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 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: May 18, 2021 15:20
 Subject: Re: Antivirus warning on Bricklink!?
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 Topic: Technical Issues
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In Technical Issues, BrickAThon writes:
  In Technical Issues, Kenopolis writes:
  My antivirus keeps giving me a warning when I search for things on bricklink.
Any idea what this is about?

Has anyone reported this to the help desk yet? This is bad - having issues here,
too - got Google to load with putting BrickLink in as safe in Avast, but Firefox
is still booting it, regardless.

Tracy

I don't know if it has been reported.

I have the same problem with AVG,but I think that they are related.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: May 17, 2021 10:35
 Subject: Re: Wanted List option any color?
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In Wanted, re_collection writes:
  Hi all,
is there a way for to add an item in my Wanted List selecting all colors with
only one entry?

Thanks in advance

Just select the color "Not Applicable".
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Feb 19, 2021 08:10
 Subject: Re: 3700pb02 Doesn't Look White to Me
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 Topic: Colors
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  
 
Part No: 3700pb02  Name: Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Hole and Lufthansa Logo Pattern on Both Ends (Stickers) - Set 40146
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3700pb02 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Hole and Lufthansa Logo Pattern on Both Ends (Stickers) - Set 40146
Parts: Technic, Brick {White}

This doesn't look white to my eyes

The other parts from that set have the same problem.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Dec 21, 2020 04:24
 Subject: Re: Test Prints
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  BrickLink members have asked for these to be added to the catalog for many years.
Merry Christmas!

[P=3626bpb2715]
[P=3626cpb2715]

There are different patterns. See photos.

I am looking for more patterns,
so if you have any, please let me know
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Dec 21, 2020 02:24
 Subject: Re: Test Prints
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In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  BrickLink members have asked for these to be added to the catalog for many years.
Merry Christmas!

[P=3626bpb2715]
[P=3626cpb2715]

There are different patterns. See photos.

Add your own picture, just like with other testbricks

That might be a good idea.

I have seen images of a 4th pattern, but I don't have any of those yet.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Dec 20, 2020 16:15
 Subject: Re: Test Prints
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  BrickLink members have asked for these to be added to the catalog for many years.
Merry Christmas!

[P=3626bpb2715]
[P=3626cpb2715]

There are different patterns. See photos.
 




 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Dec 6, 2020 18:12
 Subject: Re: Would this be a collectors item?
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In Catalog, matthi writes:
  
  Even short shots can be faked
by cutting a part and careful use of a heat gun.

They can be faked but you can easily spot if they r fake or not, shortshots having
flowing lines on the area where the "shortshot" occures. But everything can be
fake these days to buy, even a simple 2x4 brick these days having all the illegal
info
molded on the brick.


I still want one of those fake 2x4 bricks with LEGO on the studs for my collection.


  So if you think about it's better not to buy lego at all
then lol. I can't even buy a red vader type 1 helmet as I'm not sure
the seller is honoust n send me a real one, or put a real one on a picture and
send me a bootleg one. As these don't have a logo molded but a moldnr...
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Oct 5, 2020 13:35
 Subject: Re: automatiek different colour?
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See https://www.flickr.com/photos/68072414%40N03/15480769489/
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Oct 5, 2020 09:41
 Subject: Re: Medium Lavender should be "Dark Lavender"?
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, Gmid writes:
  […]
You kinda would have to plot them in a 3d sphere, as color is not a linear or
2d movement, but more a 3d position. Normally the lightness is the 'third
d', but I see you incorporated that.

They are plotted in a 3D space: Jab (which is a perceived Lab).
It’s just that pictures that can be posted here are 2D only

I have been thinking about building something showing the colors in that 3D space,
but I gave up because I could not think of an elegant way to do it.

  That’s why I added comments after looking at the plot under different angles.


  I've thought about this before and if we really have a full go at it, then
we should drop the 'no adjectives' al together, and name all colors with
adjectives from light to dark (light - medium light - medium - medium dark -
dark). The no adjective color creates this problem as that is not a defined position
on the imaginary scale.

