Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | anathema | Posted: | Jul 10, 2019 02:54 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 10242-1 | Viewed: | 18 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Plastikean writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Trans-Black {2694 Windscreen 3 x 10 x 3 to 24607 Windscreen 2 x 10 x 3}
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See the information here: https://brickset.com/sets/list-18333/page-4
The above parts should be added as an alternate, not a change.
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Author: | Plastikean | Posted: | Jul 10, 2019 02:26 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 10242-1 | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Trans-Black {2694 Windscreen 3 x 10 x 3 to 24607 Windscreen 2 x 10 x 3}
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Author: | zorbanj | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 22:17 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1060-1 | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, zorbanyc writes:
| Ok, how do I post images? Do I email them to someone?
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You can email them to inv@bricklink.com
Cheers,
Randy
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I just emailed the images.
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Author: | bje | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 16:11 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41357-1 | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Minifig frnd325 Friends Zobo the Robot, Roller Skate
* Delete 1 Part 11253 Black Minifigure, Footgear Roller Skate
* Delete 4 Part 3024 Dark Azure Plate 1 x 1
* Delete 1 Part 30162 Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Utensil Binoculars Town
* Delete 2 Part 61252 Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Horizontal (thick open O clip)
* Delete 1 Part 4733 White Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Studs on 4 Sides
* Delete 1 Part 4073 Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 3 Part 3024 Dark Azure Plate 1 x 1
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 13:28 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1060-1 | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, zorbanyc writes:
| Ok, how do I post images? Do I email them to someone?
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You can email them to inv@bricklink.com
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | zorbanj | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 13:12 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1060-1 | Viewed: | 27 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| Ok, how do I post images? Do I email them to someone?
In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| In Inventories Requests, zorbanyc writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 6 Part 3031 Light Gray Plate 4 x 4
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I see that you have a new set for sale in your store. I assume that set is the
source for this request?
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Maybe some pictures with detail from the 4x4 plates (time area...)?
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Yes, I would also like to see some images of this.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | Andrsv | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 13:06 | Subject: | Re: What sets could I build from my inventory | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, szellandor writes:
| Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets
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Don't get your hopes up. I've bought a lot of bulk lego (from Norwegian
site finn.no). Many claims that "all parts are probably there, but I can't
guarantee". Out of 100sets, there could be maybe 3-5complete sets. Most sets
have unique or rare parts, so it didn't help me much to have 5000 unique
spare parts. Rebrickable.com is great for finding what you can build, but you
will probably need some spare parts from bricklink 😉
2years ago I was doing what you probably are doing now. Then I got this idea
that it would be fun to have as many unique bricks as possible so that I could
build whatever I want whenever I want. Doesn't seem like it is going to happen,
I'm at about 10.000 unique now.
Have fun
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 12:53 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| I agree. Most customers buying new parts expect me to take the new parts as supplied
by LEGO and send those. They do not expect me to assemble them. But I cannot
sell the parts that LEGO supplied here, I have to sell either a combination of
them or pull them apart. There is no option to sell it as it was originally supplied.
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My first reply to you was just an answer to your question. I do not agree with
the inconsistency, also, but I am not a catalog associate yet who can do anything
about it. I would be happy to have Marek add it to the Catalog Roadmap for consideration
of being worked on, but it would be rather low on the priority list. Although,
it would not be a big issue to tackle, so could be done rather quickly.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | 62Bricks | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 10:21 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| It is what lego supplied. It has two arms, just no robot arm / claw extension.
I don't know if there is a market for it, as it cannot be sold that way.
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Isn't what Lego supplies what is in the picture, just not all put together?
You just said it has two arms, but it doesn't unless you are counting the
unattached robot arm and claw. The catalog picture for a minifigure shows the
minifigure assembled. Most catalog pictures for sets show the set assembled.
But your customers are not expecting you to take what Lego supplied and assemble
it for them like the picture.
| And there are plenty of listings for torsos without arms, whether there is a
market for them or not. They all get catalogued even though this is not how lego
supply them. Yet these pieces don't get listed as they are supplied - but
do get catalogued if you either add another part or remove some parts.
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Yes, there are listings for EVERY torso with arms. While Lego never supplied
them with no arms and the market for unattached torsos varies greaty among them,
the point of having every torso in the catalog is that every torso is a discrete
Lego element. The catalog tries to contain every discrete Lego element, but
has always been cautious about having listings for combinations of pieces. A
full minifig, yes. Some big figs and brickbuilt animals now, yes. Combined
turntables that sometimes came assembled in sets, yes. Some combinations that
are hard to take back apart without damage, yes. But some minifig parts in an
obviously incomplete assembly because Lego supplied them? I don't see the
point and it opens a giant can of worms. Did you know that through the 80s and
90s, minifig torsos usually came with their heads attached? Should we have a
listing for each of those head/torso combinations because Lego supplied them
that way? Does anyone really want a head and torso with no hat or legs? Or
a torso with 1 arm and 1 hand? I doubt it unless the price is very low.
