Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | WoutR  | | Posted: | May 14, 2020 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: Pink, light pink and paradisa pink | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | I don't know what the current status is of the planned catalog color project,
but in preparation here is a photo of some pink parts.
The parts on the left are LEGO Light Reddish Violet. The parts on the
right are LEGO Rose. Both are called pink on BrickLink.
Rose is commonly called "Paradisa Pink" and is often sold as "Light Pink" on
BrickLink.
I am not sure if BrickLink's Light Pink actually exist. I suspect many are
misidentified.
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One of the solutions is to simply start using Light Pink for the early pink color.
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Then we need to check the colors of the few parts that remain.
| | Some sellers are already doing this.
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In my opinion, that supports the need to separate these. Also, I really dislike
grouping colors when the same part is available in both colors. Then, for example,
as a buyer you never know which version you will get.
| | However, the bigger problem is fitting the new color into our inventory system.
It would be great if the first two set years of Paradisa (1992-1993) the sets
only contained the early pink. But later copies of even the earliest Paradisa
sets have been found with the new pink.
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As a guideline:
Rose 1992-1997
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/14776964407/
Light Reddish Violet 1997-2006
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/14931522786/
(after that replaced by Bright Pink)
| | So then we would be stuck with the same situation as the 2003-2004 color changes,
where large parts of an inventory are labeled color alternates. This presents
a very practical problem in that mold variants would compete for space in the
inventory. We give preference to mold variant over minor color variant, but it's
a choice no Inv Admin wants to make.
BrickLink did a survey of these colors in Brickworld Chicago in 2018. It was
called the Pink Challenge and participants were asked simply to sort by color
a dozen pink colored parts in a tray. These included the modern Bright Pink.
Almost everyone clearly distinguished the early pink color, though there was
little consensus on what to call it. I think we ended up with about 50 different
name suggestions by the end of the event.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 14, 2020 13:06 | | Subject: | Re: Pink, light pink and paradisa pink | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, StormChaser writes:
| | In Colors, Miro78 writes:
It won't be on the list you linked to because that would require coding change
to the site itself and we don't have that capability. However, we might
look at adding it to one of those two Help pages.
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I'll try to update my list soon
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=132381
The help pages need a lot of work.
Ryan / Pikachu3 has a lot of great photos and should be able to make comparison
photos of color families under constant light conditions also. Ryan and I both
have a collection that includes almost all known colors, but Ryan's photos
are better.
We also need a catalog guideline on when it is OK to group to known LEGO colors
under one Bricklink color name. Currently, that is common practice.
I think that we should not do that if
- parts are released in both colors;
- if one has colored material (solid/pearl/...) and the other has a surface coating
(chrome/metallic/...)
- the colors look very different (which might be subjective).
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 14, 2020 11:42 | | Subject: | Re: Pink, light pink and paradisa pink | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, StormChaser writes:
| | It would probably be best to update all the existing catalog guidelines before
doing much of anything else major and that's what we're working on.
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Agreed. Don't do everything at once. I assume that this forum thread will
still be available when we get to that project.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 14, 2020 11:24 | | Subject: | Re: Pink, light pink and paradisa pink | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Adjour writes:
| | In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | I don't know what the current status is of the planned catalog color project,
but in preparation here is a photo of some pink parts.
The parts on the left are LEGO Light Reddish Violet. The parts on the
right are LEGO Rose. Both are called pink on BrickLink.
Rose is commonly called "Paradisa Pink" and is often sold as "Light Pink" on
BrickLink.
I am not sure if BrickLink's Light Pink actually exist. I suspect many are
misidentified.
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The pink on the right in that photo looks uv damaged to me. Particularly the
fence. I know paradisa pink gets discolored very easily. Which I'm sure adds
to the problem.
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I also have yellowed Paradisa parts. Those are even more yellow.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 14, 2020 06:36 | | Subject: | Pink, light pink and paradisa pink | | Viewed: | 170 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| I don't know what the current status is of the planned catalog color project,
but in preparation here is a photo of some pink parts.
The parts on the left are LEGO Light Reddish Violet. The parts on the
right are LEGO Rose. Both are called pink on BrickLink.
Rose is commonly called "Paradisa Pink" and is often sold as "Light Pink" on
BrickLink.
