars (Day 2) - Bespin Guard
1 Part, 1 Minifigure, 2016
Sets: Holiday & Event: Advent Sub-Set: Star Wars
 
Set No: 75015  Name: Corporate Alliance Tank Droid
* 
75015-1 (Inv) Corporate Alliance Tank Droid
262 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 2
 
Set No: 75299  Name: Trouble on Tatooine
* 
75299-1 (Inv) Trouble on Tatooine
266 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2021
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars The Mandalorian
 
Set No: 8637  Name: Mission 8: Volcano Base
* 
8637-1 (Inv) Mission 8: Volcano Base
688 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Agents

That said, I do not think that Part (60849) should be in the "Minifigure, Weapon"
category, since it has also been used in countless other non-weapon assemblies
(I actually think that it should also be moved to the "Bar" category, as well).




  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.


Parts (64567), (66909), (61199), and (x156) from "Minifigure, Weapon" to "Bar".
 
Part No: 64567  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight
* 
64567 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 66909  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Hilt Smooth Extended
* 
66909 Minifigure, Weapon Hilt Smooth Extended
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 61199  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Short with Ridges
* 
61199 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Short with Ridges
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: x156  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Angled
* 
x156 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Angled
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

I understand where your coming from and maybe it might work for just the standard hilts but those curved ones are very much for weapon use and since they ideally need to be in the same location I'm torn between puting them under weapons or bars though bars seems like the wrong description?


The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.

  At the same time I do actually think these should also be located in the same location as the hilts:-
 
Part No: 64644  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Telescope
* 
64644 Minifigure, Utensil Telescope
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil


Good point - Part (64644) should be moved from "Minifigure, Utensil" to "Bar".


  So perhaps it just requires a new category 'Bar Holders' or 'Bar Connectors' or if the hilts go under bars I think some re-wording of the category would be required such as 'Bars & Bar Holders'


I am not sure that an entirely new category is needed, since pieces like Part
(64567) are simultaneously Bars and Bar-Holders, though I would support renaming
the "Bar" category to something like "Bar & Connector".
 
Part No: 64567  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight
* 
64567 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon


  
 
Part No: 18673  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight with Ring
* 
18673 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight with Ring
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 36017  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword Hilt with Dragon Head
* 
36017 Minifigure, Weapon Sword Hilt with Dragon Head
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon


Agreed - Part (18673) and Part (36017) should be moved from "Minifigure, Weapon"
to "Bar".
 
Part No: 18673  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight with Ring
* 
18673 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight with Ring
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 36017  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword Hilt with Dragon Head
* 
36017 Minifigure, Weapon Sword Hilt with Dragon Head
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

This reads like an argument that
 
Part No: 53119  Name: Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Horizontal Swirl / Twist
* 
53119 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Horizontal Swirl / Twist
Parts: Plate, Round
should definitely not be in food, as it has other uses such as dog poop. It only becomes food when put on an ice cream or cake or similar. Otherwise it is just a 1x1 round plate or tile that has been modified with multiple uses. Same with
 
Part No: 15470  Name: Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Vertical Swirl / Twist
* 
15470 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Vertical Swirl / Twist
Parts: Plate, Round


The difference is that while there is an obvious alternative category for Part
(64567), et al, there is not one for Parts (53119) and (15470). As they
are neither Plates (as they do not have a stud on the top) nor Tiles (as they
do not have flat tops), they do not belong in either category. The "Food & Drink"
category is where Part (6254) is (despite its having been used for non-food items
such as smoke), which is similar to the parts in-question in that it has no obvious
alternative category.
 
Part No: 6254  Name: Ice Cream Scoops
* 
6254 Ice Cream Scoops
Parts: Food & Drink
 
Set No: 41398  Name: 4+ Stephanie's House
* 
41398-1 (Inv) 4+ Stephanie's House
158 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Friends


Now that I think of it, these pieces would actually fit into the new "Cone &
Dome" category, since they are such, respectively (albeit with a swirl/grooved
pattern). This would still leave Part (6254) in "Food & Drink", though. 😕
 
Part No: 53119  Name: Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Horizontal Swirl / Twist
* 
53119 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Horizontal Swirl / Twist
Parts: Plate, Round
 
Part No: 15470  Name: Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Vertical Swirl / Twist
* 
15470 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Vertical Swirl / Twist
Parts: Plate, Round
 
Part No: 6254  Name: Ice Cream Scoops
* 
6254 Ice Cream Scoops
Parts: Food & Drink

Those parts are just as much a (modified) round plate as a dragon's head
hilt is a bar.
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I guess the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a weapon when it is lit?

No. A lightsaber is always a weapon. A handgun is always a weapon, even when
it isn’t loaded.


In that case, Prime Empire Red Visors have lightsaber-bayonets:
 
Set No: 71708  Name: Gamer's Market
* 
71708-1 (Inv) Gamer's Market
176 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: NINJAGO: Prime Empire

As do A.I.M. soldiers (Which makes sense, considering 1.) they are A.I.M., and
2.) they need to compete with S.H.I.E.L.D.'s shotgun-axe technology):
 
Set No: 76164  Name: Iron Man Hulkbuster versus A.I.M. Agent
* 
76164-1 (Inv) Iron Man Hulkbuster versus A.I.M. Agent
437 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Super Heroes: Avengers

LEGO City Police use lightsabers disguised as flashlights (which explains their
lack of guns (except for that one time)):
 
Set No: 60048  Name: Police Dog Unit
* 
60048-1 (Inv) Police Dog Unit
237 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: Town: City: Police

This is canon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jK4XnaAQQ


Rey actually had her lightsaber built into her staff all along:
 
Set No: 75099  Name: Rey's Speeder
* 
75099-1 (Inv) Rey's Speeder
185 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 7

Firefighters have an entire rack of lightsabers (for job-security purposes?):
 
Set No: 10197  Name: Fire Brigade
* 
10197-1 (Inv) Fire Brigade
2215 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2009
Sets: Creator: Creator Expert: Modular Buildings Collection

The Ninja use them all the time - As torches:
 
Set No: 70671  Name: Lloyd's Journey
* 
70671-1 (Inv) Lloyd's Journey
70 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: NINJAGO: Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu

Built into spears:
 
Set No: 9566  Name: Samurai X
* 
9566-1 (Inv) Samurai X
11 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 5 Gear, 2012
Sets: NINJAGO: Rise of the Snakes: Spinners

Cole has two built into the cockpit of his mech:
 
Set No: 70723  Name: Thunder Raider
* 
70723-1 (Inv) Thunder Raider
320 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: NINJAGO: Rebooted

Lloyd has one hidden in the bumper of his car (And Nya has another in her trident!):
 
Set No: 70641  Name: Ninja Nightcrawler
* 
70641-1 (Inv) Ninja Nightcrawler
532 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: NINJAGO: Sons of Garmadon


In seriousness, though, the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a lightsaber
when it is being used as a lightsaber. Part (64567) has been used in many
other (often non-weapon and non-lightsaber) assemblies as a bar/connector, so
categorising it as a "Minifigure, Weapon" both only acknowledges one possible
use for the part, as well as making the part more difficult to find (since most
would search for it as a bar - particularly considering the fact that Part (92690)
is considered a "Bar", despite its numerous uses in weapon-assemblies). Conversely,
guns are almost never used as anything but guns (Set (76157) is the only
example that I can think of wherein guns are used in a non-weapon assembly),
so leaving them in "Minifigure, Weapon" makes sense.
 