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I think the "can of worms" is when BL makes exceptions based on precedent in
one case, but ignores precedent in other cases. The squishy definition of what
merits a separate entry in the catalog is part of what has led to issues like
this.
There may indeed be people who want to buy the torso/head assemblies from the
older sets, and there would be no harm in adding them to the catalog and including
them in inventories. But an exception has been made. We are told that some assemblies
need to be deleted from the catalog because they were never packaged that way,
yet some assemblies that were issued as new are not? Why is that?
Well, it isn't based on what people want, obviously. The market for 1x1 round
plates on the sprue is tiny compared to that for the individual plates, yet that
is the part inventoried in sets where it appeared. The market for the 1x4 hinge
assembly is many times larger than the market for the individual pieces, yet
the assembly is marked for deletion.
Consistent application of a set of simple guidelines would eliminate a lot of
these issues. In the past - and even now - it seems when faced with conflicts
like this the admins have chosen to add complexity rather than opt for simplicity.
Either way is going to result in apparent inconsistencies, but the way that requires
the least amount of waffling and explanation is preferable, in my opinion.
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 09:26 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | You just said it has two arms, but it doesn't unless you are counting the
unattached robot arm and claw.
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I make that two arms.
| The catalog picture for a minifigure shows the
minifigure assembled. Most catalog pictures for sets show the set assembled.
But your customers are not expecting you to take what Lego supplied and assemble
it for them like the picture.
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I agree. Most customers buying new parts expect me to take the new parts as supplied
by LEGO and send those. They do not expect me to assemble them. But I cannot
sell the parts that LEGO supplied here, I have to sell either a combination of
them or pull them apart. There is no option to sell it as it was originally supplied.
It is the inconsistency that is a problem. Going back to the sprues, LEGO did
not intend them to be used according to the pictures of the sets. But BL catalogues
these parts as coming on a sprue. They are listed as coming that way in the set,
whether or not all the parts are needed. There is an option to sell the parts
connected to a sprue (or in a bag) as supplied or sell the parts individually.
Whereas here, they are not listed as they come in the set. There is no option
to sell the parts as supplied.
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 09:06 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| It is what lego supplied. It has two arms, just no robot arm / claw extension.
I don't know if there is a market for it, as it cannot be sold that way.
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Isn't what Lego supplies what is in the picture, just not all put together?
You just said it has two arms, but it doesn't unless you are counting the
unattached robot arm and claw. The catalog picture for a minifigure shows the
minifigure assembled. Most catalog pictures for sets show the set assembled.
But your customers are not expecting you to take what Lego supplied and assemble
it for them like the picture.
| And there are plenty of listings for torsos without arms, whether there is a
market for them or not. They all get catalogued even though this is not how lego
supply them. Yet these pieces don't get listed as they are supplied - but
do get catalogued if you either add another part or remove some parts.
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Yes, there are listings for EVERY torso with arms. While Lego never supplied
them with no arms and the market for unattached torsos varies greaty among them,
the point of having every torso in the catalog is that every torso is a discrete
Lego element. The catalog tries to contain every discrete Lego element, but
has always been cautious about having listings for combinations of pieces. A
full minifig, yes. Some big figs and brickbuilt animals now, yes. Combined
turntables that sometimes came assembled in sets, yes. Some combinations that
are hard to take back apart without damage, yes. But some minifig parts in an
obviously incomplete assembly because Lego supplied them? I don't see the
point and it opens a giant can of worms. Did you know that through the 80s and
90s, minifig torsos usually came with their heads attached? Should we have a
listing for each of those head/torso combinations because Lego supplied them
that way? Does anyone really want a head and torso with no hat or legs? Or
a torso with 1 arm and 1 hand? I doubt it unless the price is very low.
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 09:03 | Subject: | Re: What sets could I build from my inventory | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, szellandor writes:
| Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets
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https://rebrickable.com/
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Author: | BRICKcycling | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 09:02 | Subject: | What sets could I build from my inventory | Viewed: | 64 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets
|
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 08:44 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.
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Do you really want to sell a torso with 1 arm? Is there is a market for that?
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It is what lego supplied. It has two arms, just no robot arm / claw extension.
I don't know if there is a market for it, as it cannot be sold that way.
And there are plenty of listings for torsos without arms, whether there is a
market for them or not. They all get catalogued even though this is not how lego
supply them. Yet these pieces don't get listed as they are supplied - but
do get catalogued if you either add another part or remove some parts.
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 08:12 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.
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Do you really want to sell a torso with 1 arm? Is there is a market for that?
| It implies you have to either add the arm to the torso, or bag them separately
to keep them together, or store them unattached but need to remember to add the
robot arm, and hope the buyer finds the robot arm before complaining that it
is missing the arm.
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If you attach the arm one time, it is still new according to the rules. That
option is on the table. Bagging them separately and together are both on the
table, together being probably preferable if you are afraid the buyer will not
find the arm.