I am not sure if BrickLink's Light Pink actually exist. I suspect many are
misidentified.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 11, 2020 14:33 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, randyf writes:
| | In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | In Colors, StormChaser writes:
| | I believe these are all complete now, pending the inventory change requests being
approved.
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Thank you!
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It's all done. Dark Nougat is officially in the catalog everywhere it was
supposed to be. One more color issue solved. 
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Nice 
I like it when issues like this one are solved:
Two different parts should have two different catalog entries.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 11, 2020 06:24 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, StormChaser writes:
| | I believe these are all complete now, pending the inventory change requests being
approved.
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Thank you!
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 6, 2020 04:45 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
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Before LEGO bought BrickLink I would have said no...
But I can see a point in using Studio (especially now LDD is not supported),
and linking that to a wanted list...
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Danger, danger.
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I agree with that. It would have to be a very limited set of functions... And
there is always the risk that we atract more children pretending to be adults.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:26 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| | Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
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Before LEGO bought BrickLink I would have said no...
But I can see a point in using Studio (especially now LDD is not supported),
and linking that to a wanted list...
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 3, 2020 12:30 | | Subject: | Re: Ants | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I do not see a designID on the multicolored ants.
[p=62575cx1]
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 3, 2020 12:29 | | Subject: | Re: Ants | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| | Except for the coloring, is there any difference between [p=62575cx1] and ?
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Without having both parts to examine, I cannot say. But any differences would
likely be extremely minor.
| | Also, how do we go about numbering in such a case in general?
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We haven't updated this page yet, but everything about item numbering is
here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
| | 62575 is the LEGO
design number for the marbled version, 23714 for the plain version. Is the former
really seen as an assembly (cx1)?
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No, this is clearly not an assembly. It was renumbered to maintain compatibility
with Peeron. This happened in 2010 before Peeron died.
| | I would suggest 62575cx1 renumbered to 23714pb01 and 62575 listed as an alternative
number. Before making such a request, I'd like to be sure about any differences
and guide lines.
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I think this is a reasonable request and I see no reason why it should not be
accommodated. If no one objects within the next day or so I'll make it happen.
| | I know the catalog team has different priorities right now
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I am not a spokesperson for the team, but I think it would be fair to say that
our priority is always the catalog and any issues that affect it.
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https://brickset.com/parts/design-62575
https://brickset.com/parts/design-23714
I would suggest that we use the designID that LEGO uses as the main partnumber.
23714 for the plain version,
62575* for the multicolored version with 23714pb* as an alternate,
and a catalog relationship between them.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 24, 2020 10:22 | | Subject: | Re: Is this Pearl Light Gold? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | In Colors, Cob writes:
| | In Colors, Bricks_NW_UK writes:
| | In Colors, Cob writes:
| | In Colors, Bricks_NW_UK writes:
| | Good day one and all.
I am trying to identify this colour.
The ones at the bottom are Pearl Gold, are the ones above Pearl Light Gold. I
just don’t recognise the colour
Thanks
Steve
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http://v4ei.com/brickref/golds.php
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Thanks all for your help. Appreciated as always.
At least I can get my head around it now
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Another example was created.
http://v4ei.com/brickref/pearl-golds.php
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Nice. It shows the different shades clearly.
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In my opinion, the best solution would be to have images like that in the help
section.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 24, 2020 10:22 | | Subject: | Re: Is this Pearl Light Gold? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Cob writes:
| | In Colors, Bricks_NW_UK writes:
| | In Colors, Cob writes:
| | In Colors, Bricks_NW_UK writes:
| | Good day one and all.
I am trying to identify this colour.
The ones at the bottom are Pearl Gold, are the ones above Pearl Light Gold. I
just don’t recognise the colour
Thanks
Steve
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http://v4ei.com/brickref/golds.php
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Thanks all for your help. Appreciated as always.
At least I can get my head around it now
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Another example was created.
http://v4ei.com/brickref/pearl-golds.php
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Nice. It shows the different shades clearly.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 24, 2020 08:12 | | Subject: | Re: Category Definitions Discussion | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| | I don't see the definition of Plate, Modified and Tile, Modified helping
to choose between them for parts like .
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From the present definition of Tile, none of those would be Tile, Modified.
