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 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 18:12
 Subject: Re: A Couple New Inventory Management Tools
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  I'd like to be able to do one or both of the following:

1) Have a function to split a lot. Say I have 5 of a minifig and I decide I
want to separate two of them to possibly part out later. I'd like to have
a simple tool to make that into a lot of 3 and a lot of 2 where I can quickly
change the remarks or stockroom options, but leave everything else the same.

2) Be able to have part of a lot in the stockroom and part of it for sale. Say
I have a lot of 50 of a part, but on an inventory I only find 45 of them. 5
of them probably got stuck in the wrong place and will be found. I'd like
to be able to make that lot say I have 50, but only 45 for sale.

For 2, just change qty to 45 and leave a remark to add five when found.

I use my remarks for location and pricing. I would not want to clutter up the
remarks with more information.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 18:11
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  [… alcohol …]
This thread is getting interesting again.

Now what is all this stuff about you French buying up our cider orchards in the
south of England and turning them into vineyards for your Champagne houses? How
does that work, I thought you protected Champagne and it can only be made in..
well Champagne? Champagne region is forecast to get too warm over the next 50
years to grow the grapes we are told...

The region “expands”: in 2008, 40 communes where added to the “AOC” (controlled
designation of origin) (thanks Wikipedia).

So they still have 50 years to “move” the region!
(And reverse the Brexit or invade England, whatever is easier…)

   and someone else mentioned our cider
makers are going to Cambodia. Hmmm if the 6 month global average Lego price goes
in the opposite direction to global warming I'll be able to make a living
growing cider apples up here in the wild north (well I won't if it takes
50 years!). Now what was all this originally about, have we established you can
still buy Lego on BL yet without red and green indicators? If not can someone
please decide one way or the other, I'm more interested in the discussions
about fruit now.

I'll be back tomorrow for an update

Tomorrow’s update: you can now sell fruits and wines on BrickLink thanks to the
new application Wine.o!
 Author: electricbaer View Messages Posted By electricbaer
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 18:10
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7962-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7962  Name: Anakin's & Sebulba's Podracers
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7962-1 (Inv) Anakin's & Sebulba's Podracers
792 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2011
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Add 1 Part 85984pb156L Dark Bluish Gray Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3 with Orange Markings and Blue Rectangle Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 7962 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb570L Light Bluish Gray Tile 1 x 2 with Yellow Markings and Blue Curved and Straight Lines on Dark Bluish Gray Background Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 7962 (Counterpart)
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 18:05
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  I'd like to be able to do one or both of the following:

1) Have a function to split a lot. Say I have 5 of a minifig and I decide I
want to separate two of them to possibly part out later. I'd like to have
a simple tool to make that into a lot of 3 and a lot of 2 where I can quickly
change the remarks or stockroom options, but leave everything else the same.

2) Be able to have part of a lot in the stockroom and part of it for sale. Say
I have a lot of 50 of a part, but on an inventory I only find 45 of them. 5
of them probably got stuck in the wrong place and will be found. I'd like
to be able to make that lot say I have 50, but only 45 for sale.

For 2, just change qty to 45 and leave a remark to add five when found.

Yes, that's what I do, but it clutters up my remarks. It would be useful
for other things, too.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 17:59
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  I'd like to be able to do one or both of the following:

1) Have a function to split a lot. Say I have 5 of a minifig and I decide I
want to separate two of them to possibly part out later. I'd like to have
a simple tool to make that into a lot of 3 and a lot of 2 where I can quickly
change the remarks or stockroom options, but leave everything else the same.

2) Be able to have part of a lot in the stockroom and part of it for sale. Say
I have a lot of 50 of a part, but on an inventory I only find 45 of them. 5
of them probably got stuck in the wrong place and will be found. I'd like
to be able to make that lot say I have 50, but only 45 for sale.

For 2, just change qty to 45 and leave a remark to add five when found.
 Author: Rob_and_Shelagh View Messages Posted By Rob_and_Shelagh
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 17:45
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  How could I forget the famous Grand Marnier?

Or Cointreau. Let’s not be partial… but still French

Okay, okay, there’s also Curaçao…


Funnily, Cointreau, Curaçao, or triple sec make me think of cocktails whereas
Grand Marnier makes me think of desserts (though I don’t especially like strong
alcohol, in desserts or not).

This thread is getting interesting again.

Now what is all this stuff about you French buying up our cider orchards in the
south of England and turning them into vineyards for your Champagne houses? How
does that work, I thought you protected Champagne and it can only be made in..
well Champagne? Champagne region is forecast to get too warm over the next 50
years to grow the grapes we are told... and someone else mentioned our cider
makers are going to Cambodia. Hmmm if the 6 month global average Lego price goes
in the opposite direction to global warming I'll be able to make a living
growing cider apples up here in the wild north (well I won't if it takes
50 years!). Now what was all this originally about, have we established you can
still buy Lego on BL yet without red and green indicators? If not can someone
please decide one way or the other, I'm more interested in the discussions
about fruit now.

I'll be back tomorrow for an update

Robert
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 17:40
 Subject: Re: Another Inventory Management Suggestion
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In Suggestions, jbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  I forgot one of the things I wanted to suggest in the other post until just now:

Currently in my inventory screen I can grab all of the blue pieces or all
of the minifigs or all of the brackets or all of the used pieces and I can see
a total piece and lot count of the group or the total value of the group and
I can put all of the group on sale or delete all of the group. My I and I think
most sellers use the remarks or comments section to organize inventory. I'd
like to be able to search for everything with a certain keyword in remarks or
comments and be able to manipulate that like I can blue pieces or brackets.