Set No: 76157  Name: Wonder Woman vs Cheetah
* 
76157-1 (Inv) Wonder Woman vs Cheetah
357 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Super Heroes: Wonder Woman 1984
 
Part No: 92690  Name: Bar   1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
* 
92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar

Additionally, Part (66909) is very debatably a weapon, since (at least until
Maul inevitably uses it for his lightsaber) its only use as a weapon has been
as the ends of a staff - It is more often used for flagpoles/railings/other non-weapon
features within the same theme. As such, it should be classified a "Bar", similarly
to Part (92690).
 
Set No: 80006  Name: White Dragon Horse Bike
* 
80006-1 (Inv) White Dragon Horse Bike
238 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Monkie Kid
 
Part No: 66909  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Hilt Smooth Extended
* 
66909 Minifigure, Weapon Hilt Smooth Extended
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 92690  Name: Bar   1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
* 
92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar

Moreover, the "a part that can be a weapon always is a weapon"
reasoning could be extended to Part (60849), since it has more often been used
to represent a gun than it has a "Hose Nozzle":
 
Part No: 60849  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Hose Nozzle Elaborate
* 
60849 Minifigure, Utensil Hose Nozzle Elaborate
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
 
Set No: 75146  Name: Advent Calendar 2016, Star Wars (Day  2) - Bespin Guard
* 
75146-3 (Inv) Advent Calendar 2016, Star Wars (Day 2) - Bespin Guard
1 Part, 1 Minifigure, 2016
Sets: Holiday & Event: Advent Sub-Set: Star Wars
 
Set No: 75015  Name: Corporate Alliance Tank Droid
* 
75015-1 (Inv) Corporate Alliance Tank Droid
262 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 2
 
Set No: 75299  Name: Trouble on Tatooine
* 
75299-1 (Inv) Trouble on Tatooine
266 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2021
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars The Mandalorian
 
Set No: 8637  Name: Mission 8: Volcano Base
* 
8637-1 (Inv) Mission 8: Volcano Base
688 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Agents

That said, I do not think that Part (60849) should be in the "Minifigure, Weapon"
category, since it has also been used in countless other non-weapon assemblies
(I actually think that it should also be moved to the "Bar" category, as well).




  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.


Parts (64567), (66909), (61199), and (x156) from "Minifigure, Weapon" to "Bar".
 
Part No: 64567  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight
* 
64567 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 66909  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Hilt Smooth Extended
* 
66909 Minifigure, Weapon Hilt Smooth Extended
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 61199  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Short with Ridges
* 
61199 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Short with Ridges
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: x156  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Angled
* 
x156 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Angled
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

I understand where your coming from and maybe it might work for just the standard hilts but those curved ones are very much for weapon use and since they ideally need to be in the same location I'm torn between puting them under weapons or bars though bars seems like the wrong description?


The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.

  At the same time I do actually think these should also be located in the same location as the hilts:-
 
Part No: 64644  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Telescope
* 
64644 Minifigure, Utensil Telescope
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil


Good point - Part (64644) should be moved from "Minifigure, Utensil" to "Bar".


  So perhaps it just requires a new category 'Bar Holders' or 'Bar Connectors' or if the hilts go under bars I think some re-wording of the category would be required such as 'Bars & Bar Holders'


I am not sure that an entirely new category is needed, since pieces like Part
(64567) are simultaneously Bars and Bar-Holders, though I would support renaming
the "Bar" category to something like "Bar & Connector".
 
Part No: 64567  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight
* 
64567 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon


  
 
Part No: 18673  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight with Ring
* 
18673 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight with Ring
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 36017  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword Hilt with Dragon Head
* 
36017 Minifigure, Weapon Sword Hilt with Dragon Head
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon


Agreed - Part (18673) and Part (36017) should be moved from "Minifigure, Weapon"
to "Bar".
 
Part No: 18673  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight with Ring
* 
18673 Minifigure, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight with Ring
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
 
Part No: 36017  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword Hilt with Dragon Head
* 
36017 Minifigure, Weapon Sword Hilt with Dragon Head
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

This reads like an argument that
 
Part No: 53119  Name: Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Horizontal Swirl / Twist
* 
53119 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Horizontal Swirl / Twist
Parts: Plate, Round
should definitely not be in food, as it has other uses such as dog poop. It only
becomes food when put on an ice cream or cake or similar. Otherwise it is just
a 1x1 round plate or tile that has been modified with multiple uses. Same with
 
Part No: 15470  Name: Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Vertical Swirl / Twist
* 
15470 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Vertical Swirl / Twist
Parts: Plate, Round
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The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.


So where will axe heads and some sword blades go, as they are also not weapons
by themselves, just used to build weapons.
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In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.


Parts (15470) and (53119) from "Plate, Round" to "Food and Drink".
 
Part No: 15470  Name: Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Vertical Swirl / Twist
* 
15470 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Vertical Swirl / Twist
Parts: Plate, Round
 
Part No: 53119  Name: Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Horizontal Swirl / Twist
* 
53119 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Horizontal Swirl / Twist
Parts: Plate, Round

Bon appetit

 
Set No: col19  Name: Dog Sitter, Series 19 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 
col19-9 (Inv) Dog Sitter, Series 19 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
5 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2019
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 19 Minifigures


There are not really any other categories where these parts would fit,
though. 😕

They fit perfectly well in plate, round. If these are moving, presumably the
flowers will also move to plants, and other similar shaped parts will also get
moved out. This may well make things harder to find, as you'd have to look
through multiple categories to find things if you don't know what they are.
Whereas keeping parts based on round plates in the plates, round category means
if you know the shape then you can easily browse all parts with that shape.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  What does base and thickness mean here?

You bring up good points. There hasn't been a clear line drawn in the past
between what is a Brick, Modified vs. Plate, Modified. That line could be drawn
as follows:

1. Everything not as tall as a full brick is a modified plate.
2. Everything taller than one plate is a modified brick.
3. Everything between brick and plate goes in a separate in-between category.

