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In General, popsicle writes:

In General, calsbricks writes:

More points than what fits "in a nutshell" but okay. I'm interested in this
statement "Seeing a pattern? We do" would you mind expanding on it?

-Clueless (member formerly known as popsicle

)

Yes - we will leave it to your very vivid imagination

In time maybe the missing features will be added, only Bricklink knows that at
present. In the meantime we have a great deal of sympathy for those that are
caught up in this, both buyers, who are going to pay more and sellers who will
have an additional administrative burden and cost landed on them (You pay Paypal
or Stripe fees based on the total value of the orger (Which includes VAR, where
appropriate. Still that isn’t a lot is it?

I have left out lots of complicated bits here as that was not the point, How
is Bricklink going to know if a sellers turnover reaches 10k in a 12 month period,
for example unless the seller declares it.

Good fun and always, yes always a challenge.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jul 2, 2021 06:15

Subject:

In a nutshell

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Topic:

General

OK the EU Marketplace VAT changes are released and in the throes of being examined,
and as pretty much normal, there are things missing. That is not new. We are
still waiting for the sales tax exemption for the US and that was a long time
ago. We are also still waiting on the zip code pricing for the US, as well as
weight and volume based pricing for most of Europe (Lots have workarounds for
this). We must not forget the margin scheme in all of tjhis – yet another complication

All sellers who have not implemented an onsite payment method are not affected
by these changes as Bricklink has limited the payment methods to either Paypal
or Stripe, where they have an arrangement to collect the monies directly before
the seller gets paid.

If you have implemented onsite payments then you are affected one way or the
other. Depends on what country you are in or selling from and also has a dependency
on your cumulative turnover in the EU currently 10k euros, (That hasn’t been
implemented yet either) Seeing a pattern ? we do. Big picture design and programming
works well in some circumstances but not all, the same as agile development

In time maybe the missing features will be added, only Bricklink knows that at
present. In the meantime we have a great deal of sympathy for those that are
caught up in this, both buyers, who are going to pay more and sellers who will
have an additional administrative burden and cost landed on them (You pay Paypal
or Stripe fees based on the total value of the orger (Which includes VAR, where
appropriate. Still that isn’t a lot is it?

I have left out lots of complicated bits here as that was not the point, How
is Bricklink going to know if a sellers turnover reaches 10k in a 12 month period,
for example unless the seller declares it.

Good fun and always, yes always a challenge.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 07:16

Subject:

Re: New EU Marketplace Tax Solution is Now Live

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Topic:

Administrative

In Administrative, Erikmax writes:

In Administrative, Stellar writes:

In Administrative, kaat writes:

In Administrative, Teup writes:

In Administrative, Brick.Store writes:

Affected are all sellers in the EU that are over 10,000 €.

Although there's no excuse for it not working, as far as I can see it doesn't
need to be a serious problem, right? I mean, you already had to do your invoicing
outside of Bricklink (if only for the fact the invoice on Bricklink cannot include
an invoice number). So you can also apply the buyer country's VAT percentage
manually. So, the inc.VAT amount would remain the same for all EU buyers but
on the backend you charge a different VAT percentage.
Also, I think the sales up to July don't count for the limit, so you still
have some time to use the old system (if not the full remainder of this year,
and a part of next year if your book year starts in January).

This is exactly what I end up doing. Simply remove 21% dutch VAT for non-domestic
EU sales and readd the correct EU VAT myself. This means I'll lose a bit
on sales to countries with a higher VAT % and gain a little when the VAT % is
lower. At least then you can track sales with the correct VAT in your own book
keeping and report it at the end of the quarter.

OneStopShop is voluntary when below 10K but I already subscribed simply because
I don't want to have to start using all the different VAT percentages in
the middle of the quarter (when you're about to go over the threshold). And
when you already know you need to do it sooner or later, better do it from the
start.

So you need to work around it for now

Most likely automate it, as it's
not funny doing this manually.

