Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Shintaku  | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 05:14 | | Subject: | Incomplete/Complete on MINIFIGURES also | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
|
| The title explains it all.
A lot of minifigures sales data are influenced by the fact there are people selling
them without a part. I would like to have the same option sets have.
|
 |
| Author: | Shintaku | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 05:13 | | Subject: | Re: Improve=FIX Last 6 Months Sales average price | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, Autour writes:
| | Improve (read: FIX) Last 6 Months Sales average price
Last 6 Months Sales price for NEW reflects all NEW items, so also the incomplete
ones. This is a huge perturbation of the real average price for NEW SEALED sets
and should IMHO be fixed asap.
E.g. 75978 Diagon Alley shows an average of +/- 185 euro for NEW.
|
Why not just click the EXCLUDE INCOMPLETE box.
|
I agree with the OP.
The default for every user should be the COMPLETE and the box should show "INCLUDE
INCOMPLETE".
|
|
| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 04:51 | | Subject: | Re: Please improve min average lot explanation | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | Again, can Bricklink please do something about the way the mininum average lot
value is explained to the buyer? I am getting many messages about it and find
myself explaining the same thing over and over. Please improve these descriptions
in the interface. Maybe by including an example, and by changing the terminology.
As is evident from many forum posts as well, many fresh buyers don't even
know what a "lot" is supposed to mean, let alone they will understand the concept
of minimum average lot value.
|
I agree. It's been a reoccurring expressed confusion for some time.
Start with a more concise definition of the term "lot" and it's specific
applications for both buyer and seller on BL.
I also like your idea of suggestions as examples in a popup window. Examples
tend to paint picture in our minds for a more visceral understanding, and why
we use them.
-popsicle
|
|
| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 04:46 | | Subject: | Re: Improve=FIX Last 6 Months Sales average price | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, Autour writes:
| | Improve (read: FIX) Last 6 Months Sales average price
Last 6 Months Sales price for NEW reflects all NEW items, so also the incomplete
ones. This is a huge perturbation of the real average price for NEW SEALED sets
and should IMHO be fixed asap.
E.g. 75978 Diagon Alley shows an average of +/- 185 euro for NEW.
|
Why not just click the EXCLUDE INCOMPLETE box.
|
|
| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 04:44 | | Subject: | Re: Please improve min average lot explanation | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| | | I would rather BL take this away altogether. You already have minimum buys to
avoid small orders, you can already set a minimum lot quantity for purchase.
Why give an impression that an item can ship by itself, when you as the seller
is not willing to sell it like that? It confuses buyers when sellers willfully
shows prices for goods they are not willing to sell at.
|
That doesn't always help though.
If a store has a $10 minimum and a $1 lot average, then a buyer can buy a $10
item plus another 9 1c items and checkout.
If they have just a $10 minimum, then another buyer can buy 1000 different 1c
items. What a terrible order to pick. Of course, a seller can bag those 1c items
up to sell in quantities of 100, with a $10 minimum. So now a buyer can buy 10
bags of 100 parts but hav no choice to buy less if that is all they need.
But what if the buyer only wants one cheap item to go along with their expensive
part? They are forced to buy 100 of the cheap part even though they only want
one, or not buy that part at all.
I have a minimum lot value and a store minimum but I frequently sell low numbers
of cheap parts to those people that are also buying more expensive parts. I don't
mind those orders. However, I don't want orders that are for many different
low priced parts, even if they meet the order minimum. The minimum lot value
stops those.
|
|
| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 04:39 | | Subject: | Re: Please improve min average lot explanation | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
|
|
...
| |
Trouble is, I wouldn't use it if it wasn't necessary - I just get flooded
with tiny lots if I don't use it. My pay per hour would make a huge drop.
In my own webshop I am not able to set such a minimum, and sometimes that really
gets me the "order from hell" that sucks up all the time of the day that I planned
to use for 10 other orders on my list, for only €50 pay. Not fun for me and not
fun for the other 10 buyers.
|
Not fun or particular good use of time for a buyer to sit for two hours and still
cannot checkout either. I've had some of these where I sit for 30 minutes
and then go what the hell, let me buy everything in the store. Then I still cannot
checkout, because I still have not met the minimum lot average. I agree you need
a happy medium, but your pay per hour is dependent on your selling price less
overheads, not on buyers seeing listings at prices you are not willing to sell
at.
| |
On the one hand, I fully understand that from an interface point of view it is
not really good (you do not get immediate feedback), on the other hand it's
simply necessary for me to do business. So we best look into ways of making the
interface help out as good as possible.
|
On the balance of averages, does it help when buyers contact you and you explain
it to them better than BL does? In other words, do you close the sale to that
particular buyer once you have answered his question and do you get a return
for the effort you made to assist the buyer to checkout? Or do you never hear
from the buyer again?
| |
| | Rather suggest, if sellers really want to use this, that the quantities the buyer
wants cannot be added to the cart unless the minimum average is met automatically.