You can already in the box in the right when in inventory,

just click remarks/ or comments and use the searchbox

I can do a search, but I can't see a total of pieces with the keyword or
a total price for the keyword and I can't grab them all with one checkbox
and put them on sale or delete them.
 Author: Foroglio View Messages Posted By Foroglio
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 17:40
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8472-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8472  Name: Street 'n' Mud Racer
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8472-1 (Inv) Street 'n' Mud Racer
349 Parts, 2002
Sets: Racers: Drome Racers

* Add 2 Part 32235 Flat Silver Hose, Soft Axle 19
 Author: jbricks View Messages Posted By jbricks
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 17:29
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  I forgot one of the things I wanted to suggest in the other post until just now:

Currently in my inventory screen I can grab all of the blue pieces or all
of the minifigs or all of the brackets or all of the used pieces and I can see
a total piece and lot count of the group or the total value of the group and
I can put all of the group on sale or delete all of the group. My I and I think
most sellers use the remarks or comments section to organize inventory. I'd
like to be able to search for everything with a certain keyword in remarks or
comments and be able to manipulate that like I can blue pieces or brackets.

You can already in the box in the right when in inventory,

just click remarks/ or comments and use the searchbox
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:58
 Subject: Another Inventory Management Suggestion
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I forgot one of the things I wanted to suggest in the other post until just now:

Currently in my inventory screen I can grab all of the blue pieces or all
of the minifigs or all of the brackets or all of the used pieces and I can see
a total piece and lot count of the group or the total value of the group and
I can put all of the group on sale or delete all of the group. My I and I think
most sellers use the remarks or comments section to organize inventory. I'd
like to be able to search for everything with a certain keyword in remarks or
comments and be able to manipulate that like I can blue pieces or brackets.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:56
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In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  How could I forget the famous Grand Marnier?

Or Cointreau. Let’s not be partial… but still French

Okay, okay, there’s also Curaçao…


Funnily, Cointreau, Curaçao, or triple sec make me think of cocktails whereas
Grand Marnier makes me think of desserts (though I don’t especially like strong
alcohol, in desserts or not).
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:52
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I'd like to be able to do one or both of the following:

1) Have a function to split a lot. Say I have 5 of a minifig and I decide I
want to separate two of them to possibly part out later. I'd like to have
a simple tool to make that into a lot of 3 and a lot of 2 where I can quickly
change the remarks or stockroom options, but leave everything else the same.

2) Be able to have part of a lot in the stockroom and part of it for sale. Say
I have a lot of 50 of a part, but on an inventory I only find 45 of them. 5
of them probably got stuck in the wrong place and will be found. I'd like
to be able to make that lot say I have 50, but only 45 for sale.
 Author: Daragh View Messages Posted By Daragh
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:51
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I did mention "weight or size restrictions etc etc " I didn't want to get
too much into it, but of course you are right, it is not just the weight, there
are other parameters to be set and that's how others deal with it, you can
set the dimensions available for the various postal options you want to offer.

I know that some countries offer a myriad of postal methods and to set them all
up to cover every eventuality maybe a drag for users but you just need to do
it once and then keep up to date, in return you have no more invoicing and chasing
or checking payments.

Additionally you can just set up the most common methods and weights you use
in your store and have anything outside those parameters revert to a "Request
a quote" scenario, much like the current system.



In Suggestions, Bricklord writes:
  You are 1c short of grasping the problem. Postal rate are not just determined
by weight, but by volume as well. Or are you suggesting that sellers should only
ship as parcels, regardless of how much more that will cost buyers, and thereby
discourage buyers from shopping?
 Author: Pher View Messages Posted By Pher
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:34
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How could I forget the famous Grand Marnier?

In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  […]
But oranges have a limited area where you can sell them. There are not many countries
beside the United Kingdom with a demand for oranges to make marmelade.

Nonsense, all the fruits are useful: You can make alcoholic drinks with all of
them!

  Here in the province Hessen, wine from apples is the national drink.
[…]
 Author: Grego View Messages Posted By Grego
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:31
 Subject: Re: BrickLink you are losing business
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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, wahiggin writes:
  In Suggestions, QA_Sheryl writes:
  In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
  Dear BrickLink admins and members,

We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.

Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.

What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)

Please, BrickLink do something at this.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect

Hi Niels,

As has been stated in numerous other forum posts, we are in the process of creating
Instant Checkout. Since BrickLink has been around much longer than the other
sites you mentioned, our sellers have numerous configurations and setting up
the process is much more complex. We do not want to take away anything from how
our sellers are currently using the checkout process. With this in mind, we have
made great progress in instant checkout so far and will continue to do so without
sacrificing quality. We want to make sure this feature is accurate as well as
efficient.

We appreciate your patience and understanding, but want to let you know that
we have definitely heard the cry from our users for this feature and are working
hard to get it done as soon as possible!

Thanks!

Instead of a big bang approach, maybe doing an agile effort would be more impactful.
Start by creating a feature that would work for US shippers. Give sellers an
option to remain on the legacy shipping module or turn on the new Instant Checkout
feature until it is fully implemented. Then add other countries as you go along.
Prioritize it based on sales or complexity. Ebay does it, Brickowl does it,
Amazon does it, I can go out and create a website and add it in with a simple
plug in. This should be possible on a much shorter timeframe than what we have
seen so far.


All that needs to happen is to make the Shipping Cost Estimator face the customer.
That would already work for a majority of sellers, no matter the country.


--
Marc.

Even if the customer facing cost estimator only provided "an estimate" nonbinding,
that the buyer could decide to continue, bail or message the seller to ask why
the apparent high cost ...that shouldn't be too hard to do
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:29
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In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  […]
But oranges have a limited area where you can sell them. There are not many countries
beside the United Kingdom with a demand for oranges to make marmelade.

Nonsense, all the fruits are useful: You can make alcoholic drinks with all of
them!

  Here in the province Hessen, wine from apples is the national drink.
[…]
 Author: FigBits View Messages Posted By FigBits
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:25
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In Suggestions, wahiggin writes:
  In Suggestions, QA_Sheryl writes:
  In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
  Dear BrickLink admins and members,

We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.

Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.

What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)

Please, BrickLink do something at this.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect

Hi Niels,

As has been stated in numerous other forum posts, we are in the process of creating
Instant Checkout. Since BrickLink has been around much longer than the other
sites you mentioned, our sellers have numerous configurations and setting up
the process is much more complex. We do not want to take away anything from how
our sellers are currently using the checkout process. With this in mind, we have
made great progress in instant checkout so far and will continue to do so without
sacrificing quality. We want to make sure this feature is accurate as well as
efficient.

