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seen a lot of good features from goatleg by 62bricks but i am less likely to
use them when they are on a separate site.

so if admin could please integrate these features into bricklink advanced search
somehow, or give 62bricks the authority to start implementing the features himself
here since he seems very knowledgeable about coding

Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 31, 2015 15:35

Subject:

Re: Add price guide setting - links at top

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In Suggestions, therobo writes:

In Suggestions, blackballoon writes:

Please add a setting to the price guide settings that would allow the user to
have the links "Add to My Inventory" and "Add to my wanted list" not just at
the bottom as they are currently, but also at the Top as well. Would be really
helpful since it is a hassle sometimes having to scroll down really far just
to get to those links

Does your "End" key not work

Are you referring to the "End" key that does not exist on my iPad ?

Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 31, 2015 15:03

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Add price guide setting - links at top

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Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 23, 2015 15:26

Subject:

Re: Add 'Customs Fraud' to option to cancel order

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In Suggestions, kzinti writes:

Is a law any less a law because you don't agree with it? I concur that a
witch hunt is not called for, however, could we simply agree that it is illegal
and that Buyers should stop asking?

US Code Title 13 Chapter 9 Section 305: Penalties for unlawful export information
activities:

(a) CRIMINAL PENALTIES.—
(1) FAILURE TO FILE; SUBMISSION OF FALSE OR
MISLEADING INFORMATION.—Any person who
knowingly fails to file or knowingly submits
false or misleading export information
through the Shippers Export Declaration
(SED) (or any successor document) or the
Automated Export System (AES) shall be subject
to a fine not to exceed $10,000 per violation
or imprisonment for not more than 5
years, or both

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2010-title13/pdf/USCODE-2010-title13-chap9.pdf

Completely irrelevant for nearly all bricklink transactions. Notice they refer
to the SED (Shippers Export Declaration). This is for commercial shipments over
$2,500, and much, much higher value than that usually. An "export" here is referring
to the kind of exports that typically require formal Port entry, for example
giant crates of iPhomes coming in from China. Check out the SED document if
you do not believe me. Do you fill that document out evetything you ship a Ninjago
figure to the Netherlands? Didn't think so.

Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 23, 2015 15:13

Subject:

Re: Add 'Customs Fraud' to option to cancel order

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In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, kzinti writes:

True alright. But still, someone simply.. disagree

Law itself doesn't
impress me (e.g. during WW2 hiding people was

We can initate heated debates over following law vs. acting on personal persuasion,
but at the end of the day, there'll always be those two kinds of people.
The one who says 'I'll have to ship this in two batches to keep it below
the critical value', and the other who says 'nobody would benefit from
that' might as well ship it at once and write down half the value on it.

It shouldn't really matter what someone's position on law is. I've
noticed that to some people here that's hard to swallow an law is almost
holy, but.. really. I'm not saying you have to condone the other, but a simple
refusal should suffice. Nobody should of course do anything against their principles.

I always get a bit uneasy when these kinds of topics arise, because I feel people
get judged overly harsh. Many people just got out of their dark age, are young,
and are not aware that what they're asking is considered by some people to
be very malicious. Or people live in a country where parcels get stolen if they're
valuable, and they really want to have Lego as a hobby. It's easy for us
to judge people in that situation. And there could be other reasons.

From my point of view, for example, fishing is barbarous and immoral, but I'm
still able to be on perfectly fine civil terms with Americans who like to go
fishing with their son and I appreciate that's considered a nice and bonding
family activity. I wouldn't want "buyer participates in fishing" as a reason
to cancel an order either

Let's just disagree with each other whenever
we feel like it and focus on getting the Lego from the one end to the other.
Once a point is reached where a mutual deal cannot be reached and someone is
getting forced to break their own principles, it's time to resort to cancellation.

sure, lie on the customs form its no risk to the buyer, all the risk is on the
seller, how would you feel if you receiving the package took on all the risk?
but until then I'm not breaking the law and taking such a huge risk because
a buyer wants to save a few bucks.

Actually the reality is the exact opposite. Putting aside all the legalese and
"technical" legal ramifications, this is the risk in reality:

1) Buyer has to pay the full customs duties owed
2) Buyer risks being known by local postal workers to receive many underdeclared
packages, so they may scrutinize his items more closely
3) The package could potentially be returned, in which case the buyer may have
to pay to have it shipped again.

Since no one is going to arrest or report or bring any legal action whatsoever
over a $100 package (it just does not happen in the real world. Regulators are
concerned about nabbing the $100 million corporate export cheaters instead),
the seller faces no practical risk whatsoever.

So really, the buyer bears all the risk. Seller faces no practical risk. You
might say "But...but... but... legally...technically... its still.... but but
but!"

To which i say, nice tinfoil hat. Have fun standing in your own way of making
a profit.

