Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Gnomie11  | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2023 20:24 | | Subject: | Re: Death Star Imperial Trooper sw0208 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Hello Paul.
The photo I attached earlier shows that there are 3 alterative Torso's. I
have several photos from around the net showing these different Torsos.
The Torso with the Thick Black Circle has Flat Silver paint on it.
The Torso with the Thin Black Circle has a Textured Darker Thicker Silver paint
on it.
The Torso without the Black Circle has a Textured Darker Thicker Silver paint
on it.
Battle for Endor 8038 has the Imperial Trooper with no circle, but with the thicker
darker textured silver buckle, printed on the top edge of the box and in the
No. 2 Instruction manual at the back of the book. In the No. 1 manual it shows
the Imperial Trooper built with the Thick Black Circle.
So there are lots of inconsistencies with the Torso.
I have seen an Imperial Pilot with the same Torso with the Thin Black Circle
alternative.
The real issue is that the sellers use the stock photo for the imperial Trooper,
which has the Thick Black Circle, but they do not realise that there are 2 other
alternatives. An neither does the buyer till they get the Imperial Trooper sent
out. Also your stock photo of the parted out Torso is the Thin Black Circle one.
So the catalog has 2 images listed.
This is my problem. I have 3 different Troopers now when I needed 2 the same.
With the Thick Black Circle because that is what was with the 10188 set. I didn't
know to ask for photos till I had to buy 2 more of them.
There does need to be information that there are different Torsos.
I still have find and purchase another Imperial Trooper. And some how sell these
other 2 I don't need. It has been an expensive experience.
Thanks Ian.
In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Gnomie11 writes:
| | I'd just like Bricklink to recognise that there are 3 versions.
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Can it be proved that the 3 versions are intentional rather than just heavier
printing?
I'm not sure the thick/thin ring is intentional - that just seems like standard
printing variation.
If you could provide the evidence from sealed set contents/set reviews etc that
the solid silver version was intentional and always came in a certain set(s)
then we would certainly consider it but like I say we would need solid proof.
Failing that the best we could do is add a note to the catalog entry mentioning
the variation.
Thanks,
Paul.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2023 07:22 | | Subject: | Re: Death Star Imperial Trooper sw0208 | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Thanks. I have been looking outside of Australia but the postage from some countries
is rather expensive. Getting good photos is difficult too. They are often blurry,
or they photo them inside a plastic baggie.
Doesn't help.
I'd just like Brinklink to recognise that there are 3 versions.
Ian.
In Catalog Requests, LeeGo73 writes:
| | Maybe look outside Australia?
There are plenty of sellers with 5+ on stock, contact some that ship to Australia
and ask for photos/quote.
Good luck
In Catalog Requests, Gnomie11 writes:
| | I am getting frustrated with the Catalog not being updated. I have a Death Star
UCS 10188 set. It had some minifigures missing which I am trying to replace.
In particular 2 Imperial Troopers with Black Helmets and Thick Black Circles
on the Silver Belt Buckle. I have purchased 3 Imperial Troopers so far and they
all have different Torso's. It's an Unlucky Dip as to what Torso they
have.
I have
1. Large Black Circle on the Silver Belt Buckle.
2. Thin Black Circle on a Heavy Painted Silver Metallic Belt Buckle.
3. No Black Circle at all.
Picture is attached.
Members are telling me that they are either Misprints or Play Wear. The Black
Circle isn't printed, it's the Background Colour of the Minifigure. The
Silver is printed. On the Thin Black Belt Buckle the Silver is Thickly painted
and a Metallic colour. So it's not a Misprint. Neither is it play wear because
it can't wear off.
I have tried to contact sellers before buying a Forth one, and they didn't
know. I have asked for a Photo of the Imperial Trooper, and only one has replied.
They had the Thin Black Circle version. In the means time most of the Imperial
Troopers for sale have been sold. There are only 2 left and only one seller replies
to emails.
I have spent over 6 months, and over $50 trying to replace these minifigures.
And I could spend another $30 in buying a forth one because they seem to be rare.
The three versions do exist and can be found around the net, and on Lego's
Boxes and Instruction manuals.
So why aren't they listed in the catalog to prevent Buyers getting frustrated
and Sellers having to refund items when it's not either of their faults.
Just as a side note, if you think that they don't exist then look at the
parts break down of the sw0208 Imperial Trooper. The Torso as the Thin Black
Circle.
Sorry for ranting.
Ian.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2023 01:47 | | Subject: | Death Star Imperial Trooper sw0208 | | Viewed: | 133 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | | For: | Catalog Associate | | Status: | Open | |
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| I am getting frustrated with the Catalog not being updated. I have a Death Star
UCS 10188 set. It had some minifigures missing which I am trying to replace.