Tile - For items nearly identical to plates for which all corners are square
and the tops are smooth, meaning without studs or other protuberances.
So they would all have to move to Plate, Modified.
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I agree. If there are studs on top, then it is a "Plate, modified". If there
are no studs on top, then it is a "Tile, modified".
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 23, 2020 16:16 | | Subject: | Re: Is this Pearl Light Gold? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Brick.Door writes:
| | There doesn't seem to be a range of shades - they are either dark or light.
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There are (at lest) three shades:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111441268@N03/15418373687/in/album-72157646588122344/
| | I would be in favor of creating a new color in Bricklink to list the dark ones.
They could be an alternate item in inventories where they have been included.
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I would vote against that.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 20, 2020 17:26 | | Subject: | Re: Move Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | I can probably provide at least 20 variations of these molded lines on the inside
of 2x4 bricks.
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I looked through your Flickr photo collection and I was most impressed. I've
updated the additional note.
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Thank you. It is a work in progress (all filler brick donations are welcome )
| | | | As a collector of 2x4 bricks, I think that these mold details
are to small and to variable to mention in our catalog.
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In another post you mention certain specifics, such as functionality or appearance,
as criteria for having separate catalog entries. The problem is that BrickLink
has no written criteria for separate catalog entries. We've just
been kinda winging it for 20 years.
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I think that there are 4 criteria
1) Functional difference.
2) Difference in appearance
3) Time period
4) Very minor details, just to be "complete".
The functional difference should be the MAIN criterium for catalog entries, but
possibly not the only one.
(1) If we look at the functional difference, then for 2x4 bricks we have
- slotted bricks (bslot04*)
- hollow bricks bhol04
- bricks with inner tubes (3001old, 3001).
(2) The difference in appearance is only useful for transparent 2x4 bricks. On
the outside, they are the same. Here, small differences in the inner wall become
visible.
For some parts, this difference can be more important than for others. It will
be challenging to write a good definition for that...
(3) The "bricks with inner tubes" have been in use since 1958. Selling all under
one catalog entry is a problem for people trying to restore old sets. As a collector,
I would not want to buy a 1970 set with 2020 bricks in it. We cannot be very
exact in dating bricks, but with work like my Flickr page we can get pretty close.
The split between 3001old (since 1958) and 3001 (since 1980) is a start to accommodate
buyers here. Some sellers provide additional details in the item description.
Additional images showing such changes over time could help buyers and sellers
looking to complete sets.
For example, see the additional image for 2547. That is nearly perfect. There
is no functional difference, no visual difference and no huge time gap, so there
is no separate catalog entry. The image shows that there are different versions
so buyers and sellers do not have to be confused. The only thing that could make
it better is if we knew the year these part versions were introduced.
(4) Wanting to be complete and list every minor mold variation would mean that
we could have a catalog note about most of the individual molds. Looking at the
2x4 bricks we can see that molds are made a few at a time, and there are minor
changes when the next batch is made. I want to see those in my collection, but
I do not think that any sensible LEGO builder or collector would care.
| | Here's an example of that (look at the comparison image):
How much work was put into this non-functional, non-appearance-affecting part
split by everyone involved? And this is just one part. There are more.
So what I expect to see change in 2020: the addition of written guidelines specifying
exactly how part variants are handled. The current justification for our overall
strategy with part variants is that we're serving collectors and purists
with the way we do things.
But . . . we're not. And not only are we failing them rather miserably,
but we're making buyers, sellers, contributors, and administrators go to
sometimes extraordinary lengths to serve a system that doesn't serve anyone
well. People are buying sealed sets and dismantling them to determine a single
part variant, not realizing the whole set box is probably filled with variants.
That, as I've said before, is unsustainable and irrational. I don't
claim to have a solution yet, but I am giving it thought and I always appreciate
your knowledgeable input. I'm not against part variants or having separate
entries for them, but we've been doing it wrongly for a long time.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 20, 2020 07:22 | | Subject: | Re: Move Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| | Hi Wouter,
Nice to hear from you, hope you are keeping safe an well.
I agree, there are too many variations to list, it would be nice but it would
overwhelm the catalogue.
I also suspect that if we looked at many more parts, the same would apply.
The 3001old with 3001 underneath would be an interesting oddity in the catalogue,
just to name one.