Well, first, some colours are inherently already light (or dark).  E.g. Lime
is a light colour (high J component).  Light Lime is very light.  I don’t know
what name would be the matching “centred” colour but, even you find it (say,
‘G’) and rename Lime as Light G and Light Lime as Very Light G, people will see
Light G and say “eh, why isn’t this called ‘Lime’?”
Or if you say “Lime is the base colour,” you’d have people asking why Medium
Lime is lighter than Light This or Light That….

Anyway, here, it was just an exercise on LEGO official names, to get a hint on
some sort of objective rule in TLG’s use of the adjectives.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Oct 4, 2020 13:17
 Subject: Re: Medium Lavender should be "Dark Lavender"?
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In Colors, yoavheskia writes:
  Hi
I want to understand the logic behind the color names.
Why medium lavender is not dark lavender?
Medium suppose to be lighter than the main color, isn't it?
Like medium green, medium orange, medium blue and medium brown.
The medium lavender is much darker than lavender, so the name for it should be
dark lavender.
What do you think?

In this case, the original LEGO names were used on BrickLink.
The names are not perfect, but it is less confusing than making up our own names.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Sep 1, 2020 06:21
 Subject: Re: Obscure Parts Locator
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In an embarrassingly obvious and somewhat fawning attempt to win the admiration
of you, our handsomely-attired constituents, whilst simultaneously earning slightly-less-baleful
stares of disapproval from our immediate superiors, we (the catalog team) have
created a new page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479

Save the link and be the first to use it when someone posts looking for one of
these hard-to-find items.

If you appreciate this new page, you're welcome to respond with one of the
following phrases:

Oh, now that's helpful. Our catalog people really look out for us.

I never even knew we needed this page until it was created. It brings tears
to my eyes and makes me proud to be a member of this fine website.


The Obscure Parts Locator saved my life in Cambodia in 1977. I don't
know how to thank you all for the fine work you do.


I reckon it's better than a kick in the head from a mule, and that's
saying something.


My goodness, what will they think of next? #innovation #exultation #yellowstonenationalpark

The new page was suggested some years ago by the illustrious mfav in this message:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1108428

Oh, now that's helpful. Our catalog people really look out for us.

Now I am thinking ... which obscure parts are we forgetting (again)? .. And how
would you like requests for future additions to be made (or will this forum thread
remain active)?

... And how many obscure parts could we include in the overview before they become
unfindable again
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 13, 2020 19:20
 Subject: Re: About Braille Bricks
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In Catalog, Dimi_DBB writes:
  In Catalog, Macaronis writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.

So, it appears the LEGO Braille bricks are (finally) soon to be released ( https://www.newelementary.com/2020/08/free-lego-braille-bricks-released-by.html
).
They’ll only be made available for free to blind children through the LEGO Foundation. 
They won’t be buyable.

Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL?  (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)

And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)

——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here

While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.

If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.



End of Line......

They will definitely be on sale on other marketplaces, so there will always be
people profiting from these.

IMO, if they are LEGO, then they should have a spot in the catalog.
And having them for sale is also a way of getting them to kids that can't
get them from LEGO itself.

Maybe a crazy/stupid(?) idea, but what about setting them to a fixed (cheap)
price on BL?

I think that would be illegal.

  Sellers that want to help getting them spread all over the world can put them
up for sale, while buyers that need them (or want to donate them) don't have
to pay ridiculous prices.
"Scummy market" sellers aren't encouraged anymore for selling them here,
since they can't make any (big) profit.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 13, 2020 19:16
 Subject: Re: About Braille Bricks
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, Macaronis writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.

So, it appears the LEGO Braille bricks are (finally) soon to be released ( https://www.newelementary.com/2020/08/free-lego-braille-bricks-released-by.html
).
They’ll only be made available for free to blind children through the LEGO Foundation. 
They won’t be buyable.

Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL?  (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)

And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)

——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here

While I have no Horse in this race. I personally DO not only NOT want to see
these on Bricklink but anyone SELLING them should get an Arrow to the Knee. The
Purpose of these are for Blind Children, Not so there is a Scummy market of third
party sellers making a profit and I know we have a few here that would do it.