Yeah, as I expected Bricklink to not comply with EU law to this date that is
what I thought to do too. Hope no worker from EU VAT compliance checks Bricklink's
big sellers and they don't display prices with the correct VAT...

Deep inside me I had still a bit of faith, but I don't know why...

And there is another point. What consequences will this have for the non-registered
sellers? I presume all files of export sales will now have to be handed over
to the taxman. I wonder what solutions Bricklink will have to tackle both the
margin regulations and the privat sellers.

There is a little bit of a twist to that. Non registered sellers who do not offer
onsite payments cannot make sales to any one other than domestic and a few countries
where tax is not in situ.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jul 1, 2021 06:37

Subject:

Re: New EU Marketplace Tax Solution is Now Live

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Topic:

Administrative

In Administrative, Teup writes:

In Administrative, Brick.Store writes:

In Administrative, Teup writes:

In Administrative, Brick.Store writes:

Affected are all sellers in the EU that are over 10,000 €.

It is no more time to use the old system because:

Determination of the turnover threshold 2021
For the assessment of the place of supply in the taxable period 2021, the following
must also be included to be included, which were executed in the calendar year
2020 and in the 1st half of 2021.

This means that if the turnover threshold has already been exceeded in the calendar
year 2020 or in the 1st half of 2021, from July 1, 2021 onwards, from the first
turnover onwards, for all within the EU

or

Do I fall under the obligation to report to the OSS if I have already exceeded
the threshold of 10,000 euros in 2020?

Yes. The supply threshold of 10,000 euros (net) also applies in advance. If the
threshold of 10,000 euros was exceeded in 2020, then the obligation to report
to the OSS applies from July 1, 2021.

Here is an excerpt from a FAQ

3. from when is the tax liability due?

The sale that leads to crossing the delivery threshold is the sale from which
the tax liability becomes due. If the threshold has already been reached in 2020
or in the first two quarters of 2021, then any sale will be subject to tax from
July 1. If the delivery threshold of 10,000 euros (net) is not reached until
September 2021, for example, then tax is not due until then.

4. When must the first report and the first payment be made in the OSS procedure?

The first report covering the 3rd quarter of 2021 (July, August, September) must
be submitted no later than October 31. 30 days after the end of the reporting
period, the payment period ends.

5. Is it possible to waive claiming the delivery threshold and pay tax directly
from the first euro in the destination country?

Yes, this is possible.

6. Do I fall under the obligation to report to the OSS if I have already exceeded
the threshold of 10,000 euros in 2020?

Yes. The supply threshold of 10,000 euros (net) also applies in advance. If the
threshold of 10,000 euros was exceeded in 2020, then the obligation to report
to the OSS applies from July 1, 2021.

7. Are shipping costs used to calculate whether the delivery threshold has
been exceeded?

Yes.

8. I have already exceeded the delivery threshold of 10,000 euros in Q1 2021.
Do I now have to report every remote sale through the OSS starting July 1?

Yes. If you have already exceeded the delivery threshold in 2021 or already in
2020, then you must report through the OSS starting July 1, 2021 if you want
to use the OSS.

Example 9: A German trader sells goods to Austria and France. When does he
become liable for tax in the two EU countries?

As long as the sales to Austria and France together amount to less than 10,000
euros, the German VAT rate of 19 percent or the reduced rate of 7 percent applies.
As soon as the sales to other EU countries exceed 10,000 euros, for example if
the entrepreneur has sold goods worth 6,000 euros to Austria and goods worth
4,001 euros to France, the entrepreneur becomes liable to pay tax in both countries.

Then each additional euro must be taxed in France at the French VAT rate (usually
20 percent). Each additional euro earned in Austria must be taxed at the Austrian
rate (usually 20 percent).

However, reporting and taxation can be done together via the One-Stop-Shop and
the taxes for both Austria and France are then forwarded to the Tax Office, which
handles the distribution of taxes to the respective EU countries.