The in-between items aren't actually bricks or plates. I went with
number 2 when writing category definitions rather than trying to create entirely
new categories for these items, but the same basic arguments could be made for
going with number 1 instead.

I'll attempt to modify the definitions (including possibly going with number
1 instead) to make a little more sense out of the whole thing.

 
Part No: 18975  Name: Technic, Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 with Pin Holes and 2 x 2 Cutout
* 
18975 Technic, Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 with Pin Holes and 2 x 2 Cutout
Parts: Technic, Brick

This was a part I couldn't recall/find earlier.

If this wasn't technic but a regular plate with regular bricks on the sides,
when considering the base of the part, is it a plate with bricks added on,
or a 1 1/3 high brick with a large hole cut out of it. I guess it is one of those
"depends" answers, like is an in-between jumper style part a plate with studs
removed or a tile with studs added.
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What does base and thickness mean here?

 
Part No: 27928  Name: Wedge, Plate 2 x 2 Pentagonal with Center Stud and 1 x 1/2 Raised Tab on Top
* 
27928 Wedge, Plate 2 x 2 Pentagonal with Center Stud and 1 x 1/2 Raised Tab on Top
Parts: Wedge, Plate

1. No parts with a base thicker than a standard plate.

Isn't part of that base thicker than a standard plate, as part of it (directly
above the base) is two tiles high. Or is it a plate high base with something
extra on top?


This is a bit further, are these are a plate thickness base, with another plate
on top:

 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified


And then if it covers the whole base, so this:

 
Part No: 71752  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 Ribbed with Axle Hole
* 
71752 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 Ribbed with Axle Hole
Parts: Brick, Modified

Is that still a plate high base with something on top, or is the whole thing
a two plates high base? And then presumably a short brick rather than a tall
plate.

I'm wondering what would happen in the hypothetical situation that LEGO created
a whole series of parts that were, for example, a 2x8 plate with a 1x1 plate
on top, the next with 2 1x1 plates on top (whether side by side or separate),
then 3 ..., then 15, then 16.

Are they all modified plates, or are 1-15 modified plates and once the sixteenth
one goes on top and covers the whole base it becomes a 2x8x2/3 brick.


Or to put it in another way, what is the base of these parts?

 
Part No: 4488  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder
* 
4488 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 52038  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 4 - 1 x 4 with 2 Recessed Studs and Thick Side Arches
* 
52038 Brick, Modified 2 x 4 - 1 x 4 with 2 Recessed Studs and Thick Side Arches
Parts: Brick, Modified
 
Part No: 18922  Name: Brick, Modified 8 x 16 x 2/3 with 1 x 4 Indentations and 1 x 4 Plate
* 
18922 Brick, Modified 8 x 16 x 2/3 with 1 x 4 Indentations and 1 x 4 Plate
Parts: Brick, Modified
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  Was searching my train department upside down for this part...

[P=c]

But I see it is in "Wheel"... is this a mistake? Since, well, it clearly is not
a wheel

 
Part No: 38339  Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots
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38339 Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 38339c01  Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train with Pins (38339 / 38340)
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38339c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train with Pins (38339 / 38340)
Parts: Wheel

The same is true for another train wheel holder and assembly:

 
Part No: 2878  Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder
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2878 Train Wheel RC, Holder
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 2878c01  Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Black Train Wheel Pair on Chrome Silver Metal Axle with Slots (2878 / 2879c01)
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2878c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Black Train Wheel Pair on Chrome Silver Metal Axle with Slots (2878 / 2879c01)
Parts: Wheel
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In Colors, BellaFux writes:
  Hi there,

I am currently separating different horse types from each other - there are a
few hundred of them here with me.


I found my way through all the colours and types until the simple white horse
-

here on BL it has 4493c01pb04 - white horse with Black Eyes, White Pupils
and DARK ORANGE bridle Pattern .

On brick owl the same Item number says "white horse blabla eyes and BROWN
bridle. (the picture looks very much like dark orange)

I have a lot of them, and some sure look brown, some sure dark orange (I dont
think it is just faded)
but there seems to be no distinction in the item number...


if I want to sell them - do I put both under the same item number???


thanks a lot for your help!!

It is printed, so it is neither of them. Some examples are close to one of the
colours, other examples closer to the other. And many somewhere in between. If
you have any that are far from the named colour, I'd mention it so a buyer
knows what they are getting. Otherwise, ignore it, as there are often variations
in print density and hence colour.
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  Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.

Because it was decided that they are not figures ...

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1218528
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  As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.

If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.

This has already been posted by BL staff in response to a US / non-UK seller
about VAT:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1245416

BrickLink is now a registered marketplace in the UK, meaning the burden of
the
VAT is on BrickLink, and not you as a seller. You can send whatever size of
order you like to the UK on BrickLink. Don't feel you need to limit orders
to 135 GBP and above.



From the wording, I would take it as the burden of the VAT calculation and collection
is on BL, not on individual sellers. Quite why this statement was made at that
time, I do not know, as it is clear that BL are not calculating or collecting
VAT for imports into the UK.
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In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
  Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:

If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"


It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.

From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"


Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?

Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".

http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/

These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.

The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.

All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.

So, what does the seller's invoice look like?

The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com

If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK) then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.

Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.

Yes, although some indication of when they will be doing something about it would
be useful. Are they waiting for the EU changes to come in before bothering with
the UK? Are they going to get the UK version up and running to test it works
before the EU changes come in? Are they going to do nothing about it and hope
everyone just gives up and the problem goes away? Nobody really knows anything.
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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, mvfisker writes:
  Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten

Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.

I think they already had websites with timezones in 2004..

TLG had big plans with BrickLink but is choking now..

BrickLink is busy with USA sales taxes, we really should not expect multitasking
in their attempts to break things. They did say they will address the Brexit
issues before 5 February (they did not say which aeon though).

No, we should expect. After all we pay fees for this site. It was long time known
Brexit was coming, they should have been ready for it.

As almost everyone on this forum knows I am not Bricklink's biggest fan as
far as developmenet work goes however I think in this case it is fair to say
that the UK hasn't yet got it right and neither does the rest of the EU -
Just look at the below from a site we use regularly. (Don't forget we still
have VAT to look forward to

Yes, true. UK hasn't got it on the track. EU does however. On the short term
EU draws the longest straw, more and more companies are moving away from UK in
favor of EU or elsewhere. That is a loss for the UK regrettably, but needles
to say UK wanted the Brexit no the EU. On the long run it is inconclusive if
this development is a good thing. Cooperation is imo the better road how complicated
it might be.