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That is certainly an oddity
The main reason to include it in the catalog is so I can find more!
(If people find any, let me know!)
It could be nice to include the version with split tubes. But only for people
looking for bricks from that specific time period, as far as I know there is
no functional difference.
Personally, I think that I would not include 3001oldf1 or 3001f1 in the catalog.
I use them now we have them, and there is a visual difference that some people
might care about because they are used for transparent parts. Solid color parts
have the same inner surfaces, but we simply use 3001old or 3001 for those because
you can't see them.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 20, 2020 07:12 | | Subject: | Re: Move Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I just added comparison photos and additional notes for the following part variants
I've recently discovered. All of these variants were undocumented on BrickLink
until today:
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I can probably provide at least 20 variations of these molded lines on the inside
of 2x4 bricks. As a collector of 2x4 bricks, I think that these mold details
are to small and to variable to mention in our catalog.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111441268@N03/albums/72157648936541745
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Here is a quick image of mold lines inside the 3001 bricks. These inner mold
lines can occur in several different combinations, and can even change within
the same mold over time as a result of mold revisions/maintenance.
The "darker areas" indicate "frosting".
[p=3001f1]
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 20, 2020 06:41 | | Subject: | Re: Move Variants Discovered | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I just added comparison photos and additional notes for the following part variants
I've recently discovered. All of these variants were undocumented on BrickLink
until today:
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I can probably provide at least 20 variations of these molded lines on the inside
of 2x4 bricks. As a collector of 2x4 bricks, I think that these mold details
are to small and to variable to mention in our catalog.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111441268@N03/albums/72157648936541745
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2020 17:50 | | Subject: | Re: 3024 plate 1x1 metallic gold : does it exist? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Autour writes:
| | Does 3024 plate 1x1 exist in Metallic Gold?
I do have some examples in front of me (genuine parts) that don't look at
all as Pearl Gold but do look as Metallic Gold. But the latter is not featured
as a known colour.
Can someone else confirm the existence of 3024 in Metallic Gold?
And if so, please add it to the catlogue as a known colour!
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Pearl Gold a Lego color that has the greatest shift or inconsistency I've
seen.
The part that you think might be Metallic Gold, is within the Pearl Gold range
of variances. Metallic Gold is a completely different animal all together.
But I'm far from an expert in Lego colors, so maybe wait to read other replies...
-Cory
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You are correct.
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About which? Me being "far from an expert" or the other points
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Maybe about all the points
You are correct that both are Pearl Gold.
Metallic gold is a surface coating.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 6, 2020 17:32 | | Subject: | Re: 3024 plate 1x1 metallic gold : does it exist? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Autour writes:
| | Does 3024 plate 1x1 exist in Metallic Gold?
I do have some examples in front of me (genuine parts) that don't look at
all as Pearl Gold but do look as Metallic Gold. But the latter is not featured
as a known colour.
Can someone else confirm the existence of 3024 in Metallic Gold?
And if so, please add it to the catlogue as a known colour!
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Pearl Gold a Lego color that has the greatest shift or inconsistency I've
seen.
The part that you think might be Metallic Gold, is within the Pearl Gold range
of variances. Metallic Gold is a completely different animal all together.
But I'm far from an expert in Lego colors, so maybe wait to read other replies...
-Cory
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You are correct.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2020 06:03 | | Subject: | Re: Clips Ahoy, part three. | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StarBrick writes:
| | In Catalog, WoutR writes:
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Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.
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I think that was not the real reason, but hey, I can't read minds (yet...)
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I hope it is not.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 22, 2020 05:16 | | Subject: | Re: Clips Ahoy, part three. | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?
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With all due respect, it's none of your business.
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As people, we can be interested. But I have to agree. It is none of our businesses
and not Bricklink's businesses either. What links he places on his own, external
website is his choice.
Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2020 08:37 | | Subject: | Re: Just a little something to BRIGHTEN your day | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, mfav writes:
| | I know it doesn't count for much, but, yeah. I agree. Opal.
Anything to lessen the color naming confusion is good.
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I agree. Opal.
I did not protest, but the Satin never made sense to me.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 15, 2020 11:10 | | Subject: | Re: Disassembling Bionicle | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | How difficult is it to disassemble these two parts once they're attached
together? Do you need tools or do they come apart relatively easily?