We appreciate your patience and understanding, but want to let you know that
we have definitely heard the cry from our users for this feature and are working
hard to get it done as soon as possible!

Thanks!

Instead of a big bang approach, maybe doing an agile effort would be more impactful.
Start by creating a feature that would work for US shippers. Give sellers an
option to remain on the legacy shipping module or turn on the new Instant Checkout
feature until it is fully implemented. Then add other countries as you go along.
Prioritize it based on sales or complexity. Ebay does it, Brickowl does it,
Amazon does it, I can go out and create a website and add it in with a simple
plug in. This should be possible on a much shorter timeframe than what we have
seen so far.


All that needs to happen is to make the Shipping Cost Estimator face the customer.
That would already work for a majority of sellers, no matter the country.


--
Marc.
 Author: dashpilot View Messages Posted By dashpilot
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:20
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In Suggestions, MarshMan80 writes:
  Why then did you leave the sell positive feedback "good seller; item as advertised
and in good condition"
If it was a defective/ fake item. Your feedback does not look like your un happy
with the item you bought. Have you contacted the seller? What does he have to
say about this? His other feed back reviews look good.

Marshal

Why do people counterfeit goods? Because they want to make money fast and easily.
They also need to make sure their product is cheap enough to entice people to
purchase it instead of the genuine product. With that said, if someone put all
that effort into producing such a high quality set it would have likely ended
up costing them more than Lego to produce it simply because Lego is set up to
produce the equipment and tooling required to produce the parts. Plus they produce
tons and tons and tons more than any counterfeiter ever would thus, to turn a
profit the counterfeiter would have charge more than a genuine product. Which
would then defeat the purpose of counterfeiting.

Secondly, contact the seller, I'm fairly new here, I've had some minor
issues on orders here and there, and I have had all good experiences, they more
than took care of me, even though a few times it actually erased all their profit
to set things right.

But hey those are my two cents.
 Author: Pher View Messages Posted By Pher
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:16
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  There's no way anyone makes a living selling apples these days. Oranges,
that's where you should be investing.

But oranges have a limited area where you can sell them. There are not many countries
beside the United Kingdom with a demand for oranges to make marmelade.

Here in the province Hessen, wine from apples is the national drink.

I would give you some oranges for your apples, keeping money aside. There are
even two nice German sausages in my store (below 6 months average price).
 Author: wahiggin View Messages Posted By wahiggin
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 16:07
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In Suggestions, QA_Sheryl writes:
  In Suggestions, BricksDirect writes:
  Dear BrickLink admins and members,

We see it every day. BrickLink is losing business because it's still not
possible to pay immediately after checkout. We have to cancel our orders because
new members can't find shipping fees. They expect that the shipping fee will
be automically displayed when they put items in their shopping cart. The also
expect that they can pay immediately for their orders. The way it is going now
is way too complicated for new members.

Why is it so hard to create software to let members pay immediately and tell
them the shipping fee. BrickOwl and BrickScout are doing it. They are taking
BrickLink's business over.

What I hear from other sellers is that it's impossible to create it because
not al items have their weight in the BrickLink catalog. Why not solve this with
a standard weight for items that don't have their weight in the BrickLink
catalog? (0.5KG for a set, 0.2KG for a part etc.)

Please, BrickLink do something at this.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Niels Roest
Owner of BricksDirect

Hi Niels,

As has been stated in numerous other forum posts, we are in the process of creating
Instant Checkout. Since BrickLink has been around much longer than the other
sites you mentioned, our sellers have numerous configurations and setting up
the process is much more complex. We do not want to take away anything from how
our sellers are currently using the checkout process. With this in mind, we have
made great progress in instant checkout so far and will continue to do so without
sacrificing quality. We want to make sure this feature is accurate as well as
efficient.

We appreciate your patience and understanding, but want to let you know that
we have definitely heard the cry from our users for this feature and are working
hard to get it done as soon as possible!

Thanks!

Instead of a big bang approach, maybe doing an agile effort would be more impactful.
Start by creating a feature that would work for US shippers. Give sellers an
option to remain on the legacy shipping module or turn on the new Instant Checkout
feature until it is fully implemented. Then add other countries as you go along.
Prioritize it based on sales or complexity. Ebay does it, Brickowl does it,
Amazon does it, I can go out and create a website and add it in with a simple
plug in. This should be possible on a much shorter timeframe than what we have
seen so far.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Mar 22, 2017 14:53
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In Suggestions, ona7 writes:
  In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  
(snapped)

It is a partly random number that influences the feeling of a buyer whether a
deal is good or not. I usually don't use this feature because I have other
priorities when buying.

Imagine you buy a pack of apples. Every month. They cost always 2$. One day they
offer leftovers or promotion-bags or whatever you can imagine better. The bag
costs now 0.10$. From now on you will always see a 2$ (1.68$ average price, +18.8%)
tag beside the apples.

What does this help you? What does it do to the market?
Please think about it. You might find some answers in yourself.