So maybe it is the best of worst to exclude UK for now. Until they got their
things together. But I give you this, it is very complicated.

Things are together, at least at other websites. I've ordered non-lego parts
from aliexpress since the change from different sellers. VAT was charged and
all were clear on the declaration that VAT was paid. Similarly I've ordered
lego parts from Germany, via another online marketplace website, VAT paid there
too.
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In Suggestions, Stacey_Love writes:
  In Suggestions, Stellar writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, mvfisker writes:
  Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten

Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.

I think they already had websites with timezones in 2004..

TLG had big plans with BrickLink but is choking now..

BrickLink is busy with USA sales taxes, we really should not expect multitasking
in their attempts to break things. They did say they will address the Brexit
issues before 5 February (they did not say which aeon though).

No, we should expect. After all we pay fees for this site. It was long time known
Brexit was coming, they should have been ready for it.

As almost everyone on this forum knows I am not Bricklink's biggest fan as
far as developmenet work goes however I think in this case it is fair to say
that the UK hasn't yet got it right and neither does the rest of the EU -
Just look at the below from a site we use regularly. (Don't forget we still
have VAT to look forward to

I recently promised more details on our Brexit solution, but I will just be frank
with you, that what you have described is exactly the case. We are waiting to
hear from our tax professionals as to how we need to proceed, and they are waiting
to hear from the authorities. It feels as if we are actually further from a solution
at this point than we were at the beginning of the year.

We have already pointed you links from the UK Gov website (authorities) explaining
things.

BL is still charging EU VAT in sales to UK, and that is without doubt illegal...
At least we sellers can disable it. But for sales under 135GBP B2C it is illegal
not to charge UK 20% VAT and remit it to UK HMRC.

Those are factually correct...

If the problem is if you are legally not sure if BL is an OMP or not, this maybe
needs a decision of just accepting it is a OMP even thought legally could be
defended is not (hypothetically).

Then decide to gather the UK VAT the same as US TAX, that would make BL a stronger
platform, because the other option means BL sellers will have to register by
themselves and most would not do it. This will mostly close the international
UK buying options.

And this would happen again and again as each country creates new laws to collect
VAT on buyers behalf. US and Norway since last year, UK since two months ago,
EU in four months from now...

Here is what other website puts on the invoices to UK if this helps:

20% UK Import VAT has been paid on this order via the online marketplace XXXXXXXXX
Ltd with VAT ID GBXXXXXXXXX. For more information see https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces

You already have the development to take a % fee from a PayPal or Stripe payment,
this would work the same for now, even simpler because it would be a fixed VAT
rate depending of the buyer country.
But best would be if offsite payments would be accepted too, and in those cases
the % VAT owed to BL from the seller paid by IBAN transfer that has no fees for
most, we understand this can come at a later date.

Russell, sincerely, what I mean is just one question...

What are your tax professionals expecting to hear from the authorities that it
is not already explained in the UK GOV website?

Thanks

I particularly like the uk.gov website regarding distance selling, this is there
advice."

The Brexit transition period has ended and new rules on distance selling now
apply. This page is currently out of date.



https://www.gov.uk/online-and-distance-selling-for-businesses

That is because many other sites link to the gov.uk pages. So rather than just
have dead links, they tell you it is now out of date, so you know to look up
the correct information on the site.
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In Suggestions, Stacey_Love writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, mvfisker writes:
  Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten

Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.

I think they already had websites with timezones in 2004..

TLG had big plans with BrickLink but is choking now..

BrickLink is busy with USA sales taxes, we really should not expect multitasking
in their attempts to break things. They did say they will address the Brexit
issues before 5 February (they did not say which aeon though).

No, we should expect. After all we pay fees for this site. It was long time known
Brexit was coming, they should have been ready for it.

As almost everyone on this forum knows I am not Bricklink's biggest fan as
far as developmenet work goes however I think in this case it is fair to say
that the UK hasn't yet got it right and neither does the rest of the EU -
Just look at the below from a site we use regularly. (Don't forget we still
have VAT to look forward to

I recently promised more details on our Brexit solution, but I will just be frank
with you, that what you have described is exactly the case. We are waiting to
hear from our tax professionals as to how we need to proceed, and they are waiting
to hear from the authorities. It feels as if we are actually further from a solution
at this point than we were at the beginning of the year.


And what are we supposed to do in the meantime ?. ......... Is the only option
to register for england vat, or exclude selling to england ?.

And can you fix the selling zones as england is defiantly not in the EU. Thanks.

There is no such thing as England VAT. Similarly you cannot exclude just England.
There is UK VAT, and you can exclude UK.
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In Suggestions, mvfisker writes:
  Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten

Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.
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In Suggestions, BrickEmAll writes:
  Hi,

I was wondering if it’s possible to let people see which country they’re from
(little flags). For instance: at the feedback page of a store. So new buyers
can see directly (flag) the feedback posts of fellow countrymen. It would be
more convincing for them to buy from other countries. And with this COVID it
will help to convince them that shipping is ok from other countries.


There are already national flags on feedback pages.
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In Colors, dcarmine writes:
  This has been bugging me for a while. Many years ago the color of the rendering
images was changed. Ever since, I have had trouble telling the difference between
some color images. I know others complained about it also. Because of this,
I make mistakes when pulling the right color parts.

I have no trouble telling the difference between any colors of real bricks or
any of the photo images. It is only the part renderings. Maybe if enough people
can't tell either, we can get it changed to something that is easier to see.

So, who can tell the difference between these two images? One is white and one
is LBG. They are screen shots of rendered parts without any editing. What say
you?

Donna

I sort by colour when picking so it isn't an issue.

I looked up both parts in white and neither matches the shades you have shown
here, so I don't know if something strange is going on.
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In Suggestions, brickglen writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

I think using the color numbers is a good idea, it would remove any ambiguity.
There could be an account option for each user to select which group of color
names is used to appear beside the number. So if someone wants to work with the
official lego names they could choose that option. Or the peeron names, bricklink
names - could even have options for other languages. It wouldn't be a large
table table to maintain.

Colour names are used in different ways. They are used as base part colours but
also used in descriptions as text. So any scheme would need to cover both uses.

Reusing names is a very bad idea especially if bricklink only announced it in
the forum, or only announced it once. People come and go over long timescales
and there would need to be constant reminders about changes such as reusing colour
names for different colours. We cannot have long time but infrequent users coming
back one day, buying a load of light gray parts and getting what they think is
LBG.
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  
  
Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

How about we rename Light Bluish Gray to Light Grey, and retain the "A" for the
older color:

Light Gray (1970s through 2003)
Light Grey (2004 though the present)

That would be hilarious! And terrible.