Thanks in advance for assistance. And then probably after, too.
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Disassembling takes more force than we are used to in LEGO.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 2, 2020 14:05 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, BLUSER13161 writes:
| | In Colors, axaday writes:
| | While I believe you, I would only use your list as a guide for sets to buy in
order to confirm. There isn't a drop down for "I believe WoutR" on a catalog
request.
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I understand wanting to confirm from a set and it's always good to do. But
I will say that WoutR is one of a handful of BrickLink members who have demonstrated
a comprehensive understanding of LEGO colors. No one is perfect; but if WoutR
says something about color, then it's probably true.
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Unless I did not sleep and get confused about Harry Potter theme minifigures
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 2, 2020 12:23 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | In Colors, Admin_Russell writes:
| | No changes to inventories are necessary except to give Dark Nougat a place in the system.
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The required catalog changes would be:
Part 3901
Part color code: update 4163862
Small Images: Choose one of the images in Fabuland Brown or Earth Orange and
delete the other.
Part 30374
Part color code: update 4159161
Small Images: Choose one of the images in Fabuland Brown, Earth Orange or Dark
Orange and delete the rest.
Part 30374px1
Remove additional note.
Update small image color from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4706-1
Change part 30374px1 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat (regular and extra)
Inventory 4730-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4752-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4756-1
Change part 30374 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4758-1
Change part 30374 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 10132-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory minifigure hp023 (used in set 4728-1 and HPG02-1)
Change part 3901 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
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I don't have time to request these catalog changes now.
I would appreciate it if anyone could help.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 2, 2020 12:11 | | Subject: | Re: Congrats on the PC "win" | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, runner.caller writes:
| | Seeing as the vast majority of parts in the light flesh color are used for heads
from licensed themes portraying a character, actress, or actor with light flesh
skin tone, I fail to see the problem.
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The nougat/flesh color was introduced about 20 years before it was used in minifigures.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 2, 2020 12:02 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Turez writes:
| | In Colors, randyf writes:
| | In Colors, bje writes:
| | Which exact parts from which exact sets should be so relisted please? This is
not la-la land - I do not sell something I perchance have - I either have it
or I don't. I somehow cannot find an inventory which has been corrected.
Actually, just tell me which colour my and should be sold as
since I have nothing to compare them to. Thank you.
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Jean -
Check the message up the thread from Wouter:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1178165
Those are the pieces that are known at this time to have been made in the LEGO
color known as "Dark Nougat". It is a *very* rare color.
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Ryan Howerter's reference photo shows three more parts, but I don't believe
those were included in any set.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/14890173099/in/album-72157649729890049/
Regards,
Jonas
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Several Q-elements (that were never released in sets) are known.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2020 19:46 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | In Colors, axaday writes:
| | | | I saved this list from a discussion about the color long ago.
There could be a few more.
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My current best guess is that Ron Weasley and the parts in 7411 are really Earth
Orange. But I would feel better if I could triangulate with some other colors.
I don't know if I can be confident that my 1997 bread is really Earth Orange.
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I can confirm that the Weasley hair is not Earth Orange.
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Wait... I am getting confused with Vernon Dursley now. I'll get back to this
when it is not way past my bedtime
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Look at the hair parts for sale. There are Earth Orange parts with notes about
the color difference. Also, there are Fabuland brown and Fabuland Orange parts
for sale. Currently, sellers note the difference and are finding different ways
to deal with that.
I don't know about 7411.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2020 19:41 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, axaday writes:
| | | | I saved this list from a discussion about the color long ago.
There could be a few more.
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My current best guess is that Ron Weasley and the parts in 7411 are really Earth
Orange. But I would feel better if I could triangulate with some other colors.
I don't know if I can be confident that my 1997 bread is really Earth Orange.
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I can confirm that the Weasley hair is not Earth Orange.
Look at the hair parts for sale. There are Earth Orange parts with notes about
the color difference. Also, there are Fabuland brown and Fabuland Orange parts
for sale. Currently, sellers note the difference and are finding different ways
to deal with that.
I don't know about 7411.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2020 19:33 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, axaday writes:
| | In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | In Colors, Admin_Russell writes:
| | No changes to inventories are necessary except to give Dark Nougat a place in the system.
