Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | May 28, 2020 07:50 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8558-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, cwedin writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 78c13 Pearl Dark Gray Hose, Ribbed 7mm D. 13L (Alternate) (match ID 106621)
Comments from Submitter:
I parted out "8558 Cahdok & Gahdok," and it had four Pearl Dark Gray 78c13 hoses (with 41 ribs) rather than the 78c12 hoses stated on the parts list.
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Mine are short of 13L, but closer to 13 than 12. I have always had these hoses
err long rather than short, but it is true that this one is closer to 13 than
12.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 28, 2020 05:52 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8558-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, cwedin writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 78c13 Pearl Dark Gray Hose, Ribbed 7mm D. 13L (Alternate) (match ID 106621)
Comments from Submitter:
I parted out "8558 Cahdok & Gahdok," and it had four Pearl Dark Gray 78c13 hoses (with 41 ribs) rather than the 78c12 hoses stated on the parts list.
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For what it is worth, mine from that set are also 41 ribs, but I apparently found
them within the slushy range that gets called 12L. I can't go measure them
at the moment.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 27, 2020 05:46 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5133-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part x77ac15 Black String, Cord Thin 15cm (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 2447 Trans-Light Blue Minifigure, Visor Standard (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Change 1 Part Black {3962 Minifigure, Utensil Radio (Undetermined Handle Type) to 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle}
* Change 1 Part Black {x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length Type) to x77ac15 String, Cord Thin 15cm}
* Change 1 Part {Trans-Dark Blue to Trans-Light Blue} 2447 Minifigure, Visor Standard
* Change 1 Part {Trans-Yellow to Yellow} 4073 Plate, Round 1 x 1
Comments from Submitter:
Not doing alternates because it appears this inventory was done from that picture there.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 27, 2020 05:45 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 5133-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part x77ac15 Black String, Cord Thin 15cm (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 2447 Trans-Light Blue Minifigure, Visor Standard (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4073 Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Change 1 Part Black {3962 Minifigure, Utensil Radio (Undetermined Handle Type) to 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle}
* Change 1 Part Black {x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length Type) to x77ac15 String, Cord Thin 15cm}
* Change 1 Part {Trans-Dark Blue to Trans-Light Blue} 2447 Minifigure, Visor Standard
* Change 1 Part {Trans-Yellow to Yellow} 4073 Plate, Round 1 x 1
Comments from Submitter:
Not doing alternates because it appears this inventory was done from that picture there.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 26, 2020 13:22 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8440-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | Now we have a situation where some set inventories, particularly educational
sets, contain items that would properly be considered original boxes or original
instructions. Because sets boxes have variants (different box sizes, different
printing, etc.) and set instructions have variants (1 or 2 booklets, different
sizes, different languages, etc.) , the ideal solution would be to stop tying
boxes and instructions entries to sets.
However, that would require adding tens of thousands of new catalog entries for
original boxes and set instructions. It would also require rewriting the site
code and working with sellers to get items for sale moved to new catalog entries.
Or, put differently, it's way too much work to undo 20 years later.
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There is perhaps a middle road here. Most sets have a box that is consistent
and well covered by the system Dan set up. Dacta sets, at least since mid-90s
do not. There is no original box for these sets. The original box entry could
be taken away from just them.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 26, 2020 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8440-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I just try to go by what I think someone might want to buy. I discard the boxes
from my vintage sets, but I usually keep sorting trays like this. They are very
useful for my catalog work and my business. I have a steady influx of them,
so I needn't buy one, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone wanted it.
And I am not sure if you bought the box for 8440-1 that you could be sure you
would get this item with it.
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Hi
I have the innertray from set 8266. (will add it later)
Found this number:
4112766 and there is also 8266/2
What number do you have?
And does it also come with 8440/2?
