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 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 21, 2018 16:31
 Subject: Re: Projectile Launcher
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  OK. I assumed it existed already as these types of symbiotic relationships are
already used for windows, doors, wheels, etc. But obviously I don't know
the code so didn't realise they are different types of relationships.

You can learn more about item relationships here (click Definitions for further
information):

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRel.asp

I almost want to use the 'Paired Part' relationship for projectile launchers
and projectiles. The hinge parts would almost fit as well, except the definition
specifically says it's for parts that aren't normally attached to each
other. Projectiles and projectile launchers aren't really 'attached'
though, at least for the definition of 'attached' that I normally think
of. It's just that pesky sentence at the end that seems to exclude the projectile
launchers.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 16, 2018 06:00
 Subject: Re: 3626cpb2105 duplicate of 3626cpb0595?
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Admiral_Brick writes:
  Duplicate catalog entry?

 
Part No: 3626cpb0595  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Child Black Eyebrows, Dark Orange Freckles, Smile / Sad Frown Pattern - Hollow Stud
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3626cpb0595 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Child Black Eyebrows, Dark Orange Freckles, Smile / Sad Frown Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb2105  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Child Black Eyebrows, Reddish Brown Freckles, Smile / Sad Frown Pattern - Hollow Stud
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3626cpb2105 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Child Black Eyebrows, Reddish Brown Freckles, Smile / Sad Frown Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Kind regards,

Matthias

At first I wanted to say 'yes', but then I looked at the freckles. The
freckles appear to be different colors on the two heads based on those images.
I don't have either of them to compare, though, so that may be just me seeing
things. I wouldn't get the two entries merged until someone that has both
heads can compare them side by side.

Cheers,
Randy

I have both minifig heads (the flesh one from the Jurassic Park set, the yellow
from the Ferris Wheel) and while they are very similar, they do look like different
patterns to me. The freckles on the flesh head appear to be a smaller diameter
(about half the size) of the freckles on the yellow head. The only way I can
think of putting it differently would be if the freckles were a font, the flesh
head would be the 'normal' and the yellow head would be 'bold'.
:/

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 15, 2018 16:11
 Subject: Re: Fifth Catalog Project Underway
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  
 
Part No: 792c02  Name: Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with Round Top Hole with Arm (792 / 793 / 795)
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792c02 (Inv) Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with Round Top Hole with Arm (792 / 793 / 795)
Parts: Arm
Red
Black

 
Part No: 792c03  Name: Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with Round Top Hole with Arms (792 / 793 / 795) (Homemaker Figure / Maxifigure Torso Assembly)
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792c03 (Inv) Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with Round Top Hole with Arms (792 / 793 / 795) (Homemaker Figure / Maxifigure Torso Assembly)
Parts: Arm
Light Gray

 
Part No: 792c01  Name: Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with 2 Rectangle Holes with Arm (792 / 794 / 795)
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792c01 (Inv) Arm Holder Brick 2 x 2 with 2 Rectangle Holes with Arm (792 / 794 / 795)
Parts: Arm
White
Blue

These ones are actually interesting to me. Since they are an assembly, it's
entirely possible to open the casing and add/remove a piece to create each of
these in the respective colors. Not sure if that makes any difference though.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 15, 2018 16:07
 Subject: Re: Sixth Catalog Project Underway
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In Catalog, bje writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  The sixth project is to review all of the existing additional catalog notes:
 
Part No: 3002oldpb03  Name: Brick 2 x 3 with 'Spirit of St. Louis' Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Sets 456-1 / 661-1
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3002oldpb03 Brick 2 x 3 with 'Spirit of St. Louis' Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Sets 456-1 / 661-1
Parts: Brick, Decorated
Split entries for consistency with other L and R parts

I think there might be some confusion here. This is one part with a sticker on
either side, not a left and right part. The 'left' and 'right'
on the images makes it sound weird, it really should be 'front' and 'back',
if anything. The 'left' and 'right' only make sense in relation
to the completed model.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 12, 2018 22:12
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1882-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Generally profound insights

Here is a picture.

I am disappointed. I was expecting a picture of an eel...



Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 12, 2018 18:20
 Subject: Re: Fourth Catalog Project Underway
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  I understand completely all the things you say. The one thing the vol admins
can control is the description. And that is why, in absence of the ability to
change anything else, comprehensive, consistent, and thorough labeling conventions
applied uniformly across the catalog will improve the search results.

The downside of that are these descriptions that run on for two hundred words,
can be redundant and otherwise clumsy and/or inelegant.

If nobody wants to be bothered implementing some of my suggestions, I’m fine
with it.

If you want to label the backhead printed items as such, even if there is no
benefit to that, I’m fine with it.