Quelle: https://www.haendlerbund.de/de/news/aktuelles/rechtliches/3769-faq-one-stop-shop-umsatzsteuer#meldepflicht%202020

Thanks for that info, I just studied the page of the Dutch tax agency closely
and it seems these implementations vary per country. According to the Dutch tax
agency, you must use VAT per coutnry once you have passed the 10.000 limit in
that booking year. So, technically, you could use domestic VAT every year until
you reach the limit and then switch to VAT per country (it says you would need
to do so starting from the first invoice that exceeds the limit in that year).

Okay you are now just serving hobbyists on Bricklink and we are now only serving
domestic customers (No onsite payment option). Good fun and maybe, just maybe
other doors will open. Straanger things have happened.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jun 25, 2021 05:00

Subject:

Re: Warning, be careful sellers using Stripe.

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Topic:

Payment Methods

In Payment Methods, GraysBricks writes:

This has been mentioned before but I thought it best to let others sellers know
my latest experience.

Stripe seem to have targeted me are not satisfied with my bricklink store url
or domain redirect to ' verify ' my business. They are therefore stopping
payouts so I have had to disable for now on Bricklink .

I have been very clear to them about Lego and Bricklink and invited them to look
to see its all genuine but that don't seem interested.

It would be very helpful to have an alternative in the future so sellers could
choose between services.

Below is the email that started the talk with them that is still ongoing. I
have responded to their questions but it doesn't look promising.

----------------------

Thanks for using Stripe!

We're reaching out today to request some information about your company’s
business model that we couldn’t verify using your website and Stripe account
details.

It is important that Stripe knows what businesses are selling, in order to make
sure that your transactions abide by our Terms of Service and are appropriately
categorized in the payments ecosystem. We would appreciate if you could please
reply to this email with the following information:

What products or services do you plan to sell through Stripe?

We’d like to learn about your typical customers. Who’s your target audience?

Specifically, could you provide details around products/inventory, pricing, shipping
details, and customer-vetting processes, if applicable?

We have paused payouts to your bank account until we are able to verify what
you’re selling. Once we hear back from you, we will review your information within
24-48 hours. We’ll let you know when we’ve confirmed your business information
and resumed payouts to your account.

Let's see now - we have Paypal for Marketplaces whose terms are ridiculous,
providing complete control of your funds to the marketplace facilitator and Stripe
who do not seem to be aware that Bricklink is part of Lego now - good choices,
really

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jun 24, 2021 02:41

Subject:

Re: BrickLink and the new EU VAT e-commerce rules

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Topic:

Administrative

In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:

BrickLink VAT Changes Due to new EU VAT e-commerce Rules

Dear BrickLink members,

Following the introduction of the new rules for online marketplaces, BrickLink
will enable its VAT collection for goods imported into the European Union (EU)
on July 1, 2021 to comply with the new EU VAT Marketplace rules. Below is an
overview of these changes:

Changes at a glance:

1) EU buyers will see VAT exclusive prices from non-EU sellers and EU buyers
will see VAT inclusive prices from VAT-registered EU sellers.

2) BrickLink will collect and remit VAT on orders delivered to EU addresses imported
into their EU Member State from a non-EU country up to a value of €150 (not including
additional costs i.e. shipping insurance, etc.). For orders over €150 imported
to their EU Member State, the seller/buyer may need to pay VAT consistent with
the import country’s standard VAT rate as part of clearing the goods through
customs.

3) EU VAT will be added during the checkout process (where applicable) and at
the receipt of the final invoice and will not be included in the item price.

4) Where BrickLink is responsible for collecting VAT on orders sent to an EU
delivery address, this amount will be shown separately at checkout.

5) EU sellers that sell more than €10,000 of goods within the EU (but excluding
domestic transactions) per year will be required to be VAT registered in each
EU Member State it sells to or will need to register for the One Stop Shop (OSS)
scheme.

What this means for sellers:

1) If you are a non-EU seller and you want to sell goods to EU buyers, you will
need to opt-in to BrickLink’s on-site payment method.

