Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | calsbricks  | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2021 00:12 | | Subject: | Brickstock/Brickstore issues - update | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| Further to our original post we are delighted to advise thet with the help and
patience of Beaverbrick we now have a working labels template for Brickstore.
That has also revealed a bug in Brickstore which we are looking at how best to
report that.
The labels work wonderfully, but you can not selectively print them - it is
all or nothing. That happens whether using the label template from the extras
menu or the normal Brickstore print command. It seems to think a document is
the entire list not a selected item. Workaround is simple, copy the individual
item to another document and print from that, but it is a definite bug.
Thanks again Beaverbrick
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2021 11:18 | | Subject: | Re: Change ,oftenbrings chaos | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Teup writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | Having looked back a long way in the forum (before the current lot of compliance
issues being addressed) I could find no real issues being brought up over sales
tax, vat etc. The stores where it applied were dealing with it with no real issues.
All of a sudden legislates get involved, without thinking things through, as
usual, and we have a degree of chaos here on Bricklink. How odd that the individual
stores, where applicable coped more than adequately, until this load of changes
emerged,
The moral of the story is let well enough alone. Yes they may have missed the
odd amount of tax or vat but things were being dealt with - no pressure on BL
to come up with a total solution and no forum posts raising holy hell.
Still there is no going backwards only forwards and we are all now waiting for
the issues to be dealt with - they are far more complicated than what people
believe but if others have dealt with it I am sure BL will in due course.
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Well, life was simpler in the past in general... That doesn't mean we can
recreate that by not having the rules we have today. They're there for a
reason. Today's world can't exist without improved legislation on e-commerce,
just like it can't exist without something like cyber security. The problem
is just that Bricklink doesn't see changes in the world as opportunities
to make this platform professional and respectable, but rather behaves like a
poorly motivated teenager who does the bare minimum to pass the class at the
very last moment (and in some cases less than the bare minimum and later than
the last moment).
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Hiya Teup. Veery philosophical.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2021 10:31 | | Subject: | Re: Change ,oftenbrings chaos | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, cosmicray writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | Yes they may have missed the
odd amount of tax or vat but things were being dealt with - no pressure on BL
to come up with a total solution and no forum posts raising holy hell.
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You don't live in the USA, so your understanding of the previous situation
may not have been clear. Prior to July 1, 2021, sellers on BrickLink, and located
outside of Florida, were not collecting sales tax. So 49 US states plus all international
sellers were not collecting sales and use tax for shipments destined for Florida.
The same situation applied to ~40 other US states. I do not consider that an
odd amount of sales tax.
Furthermore it created a lopsided playing field between sellers in Florida, and
sellers outside of Florida, for shipments destined here. Since July 1, I've
noticed more orders destined for Florida than I used to receive. Likewise I've
seen fewer orders going to California. So it balances out (in some sense).
Nita Rae
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Just to help you out Born and raised for the first 21 years of my life in Buffalo,
New York. Well aware of the sales tax situation - every time my family and I
visit the US all I hear from them is we forgot about the sales tax - so it wasn't
quite as cheap as as we thought.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2021 03:59 | | Subject: | Change ,oftenbrings chaos | | Viewed: | 181 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Having looked back a long way in the forum (before the current lot of compliance
issues being addressed) I could find no real issues being brought up over sales
tax, vat etc. The stores where it applied were dealing with it with no real issues.
All of a sudden legislates get involved, without thinking things through, as
usual, and we have a degree of chaos here on Bricklink. How odd that the individual
stores, where applicable coped more than adequately, until this load of changes
emerged,
The moral of the story is let well enough alone. Yes they may have missed the
odd amount of tax or vat but things were being dealt with - no pressure on BL
to come up with a total solution and no forum posts raising holy hell.
Still there is no going backwards only forwards and we are all now waiting for
the issues to be dealt with - they are far more complicated than what people
believe but if others have dealt with it I am sure BL will in due course.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 12, 2021 00:07 | | Subject: | Re: What happens next | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | In General, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | TLG - Bricklink have recently announced a change of leadership at Bricklink
and thanks the previous CEO for all of his efforts. (Sorry to Interrupt the Monthly
Contests), etc.
