Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | bje  | | Posted: | Feb 18, 2021 08:01 | | Subject: | Re: Bar 4L length | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I just noticed one Bar 4L that was clearly shorter (~½ mm) than the other. It
has a LEGO logo on it, so it's genuine. Has anyone else seen this?
/Jan
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I have bars with bevelled edges which are shorter than the flat edge bars and
also some bevelled edged bars which are the same length as flat edge bars. There
does not seem to be a consistent difference in variants to be sure if it is a
specific variant that differentiates the length.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Feb 15, 2021 06:43 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink removing item from my inventory | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, ferfast writes:
| | I received an e-mail from Bricklink informing me that they had removed an item
on my selling list -I had posted a minifigure and specified that it does not
have a part i.e. a cape. Bricklink says the minifigure is incomplete so cannot
be listed to sell. How is this possible if many sets are sold incomplete, or
with variations -is it incorrect do sell an item without a part, even if I specifically
mention it on the listing?
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The rule, which should be in the e-mail you got from BrickLink
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
"Incomplete Minifigs - All minifigs, both New and Used, must be listed as
Complete. Incomplete minifigs should be broken down and listed as parts, or listed
in the custom items section with a custom photo and clear description."
| | I checked and other stores are selling the same part,
also without the cape, so why only me?
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Is not only you, you have plenty friends:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?v=c&max=100&q=incomplete%20minifig
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 16:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8313-1 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | Do you prefer to wait until the minifig is approved before filing the removals?
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I think it would be best to wait until you've had some time to calm down
so that we can have a more rational discussion on this topic.
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You asked for me to be constructive rather than destructive criticism, so I have
started adding missing figures to the catalogue using these published Figure
guidelines: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
Figure classification can sometimes be difficult. Therefore, this section
further clarifies how BrickLink decides if an item is a figure or not.
Figures: Characters, fantasy creatures, humans, mechanical objects, and statues.
Additional clarifications listed below.
Characters - These typically have a face and a name, but always display sentient
behavior beyond that of a similar animal or object.
Nick Bluetooth and so on all come under character, don't they? Even Shimmel.
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There is also this rule from the Adding Catalog Items Help Page:
Large part assemblies. - Large assemblies of parts that can be built into
figures, vehicles, or other structures often comprise a substantial portion of
a set and should not be added to the catalog. An exception has been made in the
past for some DUPLO vehicles representing fictional characters and some other
large assemblies with the Item Number prefix "spa" which were added as experiment.
If the entire set (or half the set) is used to build a figure / character, we
would be going against precedent to add it to the catalog. Adding it as a minifigure
is even a further stretch.
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So a set such as
which currently has one minifig should have four "figures" that would get put
into the category called minifigs, based on one figure that LEGO would normally
refer to as a minifigure and three other assemblies that BL refers to as figures,
even though LEGO would not call them minifigures due to the lack of minifigure
parts. Or do those also have too many parts to be considered as figures?
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Nope, those are all figures all right. They should be catalogued as such and
the change should occur. https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1246481
Catalogue admins are wholly correct - there is absolutely no reason not to do
this and not continue with the changes you initially started with here.
I do get the feeling that site management actually loves these inconsistencies
in the catalogue - it is almost like it gives them something to do. To me it
just seems every time some concerted effort is made to standardise or even just
get moving to some form of consistency, a spanner is thrown in the works and
everything just remains as messy as before and as confusing as ever. What an
utterly weird way to do things.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 15:21 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8313-1 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | Do you prefer to wait until the minifig is approved before filing the removals?
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I think it would be best to wait until you've had some time to calm down
so that we can have a more rational discussion on this topic.
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You asked for me to be constructive rather than destructive criticism, so I have
started adding missing figures to the catalogue using these published Figure
guidelines: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
Figure classification can sometimes be difficult. Therefore, this section
further clarifies how BrickLink decides if an item is a figure or not.
Figures: Characters, fantasy creatures, humans, mechanical objects, and statues.
Additional clarifications listed below.
Characters - These typically have a face and a name, but always display sentient
behavior beyond that of a similar animal or object.
Nick Bluetooth and so on all come under character, don't they? Even Shimmel.
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There is also this rule from the Adding Catalog Items Help Page:
Large part assemblies. - Large assemblies of parts that can be built into
figures, vehicles, or other structures often comprise a substantial portion of
a set and should not be added to the catalog. An exception has been made in the
past for some DUPLO vehicles representing fictional characters and some other
large assemblies with the Item Number prefix "spa" which were added as experiment.
If the entire set (or half the set) is used to build a figure / character, we
would be going against precedent to add it to the catalog. Adding it as a minifigure
is even a further stretch.
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And exactly here is the problem when you and your catalogue team do not speak
with one voice or even have a comparative understanding of what is happening.
The page you refer to:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
was updated on 18 November 2020 by you, but you apparently did not check that
that the catalogue item minifig does not exist any longer. The information relating
to large part assemblies of figures and the thing previously known as a minifig
have been replaced by the new definition of a "figure"
The new definition of figures are on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
which has been in existence and confirmed as being active since 1 June 2020 and
which are the definitions used to add the figure items to the catalogue.
On that definition, there is no such thing as a minifig. There are only figures.
A figure can be any size part assembly, says so right there. There is no specific
limitation as to number of parts. There is no specific limitation as to what
percentage of the set must be made up to the figure. For an item to be a catalogue
item as a figure, the only standard that has to be met is that it must be an
autonomous entity. You and your catalogue team should perhaps get together and
actually fix the cross references and actually speak with one voice as to what
exactly is meant when catalogue items are discussed.
It has been pointed out ad nauseum that we still do not have a definition for
a complete minifigure (whatever that is, see above) either - so perhaps it would
be best to complete the definitions such that users are not confused.
And if these figures (note: figures) are in fact figures by definition, there
should be absolutely no reason not to add them as catalogue items.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2021 03:27 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60180-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 4 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 4 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set parted out
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2021 03:25 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 30571-1 | | Viewed: | 12 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 2 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set parted out
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2021 03:21 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7994-1 | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 1 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set parted out
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2021 03:21 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7632-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 1 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set parted out
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2021 03:20 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4997-1 | | Viewed: | 12 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 2 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set parted out
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2021 03:20 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 3181-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 1 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set parted out
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