We could call retired colors 'colours' too. It would be a theme.

For consistency, retired colours would need to be 'colors' if American
spellings are used for the retired greys.

  The only Greys on BrickLink are Gandalf and Phoenix.

Don't forget Fenrir Greyback.
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In Suggestions, TheOneDavid writes:
  My number of Wanted Lists has expanded into chaos. I'm working on a big project
and I would really appreciate sublists (or superlists) in the Wanted List section.
What I mean is basically the possibility to have a new list inside of a Wanted
List. For example a regular Wanted List containing a load of items AND another
list called "extra parts". Or a Wanted List called "castle" containing my castle
related lists. I hope you get the idea. Please make this happen!!

Can't you just use multiple lists to do almost the same thing, with systematic
naming.

So for example call them

Castle Main Keep
Castle Main Keep extra parts
Castle Hideout cave
Castle Forest shelter
Castle Minifigs
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Good luck to him. Hopefully it is happy news that some new opportunity has come
for him, or just spending more time on another or different aspect of the hobby.
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In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  
 
Minifig No: incr001  Name: Elastigirl
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incr001 (Inv) Elastigirl
Minifigures: The Incredibles: Incredibles 2

Any reason this minifig is only named "Elastigirl" when she's wearing the
Mrs. Incredible outfit?

In the official description of the set, she is only referred to as Elastigirl.
I guess it is a bit like the various Iron Man suits, where they take the name
lego gives and not extra terms.
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In Catalog, Dixi78 writes:
  Hi,
I'm adding some counterparts (stickered parts) for the set 60183.
One of the items is a slope with Red and White Danger Stripes Thick Pattern.
See attached picture.

I found a similar item from another set in the catalog:
 
Part No: 85984pb091L  Name: Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3 with Red and White Danger Stripes Thick Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 60075
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85984pb091L Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3 with Red and White Danger Stripes Thick Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 60075
Parts: Slope, Decorated
It's almost the same, the difference is the white dot in de lower left corner.

Should I add 'my' part as a new part or can I consider these items the
same?
And if it's distinctive, what name should I give it?
I'd like to hear your opinion!

It looks like the same part to me, just not quite perfect alignment of the sticker
print when cut.
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In Colors, Teup writes:
  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, Teup writes:
  In Colors, tec writes:
  https://gameofbricks.eu/blogs/news/illegal-lego-building-techniques-to-beware-of-2020

What's wrong with #7? (or #8, or #9?)

Nothing.  The post is an accumulation of building techniques, some of them illegal,
some of them flimsy, some of them totally legal.

"The issue with this is that there will be great strain placed on the pieces
since they are not meant to be combined this way."


Apparently, you're not supposed to make a roof out of cheese slopes. Who
knew

Putting a 1x1 cheese slope on any stud is enough to crack it. Sometimes I think
looking at them is enough.
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In Catalog, Tiggy2 writes:
  Hi

Just wondering why a Minifigure I listed was deleted.

This is what it is...Dragon Knights - Knight 1, Light Gray Legs with Black Hips,
Black Chin-Guard, Quiver

This is my Comments: Excellent Condition, no splits or dents. Missing Quiver/Arrows.

Is it because I don’t have the Quiver? Can I list Minifigures if missing parts?

Thank you

The message would have said it is because it is incomplete.
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In Colors, SDF_Bricks writes:
  I have several parts 42022 in my collection (16 I think) in Dark Purple. I for
sure got them in a new set as I do not buy used stuff from eBay or else. The
puzzle (nagging question) is that such part does not show up at all in Dark Purple
in any Bricklink Set. In fact the color is totally non-existent.

Any clue what set such part comes from ?

Are you sure you have both the part number and colour identified correctly? If
so, have you bought individual parts, as it may be a non production part.
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In Suggestions, peregrinator writes:
  In Suggestions, TorontoLego writes:
  B) Make a rule that ALL minifigs MUST be complete as inventoried. Otherwise
they should be listed as their component parts.

This is the rule - all listed minifigs must be complete

It wasn't a decade ago though, when the post was made.
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In Catalog, calebfishn writes:
  In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
  Reaching out to those that have the new drowned Minifigure from Lego Minecraft.
Please contact me, I would like to discuss weights, pictures, dimensions, etc.
 
Minifig No: min088  Name: Drowned Zombie
* 
min088 (Inv) Drowned Zombie
Minifigures: Minecraft
Regards,
Theo - The_RealRedHex

I have a couple. But I have no idea how to weigh or measure the dimnensions of
these things. So probably not much help.

I imagine the dimensions and weight are going to be very similar to the other
Minecraft zombies, given the parts are the same aside from the print.
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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  Do you prefer to wait until the minifig is approved before filing the removals?

I think it would be best to wait until you've had some time to calm down
so that we can have a more rational discussion on this topic.

You asked for me to be constructive rather than destructive criticism, so I have
started adding missing figures to the catalogue using these published Figure
guidelines: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170

Figure classification can sometimes be difficult. Therefore, this section
further clarifies how BrickLink decides if an item is a figure or not.

Figures: Characters, fantasy creatures, humans, mechanical objects, and statues.
Additional clarifications listed below.
Characters - These typically have a face and a name, but always display sentient
behavior beyond that of a similar animal or object.


Nick Bluetooth and so on all come under character, don't they? Even Shimmel.

There is also this rule from the Adding Catalog Items Help Page:

Large part assemblies. - Large assemblies of parts that can be built into
figures, vehicles, or other structures often comprise a substantial portion of
a set and should not be added to the catalog. An exception has been made in the
past for some DUPLO vehicles representing fictional characters and some other
large assemblies with the Item Number prefix "spa" which were added as experiment.


If the entire set (or half the set) is used to build a figure / character, we
would be going against precedent to add it to the catalog. Adding it as a minifigure
is even a further stretch.

So a set such as

 
Set No: 269  Name: Kitchen
* 
269-1 (Inv) Kitchen
201 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Homemaker

which currently has one minifig should have four "figures" that would get put
into the category called minifigs, based on one figure that LEGO would normally
refer to as a minifigure and three other assemblies that BL refers to as figures,
even though LEGO would not call them minifigures due to the lack of minifigure
parts. Or do those also have too many parts to be considered as figures?
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In Inventories Requests, bje writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  Do you prefer to wait until the minifig is approved before filing the removals?

I think it would be best to wait until you've had some time to calm down
so that we can have a more rational discussion on this topic.

You asked for me to be constructive rather than destructive criticism, so I have
started adding missing figures to the catalogue using these published Figure
guidelines: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170

Figure classification can sometimes be difficult. Therefore, this section
further clarifies how BrickLink decides if an item is a figure or not.