Stefaan
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8440/1 169713
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 26, 2020 10:31 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8440-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| I just try to go by what I think someone might want to buy. I discard the boxes
from my vintage sets, but I usually keep sorting trays like this. They are very
useful for my catalog work and my business. I have a steady influx of them,
so I needn't buy one, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone wanted it.
And I am not sure if you bought the box for 8440-1 that you could be sure you
would get this item with it.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 25, 2020 19:00 | | Subject: | Re: Porg 4 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, andyhamp writes:
| | Porg head part No. 20952pb02 is the incorrect version for Porg4, the inventory
shows this part Number but the images clearly show it is a different version
of the head. I messaged Bricklink after getting a complaint from a buyer but
no changes have been made. Can anyone help.
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You are right. I did the incorrect inventory and you can see the difference
in my catalog pic. But I cannot help, since I didn't keep one.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 25, 2020 09:29 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8440-1 | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Gear 169713 Yellow Technic Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment - Set 8440
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 22, 2020 22:55 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 75928-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Brixalotl writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brixalotl writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 42876 Dark Orange Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 2 Part 34337 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Slot (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part Dark Orange 33057 Turkey Drumstick, 20mm with Round Opening on Back {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray 4624 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm {match ID 0 to 2}
Comments from Submitter:
found variants during part out, thanks
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We were unaware of both of these newer variants when I inventoried the set and
I didn't keep any pieces. I would support just replacing them, as it is
likely they were always the newer ones. If someone finds the old ones we could
always add them back.
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I would have said so as well, but I actually found both variants of each part
during the part out process.
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Oh.. I mean, yeah, I was totally in control the whole time.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 22, 2020 19:25 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 75928-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Brixalotl writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 42876 Dark Orange Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 2 Part 34337 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Slot (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part Dark Orange 33057 Turkey Drumstick, 20mm with Round Opening on Back {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray 4624 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm {match ID 0 to 2}
Comments from Submitter:
found variants during part out, thanks
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We were unaware of both of these newer variants when I inventoried the set and
I didn't keep any pieces. I would support just replacing them, as it is
likely they were always the newer ones. If someone finds the old ones we could
always add them back.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 21:07 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4562-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| This is the only useful pic I could find among my reference pics. You can't
count them, but you can definitely tell that there are more than 6 each of the
blue and red 3003.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 8 Part 3003 Blue Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 3003 Red Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 41855 Blue Brick, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 Two Studs, Lip End (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 8 Part Trans-Dark Blue 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 8 Part Trans-Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Red 3039 Slope 45 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I have deleted my previous requests on this set and am doing it a different way.
- On the blue and red bricks, this variance is what I have found when I parted out two sets before and again when I parted out 1 yesterday.
- I was missing the trans-red slopes before and again and last time I didn't know what to balance them with, but this time the blue 41855 (and maybe/probably last time as well, I don't know) were in the bag with the regular parts, not the floor sweepings, so I think they alternate each other.
-I will also record here that when I parted out two sets before, I only got 2 yellow 3005pe1, not 4 and this time when I parted out one set I didn't get any of them. I suspect that this piece belongs in the extras, but I have no handy proof. I am making these requests from work and it now occurs to me that I may have pictures of the unopened bags last time that would shed some light on this. I will check later.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 16:36 | | Subject: | Re: Is dual color mold really decorated? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | Should dual molded legs or arms in their respective assemblies really be considered
as decorated?
To me BL considered the decorated as by means of printing or applying decoration
using stickers.
example
the reasoning is, how is that any different from legs assembly with single color
legs but different color hips or mismatched leg colors?
I feel the same way about dual molded arms
There are reasons for not separating them, mainly for new buyers not knowing
or caring about the difference or just the general way of looking at it, but
I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.
Any thoughts?
Miro
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I support the change. Also the pics you posted are lovely.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 21, 2020 09:27 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4562-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 8 Part 3003 Blue Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 3003 Red Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 41855 Blue Brick, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 Two Studs, Lip End (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 8 Part Trans-Dark Blue 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 8 Part Trans-Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Red 3039 Slope 45 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
I have deleted my previous requests on this set and am doing it a different way.