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The required catalog changes would be:
Part 3901
Part color code: update 4163862
Small Images: Choose one of the images in Fabuland Brown or Earth Orange and
delete the other.
Part 30374
Part color code: update 4159161
Small Images: Choose one of the images in Fabuland Brown, Earth Orange or Dark
Orange and delete the rest.
Part 30374px1
Remove additional note.
Update small image color from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4706-1
Change part 30374px1 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat (regular and extra)
Inventory 4730-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4752-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4756-1
Change part 30374 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4758-1
Change part 30374 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 10132-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory minifigure hp023 (used in set 4728-1 and HPG02-1)
Change part 3901 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
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So is the color only used in a hair and a bar?
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I saved this list from a discussion about the color long ago.
There could be a few more.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2020 19:24 | | Subject: | Re: Nougat is the new Flesh | | Viewed: | 133 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Admin_Russell writes:
| | No changes to inventories are necessary except to give Dark Nougat a place in the system.
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The required catalog changes would be:
Part 3901
Part color code: update 4163862
Small Images: Choose one of the images in Fabuland Brown or Earth Orange and
delete the other.
Part 30374
Part color code: update 4159161
Small Images: Choose one of the images in Fabuland Brown, Earth Orange or Dark
Orange and delete the rest.
Part 30374px1
Remove additional note.
Update small image color from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4706-1
Change part 30374px1 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat (regular and extra)
Inventory 4730-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4752-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4756-1
Change part 30374 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 4758-1
Change part 30374 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory 10132-1
Change part 30374 from Dark Orange to Dark Nougat
Inventory minifigure hp023 (used in set 4728-1 and HPG02-1)
Change part 3901 from Earth Orange to Dark Nougat
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jan 17, 2020 04:36 | | Subject: | Re: when did lego start with adding a copyright> | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, fsasfsas writes:
| | Hi
I am trying to recompose different sets from a huge pile of lego as authentic
as possible, so I try to use time-period specific parts for older sets. An example
is the copyright symbol (sometimes together with text, e.g. "lego group"): I
do not want to use them in older sets.
I am able to date a lot of characteristics (in which mould numbers are very helpfull)
but I have difficulties in finding out when lego started to use the copyright
symbol. I know that lego used older material as long as that was available so
a precise date will not be possible, but perhaps some estimate? to prevent newer
parts in old sets?
I hope somebody can give me a clue.
thanks in advance, Anjo
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Somewhere around 2008.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2020 12:35 | | Subject: | Re: Multipacks as one inventory item? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, chetzler writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, chetzler writes:
| | I know this is going to open a can of worms and probably get some people agitated.
But can someone refresh me on the point of adding multipacks (such a as
) as a single inventory item? I know it was discussed as some point but I can't
find much in the forum. Was it because LEGO gives the entire thing a single
design ID? It makes extra work during part out since I have to part out the
parts after the set.
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Yes, it is due to the fact that LEGO considers these "multipacks" (family molds)
one part for inventory purposes.
Cheers,
Randy
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Any possibility we could get a "break multipacks into parts" option on the part
out screen? Sort of like the "Break Sets in Sets" option that currently exists
and is very useful for things like Advent calendars.
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I wish I could get the programmers in place to help with this, but the volunteer
admins have had almost no access to any programming time since the site was taken
over by the last owners many years ago. Instead of focusing on increasing the
usefulness and capabilities of the main site, they focused almost solely on side
projects and gimmicks (the MOC Shop, Mosaik, Studio, etc.) We all await what
may happen with the next owners.
Cheers,
Randy
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I still wonder how important those side projects and gimmicks were made to be
when the site was sold to LEGO...
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jan 9, 2020 20:05 | | Subject: | Re: New 2020 Colors | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, WoutR writes:
| | I am waiting for
I want to add zombie-teal to my collection 
but so far I have only found bricks with older mold numbers.
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I didn't have to wait long
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2020 20:39 | | Subject: | Re: New 2020 Colors | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, WhiteVanMan writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | This is not a comprehensive list. As always, it would be most helpful if BrickLink
included an easy way to see these.