If BL had some better management to address LEGO in the Buying side verse History
Archive I'd say it would be here for History reference without an option
to buy.



End of Line......

What if the LEGO Group set up a program where people could support institutions
for the blind by buying these special bricks? For every brick purchased, say
25 bricks would be donated to an institution. The bricks that went to supporters
would be a reminder to them of the cause of blind people and also reminded of
the LEGO Group's role in supporting them.

Even if there weren't an official program set up, the bricks would still
serve the same sentimental purpose.

We also see some school charity donations finding their way to resellers after
years of use. I see no problem in that.

Also, I would like to buy these bricks for my collection. It would be great if
I could buy them from LEGO and support their charity programme that way.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 11, 2020 05:54
 Subject: Re: Catalog Project - Moving Things
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, novabrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, I won't promise anything will happen.
Thanks to everyone for the input you're about to provide. I don't know
how this will go, but I expect it to be interesting.

 
Part No: 6576  Name: Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
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6576 Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
Parts: Plate, Modified

could this part be moved to tile modified as well?

Just for consistency

Regards

Christian

novabrick-team

That whole class needs cleaning up, so that all plates / tiles with missing /
extra studs are in the same place ...

 
Part No: 41740  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
* 
41740 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 6180  Name: Tile, Modified 4 x 6 with Studs on Edges
* 
6180 Tile, Modified 4 x 6 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6178  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 12 with Studs on Edges
* 
6178 Tile, Modified 6 x 12 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6205  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 16 with Studs on Edges
* 
6205 Tile, Modified 6 x 16 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified

Plus all the jumpers and so on.

I thought they were all going to plate, modified.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 10, 2020 03:58
 Subject: Re: Moving Things - Responses
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I would not merge hinge and turntable. They allow for a different
type of movement.

To make sense, the new category would have to be named "hinge and turntable",
and in that case: what would the change accomplish?
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 7, 2020 16:51
 Subject: Re: new color ?
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In Colors, donja_nl writes:
  Yes, that's the one. The picture is far better than mine. But what color
is it?

I think it is trans-green with a production error.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 7, 2020 10:02
 Subject: Re: new color ?
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In Catalog Requests, donja_nl writes:
  I have some bricks that I can't give the right color when listing them in
my inventory.
It is between trans green and trans bright green. See picture middle brick 1x8.
Can we call it trans medium green ??

What do you think and how to handle this color. I bought the bricks a years ago
at Legoland Deutschland and didn't use them. So I want to sell some of them.

See
https://flic.kr/p/FcJ4p6

It is a known color variation for this part. As far as we know, this is not officially
a new color.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 05:45
 Subject: Key chain 853992
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I just noticed this key chain in the catalog.
The current name is " 2 x 4 Brick - Satin Black Key Chain".
Should that not be "2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain"?
Or am I mistaken here?

 
Gear No: 853992  Name: 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
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853992 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
Gear: Key Chain
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 10, 2020 16:28
 Subject: Re: Dark Green - who's going to crack first?
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In Colors, popsicle writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
  In Colors, 1974 writes:
  In Colors, Miro78 writes:

  Danish language has no word for pink, so all pinks are purples, which makes
it very confusing

Yes we do, it's called "lyserød" (light red), but we now use the word "pink"
like everybody else

Also "purple" is "lilla" in danish, we do not use the word "purple" at all

Cheers

Ole

The Dutch do not use pink. We use "rose" (which is NOT a flower).

Yeah but, what's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name
would still... be pink? In Dutch anyway Sorry about that, Shakespeare.

I would get suspicious if my LEGO starts smelling sweet though....

  
  The "pink" is Dutch for your little finger.

Hey, that's interesting. That finger has the nickname; pinky, here in the
states.

Probably some Dutch immigrants (or their decendants) introduced that.