I don’t buy one apple. I buy lots of apples. I buy lots of different kinds
of apples. Lately I’ve been buying pearl gold apples because I’m working on
a pearl gold apple pie. Every day I would come over to the Orchard and buy these
apples and they’re always $2.00. Every day when I go to purchase these apples
I would see their price at $2.00 and next to it I would see average price, which
was also $2.00. One day someone shows up at the Orchard with left over pearl
gold apples from the pearl gold apple pie that they baked and they’re listing
their pearl gold apples for $0.10. That’s a great deal! It’s so great that
someone buys them right away and it drags the average price of pearl gold apples
to $1.05 ($2.00 plus $0.10 divided by 2. I’m not sure where $1.68 came from
but the premise is the same). So today I show up at the Orchard to buy my pearl
gold apples and I see a price of $2.00 and an average price of $1.05. $1.05?!
Well I want the $1.05 apples so I look around and I can’t find them. Someone
purchased them yesterday. They didn’t actually purchase $1.05 pearl gold apples
they purchased $0.10 pearl gold apples but I don’t know that. It’s a $0.95 difference
and I’m committed to my pearl gold apple pie so I purchase the $2.00 pearl gold
apples. The average price just went up to $1.36. Another apple seller shows
up at the Orchard and they have pearl gold apples they want to sell. They go
to list them and they see that the average price is $1.36 and they laugh and
laugh. They say to themselves ‘There is no way I can list my pearl gold apples
for $1.36, what exactly are pearl gold apples going for?’ So they look and they
see that only one seller has pearl gold apples and they’re selling them for $2.00.
The seller says to themselves ‘I can’t list my apples for $1.36, I’ll never
make a profit. But I can list them for $1.75. It’s a little lower then I’d
want and it’s higher than the average price, but it’s lower than listed price
so I know I’ll move them faster and still make a profit.’ I come back to the
Orchard because I am obsessed with my pearl gold apple pie, it’s gonna be the
best pearl gold apple pie ever! I see pearl gold apples for $2.00 and an average
price of $1.36. That’s different than yesterday, the average price changed.
There is movement in the pearl gold apple market. I’m going to move with it.
I look around and lo and behold I find $1.75 pearl gold apples. I buy them.
The average price just went up to $1.46. Another seller shows up with pearl
gold apple pies and this seller has got promos. They go to list their pearl
gold apple pies and see the average price of $1.46 and they laugh and laugh and
they say to themselves ‘There are 2 sellers out here with pearl gold apples and
pearl gold apples are not special, I got promos I can list these for a $1.00
and make a profit.’ The average price drops again to $1.37. The market is saturated
with pearl gold apples and the average price keeps dropping. I show up and I
see pearl gold apples for $2.00, $1.75 and $1.00 with an average price of $1.37.
Everyone has been buying the $1.00 and dude only has one left. Today I need
2 pearl gold apples. So I buy 2 pearl gold apples from the $1.75 seller. Don’t
you know the average price went up again to $1.48. At this point the $2.00 pearl
gold apple seller is like ‘This is ridiculous. Pearl gold apples are not a $1.48,
I have been selling pearl gold apples for $2.00 since Britany shaved her head.
It’s not fair that the market has become saturated with pearl gold apples.
It’s not fair that other sellers are able to sell pearl gold apples for less
than $2.00 and still make a profit. I should make the profit. I was here first
and I know the true value of pearl gold apples.’ So he just leans back and watches.
Everyone is buying and selling pearl gold apples left and right. It’s a booming,
bustling market and it’s moving on without him. He keeps watching and he notices
the market isn’t as saturated with pearl gold apples anymore. Everyone has been
buying them cheap and inventory is running thin. And the $2.00 apple seller
says to himself ‘I know the true value of pearl gold apples. The true value
is $5.00.’ I show up at the Orchard and I see pearl gold apples for $0.10 (dude
is back with more leftovers), $1.00, $1.75, $5.00. This market is crazy, this
market is out the box. I need some type of guide to tell me what’s what because
dude with the $0.10 only has 1 left, dude with $1.00 has 2 and $1.75 dude has
1. The $5.00 pearl gold apple seller has 50 pearl gold apples. So I look at
the average price of $1.48 and that $1.48 tells me that in the last 6 months
the market was saturated with pearl gold apples. Pearl gold apples will probably
never sell for $1.48, it’s an average price not an actual price. I know this,
I’m using the average price to gauge prices. And that average price tells me
that pearl gold apples are nowhere near $5.00. So I walk away. I come back
the next day and the average price is gone. I see 1 or 2 apples selling for
dirt cheap and I see 50 selling for a $5.00. If I was new I was assume that
the average price of pearl gold apples was $5.00 because that’s what the market
is saturated with – expensive pearl gold apples. But I’m not new. I’ve been
to this Orchard before and I remember that the average price is about $1.48.
So I look over at the $5.00 pearl gold apple seller and I’m like “What’s up
with the price? Isn’t the average price about $1.48?” The $5.00 pearl gold
apple seller looks me right in the eye and stone cold says “The average price
is an arbitrary number and is not the true value of pearl gold apples. I know
the true value. The true value is $5.00. If you don’t want to pay $5.00 then
you don’t know the true value and you don’t want these pearl gold apples bad
enough.”

I just look back at him and blink.

Enjoyed this post, and the conversation in general. I buy apples, selling only
what I can't eat and only to buy my other ingredients.

The quick average comparison helped buying the most apples and other ingredients
for my money. Now I have to check averages manually, I might pass on one vendor
just because their butter is higher and since I just use that as my test, I shop
elsewhere where the apples and butter are always cheaper (big box); but at the
first vendor the flour and nutmeg are in fact cheaper.

In the end, can't see how this helps the buyer, only those looking to profit
and do not enjoy LEGO as a hobby.

I really do not understand what the problem is.

All the information is still available, just on a different screen which actually
has a lot more information so you can actually know which prices you are comparing.

In the old system you could be comparing ripe pearl gold apples at $2.00 with
rotten red apples for $0.10 without knowing it.
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
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(snapped)

It is a partly random number that influences the feeling of a buyer whether a
deal is good or not. I usually don't use this feature because I have other
priorities when buying.

Imagine you buy a pack of apples. Every month. They cost always 2$. One day they
offer leftovers or promotion-bags or whatever you can imagine better. The bag
costs now 0.10$. From now on you will always see a 2$ (1.68$ average price, +18.8%)
tag beside the apples.

What does this help you? What does it do to the market?
Please think about it. You might find some answers in yourself.

