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 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Mar 23, 2020 20:50
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 6285-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6285  Name: Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
* 
6285-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
845 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1989
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Add 1 Part 3024 Black Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Delete 1 Part 3023 Black Plate 1 x 2 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 2562 Brown Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Pirate Flintlock Pistol (Extra)
* Change {11 to 10} Part Black 3024 Plate 1 x 1
* Change {28 to 29} Part Black 3023 Plate 1 x 2
* Change {6 to 5} Part Brown 2562 Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Pirate Flintlock Pistol

Comments from Submitter:
I have deleted my earlier change requests to submit this one, which I feel is more correct. I remember 1977_mauro as someone who was opening sealed sets and making some change requests, and so the parts that I am deleting from this inventory I am also adding as extra parts.

Black Plate 1x1 locations in instructions:

Page 4: x2
Page 10: x4
Page 13: x2
Page 25: x2

Black Plate 1x2 locations in instructions:

Page 4 : x4
Page 7 : x2
Page 9 : x2
Page 10: x2
Page 13: x3
Page 14: x2
Page 17: x2
Page 19: x2
Page 21: x1
Page 23: x2
Page 24: x6
Page 26: x1

Brown Pirate Flintlock Pistol locations in instructions:

Page 27: x2
Page 31: x3
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Mar 20, 2020 00:00
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6273-1
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In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
  In Inventories Requests, WilliamRaine writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6273  Name: Rock Island Refuge
* 
6273-1 (Inv) Rock Island Refuge
349 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Change {5 to 4} Part Brown 2562 Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Pirate Flintlock Pistol

Comments from Submitter:
I can only find evidence of 4 of these pistols per the instruction manual. x1 is held by the imperial officer in the boat, and x3 are held by the pirates on the last page of the book.

As well as that, I can only locate x4 on the cover of the manual, x3 in the hands of the figures and x1 attached to the cannon base.

Perhaps the extra pistol is an extra part, though I have no way of knowing as my set is used.

The change log shows that the fifth pistol has been added by Mauro (1977_mauro)
so we can be sure that at least some copies came with five pistols. I would suggest
to add it as an extra part, I only count four pistols in the instructions and
on the box photos too.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=6273-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1116713

I have noticed the same exact thing with the Black Seas Barracuda, an extra pistol
that Mauro added yet has no place in the set. Wasn't he the guy who was opening
sealed sets and building them?
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 21:58
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7189-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7189  Name: Mill Village Raid
* 
7189-1 (Inv) Mill Village Raid
638 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2011
Sets: Castle: Kingdoms

* Add 1 Part 3680c02 Blue Turntable 2 x 2 Plate, Base with Light Bluish Gray Turntable 2 x 2 Plate, Top (3680 / 3679) (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3680c02 White Turntable 2 x 2 Plate, Base with Light Bluish Gray Turntable 2 x 2 Plate, Top (3680 / 3679) (Counterpart)
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Mar 17, 2020 19:29
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6273  Name: Rock Island Refuge
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6273-1 (Inv) Rock Island Refuge
349 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Change {5 to 4} Part Brown 2562 Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Pirate Flintlock Pistol

Comments from Submitter:
I can only find evidence of 4 of these pistols per the instruction manual. x1 is held by the imperial officer in the boat, and x3 are held by the pirates on the last page of the book.

As well as that, I can only locate x4 on the cover of the manual, x3 in the hands of the figures and x1 attached to the cannon base.

Perhaps the extra pistol is an extra part, though I have no way of knowing as my set is used.
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Mar 17, 2020 19:22
 Subject: Re: Flintlock Pistol in old pirate sets....
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I have
 
Set No: 6273  Name: Rock Island Refuge
* 
6273-1 (Inv) Rock Island Refuge
349 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I
and
 
Set No: 6285  Name: Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
* 
6285-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
845 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1989
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I
and after thoroughly checking the inventory
on the site and building both sets, I have an extra
 
Part No: 2562  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Flintlock Pistol
* 
2562 Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Flintlock Pistol
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
in both sets
that does not appear anywhere in the instructions. I submitted a change request
for 6285-1 though now that I have run into the same exact thing with 6273-1 I
am wondering if this pistol was an extra part in each set, and some other pirate
sets may have included an extra pistol as well?