  
  I do not want to suggest any color for that finger, we should not repeat any flesh/nougat discussions

Good
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 10, 2020 16:21
 Subject: Re: Dark Green - who's going to crack first?
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In Colors, misbi writes:
  Fair enough, but uniquely with Dark Green, there is a direct clash/contradiction
between BL and LEGO.

Dark Green is not the only color where this happens.

Rust
Aqua
Brown
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 10, 2020 16:07
 Subject: Re: Dark Green - who's going to crack first?
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In Colors, 1974 writes:
  In Colors, Miro78 writes:

  Danish language has no word for pink, so all pinks are purples, which makes
it very confusing

Yes we do, it's called "lyserød" (light red), but we now use the word "pink"
like everybody else

Also "purple" is "lilla" in danish, we do not use the word "purple" at all

Cheers

Ole

The Dutch do not use pink. We use "rose" (which is NOT a flower). The "pink"
is Dutch for your little finger. I do not want to suggest any color for that
finger, we should not repeat any flesh/nougat discussions
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 16:41
 Subject: Re: 3001oldb Blue
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In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick

I would love to see an inventory for x1447c01 in the catalog, but I don't
have the parts to add them.

And we also need a catalog entry for the Duplo pull cart with string and brick.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 16:01
 Subject: Re: Collecting the parts catalog
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?

E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?

Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

Cheers,
Arnoud


That is one of the lists I started with. There are more than 42...

But I am STILL missing one of those! I can't believe how difficult it is
to find number 31!

https://www.flickr.com/gp/111441268@N03/4Q6N24
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 Posted: Jul 7, 2020 06:08
 Subject: Re: Collecting the parts catalog
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you mean including printed parts and printed minifigure parts? As then it
becomes almost a collection of all minifigures too. I think they look better
as minifigures rather than parts.

But there are certainly collectors of individual parts in many colours. Personally,
I like 1x2 plates and tiles.

I have almost all the decorated 2x4 bricks. That is challenging enough.

Collecting the catalog would be Awesome, but I don't have the time and money
to even make a serious attempt.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jun 22, 2020 16:24
 Subject: Re: Another color mystery
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In Colors, WildBricks writes:
  So are all the lots being sold on both sites a mix of the 2 colors since neither
seem to have a separate color for Lilac #219? Things that make you go "Hm" .

In Colors, yoavheskia writes:
  The upper brick is medium violet
There is 2 shades of medium violet:
it's 2 different Lego colors:
1.Medium Bluish Violet Lego color no. 112
2.Lilac Lego color no. 219

The lower brick is Dark Pink (I think)

Yes.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jun 12, 2020 15:21
 Subject: Re: Consistent Zamor Sphere Inventory Listings
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Good to see that you are still working on this.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/111441268@N03/25463895267/in/album-72157646588122344/
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jun 10, 2020 15:25
 Subject: Re: Clikits colors
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:

  I don't know how Randy knows about both colors. I have mentioned them as
a "catalog color problem" before.

I learned about them while working with all the Clikits parts. I noticed that
most of the Trans-Purple Clikits parts did not match the modern Trans-Purple.

I only checked my icons. I did not check my flexy film / Clikits, Icon Accent.
There could be more Bluish parts there...
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 Posted: Jun 10, 2020 15:14
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
  I have just checked all my clikits parts. ALL trans-purple Clikits parts are
the Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac color, except clikits007. So we would only
have to check clikits007.

I don't think so. Randy detected the two colors of Trans-purple and 7554-1
has entirely eluded us in this project.

I don't know how Randy knows about both colors. I have mentioned them as
a "catalog color problem" before.

I have searched for the different Clikits colors years ago, when I joined Pikachu3
on the project of finding out about the LEGO colors. I have not found more Transparent
Bright BLUISH Lilac parts (in reality and in online databases), but that is no
guarantee that they do not exist.

I can say with certainty that Transparent Bright BLUISH Lilac is rare in Clikits,
while Transparent Bright REDDISH Lilac is common. In LEGO System sets, it is
the opposite (only one part known).
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
  In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, randyf writes:
  
  Transparent Bright Bluish Violet and Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac are grouped
into BrickLink's Trans-Purple. If I remember correctly, I have clikits007
in both colors. These colors SHOULD BE SPLIT.