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Author: | 62Bricks | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 07:41 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
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OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?
If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
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Please don't assemble ANY of the minifig parts if you are selling it to me.
Why would this imply that anyone wanted you to do that?
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Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.
It implies you have to either add the arm to the torso, or bag them separately
to keep them together, or store them unattached but need to remember to add the
robot arm, and hope the buyer finds the robot arm before complaining that it
is missing the arm.
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Another illustrative example of why the "consistency" approach doesn't work.
In cases like this, the admins have to choose which practice to be "consistent"
with, which creates inconsistency.
The way to avoid it is to have guidelines that are as simple as possible. "Define
parts based on how they are found in a sealed set" is one simple guideline. If
we always follow that guideline, then the set inventories take care of themselves
and parting out new sets works. If we make an exception, then make more exceptions
because of that first exception, then ultimately ignore the guideline because
"That's they way we've always done it," the guideline has lost its meaning.
When faced with a dilemma like this partly-assembled torso, the decision should
be made in favor of the more basic principle, not later exceptions.
I think it is clear that many of the inconsistencies in the catalog are the result
of implementing ever-more complicated "rules" that are put in place to handle
exceptions rather than basing decisions on a few simple guidelines.
It should surprise nobody that people attracted to Lego are also really into
elaborate systems, but the secret to Lego's success as a system is that it
is not elaborate. Just a few rules create a very flexible system.
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 06:56 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
|
OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?
If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
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Please don't assemble ANY of the minifig parts if you are selling it to me.
Why would this imply that anyone wanted you to do that?
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Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.
It implies you have to either add the arm to the torso, or bag them separately
to keep them together, or store them unattached but need to remember to add the
robot arm, and hope the buyer finds the robot arm before complaining that it
is missing the arm.
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 05:45 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
|
OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?
If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
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Please don't assemble ANY of the minifig parts if you are selling it to me.
Why would this imply that anyone wanted you to do that?
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 05:28 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
|
OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?
If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 05:12 | Subject: | Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| This part is listed as
I have opened seven of the CMF versions and they do not come like this in the
set. The torso comes without the robot arm attached. Is there are reason having
only the assembly in the inventory, and not having it how it actually comes in
the CMF set?
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Precedence.
All of the other torsos that use
are handled the same way.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=62691&in=P
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | gvbricks | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 05:09 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Gear 50011 | Viewed: | 18 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory: [G=50011]
* Add 2 Part 60470b Black Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Clips Horizontal (thick open O clips) (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 2 Part Black 60470 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Clips Horizontal (thick open U clips) {match ID 0 to 2}
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 04:48 | Subject: | Benny's torso 973pb1652c02 | Viewed: | 82 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
| This part is listed as
I have opened seven of the CMF versions and they do not come like this in the
set. The torso comes without the robot arm attached. Is there are reason having
only the assembly in the inventory, and not having it how it actually comes in
the CMF set?
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Jul 8, 2019 19:24 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 1386-1 | Viewed: | 21 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part clikits040 Trans-Clear Clikits Cord, Jelly String with 2 Caps - 170mm - top attachment (match ID 1)
* Delete 1 Part clikits008 Trans-Dark Pink Clikits Bead, Ring Thick Small Double with 2 Pins (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part {Dark Pink to Magenta} clikits001 Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Large with Pin
* Change 1 Part {Light Blue to Sky Blue} clikits006 Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Large with Pin
* Change 1 Part {Medium Orange to Trans-Light Orange} clikits081 Clikits Flexy Film, Flower 10 Petals 4 x 4 with Raised Border
* Change 1 Part Trans-Pink clikits040 Clikits Cord, Jelly String with 2 Caps - 170mm - top attachment {Alternate to Regular} {match ID 1 to 0}
* Change 1 Part Trans-Pink clikits008 Clikits Bead, Ring Thick Small Double with 2 Pins {Alternate to Regular} {match ID 2 to 0}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set contents.
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Jul 8, 2019 18:48 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7531-1 | Viewed: | 20 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part clikits018 Trans-Dark Pink Clikits Cord, Jelly String with 2 Caps - 375mm - top attachment (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Trans-Pink clikits018 Clikits Cord, Jelly String with 2 Caps - 375mm - top attachment {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
My set contained dark. Much too late for a sealed pic, but I've had it under control since opening it.
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The set probably always contained Trans-Dark Pink. Since your set was sealed
and the original inventory has had so many problems corrected in it over time,
I think I will remove the Trans-Pink one altogether. If a Trans-Pink one is ever
found in the future, we can add it back in.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | Mistress_Lisa | Posted: | Jul 8, 2019 18:02 | Subject: | Re: From Champ to Loser | Viewed: | 145 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, superchicken77 writes:
| I have no idea what this is about. Can anyone enlighten me?
In Suggestions, bwes writes:
| You can buy the loser in my shop
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Maybe because the US women won the world cup by beating Netherlands 2-0?
So perhaps there are some soccer players in his inventory?
Lisa
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