Figures: Characters, fantasy creatures, humans, mechanical objects, and statues.
Additional clarifications listed below.
Characters - These typically have a face and a name, but always display sentient
behavior beyond that of a similar animal or object.


Nick Bluetooth and so on all come under character, don't they? Even Shimmel.

There is also this rule from the Adding Catalog Items Help Page:

Large part assemblies. - Large assemblies of parts that can be built into
figures, vehicles, or other structures often comprise a substantial portion of
a set and should not be added to the catalog. An exception has been made in the
past for some DUPLO vehicles representing fictional characters and some other
large assemblies with the Item Number prefix "spa" which were added as experiment.


If the entire set (or half the set) is used to build a figure / character, we
would be going against precedent to add it to the catalog. Adding it as a minifigure
is even a further stretch.

And exactly here is the problem when you and your catalogue team do not speak
with one voice or even have a comparative understanding of what is happening.
The page you refer to:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
was updated on 18 November 2020 by you, but you apparently did not check that
that the catalogue item minifig does not exist any longer. The information relating
to large part assemblies of figures and the thing previously known as a minifig
have been replaced by the new definition of a "figure"

The new definition of figures are on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
which has been in existence and confirmed as being active since 1 June 2020 and
which are the definitions used to add the figure items to the catalogue.

On that definition, there is no such thing as a minifig. There are only figures.
A figure can be any size part assembly, says so right there. There is no specific
limitation as to number of parts. There is no specific limitation as to what
percentage of the set must be made up to the figure. For an item to be a catalogue
item as a figure, the only standard that has to be met is that it must be an
autonomous entity. You and your catalogue team should perhaps get together and
actually fix the cross references and actually speak with one voice as to what
exactly is meant when catalogue items are discussed.

It has been pointed out ad nauseum that we still do not have a definition for
a complete minifigure (whatever that is, see above) either - so perhaps it would
be best to complete the definitions such that users are not confused.

And if these figures (note: figures) are in fact figures by definition, there
should be absolutely no reason not to add them as catalogue items.

This is exactly it. There are humans and humanoids that are not figures, whereas
trains with faces are figures. Lego Bricklink uses the terms minifigs and figures
apparently equivalently but not minifigures which is a term used by LEGO (and
BL staff).
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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  Do you prefer to wait until the minifig is approved before filing the removals?

I think it would be best to wait until you've had some time to calm down
so that we can have a more rational discussion on this topic.

You asked for me to be constructive rather than destructive criticism, so I have
started adding missing figures to the catalogue using these published Figure
guidelines: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170

Figure classification can sometimes be difficult. Therefore, this section
further clarifies how BrickLink decides if an item is a figure or not.

Figures: Characters, fantasy creatures, humans, mechanical objects, and statues.
Additional clarifications listed below.
Characters - These typically have a face and a name, but always display sentient
behavior beyond that of a similar animal or object.


Nick Bluetooth and so on all come under character, don't they? Even Shimmel.

There is also this rule from the Adding Catalog Items Help Page:

Large part assemblies. - Large assemblies of parts that can be built into
figures, vehicles, or other structures often comprise a substantial portion of
a set and should not be added to the catalog. An exception has been made in the
past for some DUPLO vehicles representing fictional characters and some other
large assemblies with the Item Number prefix "spa" which were added as experiment.


If the entire set (or half the set) is used to build a figure / character, we
would be going against precedent to add it to the catalog. Adding it as a minifigure
is even a further stretch.

So what is special about a Duplo assembly compared to any other assembly? Of
course there are also system based sets where cars are defined here as minifigs
or figures (but not minifigures). I really cannot understand why Duplo train
consisting of four parts is any different to a miniature figurine consisting
of approx 10 parts, yet one is a minifig.

There are even some sets with 3 or 4 parts only to build a miniature figure,
such as

 
Set No: 4040  Name: Nick, McDonald's Polybag #1
* 
4040-1 (Inv) Nick, McDonald's Polybag #1
3 Parts, 2002
Sets: Galidor

But they are not minifigs, whereas a car or a train is?

As I said, I just don't understand the reasoning, when defining a large train
as a minifigure is not a precedent or a stretch.
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  Do you prefer to wait until the minifig is approved before filing the removals?

I think it would be best to wait until you've had some time to calm down
so that we can have a more rational discussion on this topic.

You asked for me to be constructive rather than destructive criticism, so I have
started adding missing figures to the catalogue using these published Figure
guidelines: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170

Figure classification can sometimes be difficult. Therefore, this section
further clarifies how BrickLink decides if an item is a figure or not.

Figures: Characters, fantasy creatures, humans, mechanical objects, and statues.
Additional clarifications listed below.
Characters - These typically have a face and a name, but always display sentient
behavior beyond that of a similar animal or object.


Nick Bluetooth and so on all come under character, don't they? Even Shimmel.
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  I have requested the figure to be added.


Do you prefer to wait until the minifig is approved before filing the removals?
 
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8313  Name: Nick Bluetooth Deluxe
* 
8313-1 (Inv) Nick Bluetooth Deluxe
15 Parts, 2002
Sets: Galidor

* Delete 2 Part gal22 Dark Gray Galidor Limb Leg Nick, Bottom Section with Black Shoe
* Delete 2 Part x283c01 Dark Gray Galidor Limb Leg with Patch Pocket, Pin Socket and Dark Gray Pin
* Delete 2 Part gal16 Medium Violet Galidor Limb Arm Nick, Top Section
* Delete 1 Part gal21 Medium Violet Galidor Torso Nick with Dark Gray Pants
* Delete 1 Part gal10 Nougat Galidor Head Nick, with 1 Pin
* Delete 2 Part gal17 Nougat Galidor Limb Arm Nick, Bottom Section
* Delete 2 Part x281c02 Violet Galidor Wing with Turbine Cannon and Dark Gray Pin

Comments from Submitter:
Converting to figure

You're acting from your emotions and feelings here, not your reason or logic.
You would first need to add the figure to the catalog before these requests
could be approved.

I encourage you to work with us on making the situation better rather than sniping
at us from the sidelines.