I agree here, also.

How hard will it be to get them sorted out?

Harder than some of the other ones.

I have just checked all my clikits parts. ALL trans-purple Clikits parts are
the Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac color, except clikits007. So we would only
have to check clikits007.

The color difference is pretty obvious in reality, but sadly not in the set images
in our catalog.

The glitter version also uses the (regular) bluish version. That does not have
to be changed.

I think all Transparent Bright Bluish Lilac stars came from set 7555-1

[p=clikits007]
 
Set No: 7555  Name: Glitter & Sparkle Beauty Set
* 
7555-1 (Inv) Glitter & Sparkle Beauty Set
57 Parts, 2006
Sets: Clikits

Thank you. We are getting ahead of ourselves, though, because the color project
is not being worked on right now. We will get back to this at a later time.

I know. But this was a good opportunity to discuss the issue.
I assume you are taking notes and this discussion will be here when we get
to that color project.
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Read the inventory note for set 7555-1
 
Set No: 7555  Name: Glitter & Sparkle Beauty Set
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7555-1 (Inv) Glitter & Sparkle Beauty Set
57 Parts, 2006
Sets: Clikits
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, randyf writes:
  
  Transparent Bright Bluish Violet and Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac are grouped
into BrickLink's Trans-Purple. If I remember correctly, I have clikits007
in both colors. These colors SHOULD BE SPLIT.

I agree here, also.

How hard will it be to get them sorted out?

Harder than some of the other ones.

I have just checked all my clikits parts. ALL trans-purple Clikits parts are
the Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac color, except clikits007. So we would only
have to check clikits007.

The color difference is pretty obvious in reality, but sadly not in the set images
in our catalog.

The glitter version also uses the (regular) bluish version. That does not have
to be changed.

I think all Transparent Bright Bluish Lilac stars came from set 7555-1

[p=clikits007]
 
Set No: 7555  Name: Glitter & Sparkle Beauty Set
* 
7555-1 (Inv) Glitter & Sparkle Beauty Set
57 Parts, 2006
Sets: Clikits
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:

  Here is an image of all the colors used in Clikits
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111441268@N03/15777638842/in/album-72157646588122344/

Fire Yellow is grouped with Bright Yellow into BrickLink's Yellow.
I propose NO CHANGE.

I didn't know about this one. I agree though. It looks like yellow, so yellow
it will stay.

  Light Purple is grouped with Flamingo Pink into BrickLink's Bright Pink.
(Flamingo Pink is used for parts clikits141, clikits135, clikits135pb01, clikits100pb04)
The color is clearly different from Bright Pink. Flamingo Pink was only used
for a few parts, and there are no parts that are available in both colors. Keeping
this grouping as it is could be ACCEPTABLE.

I would like to see this one broken out because it is markedly different and
unique. It was lower priority than the others I had added last year, but I hope
we can add it at a later time.

  Transparent Fluorescent Blue and Transparent Light Royal Blue (used in Clikits)
are grouped into BrickLink's Trans-Medium Blue. I propose NO CHANGE.

This one will not be separated out.

  Transparent Bright Bluish Violet and Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac are grouped
into BrickLink's Trans-Purple. If I remember correctly, I have clikits007
in both colors. These colors SHOULD BE SPLIT.

I agree here, also.


BrickLink has a tradition of grouping colors. In some cases, that is no problem
(Bright Yellow and Fire Yellow). In some cases the group should be split.

For this, my personal priorities are:

1) Groups where parts have been made in both colors
These should be split.

2) Colors that look different, but have no overlap in the parts that were made.
For these, I would prefer a split but maintaining the group could be an acceptable
compromise.

3) Colors that are difficult to separate (for example dark pink, or yellow).
In a purist catalog, those should be split. In a catalog aimed at practical use
and sale, they should remain grouped. The grouping should be mentioned in the
color help file though.
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
  In Colors, randyf writes:

  
  If we could have this color in the catalog, how would you name it?