2) In case of refunds, we encourage sellers to use the BrickLink refund feature
to ensure the correct amount of VAT gets refunded. The refund page can be accessed
from the Issue Refund link on the order detail page.

3) Sellers should list the items in their inventory exclusive of VAT and any
other taxes/fees to ensure price consistency in the Price Guide.

More information will be posted on dedicated Help and FAQ pages closer to the
release date.

Thank you,

The BrickLink Team

Hiya

Although not currently the 'law' for display of vat prices the recommended
practice is shown below.

Sites that sell to both consumers and businesses such as Staples ask the question
when you log on as to whether you wish to see vat inclusive or exclusive prices.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jun 19, 2021 01:27

Subject:

Re: Packing Dimensions - Seller Tools

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Topic:

Catalog

In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:

Thanks for the awesome update Russell! I'm looking forward to all the announcements
and especially more emails in the future. Keep up the great work!

I was wondering if the development team had thought about the differences between
European/Asian shipping requirements vs. USA and how that effects the order?
We depend a lot less on the dimensions of an element and primarily on the weight
in part-based selling. The problem arises when the element/part in the catalog
gets listed as volume based (not set, that makes sense) and automatic checkout
no longer works for that element, discouraging people from buying.

Since the team is just really starting to dig into the seller tools and seem
to be taking requests, please consider using different zones based on shippers
location when BL forces an element to the volume based shipping. It causes more
issues stateside (your primary market) by limiting sale of that element via auto-checkout
until dimensions are entered or the seller manually changes it back to weight
based.

We're all just trying to sling our brick as quickly and accurately as possible,
things like changing elements to volume without having dimensions makes that
more difficult. Thank you for your time.

- Big B

Hiya Big B

Just ran this on our inventory and came up with 1050 lots - lots of work to do.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jun 15, 2021 01:44

Subject:

New UK CN22

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Topic:

Help

If not registered for VAT what should go in the VAT registration box?

Thanks. Not applicable or not registered - are we allowed to do that? or are
the new silly rules about registering overseas now in effect?

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jun 13, 2021 03:18

Subject:

Re: A sad day to say the least

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Topic:

General

In General, wildchicken13 writes:

In General, calsbricks writes:

[…] and total for the moths wewre between 2000 and 3000. […]

That's a lot of moths!

I wouldn't necessarily assume this to be indicative of long-term trends,
though. Summer is always slow, and with many countries relaxing COVID-19 restrictions,
I expect this summer to be even slower.

certainly is

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jun 11, 2021 09:08

Subject:

Paypal issues

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Topic:

Problem

Not affecting everyone it seems but at least 500 of us in the UK have not been
able to log into Paypal since 0700 this morning. First they told us it was a
security issue, then they changed their mind and said it was an issue with one
of the phone companies and just now they said no chance of it getting fixed today
- try tomorrow. What a way to run a business.

Good grief Charlie Brown.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jun 3, 2021 10:56

Subject:

The New Brickstore

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Topic:

Related Software

Are print templates created in Ntickstock supported in the new Brickstore?

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

May 27, 2021 13:46

Subject:

Re: Lego Ownership of Bricklink

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Topic:

Announce

In Announce, StickyBrickit writes:

So it's been quite a while now since the bolt out of the blue announcement
that Lego had acquired this site. I remember at first there was quite a lot of
concern that they would ruin the site, or at least have an overall negative impact.
However I haven't really noticed any difference so far (perhaps a bit more
downtime from the server?).

Just wondering what other people's thoughts are now that they've had
control of the site for a while. Better, worse, about the same?

Probably still too early to tell, Large corporations take a long time normally
to assimilate small acquisitions. Although the product is the same, that is where
the similarity ends. Different styles, thoughts and vision need to find common
ground to move forward and that may not be the case yet.BL is also a very mixed
and diverse community with small hobbyist sellers and much larger stores with
multiple employees. It still is the best place to find product but not the best
for certain types of stores who rely on information not the 'seat of their
trousers' to develop.

