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 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Feb 22, 2021 03:56
 Subject: Re: Brexit
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 Topic: Suggestions
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calsbricks (8513)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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Aug 12, 2008 Contact Member Seller
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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
  Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:

If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"


It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.

From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"


Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?

Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".

http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/

These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.

The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.

All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.

So, what does the seller's invoice look like?

The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com

If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK) then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.

Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Feb 22, 2021 03:38
 Subject: Re: Brexit
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Stellar (3503)

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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
  Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:

If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"


It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.

From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"


Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?

Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".

http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/

These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.

The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.

All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.

So, what does the seller's invoice look like?

Like this:
 
 Author: leggodtshop View Messages Posted By leggodtshop
 Posted: Feb 22, 2021 02:40
 Subject: Re: Brexit
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Location:  Netherlands, Overijssel
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
  Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:

If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"


It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.

From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"


Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?

Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".

http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/

These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.

The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.

All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.

So, what does the seller's invoice look like?

The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
 Author: Ladyandabrick View Messages Posted By Ladyandabrick
 Posted: Feb 21, 2021 23:37
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 41378-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests (Entry)
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Location:  Australia, Victoria
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 41378  Name: Dolphins Rescue Mission
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41378-1 (Inv) Dolphins Rescue Mission
351 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Friends

* Add 2 Part 18910pb004 White Panel 3 x 4 x 3 Curved with Double Clip Hinge with Dark Turquoise Heart Shaped Porthole Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41378 (Counterpart)
 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
 Posted: Feb 21, 2021 21:17
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7676-1
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Those are Black



In Inventories Requests, ameupher writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7676  Name: Republic Attack Gunship
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7676-1 (Inv) Republic Attack Gunship
1004 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars The Clone Wars

* Add 5 Part 3794 Dark Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud, Jumper (Undetermined Bottom Type)

Comments from Submitter:
This is not in the set inventory at the back of book two but it is on book 2 page 42 Step 19 subassembly
 

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