I have requested the figure to be added.
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4040  Name: Nick, McDonald's Polybag #1
* 
4040-1 (Inv) Nick, McDonald's Polybag #1
3 Parts, 2002
Sets: Galidor

* Delete 1 Part mcnick3 Dark Gray Galidor, Promo Legs Nick (from McDonald's set)
* Delete 1 Part mcnick2 Medium Blue Galidor, Promo Torso and Arms Nick (from McDonald's set)
* Delete 1 Part mcnick1 Nougat Galidor, Promo Head Nick (from McDonald's set)

Comments from Submitter:
Figure
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8313  Name: Nick Bluetooth Deluxe
* 
8313-1 (Inv) Nick Bluetooth Deluxe
15 Parts, 2002
Sets: Galidor

* Delete 2 Part gal22 Dark Gray Galidor Limb Leg Nick, Bottom Section with Black Shoe
* Delete 2 Part x283c01 Dark Gray Galidor Limb Leg with Patch Pocket, Pin Socket and Dark Gray Pin
* Delete 2 Part gal16 Medium Violet Galidor Limb Arm Nick, Top Section
* Delete 1 Part gal21 Medium Violet Galidor Torso Nick with Dark Gray Pants
* Delete 1 Part gal10 Nougat Galidor Head Nick, with 1 Pin
* Delete 2 Part gal17 Nougat Galidor Limb Arm Nick, Bottom Section
* Delete 2 Part x281c02 Violet Galidor Wing with Turbine Cannon and Dark Gray Pin

Comments from Submitter:
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  How is this type of minifigure to be handled?

You're welcome to offer solutions to the problems you point out.

My solution would be that it is not a figure, but the guidelines say it is for
anyone that wants to change it.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.

It is not possible to make everyone happy.

As I said here:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1246481

"Ideally, we would hold off on these changes until the inventory system was
corrected and we could move all figures to counterparts. But people have been
asking for these figures to be considered figures for years and years, so I don't
see that it would really hurt anything to do it now."


I get your objections and I agree with them, to some degree. The addition of
the additional Thomas the Tank figures was not part of msSquirrel's original
request.


How is this type of minifigure to be handled?

 
Set No: 21148  Name: Minecraft Steve BigFig with Parrot
* 
21148-1 (Inv) Minecraft Steve BigFig with Parrot
159 Parts, 2019
Sets: Minecraft: BigFig Series 1

Presumably the minifigure inventory will contain the parts for the body/head/hair/legs/arms/hands
but exclude the axe, even though it is built into the minifigure's hand before
the figure is completed?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.

It is not possible to make everyone happy.

As I said here:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1246481

"Ideally, we would hold off on these changes until the inventory system was
corrected and we could move all figures to counterparts. But people have been
asking for these figures to be considered figures for years and years, so I don't
see that it would really hurt anything to do it now."


I get your objections and I agree with them, to some degree. The addition of
the additional Thomas the Tank figures was not part of msSquirrel's original
request.

I just find it ridiculous that anyone, but especially a company owned by LEGO
themselves, would refer to a DUPLO train as a minifigure. LEGO used to appear
to be so protective and careful with their use of the word minifigure previously
to not apply to things like droids, Unikitty, skeletons, and so on but I guess
if they are supporting these changes then they must be OK with it.
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Similarly, nearly all the brickheadz are brick built characters

 
Set No: 41585  Name: Batman
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41585-1 (Inv) Batman
91 Parts, 2017
Sets: BrickHeadz: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie

so the relevant assemblies should be moved to minifigures.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

Move to minifigure:

 
Part No: spa0009  Name: Sparkks - Set 70316
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spa0009 (Inv) Sparkks - Set 70316
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0010  Name: Groot - Set 76020
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spa0010 (Inv) Groot - Set 76020
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0011  Name: Ares - Set 76075
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spa0011 (Inv) Ares - Set 76075
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0012  Name: Giant-Man - Set 76051
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spa0012 (Inv) Giant-Man - Set 76051
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0013  Name: The Sentinel - Set 76022
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spa0013 (Inv) The Sentinel - Set 76022
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0015  Name: Sarlacc - Set 6210 - Brick Built
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spa0015 (Inv) Sarlacc - Set 6210 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0016  Name: Sarlacc - Set 9496 - Brick Built
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spa0016 (Inv) Sarlacc - Set 9496 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0017  Name: Sarlacc - Set 75174 - Brick Built
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spa0017 (Inv) Sarlacc - Set 75174 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0018  Name: DLC-13 Mining Droid - Set 9494
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spa0018 (Inv) DLC-13 Mining Droid - Set 9494
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0019  Name: Ent / Treebeard - Set 10237
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spa0019 (Inv) Ent / Treebeard - Set 10237
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0020  Name: Fenris Wolf - Set 76084 - Brick Built
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spa0020 (Inv) Fenris Wolf - Set 76084 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0021  Name: Abilisk - Set 76081 - Brick Built
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spa0021 (Inv) Abilisk - Set 76081 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0032  Name: Snow Monster, Frozen (Marshmallow) - Brick Built
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spa0032 (Inv) Snow Monster, Frozen (Marshmallow) - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0033  Name: Giant Stone Warrior - Set 70669
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spa0033 (Inv) Giant Stone Warrior - Set 70669
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0034  Name: Steppenwolf - Set 76087
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spa0034 (Inv) Steppenwolf - Set 76087
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0044  Name: Grawp - Set 75967 - Brick Built
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spa0044 (Inv) Grawp - Set 75967 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

 
Set No: 4530  Name: The Hulk
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4530-1 (Inv) The Hulk
39 Parts, 2012
Sets: Super Heroes: Buildable Figures: Avengers

The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

Now these are minifigures:
 
Minifig No: tms06  Name: Duplo Thomas
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tms06 (Inv) Duplo Thomas
Minifigures: DUPLO: DUPLO, Train: Thomas & Friends

Shouldn't these parts and similar

[p=52053]

be moved into a new category: Parts Duplo Minifigure Modified head


Or get rid of the minifigures category completely by renaming it, then have a
minifigures category inside that so that the word minifigures corresponds to
what LEGO and most LEGO fans call minifigures, figures assembled from minifigure
parts.
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ere were a couple of the collectors series that had a small printed number
  
  on the instructions that was different for each set.

BrickLink did not differentiate between them.

Here's an example online:

https://jaysbrickblog.com/reviews/review-lego-minifigures-series-14-monsters/

See the 16 in the white circle on the upper corner on the back of the instructions.

Jen

Thanks a lot Jen!
I never noticed it!

I seem to remember as well that the number on the back did not match the number
of the figure. That is, that not all Kings had a number 1 leaflet and so on.
I guess it was something to do with the extra printed code on the back of the
leaflet rather than the figure it was included with.
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In Catalog, samsam2 writes:
  I'm wondering if these are the same set? The way they are listed seems strange
 
Set No: 1944  Name: Basic Set with Storage Case
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1944-1 (Inv) Basic Set with Storage Case
1 Set, 1 Gear, 1983
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set
 
Set No: 1944  Name: Universal Building Set
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1944-2 (Inv) Universal Building Set
133 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1983
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set
If one is a set containing a sub-set, shouldn't there
be just one set of instructions and one box?