Having read the entire thread it is a good and very relevant question , but the
answers are not as easy as understanding the OP post.

Check back in a ouple years time

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

May 16, 2021 13:20

Subject:

These don't normally get too far but ....

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Topic:

Status:

Open

Vote:

[Yes|No]

Could the programmers take a half hour and add the following information to the
my inventory detail pages as appropriate. It would be a step that would help
in reconciling inventory quantities (It won't do it all but it will help)

The information has to be held somewhere in the system and it only, for the moment,
needs to populate when someone adds to a lot. It can help sellers to back track
to when they last added this item.

It is not a complex programming effort.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Apr 22, 2021 10:40

Subject:

Brown (Old) 3957

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Topic:

Catalog

Status:

Open

We have 2 of these in stock and were about to submit a photo (none in catalogue)
when we saw that whilst it is listed as a known colour it is not shown in any
sets. I thought that was not the policy - if not in set not a known colour???

Clarification, please.

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Apr 6, 2021 09:57

Subject:

Re: New Packing Dimensions Feature

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Topic:

Catalog

In Catalog, jennnifer writes:

In Catalog, tec writes:

My friend here likes this post

That's a beauty! I definitely need one of those.

Jen

Or you might want one of these

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Mar 21, 2021 08:45

Subject:

Just a thought

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Status:

Open

Vote:

[Yes|No]

In 13 years on the site I do not believe much as been implemmented that has been
suggested but here is another one to ponder.

Several times a year there are problems on the site regarding e-mails being sent
out. That pertains to either notifies, order notifications, etc. Most recently
there is a problem again with notifies. With orders you can simply check your
order detail page and see if there is something new on there. But with notifies
if you do not receive an email you have nothing. No idea whether the messages
went out nor to how many buyers. And even more importantly you cannot re-do it.
Opportunity lost for both your store and of course, Bricklink. Quite a dilemma
really as apart from your store page (And that is more than limited for this
day and age)there is no other marketing tool available to sellers.

What if the following were implemented

Create a notify log similar to the part out log (which is pretty underwhelming,
but at least it is something).

The notifies log could be created using a query on the SQL transaction log and
it could look something like this in the first instance:

Date No Lots (uniques) No Notifies Status
20/03/2021 333 1257 Success
21/03/2021 158 754 Success

This might take a non-sql person an hour or so to write the code but it would
be worth its weight in gold to sellers. The no of notifies could be a link to
the calendar file which shows the uniques listed and the status, provided it
shows success at least lets you know they were sent out.

Any thoughts?

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Feb 22, 2021 06:15

Subject:

Re: Brexit

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Topic:

In Suggestions, bje writes:

In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:

In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:

...

The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.

All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.

So, what does the seller's invoice look like?

The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com

If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK)

Hmm, no actually, irrespective of admin says, there is something called a law.

As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.

If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.

If they jumped the gun and thought they are the same as an American marketplace
for sales tax purposes, then they should just say so and fix it. It does not
take months and years to fix either. Tax is after all a question of law and fact.
If you factually do not meet the requirements for a legal registration, then
you go change it until you meet what is required. This is not a tax issue, it
is not a tax expert issue, it is not an HMRC issue, it is not even a VAT issue.
It is a management issue which must be managed for the benefit for all stakeholders.

Here is what an online marketplace for UK VAT purposes is - note the requirements
must ALL be met, else the platform cannot collect VAT as a platform and can only
collect VAT on their own turnover.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
What is a marketplace?
"HMRC’s definition of an online marketplace is a business using a website
or mobile phone app (such as a marketplace, platform or portal) to handle the
sale of goods to customers which meets all of the following conditions:

in any way sets the terms and conditions on how goods are supplied to the
customer
is involved in any way in authorising or facilitating customers’ payments
is involved in the ordering or delivery of the goods

A business will not be classed as an online marketplace if it only provides one
of the following services:

processing of payments for the supply of the goods to the customer
listing or advertisement of goods
redirection or transferring of customers to other websites or mobile phone
apps where goods are offered for sale, without any further involvement in any
sale that might take place on that website or app"

then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.