- The color is lighter than Trans-Yellow
- The color is a fluorescent (but less so than Trans-Neon Yellow
- The color was used for Clikits only
- The official name is Transparent Fire Yellow

  "Trans-Light Yellow" would be recognisable,
but I think that confused sellers will be using it for other parts also.

My thoughts:

(1) "Tran-Light Yellow" was my first thought for a name, so I am glad to see
you mention that. It is distinctly lighter than normal Trans-Yellow, so I think
it fits nicely in the current list of color names.

Trans-Light Yellow is probably the best option.


  (2) "Trans-Fire Yellow" is a non-starter because it doesn't make any sense
and current "Trans-Neon Yellow" looks much more "fiery" than this color.

Agreed.

  (3) I would do anything to not have the "Clikits" name in the trans-colors list,
so a name with "Clikits" in it is most likely also a non-starter (even though
it was only used in the Clikits theme).

It might prevent some sellers to list regular parts as Trans-Light Yellow, but
an update (with photos) to the color help file could help there.

  (4) The fact that it fluoresces is not apparent just by looking at the color,
so I would stray away from anything with "Neon" in the name.

These items were moved form Trans-Yellow to Trans-Neon Yellow because they are
fluorescent. That is why I mentioned it. I agree that it is not apparent by looking
at the parts.

  I got the last two colors added ("Clikits Lavender" and "Trans-Light Bright Green")
due to the huge Clikits project that was worked on all last summer, so I can
see what I could do to get this one added.

If anyone has any other thoughts on this, please post them here.

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. A couple of other issues with the Clikits colors are the fact that there
are two shades of Trans-Purple which are not distinguished (this color difference
bleeds into other areas of the catalog, such as part 30374), and there are some
pink parts that are not distinguished (I believe it is known as Flamingo Pink).

Here is an image of all the colors used in Clikits
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111441268@N03/15777638842/in/album-72157646588122344/

Fire Yellow is grouped with Bright Yellow into BrickLink's Yellow.
I propose NO CHANGE.


Light Purple is grouped with Flamingo Pink into BrickLink's Bright Pink.
(Flamingo Pink is used for parts clikits141, clikits135, clikits135pb01, clikits100pb04)
The color is clearly different from Bright Pink. Flamingo Pink was only used
for a few parts, and there are no parts that are available in both colors. Keeping
this grouping as it is could be ACCEPTABLE.


Transparent Fluorescent Blue and Transparent Light Royal Blue (used in Clikits)
are grouped into BrickLink's Trans-Medium Blue. I propose NO CHANGE.



Transparent Bright Bluish Violet and Transparent Bright Reddish Lilac are grouped
into BrickLink's Trans-Purple. If I remember correctly, I have clikits007
in both colors. These colors SHOULD BE SPLIT.
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OK... I'm tired and reformulating sentences does not work any more
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
  In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
but I lost that discussion.

I wish it didn't feel that way to you. I have the same ideal as you that
Trans-Fire would get added to the catalog and we could do it perfectly. I only
disagree with you on which way we should be wrong since we have to be wrong.

It does feel that way, but I can understand your point of view also. We just
have different priorities/preferences.


(Don't worry, I don't blame anyone and I don't make this a personal
issue. We can't always get what we want.)

If we could have this color in the catalog, how would you name it?

- The color is lighter than Trans-Yellow
- The color is a fluorescent (but less so than Trans-Neon Yellow
- The color was used for Clikits only
- The official name is Transparent Fire Yellow

I think that not many users would know what "Fire yellow" means.
(These parts are actually Fire Yellow: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catID=575&catXrefLevel=0&colorPart=3&catType=P
That color is so close to yellow that it does not make sense to add a new color
here)


"Trans-Clikits Light Neon Yellow" might be least confusing, but that is an awkward
and long.

"Trans-Light Yellow" would be recognisable,
but I think that confused sellers will be using it for other parts also.
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
but I lost that discussion.