We have a new gentleman coming on board - who we do not know a great deal about
other than he is a Lego guy. Ok good. Everyone who uses this site since JK's
takeover (2013) knows it needs a major re-write (Not XP) but both a redesign
and rethink. There have been a few (Including one by us) messages on here which
pointed the cost of doing that to be around 2 years in development terms at whatever
cost you wish to put on that.
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For me 2 things come to mind:-
1. Cost benefit analysis - what would Lego and everyone else expect to get out
of rewriting the site (versus doing nothing or doing something else instead)?
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Hiya Robert
A little bird told us a rewrite is the only real way to get thee functionality
we want. Far too much 'spaghetti code' to leave as it is. But the whole
point is it has to be done on a collaboration basis not one individual deciding
what everyone wants and needs. Time will, of course tell
| | 2. Risk analysis. Completely rewriting the site sounds like potentially changing
(or losing) some functionality and as we have seen many times before a resulting
dissatisfaction from members. Could be disaster.
I don't know if they are even thinking of doing this or not and I'm personally
not convinced it is the right thing to do now. Overall not my decision to make
thankfully!
Robert
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Correct me if I'm wrong but XP is already the work in progress where all
the substantial programming and work will be focused. The standard BL will sit
alongside XP and remain largely untouched apart from being patched up here and
there and so I don't think there should be any concern about losing what
we already have.
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HI there and thanks for adding your thoughts. We believe this entire situation
has changed/evolved and a different approach is in the air. Time, will of course
tell and of course whatever does happen the main site will be kept in place until
any new development is ready.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 11, 2021 12:23 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstock/Brickstore - issues | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, beaverbrick writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | In Related Software, beaverbrick writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | In Related Software, beaverbrick writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | We have been Brickstock users since Patrick took it on and in many cases worked
closely with him to iron out issues etc, however his main job really does prevent
him from carrying on with developments so the product is slowly but surely heading
for the archives. Current issues include not getting any images of minwfigures
(everything else is okay), and price guide guidelines are also not updating properly.
So we downloaded Brickstore and it 'cures/fixes' the current Brickstock
issues and adds some nice touches but and it is a big but. We cannot use our
print templates. Yes we know about modifying viewws etc but that doesnt work
when we need to print labels for our products - and it works very well in Brickstock.
. We worked with tsrateplayer (Alan) a long time ago to get these templates done
and have shared them with many Brickstock users. We have good documentation on
theme and a how to guide to create or modify them but have not got a clue how
to incorporate them into Brickstore.
Maybe we can actually reach out to Robert via this forum message and ask if he
is willing to incorporate these into Brickstore. (We print delivery notes as
well as product labels via the templates.
Thoughts/comments.
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Forgot to add the minifigure issue started immediately after Bricklink changed
the id from minifig to minifigure - we are sure that has something to do with
the issue.
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The print templates in BrickStore are JavaScript.
I never used BrickStock so I don't know what format they're in.
Take a look at this page...
https://github.com/rgriebl/brickstore/tree/master/extensions
Scroll down to the README.md section and it gives you info on how to get a print
template into BrickStore (basically, copying the print template file into the
right directory/folder and giving it the right file extension).
I have modified existing templates for my own use, so I'd be happy to take
a look if you're not having much joy... although I'm not a pro programmer
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OK - the Brickstock files are .qs files and it says only qm are allowed. Not
being a programmer doesn't help me cause I dont know if I can convert the
qs to qm or I have to develop a qm file and add it to the directory. Grrr.
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Send me the qs file from BrickStock and I'll take a look.
If you send me instructions on how to load the template into BrickStock too,
I can then see exactly what you want in BrickStore.
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Done - will wait to hear from you. The labels one is the most critical - we
have found a way to create a view that then prints a bit like our delivery note.
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Working through some of these and think we're getting there.
Which labels are the most important for you?
There are 5 different label layouts, some of which have identical names in BrickStock!!...
Labels_5b
labels_A4Order
labels_A4Report
labels_bill
labels_DYMO
Thanks :
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Answered by PM - THanks)
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 11, 2021 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: What happens next | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | TLG - Bricklink have recently announced a change of leadership at Bricklink
and thanks the previous CEO for all of his efforts. (Sorry to Interrupt the Monthly
Contests), etc.