In particular 2 Imperial Troopers with Black Helmets and Thick Black Circles
on the Silver Belt Buckle. I have purchased 3 Imperial Troopers so far and they
all have different Torso's. It's an Unlucky Dip as to what Torso they
have.
I have
1. Large Black Circle on the Silver Belt Buckle.
2. Thin Black Circle on a Heavy Painted Silver Metallic Belt Buckle.
3. No Black Circle at all.
Picture is attached.
Members are telling me that they are either Misprints or Play Wear. The Black
Circle isn't printed, it's the Background Colour of the Minifigure. The
Silver is printed. On the Thin Black Belt Buckle the Silver is Thickly painted
and a Metallic colour. So it's not a Misprint. Neither is it play wear because
it can't wear off.
I have tried to contact sellers before buying a Forth one, and they didn't
know. I have asked for a Photo of the Imperial Trooper, and only one has replied.
They had the Thin Black Circle version. In the means time most of the Imperial
Troopers for sale have been sold. There are only 2 left and only one seller replies
to emails.
I have spent over 6 months, and over $50 trying to replace these minifigures.
And I could spend another $30 in buying a forth one because they seem to be rare.
The three versions do exist and can be found around the net, and on Lego's
Boxes and Instruction manuals.
So why aren't they listed in the catalog to prevent Buyers getting frustrated
and Sellers having to refund items when it's not either of their faults.
Just as a side note, if you think that they don't exist then look at the
parts break down of the sw0208 Imperial Trooper. The Torso as the Thin Black
Circle.
Sorry for ranting.
Ian.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2022 02:27 | | Subject: | Re: Death Star Imperial Trooper | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Gnomie11 writes:
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| | Hello.
I have a Death Star UCS 10188. It is 75% new, with just Box 1 opened, and Bags
1 opened. These bags contained the Minifigures. Some of which where missing.
I have sourced replacement figures but I have now found that one of the two Death
Star Imperial Troopers has a slightly different Torso. In that on the metal buckle
of the utility belt, one has a Black circle, and one doesn't. Everything
else is identical. Does anyone know if this is for a different Minifigure or
a strange variant.
The photo attached shows both Minifigures.
Thanks, Ian.
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I have now found that there are 3 variants of the Imperial Deathstar Troopers.
One has a Thick Black Circle, another has a Thin Black Circle and the third has
no Circle on the Silver Belt Buckle. This make it rather annoying when you are
trying to complete a set for sale. I needed 2 Imperial Troopers, but in the process
I have bought 3 different Troopers. So I don't have a matched set of 2. The
photo of the Trooper for sale is a stock photo so you don't know what you
are buying till you get it. If the catalogue had been updated then I wouldn't
have to buy 4 Troopers! Also, there are 2 variants of the Black Helmet. One has
a pin hole in the top, the others don't. So, the Imperial Trooper with the
Thin Black Circle has the Helmet with the Pin Hole. (I feel like I'm in a
Danny Kaye movie with the Chalice from the Palace, and the Vessel with the Pestle
has the brew that is True,,,,,,)
Ian.
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And just when you think it can't get any worse, Lego had made an error in
the instruction to built the Laser Rifle Stand on the right of the second picture.
The 1 x 2 slope either should be the other way around, or like me, have another
1 x 4 black plate to elevate it, so the rifle butt doesn't push the top bricks
off when in the 1st or 4th holes.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Dec 12, 2022 20:11 | | Subject: | Re: Death Star Imperial Trooper | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Gnomie11 writes:
| | Hello.
I have a Death Star UCS 10188. It is 75% new, with just Box 1 opened, and Bags
1 opened. These bags contained the Minifigures. Some of which where missing.
I have sourced replacement figures but I have now found that one of the two Death
Star Imperial Troopers has a slightly different Torso. In that on the metal buckle
of the utility belt, one has a Black circle, and one doesn't. Everything
else is identical. Does anyone know if this is for a different Minifigure or
a strange variant.
The photo attached shows both Minifigures.
Thanks, Ian.
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I have now found that there are 3 variants of the Imperial Deathstar Troopers.
One has a Thick Black Circle, another has a Thin Black Circle and the third has
no Circle on the Silver Belt Buckle. This make it rather annoying when you are
trying to complete a set for sale. I needed 2 Imperial Troopers, but in the process
I have bought 3 different Troopers. So I don't have a matched set of 2. The
photo of the Trooper for sale is a stock photo so you don't know what you
are buying till you get it. If the catalogue had been updated then I wouldn't
have to buy 4 Troopers! Also, there are 2 variants of the Black Helmet. One has
a pin hole in the top, the others don't. So, the Imperial Trooper with the
Thin Black Circle has the Helmet with the Pin Hole. (I feel like I'm in a
Danny Kaye movie with the Chalice from the Palace, and the Vessel with the Pestle
has the brew that is True,,,,,,)
Ian.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Dec 9, 2022 00:38 | | Subject: | Re: Death Star Imperial Trooper | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, UTLF writes:
| | Hi,
I also have have a Death Star UCS 10188 that's 75% new, with just Box 1 opened,
and Bag 1 opened (the bags contained the minifigs) some are missing, though.