I don’t buy one apple. I buy lots of apples. I buy lots of different kinds
of apples. Lately I’ve been buying pearl gold apples because I’m working on
a pearl gold apple pie. Every day I would come over to the Orchard and buy these
apples and they’re always $2.00. Every day when I go to purchase these apples
I would see their price at $2.00 and next to it I would see average price, which
was also $2.00. One day someone shows up at the Orchard with left over pearl
gold apples from the pearl gold apple pie that they baked and they’re listing
their pearl gold apples for $0.10. That’s a great deal! It’s so great that
someone buys them right away and it drags the average price of pearl gold apples
to $1.05 ($2.00 plus $0.10 divided by 2. I’m not sure where $1.68 came from
but the premise is the same). So today I show up at the Orchard to buy my pearl
gold apples and I see a price of $2.00 and an average price of $1.05. $1.05?!
Well I want the $1.05 apples so I look around and I can’t find them. Someone
purchased them yesterday. They didn’t actually purchase $1.05 pearl gold apples
they purchased $0.10 pearl gold apples but I don’t know that. It’s a $0.95 difference
and I’m committed to my pearl gold apple pie so I purchase the $2.00 pearl gold
apples. The average price just went up to $1.36. Another apple seller shows
up at the Orchard and they have pearl gold apples they want to sell. They go
to list them and they see that the average price is $1.36 and they laugh and
laugh. They say to themselves ‘There is no way I can list my pearl gold apples
for $1.36, what exactly are pearl gold apples going for?’ So they look and they
see that only one seller has pearl gold apples and they’re selling them for $2.00.
The seller says to themselves ‘I can’t list my apples for $1.36, I’ll never
make a profit. But I can list them for $1.75. It’s a little lower then I’d
want and it’s higher than the average price, but it’s lower than listed price
so I know I’ll move them faster and still make a profit.’ I come back to the
Orchard because I am obsessed with my pearl gold apple pie, it’s gonna be the
best pearl gold apple pie ever! I see pearl gold apples for $2.00 and an average
price of $1.36. That’s different than yesterday, the average price changed.
There is movement in the pearl gold apple market. I’m going to move with it.
I look around and lo and behold I find $1.75 pearl gold apples. I buy them.
The average price just went up to $1.46. Another seller shows up with pearl
gold apple pies and this seller has got promos. They go to list their pearl
gold apple pies and see the average price of $1.46 and they laugh and laugh and
they say to themselves ‘There are 2 sellers out here with pearl gold apples and
pearl gold apples are not special, I got promos I can list these for a $1.00
and make a profit.’ The average price drops again to $1.37. The market is saturated
with pearl gold apples and the average price keeps dropping. I show up and I
see pearl gold apples for $2.00, $1.75 and $1.00 with an average price of $1.37.
Everyone has been buying the $1.00 and dude only has one left. Today I need
2 pearl gold apples. So I buy 2 pearl gold apples from the $1.75 seller. Don’t
you know the average price went up again to $1.48. At this point the $2.00 pearl
gold apple seller is like ‘This is ridiculous. Pearl gold apples are not a $1.48,
I have been selling pearl gold apples for $2.00 since Britany shaved her head.
It’s not fair that the market has become saturated with pearl gold apples.
It’s not fair that other sellers are able to sell pearl gold apples for less
than $2.00 and still make a profit. I should make the profit. I was here first
and I know the true value of pearl gold apples.’ So he just leans back and watches.
Everyone is buying and selling pearl gold apples left and right. It’s a booming,
bustling market and it’s moving on without him. He keeps watching and he notices
the market isn’t as saturated with pearl gold apples anymore. Everyone has been
buying them cheap and inventory is running thin. And the $2.00 apple seller
says to himself ‘I know the true value of pearl gold apples. The true value
is $5.00.’ I show up at the Orchard and I see pearl gold apples for $0.10 (dude
is back with more leftovers), $1.00, $1.75, $5.00. This market is crazy, this
market is out the box. I need some type of guide to tell me what’s what because
dude with the $0.10 only has 1 left, dude with $1.00 has 2 and $1.75 dude has
1. The $5.00 pearl gold apple seller has 50 pearl gold apples. So I look at
the average price of $1.48 and that $1.48 tells me that in the last 6 months
the market was saturated with pearl gold apples. Pearl gold apples will probably
never sell for $1.48, it’s an average price not an actual price. I know this,
I’m using the average price to gauge prices. And that average price tells me
that pearl gold apples are nowhere near $5.00. So I walk away. I come back
the next day and the average price is gone. I see 1 or 2 apples selling for
dirt cheap and I see 50 selling for a $5.00. If I was new I was assume that
the average price of pearl gold apples was $5.00 because that’s what the market
is saturated with – expensive pearl gold apples. But I’m not new. I’ve been
to this Orchard before and I remember that the average price is about $1.48.
So I look over at the $5.00 pearl gold apple seller and I’m like “What’s up
with the price? Isn’t the average price about $1.48?” The $5.00 pearl gold
apple seller looks me right in the eye and stone cold says “The average price
is an arbitrary number and is not the true value of pearl gold apples. I know
the true value. The true value is $5.00. If you don’t want to pay $5.00 then
you don’t know the true value and you don’t want these pearl gold apples bad
enough.”

I just look back at him and blink.

Enjoyed this post, and the conversation in general. I buy apples, selling only
what I can't eat and only to buy my other ingredients.

The quick average comparison helped buying the most apples and other ingredients
for my money. Now I have to check averages manually, I might pass on one vendor
just because their butter is higher and since I just use that as my test, I shop
elsewhere where the apples and butter are always cheaper (big box); but at the
first vendor the flour and nutmeg are in fact cheaper.

In the end, can't see how this helps the buyer, only those looking to profit
and do not enjoy LEGO as a hobby.
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I can highly recommend the book (or talks on youtube) "Predictabily Irrational"
from the Harvard professor Dan Ariely

In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  
  I just look back at him and blink.

I do the same

Here the price is quite seasonal and varies dependent on the weather

I've learn't to live with it but it would be really great if there were
no seasons...hang on, I quite like the seasons really

sometimes I have to settle for green ones

the green ones aren't so shiny though

perhaps I should use one of those price comparison sites... hmm maybe not, nearly
got ripped off on my car insurance using one of those last year, cheapest result
was actually significantly more expensive than what I eventually paid and was
a crap policy (another story but people probably don't want me to write an
essay on it)

what the??? is this place going insane? No, it might look that way but there
are 10's of thousands of people going about their business as usual in the
transacting sections, probably that fake news phenomena thingy on the internet.

never mind worse things in the news to be concerned about today, "I'm out"
as they say, got to post all those packages.