New appearances in dark turquoise:
* | | 18923c01 Vehicle, Base 8 x 16 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards Raised, 4 x 14 Recessed Center with 3 Holes, and Dark Bluish Gray Wheels Holders
Parts: Vehicle, Base |
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Still waiting for these: in Dark Turquoise
I really want to be able to build one of these in this colour!
Paul
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I am waiting for
I want to add zombie-teal to my collection
but so far I have only found bricks with older mold numbers.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2020 19:14 | | Subject: | Re: New 2020 Colors | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
Thank you!
*makes note to add these to my wanted list*
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Dec 17, 2019 14:25 | | Subject: | Re: 3001 information | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, brick.bewdy writes:
| | I also find that I can not gain any more useful information here than I can from a haphazard Google search.
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That's your interpretation.
Did you check the link I gave you? That will enable you to find most of the information
you need.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Dec 12, 2019 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: 3001 information | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, brick.bewdy writes:
| | How many Grangemouth bricks were printed at any one time?
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That depends on when they were made because different molds were used. For the
multicolored bricks that you are thinking about: 4.
| | The 6 G prints is a weird number, and yeah - that cross support is an oddity.
Thanks fir that
In Colors, Nathan123 writes:
| | You got quite a few of the trans green bayer bricks 🙂. Got a few thingd to show
off too lol.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Oct 8, 2019 04:48 | | Subject: | Re: How rare is a flat silver 2x4 brick? | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Devil.R writes:
| | In Colors, Teup writes:
| | In Colors, mmookk61 writes:
| | In Colors, maxx3001 writes:
| | | | Since you all are discussing one private trade, should you both be discussing
this in pms?
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Premenstrual syndrome (PMS)?
Btw, we were discussing this 2 hours ago on here and one of us is new to the
site.....
Relax and the symptons will subside.
Maxx
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I apologize. You are right. Every transaction has a right to be discussed in
the forums and not via private messages, errr, I mean your PMS. We are all in
your circus and are your Monkeys
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Note that private trades, as in: trades outside the Bricklink order system, are
not allowed, and are therefore not allowed to be discussed at all - whether in
the forum or in private messages. That would be fee avoidance. That's why
Maxx is asking for it to go via Bricklink order.
On the other hand, this isn't a transaction that involves money, and I'm
not entirely sure what the policy is on that.
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I will buy his listed items, he will pay fees, and we both hope the postman isn't
having a bad day?
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Correct.
(And you don't have to worry, Maxx is a great guy. I have traded bricks with
him in the past.)
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Oct 8, 2019 04:45 | | Subject: | Re: How rare is a flat silver 2x4 brick? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Devil.R writes:
| | In Colors, Stuart9 writes:
| | I suspect somewhere in the £30 - £50 mark.
In Colors, Quaysretire writes:
| | In Colors, Devil.R writes:
| | I have one only for sale and/or trade.
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So how rare is it then? I am curious as there doesn’t seem to be any up for sale
so no idea on what price these would be?
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If this brick isn't the most current/wanted/valued 3001 brick, I'd be
surprised!
It has to be worth more than a trans-neon green, or thin-walled trans green easily?
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It is rare, but not the rarest/most wanted
Great find though, I hope you can find many more later!
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2019 11:57 | | Subject: | Re: found wrong category | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, FloathBricks writes:
| | Hello everybody,
Hope the post is right here. I found an article that is listed in the wrong category:
3626cpb2423 is listed under "Mini Doll, Head". Should actually under "Minifigure,
Head"
Greetings
Florian
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2019 15:39 | | Subject: | Re: What year were part numbers introduced? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
| | In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Catalog, 1271moggy writes:
| | I have just wondering if anyone knew when Lego started putting the part number
on the pieces. I have just found part 3176 which looks fairly 'new'
but has no part number. It just has the numbers 5 and 04 on the underside.
What do these numbers refer to?
Apologies if this has been asked before - I cannot find a thread.
Thanking you all
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The one or two digit numbers indicate molds and mold cavities in the actual machine
that creates the parts from liquid plastic injection. As far as what year TLC
started putting part numbers on the parts themselves, I'm afraid I do not
know.
David
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Part number such as 3001 for a 2x4 brick ? Certainly the older CA parts had that,
so it must have been in the earliest days.