That way the cart is managed for the buyer and nobody has to know the why and
the wherefores of why an item cannot be bought for the price it is listed at.
|
Good suggestion, can't really decide right away whether this would be good
or bad, but it's definitely good to write such ideas down and investigate
them. (I guess the downside would be that your first lot immediately needs to
meet the criterium, which is unfortunate if you came for a small plate but also
plan to add a minifig).
|
Then your terms were not read
| | A colour marking in the cart of which lots are below
the threshold might also help.
|
Possibly, as long as the buyer knows immediately that there is some difference
and do not like, at present, either have to keep a running total in the head
or toggle between the store and the cart incessantly. In countries like my own
where data is expensive, this adds insult to an already horrible shopping experience.
| |
Whatever improves the interface to make the buying experience more positive,
I'm all for it, so it's good to keep these ideas coming.
|
|
|
| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 04:36 | | Subject: | Re: Please improve min average lot explanation | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, M_R writes:
| | In Suggestions, bje writes:
| |
Rather suggest, if sellers really want to use this, that the quantities the buyer
wants cannot be added to the cart unless the minimum average is met automatically.
That way the cart is managed for the buyer and nobody has to know the why and
the wherefores of why an item cannot be bought for the price it is listed at.
|
But that would lead to other problems. Like Teup wrote about the first
item has to be over the minimum average. And the orders real minimum average
isn´t calculated until the buyer has filled the cart with all the things he/she
wants so having a block on adding lover priced items, and without explaination,
will cause even more frustration. The only way around that suggestion is to make
the buyr add the items in the "right" order - most expensive lot first and downwards
until they´re add the minimum average limit, a block there would work. But it
seems highly unlikely that it is an easy and good way to solve the "problem"
at hand.
|
Very true. Maybe an alternative is to have a warning sign like a red triangle
with a ! in it in the cart to show that you will not be able to checkout with
the current cart if you do not meet minimum order values, minimum lot values,
and so on.
|
|
| Author: | M_R | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 04:24 | | Subject: | Re: Please improve min average lot explanation | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| |
Rather suggest, if sellers really want to use this, that the quantities the buyer
wants cannot be added to the cart unless the minimum average is met automatically.
That way the cart is managed for the buyer and nobody has to know the why and
the wherefores of why an item cannot be bought for the price it is listed at.
|
But that would lead to other problems. Like Teup wrote about the first
item has to be over the minimum average. And the orders real minimum average
isn´t calculated until the buyer has filled the cart with all the things he/she
wants so having a block on adding lover priced items, and without explaination,
will cause even more frustration. The only way around that suggestion is to make
the buyr add the items in the "right" order - most expensive lot first and downwards
until they´re add the minimum average limit, a block there would work. But it
seems highly unlikely that it is an easy and good way to solve the "problem"
at hand.
|
|
| Author: | Autour | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 04:10 | | Subject: | Improve=FIX Last 6 Months Sales average price | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
|
| Improve (read: FIX) Last 6 Months Sales average price
Last 6 Months Sales price for NEW reflects all NEW items, so also the incomplete
ones. This is a huge perturbation of the real average price for NEW SEALED sets
and should IMHO be fixed asap.
E.g. 75978 Diagon Alley shows an average of +/- 185 euro for NEW.
|
|
|
| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 18, 2020 04:10 | | Subject: | Re: Please improve min average lot explanation | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | Again, can Bricklink please do something about the way the mininum average lot
value is explained to the buyer? I am getting many messages about it and find
myself explaining the same thing over and over. Please improve these descriptions
in the interface. Maybe by including an example, and by changing the terminology.
As is evident from many forum posts as well, many fresh buyers don't even
know what a "lot" is supposed to mean, let alone they will understand the concept
of minimum average lot value.
|
Walk into store to buy bread, get to till, no you MUST buy 1 kilogram of fillet
steak as well so that the average price of the goods you buy is more than what
the bread costs, which is the only thing you need. Leave bread, walk out.
It does not matter how good you explain it, buyers do not understand how you
have an item on the shelf you are not willing to sell for the price you are advertising
it at, or for which you need a degree in mathematics to work out how many you
must put in a cart before you can, well, pay for it at checkout.
I would rather BL take this away altogether. You already have minimum buys to
avoid small orders, you can already set a minimum lot quantity for purchase.
Why give an impression that an item can ship by itself, when you as the seller
is not willing to sell it like that? It confuses buyers when sellers willfully
shows prices for goods they are not willing to sell at.
|
Trouble is, I wouldn't use it if it wasn't necessary - I just get flooded
with tiny lots if I don't use it. My pay per hour would make a huge drop.
In my own webshop I am not able to set such a minimum, and sometimes that really
gets me the "order from hell" that sucks up all the time of the day that I planned
to use for 10 other orders on my list, for only €50 pay. Not fun for me and not
fun for the other 10 buyers.
On the one hand, I fully understand that from an interface point of view it is
not really good (you do not get immediate feedback), on the other hand it's
simply necessary for me to do business. So we best look into ways of making the
interface help out as good as possible.
| | Rather suggest, if sellers really want to use this, that the quantities the buyer
wants cannot be added to the cart unless the minimum average is met automatically.
That way the cart is managed for the buyer and nobody has to know the why and
the wherefores of why an item cannot be bought for the price it is listed at.
|
Good suggestion, can't really decide right away whether this would be good
or bad, but it's definitely good to write such ideas down and investigate
them. (I guess the downside would be that your first lot immediately needs to
meet the criterium, which is unfortunate if you came for a small plate but also
plan to add a minifig). A colour marking in the cart of which lots are below
the threshold might also help.
Whatever improves the interface to make the buying experience more positive,
I'm all for it, so it's good to keep these ideas coming.
|
|
Next Page: 5 More | 10 More | 25 More | 50 More | 100 More
|
Italy, Lombardia
USA, Washington
United Kingdom, England
South Africa, Western Cape
Sweden, Södermanland
France, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
Netherlands, Utrecht