I wish it didn't feel that way to you. I have the same ideal as you that
Trans-Fire would get added to the catalog and we could do it perfectly. I only
disagree with you on which way we should be wrong since we have to be wrong.

It does feel that way, but I can understand your point of view also. We just
have different priorities/preferences.


(Don't worry, I don't blame anyone and I don't make this a personal
issue. We can't always get what we want.)
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I don't expect everyone to have all these parts in hand
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In Colors, BEL writes:
  Thank you for your answers. It was indeed time for a clean up for clikits colors.
The only problem is the lack of notification. Because in this case I have 2 different
colors yellow both called trans neon yellow now. But I go change the discription
of them

That is why I opposed this change, but I lost that discussion.
[p=clikits003,121]
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In Catalog, Hamster_Prod writes:
  Hi,

This is probably a very daft question, but I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere so... where does the minifig item number come from?

For example, take the minifig 'twn071' (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=twn071)

As far as I understand, this means it is the 71st figure within the category
'Town'.

So who decides the categories and the number ordering within those categories?
LEGO? Bricklink? Someone else?

I am asking because I want to start seriously collecting and organising figures
across several categories, but I would like to fully understand this system before
I start using it!

Thanks in advance,
Josh

See https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
on item numbers

and https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
on adding items to the catalog
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In Colors, WoutR writes:
  In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, BEL writes:
  I have a question. Are the colors of some clikits changed? Yesterday I was listing
some clikits and at the same time looking for mistakes in my inventorie. I found
a lot of neon yellow parts that I did not list as neon yellow but as trans light
yellow. Trans light yellow is now gone. Changed in neon yellow without a note.
But I do have part 003 in both noen yellow and trans (light?)yellow. I was lucky
nobody ordered the parts!

 
Set No: 7557  Name: Blooms & Butterflies
* 
7557-1 (Inv) Blooms & Butterflies
14 Parts, 2005
Sets: Clikits
came with [p=clikits003] [p=clikits099] and [p=clikits100pb01] in
a color Lego calls Trans-Fire Yellow, only found in this set. Bricklink doesn't
have a separate color for these 3 pieces, so they are lumped into Trans-Neon
Yellow. They can be differentiated as you found. Trans-Fire Yellow doesn't
glow as strongly as Trans-Neon Yellow.

There are many more parts in trans fire yellow, originating in more Clikits sets.
 
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, BEL writes:
  I have a question. Are the colors of some clikits changed? Yesterday I was listing
some clikits and at the same time looking for mistakes in my inventorie. I found
a lot of neon yellow parts that I did not list as neon yellow but as trans light
yellow. Trans light yellow is now gone. Changed in neon yellow without a note.
But I do have part 003 in both noen yellow and trans (light?)yellow. I was lucky
nobody ordered the parts!

 
Set No: 7557  Name: Blooms & Butterflies
* 
7557-1 (Inv) Blooms & Butterflies
14 Parts, 2005
Sets: Clikits
came with [p=clikits003] [p=clikits099] and [p=clikits100pb01] in
a color Lego calls Trans-Fire Yellow, only found in this set. Bricklink doesn't
have a separate color for these 3 pieces, so they are lumped into Trans-Neon
Yellow. They can be differentiated as you found. Trans-Fire Yellow doesn't
glow as strongly as Trans-Neon Yellow.

There are many more parts in trans fire yellow, originating in more Clikits sets.
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The change is discussed here
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=256690
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
  In Colors, Pippyblocks writes:
  A really fab colour collection there WoutR

In Colors, WoutR writes:
  Image showing several Pink and Salmon colors.

Thanks. As far as I know, I am only missing one known color.

(If anyone has a cheap 19071c01 top available, let me know. It does not have
to work.)
 
Part No: 19071c01  Name: Electric, Hub - WeDo 2.0
* 
19071c01 Electric, Hub - WeDo 2.0
Parts: Electric, Programmable

You are only missing white?

No, the infrared cover... The transparent-milky-white part.
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In Colors, Pippyblocks writes:
  A really fab colour collection there WoutR

In Colors, WoutR writes:
  Image showing several Pink and Salmon colors.