It would be dependent on what the domestic situation is for fulfillment partners
in terms of the actual laws enacted. Here, the platform takes the sale, is responsible
and collects and pays VAT, irrespective if the local partner is registered or
not. The VAT status of the domestic partner is immaterial.

With all due respect, that is what XP will be anyway, and because they are dumping
all the V3 stuff to the classic site to amke XP work, it will have to go that
way. What is the use of saying you do not have to have onsite as a store, but
then buyers cannot checkout if you do not have onsite?

Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.

I don't think there is a development team. There is a maintenance team (probably
plumbers) who comes in once a month and sweeps the floor.

Hi Jean trust you are keeping safe and well

I pretty much agree with all you are saying but even that leaves all kinds of
questions. How have they registered as an OMP or not - they haven't said
directly. Russell has maintained in several threads and messages that the UK
will be treated differently to the EU. We will see about that.

As for collecting vat on orders he has denied that on several occasions. Hard
to go back on that now and it would be worse than spaghetti code trying to sort
that out. UK sellers prices are inclusive of VAT otherwise the seller is writing
off 20^ off the top and that is not healthy. So major changes would have to be
put in place to create fairness and transparency in pricing.

As for xp it has now been around for several years and to be honest we have nothing
- the claims that it will sit alongside classic are just to keep stores happy
as no one wants to maintain 2 separate systems. XP, in ours, and many others
opinions will not succeed for the majority of parts stores - it might work for
sets and one time buyers but the concept is wrong and unless they go back to
the drawing board (and they are not known for doing that) it will kill the site,
in our opinion or at least change the dimensions.

Having said all that the crystal ball is very murky over this entire thing. Lack
of detailed communication and much speculation just creates 'fake news'
really and we have had enough of that.

They definitely need to work more closely with the 'stakeholders' which
we thought would happen when TLG took over, but Bricklink are a small element
of a very large corporation so how much weight they carry remains to be seen.

Anyway take care of yourself and family - get your jab when you can and in the
meantime keep safe

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Feb 22, 2021 03:56

Subject:

Re: Brexit

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Topic:

In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:

In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:

In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]

Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:

If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"

It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.

From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"

Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?

Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".

http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/

These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.

The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.

All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.

So, what does the seller's invoice look like?

The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com

If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK) then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.

Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.

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calsbricks

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Feb 21, 2021 09:02

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In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:

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Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten

Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.

I think they already had websites with timezones in 2004..

TLG had big plans with BrickLink but is choking now..

BrickLink is busy with USA sales taxes, we really should not expect multitasking
in their attempts to break things. They did say they will address the Brexit
issues before 5 February (they did not say which aeon though).

No, we should expect. After all we pay fees for this site. It was long time known
Brexit was coming, they should have been ready for it.

As almost everyone on this forum knows I am not Bricklink's biggest fan as
far as developmenet work goes however I think in this case it is fair to say
that the UK hasn't yet got it right and neither does the rest of the EU -
Just look at the below from a site we use regularly. (Don't forget we still
have VAT to look forward to

Yes, true. UK hasn't got it on the track. EU does however. On the short term
EU draws the longest straw, more and more companies are moving away from UK in
favor of EU or elsewhere. That is a loss for the UK regrettably, but needles
to say UK wanted the Brexit no the EU. On the long run it is inconclusive if
this development is a good thing. Cooperation is imo the better road how complicated
it might be.

So maybe it is the best of worst to exclude UK for now. Until they got their
things together. But I give you this, it is very complicated.

We will bide our time before we make up our mind on the way forward - a lot depends
o how BL deal with it and that, according to them, is still pretty much unknown.

We have turned away a few orders since Jan 1 from different areas in the EU -
ione we processed and a simple cn22 - posted it and the buyer got it in good
time and here were no snags (Switzerland - which isn't really part of the
EU but all went okay).

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calsbricks

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Feb 21, 2021 05:18

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