I don't have it. But it seems the set was sold with a cardboard box, and
also with the plastic storage box (gear) hence the difference.
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  
 
Part No: 35179pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Combo, Hair and Beard with Top Hat Large with Band with Goggles with Glasses Pattern
* 
35179pb01 Minifigure, Hair Combo, Hair and Beard with Top Hat Large with Band with Goggles with Glasses Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 52686pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Combo, Hair with Hat, 2 Braids over Shoulders with Molded Bright Light Yellow Beanie Pattern
* 
52686pb01 Minifigure, Hair Combo, Hair with Hat, 2 Braids over Shoulders with Molded Bright Light Yellow Beanie Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair

And this outlines the second problem: Colour convention. This has to be made
consistent as well. I think I'd prefer the second one, as I'd say hair
colour is intuitively the more logical variable part than the headgear. Headgears
like cook's or police hats typically don't vary much in colour, so
the variation in the hair is more likely.

As for catagorisation, I'd prefer them in Minifig,Hair as it is less than
half the size of Headgear, but it's just my vote.

Me too. I'd prefer anything with hair goes into the hair category.

I would not want pieces like this where there is moulding to indicate an accessory/non-hair
to be moved out of hair:
 
Part No: 28432pb02  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Wavy with Ponytail with Gold Band Pattern
* 
28432pb02 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Wavy with Ponytail with Gold Band Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 24797pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long with Center Part and Black Ribbon Tied in Bow Pattern (Alice)
* 
24797pb01 Minifigure, Hair Female Long with Center Part and Black Ribbon Tied in Bow Pattern (Alice)
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 29639pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long with Parted Bangs, Partly Braided in Back with Yellow Elf Ears and Silver Flower Pattern
* 
29639pb01 Minifigure, Hair Female Long with Parted Bangs, Partly Braided in Back with Yellow Elf Ears and Silver Flower Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 20592pb02  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length Flipped Ends, Short Bangs, with Black Cat Ears Pattern
* 
20592pb02 Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length Flipped Ends, Short Bangs, with Black Cat Ears Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 28798pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails High Bouncy, Hole on Top with Black Hair on Left Side and Black Tie on Right Side Pattern
* 
28798pb01 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails High Bouncy, Hole on Top with Black Hair on Left Side and Black Tie on Right Side Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair

And in some cases, the accessory is the same colour as the hair:
 
Part No: 98377  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female with Spiked Tiara (Lady Liberty) - Flexible Rubber
* 
98377 Minifigure, Hair Female with Spiked Tiara (Lady Liberty) - Flexible Rubber
Parts: Minifigure, Hair

Especially if parts like this, where there is just print and no moulding, remained
in hair:
 
Part No: 85974pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length with Part over Right Shoulder and Pink Flower Pattern on Left Side
* 
85974pb01 Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length with Part over Right Shoulder and Pink Flower Pattern on Left Side
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 85974pb03  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length with Part over Right Shoulder and Green Plant Leaves Pattern
* 
85974pb03 Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length with Part over Right Shoulder and Green Plant Leaves Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 85974pb04  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length with Part over Right Shoulder and Medium Lavender Starfish and Lime Seaweed Pattern
* 
85974pb04 Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length with Part over Right Shoulder and Medium Lavender Starfish and Lime Seaweed Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 95328pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length, Smooth with Bangs and Gold Tiara Pattern (Egyptian Queen)
* 
95328pb01 Minifigure, Hair Female Mid-Length, Smooth with Bangs and Gold Tiara Pattern (Egyptian Queen)
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 93217pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female with Top Knot Bun and Red and Pink Flowers Pattern
* 
93217pb01 Minifigure, Hair Female with Top Knot Bun and Red and Pink Flowers Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair


There are quite a few hairstyles where there is a plain coloured hairpiece, but
also with a version with coloured accessory such as:
 
Part No: 20596  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails High, Long Bangs, Hole on Top
* 
20596 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails High, Long Bangs, Hole on Top
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 20596pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails High, Long Bangs, Hole on Top with Dark Green Hair Ties Pattern
* 
20596pb01 Minifigure, Hair Female Pigtails High, Long Bangs, Hole on Top with Dark Green Hair Ties Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair

 
Part No: 17347  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Ponytail Long Straight with Holder
* 
17347 Minifigure, Hair Female Ponytail Long Straight with Holder
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 17347pb001  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Ponytail Long Straight with Gold Holder Pattern
* 
17347pb001 Minifigure, Hair Female Ponytail Long Straight with Gold Holder Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair

They are surely still hair even though there is a non-hair accessory. It cannot
be down to how big the accessory is before something goes in hair or headgear,
as there will be contradictions.

And there are parts like this, that are not all hair but body part and not accessory:

 
Part No: 12893pb02  Name: Minifigure, Hair Male Bald Top with Dark Bluish Gray Short Hair Pattern
* 
12893pb02 Minifigure, Hair Male Bald Top with Dark Bluish Gray Short Hair Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 10066pb03  Name: Minifigure, Hair Long and Combed Back with Medium Nougat Pointed Ears Pattern
* 
10066pb03 Minifigure, Hair Long and Combed Back with Medium Nougat Pointed Ears Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair
 
Part No: 93230pb01  Name: Minifigure, Hair Swept Back with Pointed Yellow (Elf) Ears Pattern
* 
93230pb01 Minifigure, Hair Swept Back with Pointed Yellow (Elf) Ears Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Hair

Colour is problematic. Ideally it would be the colour of the hair as the part
colour, but there are pieces like the bald guy head above where the part is light
nougat and the hair painted on.
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The other good thing you have done is check them on receipt and not put them
away for a while.
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  Question: How do most people here know these are fakes? Unless you
look carefully for the LEGO logos, which you can't do from most auction pics,
how do you tell fakes from real?


Ask the direct question "Are these genuine LEGO?". If the seller/auctioneer says
yes, then they have to be genuine LEGO or you have a valid complaint. If they
say they are unsure or they have not checked every piece or do not reply, chances
are they are not genuine LEGO.
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In Catalog, G3NU5 writes:
  I have unfortunately purchased an auction of many Ninjago minifigs which appear
to be very good fakes. Aside from missing LEGO logos, these are for the most
part look exactly the same.

I am not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I would like to post
pictures for awareness and education so others don't run into this issue.

If someone could suggest where a good place (this forum or otherwise) to put
up pictures of these fakes, I would appreciate it.

Here are some examples:

Most people here know there are fakes, and to avoid auctions where items are
not described as LEGO but have words like compatible in.

Were these described as LEGO? If so, complain.
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  (what is an oar?)

An oar is something you use to propel a boat when rowing. It is attached to the
boat, though an oarlock or rowlock. Paddles are different, they are not attached
to the boat and are used to paddle rather than row a boat.

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