Some suggestions that have been presented, all with honorable intentions, can’t
be implemented. I get that.

So where does any of this discussion get us? Kind of seems like, ultimately,
things are just getting rearranged for the sake of rearranging them. It seems
like all that’s getting done is constantly patching holes in the tires where
it would make more sense to remove the damned nails from the driveway.

This is, at least in part, one great exercise in futility, is it not?

As I come to this conclusion, I wonder why I have bothered. I guess I thought
my experience might be helpful. But maybe it just doesn't matter.

I kind of feel the same way you do. To me, the most important part of BrickLink
is the catalog. It's not the part that directly makes money though, so I
can see why it's less important to the powers that be. Doesn't make it
any more disheartening to hear though.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 9, 2018 04:44
 Subject: Re: Fourth Catalog Project Underway
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

  Changing titles of certain dual-sided heads to reflect this fact and splitting
heads into single-side print and dual-side print categories.


My take: I think these are good ideas, but am always willing to listen to dissenters.

Splitting decorated/non-decorated minifigure legs.

My take: This one was not on the list for the original project, but I'm adding
it. There are over 1,400 items in the Minifig, Legs Assembly category and I
find it exceedingly difficult to find non-decorated legs in all that mess. Does
anyone else besides me feel like this would be a good split?

These are the two that I am most in favor of, as they would most impact me as
a buyer. The others I don't have a real opinion of one way or the other.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 14:13
 Subject: Re: Second Catalog Project Underway
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  Couldn't they just have their own separate categories: ghosts and skeletons?

The short answer is yes. However, if you look at the minifigure overview page
you'll notice that minifigures are categorized by theme:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogTree.asp?itemBrand=1000&itemType=M

They're not categorized by what they are, but by which theme they came from
(generally speaking - there are inconsistencies). So there are Town: City: Hospital
and Town: City: Airport but not Town: Doctor or Town: Pilot or Town: Plumber.

Creating new categories Ghost and Skeleton would be contrary to the current cataloging
system. I'm not saying it is a bad idea, but it would increase inconsistency
in the catalog. The other option for ghosts and skeletons would be to move them
into the individual themes from which they came (since my idea of Halloween doesn't
seem too popular).

In response to axaday's suggestion about moving zombies, I say look at this
page of zombies:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=M&q=zombie&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&searchMethod=searchBoth

If we moved all the zombies into one place we'd be pulling them from these
categories:

Minecraft
Star Wars
Pirates of the Caribbean
Game
Scooby-Doo
Monster Fighters
Collectible Minifigures
Ghostbusters
Holiday

Once we did that, those categories would no longer be complete because that is
not the way minifigures are categorized. I thought it would be nice to keep
the ghosts and skeletons together, but I guess they really should be moved into
the themes from which they came (as nearly as possible). So that's the new
plan if no one objects.

It does seem like the only real option is to move each figure into it's 'source'
category. It's unfortunate that these type of figures (which can span categories)
can't belong to multiple categories, but that's a huge can of worms.

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Nov 4, 2018 00:53
 Subject: Re: Second Catalog Project Underway
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

  
  Power Bursts - move to Minifigure, Utensil

The consensus here was a new category titled Effect. Not a bad idea, but it
seems like it would be hard to understand. Even Power Effect seems questionable,
though better. It would be great if we could come up with a title to describe
all forms of effects (waves, flames, power bolts, etc.) and group them all together
as suggested.

I thought Plasma Effect would be perfect, but Wikipedia tells me that flame is
not a plasma. So what about Plasma / Gas Effect? Still no mention of flame
in the title, though, which some wanted to see. Open to suggestions and am hoping
for some along these lines.


  Waves - create new category titled Wave

See Plasma Effect above.


What about 'Elemental Effects' for these? They're sometimes used
for lightning, flames, and water, so that kind of fits...

Josh
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Oct 31, 2018 16:39
 Subject: Re: Second Catalog Project Underway
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Here's the plan: I'm going to post back here later today with all my
proposed changes (I may have to take this in steps) and give people a chance
to comment.

If you do have a comment/suggestion on where these parts are going, please suggest
an alternative location. Before you comment, look at the situation carefully
and present a good argument about why the proposed category is inappropriate.

Parts:

Beehive - move to Cone

I think 'Animal - Air' might be better for this, but that's just
a thought.

  Spiral Pole - move to Hose

My first thought on this was that it should go to Axle, but Hose is probably
a better fit.

  Waves - create new category titled Wave

This one has me conflicted. There's a number of these Wave items that should
be in 'Minfig - Utensil' but others should not. Is it better to keep
them all together in a new category, or split them based on common usage?

Josh

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