Thanks. As far as I know, I am only missing one known color.

(If anyone has a cheap 19071c01 top available, let me know. It does not have
to work.)
 
Part No: 19071c01  Name: Electric, Hub - WeDo 2.0
* 
19071c01 Electric, Hub - WeDo 2.0
Parts: Electric, Programmable
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
  I don't know what the current status is of the planned catalog color project,
but in preparation here is a photo of some pink parts.

The parts on the left are LEGO Light Reddish Violet. The parts on the
right are LEGO Rose. Both are called pink on BrickLink.

Rose is commonly called "Paradisa Pink" and is often sold as "Light Pink" on
BrickLink.


I am not sure if BrickLink's Light Pink actually exist. I suspect many are
misidentified.

I recently found a rare 9290-1 for sale. I took the band off myself, so I'm
reasonably sure there was no UV damage, but I can't speak for say temperature
or humidity or anything else. The set is 24 years old.

I didn't notice any problem as I prepared the inventory and sorted the set
out in my kitchen and living room. But when I got it ready to sell the pieces,
in my stockroom with bright white light, I found the white pieces all off-white.
They aren't terrible, you know? I've seen way worse. But they were
not factory white. So I have given them all to my daughters. But none of the
other colors seemed bad until I was consolidating pieces that I already had in
my inventory. This pic shows what I found. Maybe the pink is damaged, but I
just wondered if maybe it wasn't. If 5890 and 9290 come with different old
pinks, then I want to keep one of each for reference. And I have enough to prepare
3 more reference sets for other people. I take some hope from the fact that
the ones in 9290 seem lighter. I'm not sure what a yellowed old pink piece
would look like, but I would expect it to get darker rather than lighter.




Set 5980 was made from 1994 to 1995.

Set 9290 was issued in 1996. It is not included in the LEGO Collector's guide,
so I am not sure how long those were released.

Ryan uses 1994 as the year of the color change. In my earlier message
(PM), I thought it was 1997.

Both of these are the newer Light Reddish Violet.


This list shows the color change in 1994.
http://ryanhowerter.net/colors.php
His Flickr images mention 1997. I think that the list is correct...
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Image showing several Pink and Salmon colors.
 
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  I have found this part in Light Gray, and I'll be supplying an image to the
catalog. Here is some comparison images. The car base is also Light Gray.

Gots to be honest with you, I'm still wondering. Can you post an image of
the two parts attached side by side on a 1 x 4 plate (any color)?

Just want to be certain since this part was released (according to our timeline)
five years after the LBG colour change.

In my opinion, the additional notes are not best used to admonish sellers in
a patronizing and condescending tone.

More criticism for the catalog admin team, I see.

In this case, I think the criticism was justified.
I am happy to see that the Additional notes were updated.
[p=88072]
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In Catalog, markim writes:
  I think i submitted a request! Thanks!

It looks like you are doing a lot of things right!
Well done
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, Pippyblocks writes:
  This is mainly for the colour fanatics here.

Had a largish haul of parts with a lot of Dark Pink bricks. Whilst sorting I
found quite a few sun damaged so just binned as I found them. But just had another
look at one and I don't think it is sun damage after all. It has totally
changed colour and completely consistent throughout. I would say this is the
same as the 'brittle blue' thing. Attached an image so show different
(photo doesn't quite capture it perfectly). Another one I'll add to
my ever-growing collection of weird Lego colours.

The color Dark Pink was changed around the same time that the new grays replaced
the old grays in 2004. So there are two true distinct shades of Dark Pink:

LEGO color 22 Medium Reddish Violet (early Dark Pink)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/14777415117/

LEGO color 221 Bright Purple (modern Dark Pink)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/14988645798/

I don't know if this explains the difference in the color of your parts,
but I thought you should be aware of the history of the color.

Cheers,
Randy

I have never been able to tell the difference with certainty. I have bought parts
that must be one of the two colors because of the date the part was made. There
is so much variation that I could not tell them apart.
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  Thank you all!


Congratulations!

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