Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | calsbricks  | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2021 10:17 | | Subject: | Re: In a nutshell | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | OK the EU Marketplace VAT changes are released and in the throes of being examined,
and as pretty much normal, there are things missing. That is not new. We are
still waiting for the sales tax exemption for the US and that was a long time
ago. We are also still waiting on the zip code pricing for the US, as well as
weight and volume based pricing for most of Europe (Lots have workarounds for
this). We must not forget the margin scheme in all of tjhis – yet another complication
All sellers who have not implemented an onsite payment method are not affected
by these changes as Bricklink has limited the payment methods to either Paypal
or Stripe, where they have an arrangement to collect the monies directly before
the seller gets paid.
If you have implemented onsite payments then you are affected one way or the
other. Depends on what country you are in or selling from and also has a dependency
on your cumulative turnover in the EU currently 10k euros, (That hasn’t been
implemented yet either) Seeing a pattern ? we do. Big picture design and programming
works well in some circumstances but not all, the same as agile development
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More points than what fits "in a nutshell" but okay. I'm interested in this
statement "Seeing a pattern? We do" would you mind expanding on it?
-Clueless (member formerly known as popsicle )
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Yes - we will leave it to your very vivid imagination
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In time maybe the missing features will be added, only Bricklink knows that at
present. In the meantime we have a great deal of sympathy for those that are
caught up in this, both buyers, who are going to pay more and sellers who will
have an additional administrative burden and cost landed on them (You pay Paypal
or Stripe fees based on the total value of the orger (Which includes VAR, where
appropriate. Still that isn’t a lot is it?
I have left out lots of complicated bits here as that was not the point, How
is Bricklink going to know if a sellers turnover reaches 10k in a 12 month period,
for example unless the seller declares it.
Good fun and always, yes always a challenge.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2021 06:15 | | Subject: | In a nutshell | | Viewed: | 286 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| OK the EU Marketplace VAT changes are released and in the throes of being examined,
and as pretty much normal, there are things missing. That is not new. We are
still waiting for the sales tax exemption for the US and that was a long time
ago. We are also still waiting on the zip code pricing for the US, as well as
weight and volume based pricing for most of Europe (Lots have workarounds for
this). We must not forget the margin scheme in all of tjhis – yet another complication
All sellers who have not implemented an onsite payment method are not affected
by these changes as Bricklink has limited the payment methods to either Paypal
or Stripe, where they have an arrangement to collect the monies directly before
the seller gets paid.
If you have implemented onsite payments then you are affected one way or the
other. Depends on what country you are in or selling from and also has a dependency
on your cumulative turnover in the EU currently 10k euros, (That hasn’t been
implemented yet either) Seeing a pattern ? we do. Big picture design and programming
works well in some circumstances but not all, the same as agile development
In time maybe the missing features will be added, only Bricklink knows that at
present. In the meantime we have a great deal of sympathy for those that are
caught up in this, both buyers, who are going to pay more and sellers who will
have an additional administrative burden and cost landed on them (You pay Paypal
or Stripe fees based on the total value of the orger (Which includes VAR, where
appropriate. Still that isn’t a lot is it?
I have left out lots of complicated bits here as that was not the point, How
is Bricklink going to know if a sellers turnover reaches 10k in a 12 month period,
for example unless the seller declares it.
Good fun and always, yes always a challenge.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 07:16 | | Subject: | Re: New EU Marketplace Tax Solution is Now Live | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Erikmax writes:
| | In Administrative, Stellar writes:
| | In Administrative, kaat writes:
| | In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, Brick.Store writes:
| | Affected are all sellers in the EU that are over 10,000 €.
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Although there's no excuse for it not working, as far as I can see it doesn't
need to be a serious problem, right? I mean, you already had to do your invoicing
outside of Bricklink (if only for the fact the invoice on Bricklink cannot include
an invoice number). So you can also apply the buyer country's VAT percentage
manually. So, the inc.VAT amount would remain the same for all EU buyers but
on the backend you charge a different VAT percentage.