They may have. I am not certain, since good evidence for these sets is hard to
find.

  If so shouldn't this pistol be listed as "Extra" just like the other extra parts that
come in sealed sets yet are not used?

They should only be listed as extra parts if they were not counted as a piece
in the official part count of the set. Once again, it is hard to determine this
information easily. However, we do try to find as much information as possible
to determine whether to accept change requests or not. You are free to submit
whatever requests you would like, but they may not be accepted right away.

Cheers,
Randy

Thank you for the reply Randy, I appreciate! I do understand how tough it can
be to determine that, given their age and the reluctance to break open a sealed
set. I will go ahead and submit a request for the other set as well.
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 Posted: Mar 17, 2020 17:02
 Subject: Flintlock Pistol in old pirate sets....
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I have
 
Set No: 6273  Name: Rock Island Refuge
* 
6273-1 (Inv) Rock Island Refuge
349 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I
and
 
Set No: 6285  Name: Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
* 
6285-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
845 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1989
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I
and after thoroughly checking the inventory
on the site and building both sets, I have an extra
 
Part No: 2562  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Flintlock Pistol
* 
2562 Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Flintlock Pistol
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
in both sets
that does not appear anywhere in the instructions. I submitted a change request
for 6285-1 though now that I have run into the same exact thing with 6273-1 I
am wondering if this pistol was an extra part in each set, and some other pirate
sets may have included an extra pistol as well? If so shouldn't this pistol
be listed as "Extra" just like the other extra parts that come in sealed sets
yet are not used?
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 Posted: Mar 10, 2020 01:48
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7016-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7016  Name: Viking Boat against the Wyvern Dragon
* 
7016-1 (Inv) Viking Boat against the Wyvern Dragon
99 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2005
Sets: Vikings

* Delete 1 Part x77a Black String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length Type)
* Add 1 Part x77ac50 Black String, Cord Thin 50cm
* Add 1 Part x77ac50 Black String, Cord Thin 50cm (Extra)

Comments from Submitter:
Source: Sealed Set Contents
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 Posted: Mar 8, 2020 20:08
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1873  Name: Pirate Treasure
* 
1873-1 (Inv) Pirate Treasure
42 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1994
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Delete 2 Part 2453 Black Brick 1 x 1 x 5 (Undetermined Stud Type)
* Add 2 Part 2453a Black Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud
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 Posted: Mar 6, 2020 18:17
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 6067-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6067  Name: Guarded Inn
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6067-1 (Inv) Guarded Inn
232 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1986
Sets: Castle: Lion Knights

* Delete 2 Part 3044 Black Slope 45 2 x 1 Double (Undetermined Underside Type)
* Add 2 Part 3044a Black Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - without Inside Bar

Comments from Submitter:
Maybe not a legitimate source, but I have an incomplete used set that appears all original, no signs of anyone changing parts around...similar wear and variation on everything. It contains this variant.
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 Posted: Feb 25, 2020 01:22
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6285  Name: Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
* 
6285-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
845 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1989
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Change {6 to 5} Part Brown 2562 Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Pirate Flintlock Pistol

Comments from Submitter:
I can only find 5 of these per the instructions, please correct me if I am wrong:

Page 27: x2
Page 31: x3
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 Posted: Feb 25, 2020 00:56
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6285  Name: Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
* 
6285-1 (Inv) Black Seas Barracuda (Dark Shark)
845 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1989
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Change {28 to 29} Part Black 3023 Plate 1 x 2
* Change {11 to 10} Part Black 3024 Plate 1 x 1

Comments from Submitter:
There are certainly 29 of the Black Plate 1x2, not 28. Here is a list of the pages this part appears on and the quantities:

Black Plate 1x2
Page 4 : x4
Page 7 : x2
Page 9 : x2
Page 10: x2
Page 13: x3
Page 14: x2
Page 17: x2
Page 19: x2
Page 21: x1
Page 23: x2
Page 24: x6
Page 26: x1

There are also only 10 of the Black Plate 1x1 that I can find, I have looked through the instructions thoroughly and can not find an 11th. Here is the list of the 10 I found:

Page 4: x2
Page 10: x4
Page 13: x2
Page 25: x2
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 Posted: Feb 21, 2020 02:26
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4195  Name: Queen Anne's Revenge
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4195-1 (Inv) Queen Anne's Revenge
1049 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 2 Gear, 2011
Sets: Pirates of the Caribbean

* Change {17 to 19} Part White 3626cpb0001 Minifigure, Head Skull Standard Pattern - Hollow Stud (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
This change is to account for the x2 heads that are a part of the two skeleton minifigures included with the ship. My ship came with a fairly even amount of blocked open stud and hollow stud heads.
 Author: WilliamRaine View Messages Posted By WilliamRaine
 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 22:39
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.

I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?

The inventory should indeed include the "a" type as regular part and the "b"
type as alternate part for both colors. I have submitted the change requests:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=262880&nID=1176544

Thank you for doing that!
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 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 19:07
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 9463  Name: The Werewolf
* 
9463-1 (Inv) The Werewolf
236 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2012
Sets: Monster Fighters

* Delete 3 Part 3794 Dark Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (match ID 2)
* Delete 1 Part 3794 Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (match ID 3)
* Add 1 Part 3794a Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper) (match ID 3)
* Change 3 Part Dark Red 3794b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper) {Alternate to Regular}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: Sealed Set Contents, cleaning up undetermined types.
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 Posted: Jan 25, 2020 18:57
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4183  Name: The Mill
* 
4183-1 (Inv) The Mill
349 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1 Gear, 2011
Sets: Pirates of the Caribbean

* Delete 8 Part 2453 Dark Bluish Gray Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 2453a Dark Bluish Gray Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 3794 Reddish Brown Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 3794a Reddish Brown Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper) (match ID 2)

Comments from Submitter:
Source: Sealed Set Contents, cleaning up undetermined types
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4181  Name: Isla De Muerta
* 
4181-1 (Inv) Isla De Muerta
139 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1 Gear, 2011
Sets: Pirates of the Caribbean

* Delete 2 Part 3684 Dark Bluish Gray Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Undetermined Stud Type (match ID 6)
* Add 2 Part 3684a Dark Bluish Gray Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 - Hollow Studs (match ID 6)
* Delete 2 Part 3794 Pearl Gold Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (match ID 5)
* Add 2 Part 3794a Pearl Gold Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper) (match ID 5)
* Add 1 Part 3626cpb0558 Light Flesh Minifigure, Head PotC Hector Barbossa Ragged Brown Beard Pattern - Hollow Stud (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
Source: Sealed Set Contents, fixing up undetermined parts
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In Inventories, BLUSER13161 writes:
  In Inventories, WilliamRaine writes:
  I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant.

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the inventory page:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=7038-1

you will see the following sentence:

View a log of completed changes made to this inventory.

Clicking there will display the history of changes made to this set's inventory.

  Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?

According to BrickLink's timeline the flag change happened roughly around
2008, which is the year this set was released. So it's quite possible that
some 7038-1 sets came with left flags, some came with right flags, and some came
with both.

I see, I see. Thank you for the information. Since the flag change happened that
year, would it be correct to submit a change request for the flags and list the
"wave left" variant as the regular part since it appears that way in the instructions
and part list, and the "wave right" variant as an alternate item, do you think?
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 Posted: Jan 23, 2020 22:40
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I am replacing a few parts on set 7038-1 Troll Assault Wagon and noticed the
two flags included are listed as different variants....the dark blue is lefted
as "wave left" and the pearl gold as "wave right"

My set has the opposite style flags, and the instructions clearly show both flags
as the "wave left" variant. Is this a mistake in the inventory, or did the set
really come with both flags pointing in different directions?