Robert
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In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:
  
There you go again ignoring the sensible arguments and ranting about... whatever...
you're only damaging your own interest...

Bless your heart
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  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  Because it's easy.
There are a lot of manual things to do with having a store, people probably just
want one mindless thing to do.

But pricing is probably the most important, right?

I often use the six month average to part out, but as a baseline for cheap parts
I cannot be bothered to price manually.

If I have 10 of something that have sold for the 6 month average of 3p each,
then I'm not going to bother looking into pricing. I'll list at that
price. I might be able to do two minutes worth of work and decide I might be
able to get 4p instead, but it is not worth it. Same idea if I have one thing
with an average of 50p - if I could have got 60p with a bit more effort, so what.
Whereas if I have have 100 of something with an average of 50p, then I'll
spend a bit more time on the price of those. And for minifigures I always do
a bit more manual analysis, looking at what is available, what the sales rates
are, thinking about what other stock might be listed soon (is it a current or
old set), etc. I find it probably saves 90% of the time compared to if I manually
priced each part individually.

It is also a good tool for deciding what not to sell when parting out. If I see
something is worth only a small amount on average and there is a possibility
I might use it, I'll just delete it from the part out and keep it. I find
I often build up personal bins full of small parts this way, that I then go on
to use for greebling or other details on models.

OK thanks, that makes a lot of sense. With cheap common parts we usually list
them at our existing price and review those prices as a separate process so I
guess similar. What I hear though is people using it as a total solution, maybe
they don't tell the whole story and actually use it as a "guide" too.

Robert

I don't think I ever use it completely like that, but for probably 90% of
the items in a set.

It is mindless, but not _totally_ mindless. I'd prefer to spend the time
on the parts I'm more likely to be able to make more money on, and less time
on the fodder where the same time might yield only pennies.
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  this guy is catching a lot of flack for his attitude here, but he's right.
the value of the item is not based on how much it's worth in my heart of
hearts. the value is based on past sales, and how badly i want that part right
now. if i have to have it now and it's listed high, i'll probably buy
it. if i can wait, i'll wait for the day that a cheaper one comes along.
here's the important part: the average price comparison lets me gauge the
likelyhood that day will ever come.

Past performance is great, so long as current and future performance doesn't
change much. In that case, value is pretty much what others have paid.

But it is not a good indicator for non-standard items. Parts that are just released
that very few sellers have will often have a high 6mo price, but chances are
it won't sell at that much longer once more sellers get the part. The price
will drop. Parts that were relatively available but are no longer current and
likely to get snapped up (like when the Arvo brothers use the part in quantity
in a design) will have the opposite behaviour. They'll be cheap to start
with, and all the cheap ones start then disappearing - even though you might
feel you would pay 50c for them now, the 6mo ave is 25c so you don't buy,
and then in a month the lowest price is $1. For some parts, there is more to
the value than the past performance. Past performance only works for parts that
change price very slowly.
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In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  Not sure about other countries, but in Germany we have frequently newspaper articles
about how easy it is to earn money with Lego. "Helpfull" advice like buy an UCS
Imperial Star Destroyer for 2000€ and keep it for a few years to sell with profit.
More "helpfull" advices like buy 10 of the recent released Death Stars and sell
them later with profit. And of course how super expensive parts are and how worthwhile
it is to sell Lego parts.. As long as new sellers come and try their luck with
all these advices in mind, the moment of bouncing back of the price spiral looks
far far away.

You know a wonderful opportunity isn’t one anymore when papers/TV start talking
about it.
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  Because it's easy.
There are a lot of manual things to do with having a store, people probably just
want one mindless thing to do.

But pricing is probably the most important, right?

I often use the six month average to part out, but as a baseline for cheap parts
I cannot be bothered to price manually.

If I have 10 of something that have sold for the 6 month average of 3p each,
then I'm not going to bother looking into pricing. I'll list at that
price. I might be able to do two minutes worth of work and decide I might be
able to get 4p instead, but it is not worth it. Same idea if I have one thing
with an average of 50p - if I could have got 60p with a bit more effort, so what.
Whereas if I have have 100 of something with an average of 50p, then I'll
spend a bit more time on the price of those. And for minifigures I always do
a bit more manual analysis, looking at what is available, what the sales rates
are, thinking about what other stock might be listed soon (is it a current or
old set), etc. I find it probably saves 90% of the time compared to if I manually
priced each part individually.

It is also a good tool for deciding what not to sell when parting out. If I see
something is worth only a small amount on average and there is a possibility
I might use it, I'll just delete it from the part out and keep it. I find
I often build up personal bins full of small parts this way, that I then go on
to use for greebling or other details on models.

OK thanks, that makes a lot of sense. With cheap common parts we usually list
them at our existing price and review those prices as a separate process so I
guess similar. What I hear though is people using it as a total solution, maybe
they don't tell the whole story and actually use it as a "guide" too.

Robert
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  Because it's easy.
There are a lot of manual things to do with having a store, people probably just
want one mindless thing to do.

But pricing is probably the most important, right?

I often use the six month average to part out, but as a baseline for cheap parts
I cannot be bothered to price manually.

If I have 10 of something that have sold for the 6 month average of 3p each,
then I'm not going to bother looking into pricing. I'll list at that
price. I might be able to do two minutes worth of work and decide I might be
able to get 4p instead, but it is not worth it. Same idea if I have one thing
with an average of 50p - if I could have got 60p with a bit more effort, so what.
Whereas if I have have 100 of something with an average of 50p, then I'll
spend a bit more time on the price of those. And for minifigures I always do
a bit more manual analysis, looking at what is available, what the sales rates
are, thinking about what other stock might be listed soon (is it a current or
old set), etc. I find it probably saves 90% of the time compared to if I manually
priced each part individually.