INTERNATIONAL BUYERS ALWAYS WELCOME IN MY STORE. CONTACT ME FOR SPECIAL SHIPPING
QUOTES

Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 23, 2015 13:04

Subject:

Re: Add 'Customs Fraud' to option to cancel order

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In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, blackballoon writes:

In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, blackballoon writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, LordSkylark writes:

Please add

"Buyer wanted seller to lie on custom's form"
as an option for the seller to cancel the order.

Andy

I take it you meant

"Buyer demanded"

I think that's an important difference. Just asking for it shouldn't
be cause for a seller to freak out and cancel the order. If a buyer demands it
(like demanding a lower price. which is already in there as one of the reasons)
then that is a legitimate deal breaker.

Has that ever stopped the thought police from trying to regulate our speech ?
Pretty soon they will be calling for a checkbox to cancel an order if the buyer
asks about the weather in the seller's country.

Customs fraud is law made and enforced by government(s). Bricklink is not a
government. Even if a buyer breaks a legal contract here on bricklink, it would
be a matter for the courts to handle, not bricklink.

Since when is asking a question a crime ? Last i checked, you usually have to
act in order to face consequences. Besides, the seller already has the ability
to cancel an order for almost any reason they desire, so long as it is part of
their store terms.

http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1919

part 13:

General Compliance with Laws:
You shall comply with all applicable laws, statutes, ordinances and regulations
regarding your use of our service and your listing, purchase and sale of items.

part 9:

Breach:
We reserve the right to terminate your membership, delete all of your data and
deny you access to any or all of your data stored at BrickLink.com if you breach
this Agreement or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information
you provide to us. We also reserve the right to terminate your membership, delete
all of your data and deny you access to any or all of the site's features
at any time for any reason without prior notice.

So by BL's ToS by asking someone to break the law BL could find you in breach
of the contract and delete your account.

That is a default website disclaimer, bringing that up is an argument that could
be used to defend any reason to punish a buyer under discussion. Yes,
your membership can be terminated for any reason whatsoever, fair or unfair,
logical or unlogical, that's true.

The again, a forum topic on customs fraud has previously been censored by the
moderators, so it wouldn't surprise me if they'd ban someone for it.

its clear and simple, customs fraud is against the law, so don't ask, plain
and simple.

Committing customs fraud is against the law. You are free to ask
for it all day long.

no, it is against the law to solicit a criminal act. in other words asking someone
to commit a crime is against the law, only difference is in soliciting the person
asking is committing the crime, committing the crime is the one doing it.

Alright, well i can see you are just going to keep responding with more and more
outlandish replies and legal definitions and fine print. I am not a lawyer,
but usually what you are talking about refers to much more well defined contracts
for prostitution or murder etc. Here on bricklink, we buy and sell typically
low value lego orders. No one is getting their account terminated,no one is
going to jail, no one is i plementing any checkboxes for asking questions, so
all of this is overblown moot discussion nonsense

Please reserve the forum for serious discussion that actually impacts us....
thank you....

Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 23, 2015 12:55

Subject:

Re: Add 'Customs Fraud' to option to cancel order

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In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, blackballoon writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, LordSkylark writes:

Please add

"Buyer wanted seller to lie on custom's form"
as an option for the seller to cancel the order.

Andy

its clear and simple, customs fraud is against the law, so don't ask, plain
and simple.

Committing customs fraud is against the law. You are free to ask
for it all day long.

Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 23, 2015 12:53

Subject:

Re: Add 'Customs Fraud' to option to cancel order

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In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, blackballoon writes:

In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, blackballoon writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, LordSkylark writes:

Please add

"Buyer wanted seller to lie on custom's form"
as an option for the seller to cancel the order.

Andy

Yup, rather than defining the buyer, maybe we should have a checkbox "seller
flips out when asked to commit customs fraud". That'd solve everything, the
sellers who get offended by the question can check that box and will not get
it that often anymore. And when they do they can point to the checkbox and get
legitimately angry and stoplist the buyer

But you're right, asking this should never be punished. It's not an illegal
action, it's not a faillure to reach an agreement at the point of asking,
and it is not a personal insult.

so when a person asks another person to kill someone, that's not against
the law? even though no crime has been committed?

i am not a lawyer but i am pretty sure you would need a consiberable amount of
court-admissible evidence to convict someone based on just asking another person
to kill somebody, if no killing or attempt to kill has taken place. For all you
know, the person might just be joking.

you would be surprised, you should watch the news more often.

OK mr. tinfoil hat

Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 23, 2015 12:48

Subject:

Re: Add 'Customs Fraud' to option to cancel order

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In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:

In Suggestions, blackballoon writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, LordSkylark writes:

Please add

"Buyer wanted seller to lie on custom's form"
as an option for the seller to cancel the order.

Andy

it was not censored for that reason. it is a private matter,, sorry no details

Author:

blackballoon

Posted:

May 23, 2015 12:46

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Re: Add 'Customs Fraud' to option to cancel order

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