Also, I think the sales up to July don't count for the limit, so you still
have some time to use the old system (if not the full remainder of this year,
and a part of next year if your book year starts in January).
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This is exactly what I end up doing. Simply remove 21% dutch VAT for non-domestic
EU sales and readd the correct EU VAT myself. This means I'll lose a bit
on sales to countries with a higher VAT % and gain a little when the VAT % is
lower. At least then you can track sales with the correct VAT in your own book
keeping and report it at the end of the quarter.
OneStopShop is voluntary when below 10K but I already subscribed simply because
I don't want to have to start using all the different VAT percentages in
the middle of the quarter (when you're about to go over the threshold). And
when you already know you need to do it sooner or later, better do it from the
start.
So you need to work around it for now  Most likely automate it, as it's
not funny doing this manually.
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Yeah, as I expected Bricklink to not comply with EU law to this date that is
what I thought to do too. Hope no worker from EU VAT compliance checks Bricklink's
big sellers and they don't display prices with the correct VAT...
Deep inside me I had still a bit of faith, but I don't know why...
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And there is another point. What consequences will this have for the non-registered
sellers? I presume all files of export sales will now have to be handed over
to the taxman. I wonder what solutions Bricklink will have to tackle both the
margin regulations and the privat sellers.
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There is a little bit of a twist to that. Non registered sellers who do not offer
onsite payments cannot make sales to any one other than domestic and a few countries
where tax is not in situ.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 06:37 | | Subject: | Re: New EU Marketplace Tax Solution is Now Live | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, Brick.Store writes:
| | In Administrative, Brick.Store writes:
| | In Administrative, Teup writes:
| | In Administrative, Brick.Store writes:
| | Affected are all sellers in the EU that are over 10,000 €.
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Although there's no excuse for it not working, as far as I can see it doesn't
need to be a serious problem, right? I mean, you already had to do your invoicing
outside of Bricklink (if only for the fact the invoice on Bricklink cannot include
an invoice number). So you can also apply the buyer country's VAT percentage
manually. So, the inc.VAT amount would remain the same for all EU buyers but
on the backend you charge a different VAT percentage.
Also, I think the sales up to July don't count for the limit, so you still
have some time to use the old system (if not the full remainder of this year,
and a part of next year if your book year starts in January).
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It is no more time to use the old system because:
Determination of the turnover threshold 2021
For the assessment of the place of supply in the taxable period 2021, the following
must also be included to be included, which were executed in the calendar year
2020 and in the 1st half of 2021.
This means that if the turnover threshold has already been exceeded in the calendar
year 2020 or in the 1st half of 2021, from July 1, 2021 onwards, from the first
turnover onwards, for all within the EU
or
Do I fall under the obligation to report to the OSS if I have already exceeded
the threshold of 10,000 euros in 2020?
Yes. The supply threshold of 10,000 euros (net) also applies in advance. If the
threshold of 10,000 euros was exceeded in 2020, then the obligation to report
to the OSS applies from July 1, 2021.
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Here is an excerpt from a FAQ
3. from when is the tax liability due?
The sale that leads to crossing the delivery threshold is the sale from which
the tax liability becomes due. If the threshold has already been reached in 2020
or in the first two quarters of 2021, then any sale will be subject to tax from
July 1. If the delivery threshold of 10,000 euros (net) is not reached until
September 2021, for example, then tax is not due until then.
4. When must the first report and the first payment be made in the OSS procedure?
The first report covering the 3rd quarter of 2021 (July, August, September) must
be submitted no later than October 31. 30 days after the end of the reporting
period, the payment period ends.
5. Is it possible to waive claiming the delivery threshold and pay tax directly
from the first euro in the destination country?
Yes, this is possible.
6. Do I fall under the obligation to report to the OSS if I have already exceeded
the threshold of 10,000 euros in 2020?
Yes. The supply threshold of 10,000 euros (net) also applies in advance. If the
threshold of 10,000 euros was exceeded in 2020, then the obligation to report
to the OSS applies from July 1, 2021.