Nita Rae
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The CA parts did have mold numbers (5 04) but not the part number (3176)
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2019 15:29 | | Subject: | Re: What year were part numbers introduced? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, 1271moggy writes:
| | I have just wondering if anyone knew when Lego started putting the part number
on the pieces. I have just found part 3176 which looks fairly 'new'
but has no part number. It just has the numbers 5 and 04 on the underside.
What do these numbers refer to?
Apologies if this has been asked before - I cannot find a thread.
Thanking you all
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If I remember correctly, around 1985.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2019 10:09 | | Subject: | Re: Help with color | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, randyf writes:
| | In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | I have discussed copper with Admins in the past, I think it is time for an update
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The only color that I could see a chance of getting added would be something
akin to "Metallic Gold" or "Metallic Silver" to separate surface-coated copper
parts from copper-color molded parts. Beyond that, it would be highly unlikely
to get any consensus to make further changes.
Cheers,
Randy
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That would be my priority also. I think we need a Metallic Copper.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Sep 4, 2019 09:52 | | Subject: | Re: Help with color | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, DeLuca writes:
| | In Colors, WoutR writes:
| | BrickLink's copper combines several different copper-like colors.
It combines LEGO colors 139 Copper, 189 Reddish Gold, 176 Red Flip/Flop (for Bionicle mask 32573 and 32572), 178 Yellow Flip/Flop (for Bionicle Kanohi mask), 346 Copper Metallic, 300 Copper, Drum Lacquered matte copper surface coating, 334 Copper ink (another surface coating).
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Wow. 🤯 Why??
Is there an actual reason for this (e.g. parts that overlap between LEGO’s colours,
natural colour-variations that make identification difficult, etc), or is it
just the product of inertia?
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When parts are released in a color that is not (yet) included in the Bricklink
catalog, there are two options:
- Add the new color,
- Group the color with an existing color
For all copper colors (both plastic colors and surface coatings), the second
option was chosen even though the appearance of the part can be very different.
This is supposed to make it easier for buyers and sellers. Many sellers will
not be able to accurately identify these colors because they are not used often
enough. These 7 colors were used for less than 50 parts in our catalog.
I have discussed copper with Admins in the past, I think it is time for an update
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Sep 3, 2019 02:14 | | Subject: | Re: Color Identification | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, randyf writes:
| | In Colors, antiquer88 writes:
| | I need some help identifying the color of the Bionicle mask on the right. It
is part #32573. It came in a large lot of used Bionicle parts, so I don't
know what set it came from originally. Supposedly, it only comes in Black, Blue,
Dark Gray, Light Gray, Lime, Medium Blue, Orange, Tan, Yellow, Copper, and Pearl
Light Gray.
As you can see, this is not any of those colors. I have photographed it with
a copper part next to it, so you can see that it is not copper. The closest
I can figure is that this is chrome pink, but there is nothing chrome about it.
It is more like a pearl dark pink color.
What color do you think it is?
I appreciate your help.
Stan.
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This mask is actually a LEGO color known as "Red Flip/Flop" and was only used
for the two Bionicle masks shown in
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15123159082/
The LEGO color "Red Flip/Flop" does not have a specific color on BrickLink and
is lumped under "Copper" since there is no other color close to it.
Cheers,
Randy
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Correct.
BrickLink's copper combines several different copper-like colors.
It combines LEGO colors 139 Copper, 189 Reddish Gold, 176 Red Flip/Flop (for
Bionicle mask 32573 and 32572), 178 Yellow Flip/Flop (for Bionicle Kanohi mask),
346 Copper Metallic, 300 Copper, Drum Lacquered matte copper surface coating,
334 Copper ink (another surface coating).
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Sep 3, 2019 02:08 | | Subject: | Re: Help with color | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, detroitbricks writes:
| | I have a part 30602 and I'm trying to figure the correct color. I believe
it to be copper since it's the only known color that makes sense. I have
added a copper color part to show the color difference.
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It is copper.
BrickLink's copper combines several different copper-like colors.
It combines LEGO colors 139 Copper, 189 Reddish Gold, 176 Red Flip/Flop (for
Bionicle mask 32573 and 32572), 178 Yellow Flip/Flop (for Bionicle Kanohi mask),
346 Copper Metallic, 300 Copper, Drum Lacquered matte copper surface coating,
334 Copper ink (another surface coating).
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