We have a new gentleman coming on board - who we do not know a great deal about
other than he is a Lego guy. Ok good. Everyone who uses this site since JK's
takeover (2013) knows it needs a major re-write (Not XP) but both a redesign
and rethink. There have been a few (Including one by us) messages on here which
pointed the cost of doing that to be around 2 years in development terms at whatever
cost you wish to put on that.
|
For me 2 things come to mind:-
1. Cost benefit analysis - what would Lego and everyone else expect to get out
of rewriting the site (versus doing nothing or doing something else instead)?
|
Hiya Robert
A little bird told us a rewrite is the only real way to get thee functionality
we want. Far too much 'spaghetti code' to leave as it is. But the whole
point is it has to be done on a collaboration basis not one individual deciding
what everyone wants and needs. Time will, of course tell
| | 2. Risk analysis. Completely rewriting the site sounds like potentially changing
(or losing) some functionality and as we have seen many times before a resulting
dissatisfaction from members. Could be disaster.
I don't know if they are even thinking of doing this or not and I'm personally
not convinced it is the right thing to do now. Overall not my decision to make
thankfully!
Robert
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 11, 2021 11:12 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstock/Brickstore - issues | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, MMillere writes:
| | Please share in a new post if this works
Milissa
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Of corse
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 11, 2021 10:12 | | Subject: | Re: What happens next | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, kzinti writes:
| | Architecture is everything, so rebuilding a house on a crappy foundation only
results in more issues down the road. The site needs a complete rebuild from
the bottom up, and if the core system is built out correctly, the subs can be
handled Agile style for quicker results.
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Hiya and thanks for adding your thoughts. I think I covered architecture with
the analyst and a systems spec. Systems meaning architecture, UI, and functionality.
Still do not see a need for agile - requires so much admin and follow up etc,
but if we get that far who cares.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Dec 11, 2021 06:48 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstock/Brickstore - issues | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, beaverbrick writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | In Related Software, beaverbrick writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | We have been Brickstock users since Patrick took it on and in many cases worked
closely with him to iron out issues etc, however his main job really does prevent
him from carrying on with developments so the product is slowly but surely heading
for the archives. Current issues include not getting any images of minwfigures
(everything else is okay), and price guide guidelines are also not updating properly.
So we downloaded Brickstore and it 'cures/fixes' the current Brickstock
issues and adds some nice touches but and it is a big but. We cannot use our
print templates. Yes we know about modifying viewws etc but that doesnt work
when we need to print labels for our products - and it works very well in Brickstock.
. We worked with tsrateplayer (Alan) a long time ago to get these templates done
and have shared them with many Brickstock users. We have good documentation on
theme and a how to guide to create or modify them but have not got a clue how
to incorporate them into Brickstore.
Maybe we can actually reach out to Robert via this forum message and ask if he
is willing to incorporate these into Brickstore. (We print delivery notes as
well as product labels via the templates.
Thoughts/comments.
|
Forgot to add the minifigure issue started immediately after Bricklink changed
the id from minifig to minifigure - we are sure that has something to do with
the issue.
|
The print templates in BrickStore are JavaScript.
I never used BrickStock so I don't know what format they're in.
Take a look at this page...
https://github.com/rgriebl/brickstore/tree/master/extensions
Scroll down to the README.md section and it gives you info on how to get a print
template into BrickStore (basically, copying the print template file into the
right directory/folder and giving it the right file extension).
I have modified existing templates for my own use, so I'd be happy to take
a look if you're not having much joy... although I'm not a pro programmer
|
OK - the Brickstock files are .qs files and it says only qm are allowed. Not
being a programmer doesn't help me cause I dont know if I can convert the
qs to qm or I have to develop a qm file and add it to the directory. Grrr.
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Send me the qs file from BrickStock and I'll take a look.
If you send me instructions on how to load the template into BrickStock too,
I can then see exactly what you want in BrickStore.
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Done - will wait to hear from you. The labels one is the most critical - we
have found a way to create a view that then prints a bit like our delivery note.
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