It is also a good tool for deciding what not to sell when parting out. If I see
something is worth only a small amount on average and there is a possibility
I might use it, I'll just delete it from the part out and keep it. I find
I often build up personal bins full of small parts this way, that I then go on
to use for greebling or other details on models.
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In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  this guy is catching a lot of flack for his attitude here, but he's right.
the value of the item is not based on how much it's worth in my heart of
hearts. the value is based on past sales

In every other market place it is based on current availability and how badly
you (and everyone else) wants it. Past sales are a guide based on supply and
demand...in the past and those past sales prices for all sorts of reasons do
not always reflect what was actually paid.... that said it is a guide but not
one you can use to definitely price an item with, it never has been, too many
other variables and unknowns in the data.

As you re based in the USA the global average price will be showing at least
20% higher than the average sales price locally in your market from my experience
(excluding shipping an other add-ons)

apart from that, he's nuts (well he might not be, just it looks like it
from that post!)

Robert
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
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(snapped)

It is a partly random number that influences the feeling of a buyer whether a
deal is good or not. I usually don't use this feature because I have other
priorities when buying.

Imagine you buy a pack of apples. Every month. They cost always 2$. One day they
offer leftovers or promotion-bags or whatever you can imagine better. The bag
costs now 0.10$. From now on you will always see a 2$ (1.68$ average price, +18.8%)
tag beside the apples.

What does this help you? What does it do to the market?
Please think about it. You might find some answers in yourself.

I don’t buy one apple. I buy lots of apples. I buy lots of different kinds
of apples. Lately I’ve been buying pearl gold apples because I’m working on
a pearl gold apple pie. Every day I would come over to the Orchard and buy these
apples and they’re always $2.00. Every day when I go to purchase these apples
I would see their price at $2.00 and next to it I would see average price, which
was also $2.00. One day someone shows up at the Orchard with left over pearl
gold apples from the pearl gold apple pie that they baked and they’re listing
their pearl gold apples for $0.10. That’s a great deal! It’s so great that
someone buys them right away and it drags the average price of pearl gold apples
to $1.05 ($2.00 plus $0.10 divided by 2. I’m not sure where $1.68 came from
but the premise is the same). So today I show up at the Orchard to buy my pearl
gold apples and I see a price of $2.00 and an average price of $1.05. $1.05?!
Well I want the $1.05 apples so I look around and I can’t find them. Someone
purchased them yesterday. They didn’t actually purchase $1.05 pearl gold apples
they purchased $0.10 pearl gold apples but I don’t know that. It’s a $0.95 difference
and I’m committed to my pearl gold apple pie so I purchase the $2.00 pearl gold
apples. The average price just went up to $1.36. Another apple seller shows
up at the Orchard and they have pearl gold apples they want to sell. They go
to list them and they see that the average price is $1.36 and they laugh and
laugh. They say to themselves ‘There is no way I can list my pearl gold apples
for $1.36, what exactly are pearl gold apples going for?’ So they look and they
see that only one seller has pearl gold apples and they’re selling them for $2.00.
The seller says to themselves ‘I can’t list my apples for $1.36, I’ll never
make a profit. But I can list them for $1.75. It’s a little lower then I’d
want and it’s higher than the average price, but it’s lower than listed price
so I know I’ll move them faster and still make a profit.’ I come back to the
Orchard because I am obsessed with my pearl gold apple pie, it’s gonna be the
best pearl gold apple pie ever! I see pearl gold apples for $2.00 and an average
price of $1.36. That’s different than yesterday, the average price changed.
There is movement in the pearl gold apple market. I’m going to move with it.
I look around and lo and behold I find $1.75 pearl gold apples. I buy them.
The average price just went up to $1.46. Another seller shows up with pearl
gold apple pies and this seller has got promos. They go to list their pearl
gold apple pies and see the average price of $1.46 and they laugh and laugh and
they say to themselves ‘There are 2 sellers out here with pearl gold apples and
pearl gold apples are not special, I got promos I can list these for a $1.00
and make a profit.’ The average price drops again to $1.37. The market is saturated
with pearl gold apples and the average price keeps dropping. I show up and I
see pearl gold apples for $2.00, $1.75 and $1.00 with an average price of $1.37.
Everyone has been buying the $1.00 and dude only has one left. Today I need
2 pearl gold apples. So I buy 2 pearl gold apples from the $1.75 seller. Don’t
you know the average price went up again to $1.48. At this point the $2.00 pearl
gold apple seller is like ‘This is ridiculous. Pearl gold apples are not a $1.48,
I have been selling pearl gold apples for $2.00 since Britany shaved her head.
It’s not fair that the market has become saturated with pearl gold apples.
It’s not fair that other sellers are able to sell pearl gold apples for less
than $2.00 and still make a profit. I should make the profit. I was here first
and I know the true value of pearl gold apples.’ So he just leans back and watches.
Everyone is buying and selling pearl gold apples left and right. It’s a booming,
bustling market and it’s moving on without him. He keeps watching and he notices
the market isn’t as saturated with pearl gold apples anymore. Everyone has been
buying them cheap and inventory is running thin. And the $2.00 apple seller
says to himself ‘I know the true value of pearl gold apples. The true value
is $5.00.’ I show up at the Orchard and I see pearl gold apples for $0.10 (dude
is back with more leftovers), $1.00, $1.75, $5.00. This market is crazy, this
market is out the box. I need some type of guide to tell me what’s what because
dude with the $0.10 only has 1 left, dude with $1.00 has 2 and $1.75 dude has
1. The $5.00 pearl gold apple seller has 50 pearl gold apples. So I look at
the average price of $1.48 and that $1.48 tells me that in the last 6 months
the market was saturated with pearl gold apples. Pearl gold apples will probably
never sell for $1.48, it’s an average price not an actual price. I know this,
I’m using the average price to gauge prices. And that average price tells me
that pearl gold apples are nowhere near $5.00. So I walk away. I come back
the next day and the average price is gone. I see 1 or 2 apples selling for
dirt cheap and I see 50 selling for a $5.00. If I was new I was assume that
the average price of pearl gold apples was $5.00 because that’s what the market
is saturated with – expensive pearl gold apples. But I’m not new. I’ve been
to this Orchard before and I remember that the average price is about $1.48.
So I look over at the $5.00 pearl gold apple seller and I’m like “What’s up
with the price? Isn’t the average price about $1.48?” The $5.00 pearl gold
apple seller looks me right in the eye and stone cold says “The average price
is an arbitrary number and is not the true value of pearl gold apples. I know
the true value. The true value is $5.00. If you don’t want to pay $5.00 then
you don’t know the true value and you don’t want these pearl gold apples bad
enough.”