Upon purchasing replacement minifigures, I've also discovered that one of
the Death Star Imperial Troopers has a slightly different torso: one's belt
has a black circle, and the other one doesn't.
Although this is a very strange occurrence, it doesn't seem uncommon, as
both you and I have encountered this phenomenon, and so did this guy: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1380326
I've attached a photo of my minifigures for reference just so you know you're
not alone in this.
Hope this helps!
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I have found some info on an Imperial Trooper minifigure in the Battle of Endor
8038. It shows large pictures of the Minifigures in the instruction book with
no black circle. On the Box the trooper has the black circle on the front, but
no black circle on side of the box. On a site called Eurobrick a review of 8038
shows the 2 figures in the attached photo. One torso has the black circle the
other doesn't. So some where there is a factory producing Imperial Troops
without the black circle. Ian.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 20:32 | | Subject: | Re: Death Star Imperial Trooper | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, UTLF writes:
| | Hi,
I also have have a Death Star UCS 10188 that's 75% new, with just Box 1 opened,
and Bag 1 opened (the bags contained the minifigs) some are missing, though.
Upon purchasing replacement minifigures, I've also discovered that one of
the Death Star Imperial Troopers has a slightly different torso: one's belt
has a black circle, and the other one doesn't.
Although this is a very strange occurrence, it doesn't seem uncommon, as
both you and I have encountered this phenomenon, and so did this guy: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1380326
I've attached a photo of my minifigures for reference just so you know you're
not alone in this.
Hope this helps!
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Yes it does help thank you. You have the mirror image of my 2 Imperial Troopers.
Some one might be able to spread more light on it. Though it was strange that
Bricklink did't show the variant. Ian.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 20:27 | | Subject: | Re: Death Star Imperial Trooper | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, tonnic writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Gnomie11 writes:
| | Hello.
I have a Death Star UCS 10188. It is 75% new, with just Box 1 opened, and Bags
1 opened. These bags contained the Minifigures. Some of which where missing.
I have sourced replacement figures but I have now found that one of the two Death
Star Imperial Troopers has a slightly different Torso. In that on the metal buckle
of the utility belt, one has a Black circle, and one doesn't. Everything
else is identical. Does anyone know if this is for a different Minifigure or
a strange variant.
The photo attached shows both Minifigures.
Thanks, Ian.
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Hello Ian,
If my memory still works fine yours is a quite common variant.
I think at one point in Bricklink history it was in the catalog or at least mentioned
in this forum.
Why it isn’t recognized as such nowadays is unknown for me, BL has more of these
enigmas.
After some searching at Google I saw at least 1 of the sort without the circle.
Others will come in to inform you I guess but I will check further.
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Thanks for the reply. Some one suggested Play Wear but the Circle isn't painted.
It might be from a particular maker of this Minifigure. Not possible to miss
the Circle by accident because the Circle is not painted. I am, planning on selling
the set so will have to buy another Imperial Trooper for consistency. Will do
a little more research if no one else knows why. Ian.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 19:57 | | Subject: | Death Star Imperial Trooper | | Viewed: | 90 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| Hello.
I have a Death Star UCS 10188. It is 75% new, with just Box 1 opened, and Bags
1 opened. These bags contained the Minifigures. Some of which where missing.
I have sourced replacement figures but I have now found that one of the two Death
Star Imperial Troopers has a slightly different Torso. In that on the metal buckle
of the utility belt, one has a Black circle, and one doesn't. Everything
else is identical. Does anyone know if this is for a different Minifigure or
a strange variant.
The photo attached shows both Minifigures.
Thanks, Ian.
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| Author: | Gnomie11 | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 04:30 | | Subject: | Death Star Imperial Trooper | | Viewed: | 103 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| Hello.
I have a Death Star UCS 10188. It is 75% new, with just Box 1 opened, and Bags
1 opened. These bags contained the Minifigures. Some of which where missing.
I have sourced replacement figures but I have now found that one of the two Death
Star Imperial Troopers has a slightly different Torso. In that on the metal buckle
of the utility belt, one has a Black circle, and one doesn't. Everything
else is identical. Does anyone know if this is for a different Minifigure or
a strange variant.
The photo attached shows both Minifigures.
Thanks, Ian.
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