7. Are shipping costs used to calculate whether the delivery threshold has
been exceeded?
Yes.
8. I have already exceeded the delivery threshold of 10,000 euros in Q1 2021.
Do I now have to report every remote sale through the OSS starting July 1?
Yes. If you have already exceeded the delivery threshold in 2021 or already in
2020, then you must report through the OSS starting July 1, 2021 if you want
to use the OSS.
Example 9: A German trader sells goods to Austria and France. When does he
become liable for tax in the two EU countries?
As long as the sales to Austria and France together amount to less than 10,000
euros, the German VAT rate of 19 percent or the reduced rate of 7 percent applies.
As soon as the sales to other EU countries exceed 10,000 euros, for example if
the entrepreneur has sold goods worth 6,000 euros to Austria and goods worth
4,001 euros to France, the entrepreneur becomes liable to pay tax in both countries.
Then each additional euro must be taxed in France at the French VAT rate (usually
20 percent). Each additional euro earned in Austria must be taxed at the Austrian
rate (usually 20 percent).
However, reporting and taxation can be done together via the One-Stop-Shop and
the taxes for both Austria and France are then forwarded to the Tax Office, which
handles the distribution of taxes to the respective EU countries.
Quelle: https://www.haendlerbund.de/de/news/aktuelles/rechtliches/3769-faq-one-stop-shop-umsatzsteuer#meldepflicht%202020
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Thanks for that info, I just studied the page of the Dutch tax agency closely
and it seems these implementations vary per country. According to the Dutch tax
agency, you must use VAT per coutnry once you have passed the 10.000 limit in
that booking year. So, technically, you could use domestic VAT every year until
you reach the limit and then switch to VAT per country (it says you would need
to do so starting from the first invoice that exceeds the limit in that year).
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Okay you are now just serving hobbyists on Bricklink and we are now only serving
domestic customers (No onsite payment option). Good fun and maybe, just maybe
other doors will open. Straanger things have happened.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2021 05:00 | | Subject: | Re: Warning, be careful sellers using Stripe. | | Viewed: | 110 times | | Topic: | Payment Methods | |
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| In Payment Methods, GraysBricks writes:
| | This has been mentioned before but I thought it best to let others sellers know
my latest experience.
Stripe seem to have targeted me are not satisfied with my bricklink store url
or domain redirect to ' verify ' my business. They are therefore stopping
payouts so I have had to disable for now on Bricklink .
I have been very clear to them about Lego and Bricklink and invited them to look
to see its all genuine but that don't seem interested.
It would be very helpful to have an alternative in the future so sellers could
choose between services.
Below is the email that started the talk with them that is still ongoing. I
have responded to their questions but it doesn't look promising.
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Thanks for using Stripe!
We're reaching out today to request some information about your company’s
business model that we couldn’t verify using your website and Stripe account
details.
It is important that Stripe knows what businesses are selling, in order to make
sure that your transactions abide by our Terms of Service and are appropriately
categorized in the payments ecosystem. We would appreciate if you could please
reply to this email with the following information:
What products or services do you plan to sell through Stripe?
We’d like to learn about your typical customers. Who’s your target audience?
Specifically, could you provide details around products/inventory, pricing, shipping
details, and customer-vetting processes, if applicable?
We have paused payouts to your bank account until we are able to verify what
you’re selling. Once we hear back from you, we will review your information within
24-48 hours. We’ll let you know when we’ve confirmed your business information
and resumed payouts to your account.
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Let's see now - we have Paypal for Marketplaces whose terms are ridiculous,
providing complete control of your funds to the marketplace facilitator and Stripe
who do not seem to be aware that Bricklink is part of Lego now - good choices,
really
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2021 02:41 | | Subject: | Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | BrickLink VAT Changes Due to new EU VAT e-commerce Rules
Dear BrickLink members,
Following the introduction of the new rules for online marketplaces, BrickLink
will enable its VAT collection for goods imported into the European Union (EU)
on July 1, 2021 to comply with the new EU VAT Marketplace rules. Below is an
overview of these changes:
Changes at a glance:
1) EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from non-EU sellers and EU buyers
will see VAT inclusive prices from VAT-registered EU sellers.
2) BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders delivered to EU addresses imported
into their EU Member State from a non-EU country up to a value of €150 (not including
additional costs i.e. shipping insurance, etc.). For orders over €150 imported
to their EU Member State, the seller/buyer may need to pay VAT consistent with
the import country’s standard VAT rate as part of clearing the goods through
customs.
3) EU VAT will be added during the checkout process (where applicable) and at
the receipt of the final invoice and will not be included in the item price.
4) Where BrickLink is responsible for collecting VAT on orders sent to an EU
delivery address, this amount will be shown separately at checkout.
5) EU sellers that sell more than €10,000 of goods within the EU (but excluding
domestic transactions) per year will be required to be VAT registered in each
EU Member State it sells to or will need to register for the One Stop Shop (OSS)
scheme.
What this means for sellers:
1) If you are a non-EU seller and you want to sell goods to EU buyers, you will
need to opt-in to BrickLink’s on-site payment method.
2) In case of refunds, we encourage sellers to use the BrickLink refund feature
to ensure the correct amount of VAT gets refunded. The refund page can be accessed
from the Issue Refund link on the order detail page.
3) Sellers should list the items in their inventory exclusive of VAT and any
other taxes/fees to ensure price consistency in the Price Guide.
More information will be posted on dedicated Help and FAQ pages closer to the
release date.
Thank you,
The BrickLink Team
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Hiya
Although not currently the 'law' for display of vat prices the recommended
practice is shown below.
Sites that sell to both consumers and businesses such as Staples ask the question
when you log on as to whether you wish to see vat inclusive or exclusive prices.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 01:27 | | Subject: | Re: Packing Dimensions - Seller Tools | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | Thanks for the awesome update Russell! I'm looking forward to all the announcements
and especially more emails in the future. Keep up the great work!
I was wondering if the development team had thought about the differences between
European/Asian shipping requirements vs. USA and how that effects the order?
We depend a lot less on the dimensions of an element and primarily on the weight
in part-based selling. The problem arises when the element/part in the catalog
gets listed as volume based (not set, that makes sense) and automatic checkout
no longer works for that element, discouraging people from buying.
Since the team is just really starting to dig into the seller tools and seem
to be taking requests, please consider using different zones based on shippers
location when BL forces an element to the volume based shipping. It causes more
issues stateside (your primary market) by limiting sale of that element via auto-checkout
until dimensions are entered or the seller manually changes it back to weight
based.
We're all just trying to sling our brick as quickly and accurately as possible,
things like changing elements to volume without having dimensions makes that
more difficult. Thank you for your time. 
- Big B
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Hiya Big B
Just ran this on our inventory and came up with 1050 lots - lots of work to do.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2021 01:44 | | Subject: | New UK CN22 | | Viewed: | 117 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| If not registered for VAT what should go in the VAT registration box?
Thanks. Not applicable or not registered - are we allowed to do that? or are
the new silly rules about registering overseas now in effect?
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jun 13, 2021 03:18 | | Subject: | Re: A sad day to say the least | | Viewed: | 97 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | […] and total for the moths wewre between 2000 and 3000. […]
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That's a lot of moths!
I wouldn't necessarily assume this to be indicative of long-term trends,
though. Summer is always slow, and with many countries relaxing COVID-19 restrictions,
I expect this summer to be even slower.
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certainly is 
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jun 11, 2021 09:08 | | Subject: | Paypal issues | | Viewed: | 149 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Not affecting everyone it seems but at least 500 of us in the UK have not been
able to log into Paypal since 0700 this morning. First they told us it was a
security issue, then they changed their mind and said it was an issue with one
of the phone companies and just now they said no chance of it getting fixed today
- try tomorrow. What a way to run a business.
Good grief Charlie Brown.
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