| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | tcoats  | | Posted: | Dec 10, 2012 14:45 | | Subject: | Re: Please clearly define "custom" | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Is anyone else having the problem with trouble makers deleting items from your
inventory by falsely claiming it is a custom item when it is just an item from
the catalog with a note on it. I consider anyone being able to delete items
from my account to be a MAJOR security hole and need to have the ability to deny
such requests.
The rules of the site state that ALL items listed must be Lego brand. I am not
listing non-Lego items, just incomplete figures or items with notes on them.
This does not make them custom items.
A custom item is a set you created or a figure you painted to look like Cher
or George Washington or something. I consider customs items to have a creative
aspect, not be non-Lego or homemade part shapes and sizes.
The ones that really get me are Pico-Cricket parts. They have actual LEGO brand
parts attached to them sometimes, but they are not in the Bricklink catalog because
they are technically from another company. If the Lego company is actually letting
Pico-Cricket use their parts under a license I could see putting those in the
Bricklink catalog, but they are very odd exception to most of what people have
been talking about.
In Suggestions, firefly writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, firefly writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, LEtgomyeGO writes:
| | My position has nothing to do with "like" or "not like." My suggestion for a
method to determine what can or can not be listed has to do with the using the
"Item for Sale Listing Policy" of Bricklink.
If the items being considered have, as their primary purpose, to be "used
with LEGO or to supplement a Lego collection" - then they're okay. If they don't
they're not.
Whether or not someone "likes" the item or not.
I'm pretty sure if you ask makers of sports cards what the "primary purpose"
is of their product, they're not going to say, "To be used with LEGO or to supplement
a Lego collection."
It's not whether the person buying or selling thinks the item will be "used with
LEGO or to supplement a Lego collection" - it's whether or not the individual
or company making the item has that intention.
David
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Based on your definition above, can you say with certainty that the owners of
MegaBrands never made their product to be used with Lego or to supplement a Lego
Collection?
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You are now forgetting the "primary purpose" language. What is it with people
being selectively blind while reading
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I am not being selective or blind about it, I'm disagreeing with you.
I'm arguing that one can make a case that MegaBloks can have "something to do"
with Lego
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You've just proved my point: of course you can make a case about the "something
to do with". But that isn't how it's written. It's written to include considering
"primary purpose". You really think you can get away with "Mega Brands products
have the primary purpose of working with LEGO brand products"?
| | You are suggesting that no one could possibly have the opinion that MegaBloks
has something to do with Lego,
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I'm suggesting no such thing. I don't think anybody here ever did.
| | but as soon as you have a MB product that can
help out a Lego MOC, you've established a connection.
I'd cut that statement off at this
"LEGO Products Only - All items listed for sale on this site must be the LEGO
product..
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Well then, don't cut it off there and presumably you'll have an easier time understanding
how to employ what *is* written. But apparently not. But I still think
Dan was a genius at getting such things worded exactly how he meant them.
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"Something" to do with it is very vague and if you can make an argument for manufactured
mud bricks, I can mirror that with Tyco, MegaBloks, what have you.
| | "LEGO Products Only - All items listed for sale on this site must be the LEGO
product or have something to do with it. Other brand products such as MegaBloks
are not allowed on this site. For custom items without original LEGO content,
the item's primary purpose must be to be used with LEGO or to supplement a Lego
collection."
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Is it like the selective omission of "as part of a duly constituted militia"
when USAians argue about their 2nd Amendment?
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Mega Bloks will never reference Lego on their site, it's not good for their brand
and they have no permission to do so from Lego..
But they were created as a lower cost alternative.. Why else make them the same
size as Lego.. They could have made bricks 4 plates high, not 3.. could have
made the studs bigger or smaller, but they didn't.
Mega Bloks probably likes nothing better than to put on the same plane as Lego.
half of local ads that I see for Mega bloks references this too, "compatible
with Lego", "Just like Lego", "Fits with lego"
they may not outwardly say they are to be used with Lego, but you know that was
their goal.
The progression here at Bricklink, in my eyes of course,
Brickarms.. - ok, not so bad, can be used with Lego
East Asian weapons and shields..- same as above.
East Asian 'mud bricks' - err, ok, well, Lego has never done mud bricks, I suppose
that's ok.
Lego Elements in other colours - I guess since Lego never made them in that colour,
they could be ok.
oops.. Lego elements in production colours - ok.. that passed the line. perhaps.
The trouble with people, especially when money is involved, you draw a line,
someone will push forward, just to make sure that line is solid.. and if it's
not, then it's good for them.
Monorail tracks (home made) supplement Lego products.. lego doesn't make them
anymore, so is that fair game?
Light Bluish Grey masts.. Lego only made them in one set, no sign that they will
do so again, is that fine?
if it wasn't already shown that people can't handle a light line, it'd be fine
leaving it at your definition, but if you can say that a single Mega Bloks element
supplements a Lego project, you've opened the door.
and in the case of the bricks from Taiwan, they sell nothing Lego on the site..
They are (as per their terms) a "MANUFACTURER". Their bricks can be used with
Lego.. MeagBrands is a manufacturer, their bricks can be used with Lego.
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