- On the blue and red bricks, this variance is what I have found when I parted out two sets before and again when I parted out 1 yesterday.
- I was missing the trans-red slopes before and again and last time I didn't know what to balance them with, but this time the blue 41855 (and maybe/probably last time as well, I don't know) were in the bag with the regular parts, not the floor sweepings, so I think they alternate each other.
-I will also record here that when I parted out two sets before, I only got 2 yellow 3005pe1, not 4 and this time when I parted out one set I didn't get any of them. I suspect that this piece belongs in the extras, but I have no handy proof. I am making these requests from work and it now occurs to me that I may have pictures of the unopened bags last time that would shed some light on this. I will check later.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:54 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore.
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If we had perfect knowledge, I am sure we would find that other sets had light
gray also. But most of those sets were opened and built and then went to garage
sales and trash cans. The ones that actually get opened and investigated are
a small sample. I have a vintage set on the way that has never been inventoried
before. And plenty of other sets haven't been verified or haven't been
parted out a lot by people who correct inventories.
Manufacturing pieces is one operation and packing sets is another operation and
the people or machines who pack the sets use the parts they have on hand.
It is clear from sets like 9797 and the Star Destroyer that set packers considered
LG and LBG to be the interchangeable until the time came that there were no more
LG parts in the bins. Hygrotus pulled a variant piece from a new set last year
that hadn't been seen in a new set in something like a decade. 32064c should
phase out somewhere around 2005, but Turez found one in a 2008 set. Because
some facility that packs sets still had some.
Frequently when entering PCCs on new pieces, I find something like (I am making
these specific numbers up!) most new PCCs we've been entering for months
are like 6301111 and 6301333 and then a new hair piece comes out with 6271222.
Sets are designed long before they are announced and released and there is no
reason to assume that a piece that didn't get released until 2006 wasn't
produced a few years earlier in some quantities. Some of the Dots elements were
made for Dots and then they decided not to release Dots and some of the pieces
made their way into sets last year. Then they decided to release Dots a year
later. They used those pieces in other sets because they had been manufactured
and were just sitting there. Similarly, LG 56145 may have been produced for
a set that didn't get released and then when they started making the piece
in LBG they used up the LG too. Or maybe when they develop a new part that they
want to start putting in sets, they start manufacturing it in the most obvious
colors, but by the time a designer put it in a set, they had changed over the
LBG, but still had the LG. We really don't know. But I promise you that
I can tell the difference between them and I found what I found. I have not
parted out 20 9797s. But I have parted out 8 of them from 5 different sources.
I have found all 3 heads and both kinds of hats and both kinds of light grays.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:23 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.
I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore. I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time. In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).
I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.
If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.
A little more information about the configuration of 9797 sets:
Items 41752 and 41753 were included only in the set of 2006, in the future (2009
and 2012) rubbers lay in cardboard boxes.
Part bb0273 could only be included in the 2006 kit along with the x1678 battery.
Part bb0527 could only be included in the 2009 and 2012 set along with the 87662c01
battery.
Regards
Alexei
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That hat color is known here as Brittle Blue. You can search that on the forum
to find out more.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:31 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
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I bought my 10030 a year after I decided to because I had to wait until I got
a bonus at work. It arrived in LBG. I had never seen LBG before and I hated
it.
I have gotten used to LBG by now. I do like LG better. But on the Star Destroyer,
LBG just isn't right.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:15 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260780
In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
Alexei
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
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Sealed sets, very nice Light Gray, not yellowy Light Bluish Gray.
| | If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006.
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And sets routinely come with older variant pieces that were no longer in production
when the set was produced.
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at all in the Light Gray color.
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What I am telling you is that they did. I have seen them and I sold them in
January.
| | Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
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I have seen it several times in Dacta Technic/Mindstorm sets.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 18, 2020 16:56 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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