I just look back at him and blink.

this guy is catching a lot of flack for his attitude here, but he's right.
the value of the item is not based on how much it's worth in my heart of
hearts. the value is based on past sales, and how badly i want that part right
now. if i have to have it now and it's listed high, i'll probably buy
it. if i can wait, i'll wait for the day that a cheaper one comes along.
here's the important part: the average price comparison lets me gauge the
likelyhood that day will ever come.
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  
  I just look back at him and blink.

I do the same

Here the price is quite seasonal and varies dependent on the weather

I've learn't to live with it but it would be really great if there were
no seasons...hang on, I quite like the seasons really

sometimes I have to settle for green ones

the green ones aren't so shiny though

perhaps I should use one of those price comparison sites... hmm maybe not, nearly
got ripped off on my car insurance using one of those last year, cheapest result
was actually significantly more expensive than what I eventually paid and was
a crap policy (another story but people probably don't want me to write an
essay on it)

what the??? is this place going insane? No, it might look that way but there
are 10's of thousands of people going about their business as usual in the
transacting sections, probably that fake news phenomena thingy on the internet.

never mind worse things in the news to be concerned about today, "I'm out"
as they say, got to post all those packages.

Robert
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In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  You may have spent more time crafting that analogy that you would simply getting
around the function by looking things up.

I want to make a pearl gold apple pie, I see them listed for $2
I evaluate if I want the $2 or the apple.
If I want the $2, I decide I don't need the pie after all.

If I would rather have the pie, I buy the apples for $2

If I come back and see that someone bought some apples for $.10, but it was an
abberation, the apples are still worth $2 to me. If they ever show up cheaper,
that's great, but if they don't, I'm still happy to buy them because
they are worth that to me.

I go to a farmers market and one stand has a bunch of stuff I want, but I noticed
that he sells his apples for $4.

I take a look at a few more examples and determine that he prices everything
at 2x what it normally costs. I don't care to check everything, so I no
longer look at his store.

You see, he 'may' have some fair deals on asparagus, but since it failed
my initial test, my time is too valuable to nit pick sales.



In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  
(snapped)

It is a partly random number that influences the feeling of a buyer whether a
deal is good or not. I usually don't use this feature because I have other
priorities when buying.

Imagine you buy a pack of apples. Every month. They cost always 2$. One day they
offer leftovers or promotion-bags or whatever you can imagine better. The bag
costs now 0.10$. From now on you will always see a 2$ (1.68$ average price, +18.8%)
tag beside the apples.

What does this help you? What does it do to the market?
Please think about it. You might find some answers in yourself.

I don’t buy one apple. I buy lots of apples. I buy lots of different kinds
of apples. Lately I’ve been buying pearl gold apples because I’m working on
a pearl gold apple pie. Every day I would come over to the Orchard and buy these
apples and they’re always $2.00. Every day when I go to purchase these apples
I would see their price at $2.00 and next to it I would see average price, which
was also $2.00. One day someone shows up at the Orchard with left over pearl
gold apples from the pearl gold apple pie that they baked and they’re listing
their pearl gold apples for $0.10. That’s a great deal! It’s so great that
someone buys them right away and it drags the average price of pearl gold apples
to $1.05 ($2.00 plus $0.10 divided by 2. I’m not sure where $1.68 came from
but the premise is the same). So today I show up at the Orchard to buy my pearl
gold apples and I see a price of $2.00 and an average price of $1.05. $1.05?!
Well I want the $1.05 apples so I look around and I can’t find them. Someone
purchased them yesterday. They didn’t actually purchase $1.05 pearl gold apples
they purchased $0.10 pearl gold apples but I don’t know that. It’s a $0.95 difference
and I’m committed to my pearl gold apple pie so I purchase the $2.00 pearl gold
apples. The average price just went up to $1.36. Another apple seller shows
up at the Orchard and they have pearl gold apples they want to sell. They go
to list them and they see that the average price is $1.36 and they laugh and
laugh. They say to themselves ‘There is no way I can list my pearl gold apples
for $1.36, what exactly are pearl gold apples going for?’ So they look and they
see that only one seller has pearl gold apples and they’re selling them for $2.00.
The seller says to themselves ‘I can’t list my apples for $1.36, I’ll never
make a profit. But I can list them for $1.75. It’s a little lower then I’d
want and it’s higher than the average price, but it’s lower than listed price
so I know I’ll move them faster and still make a profit.’ I come back to the
Orchard because I am obsessed with my pearl gold apple pie, it’s gonna be the
best pearl gold apple pie ever! I see pearl gold apples for $2.00 and an average
price of $1.36. That’s different than yesterday, the average price changed.
There is movement in the pearl gold apple market. I’m going to move with it.
I look around and lo and behold I find $1.75 pearl gold apples. I buy them.
The average price just went up to $1.46. Another seller shows up with pearl
gold apple pies and this seller has got promos. They go to list their pearl
gold apple pies and see the average price of $1.46 and they laugh and laugh and
they say to themselves ‘There are 2 sellers out here with pearl gold apples and
pearl gold apples are not special, I got promos I can list these for a $1.00
and make a profit.’ The average price drops again to $1.37. The market is saturated
with pearl gold apples and the average price keeps dropping. I show up and I
see pearl gold apples for $2.00, $1.75 and $1.00 with an average price of $1.37.
Everyone has been buying the $1.00 and dude only has one left. Today I need
2 pearl gold apples. So I buy 2 pearl gold apples from the $1.75 seller. Don’t
you know the average price went up again to $1.48. At this point the $2.00 pearl
gold apple seller is like ‘This is ridiculous. Pearl gold apples are not a $1.48,
I have been selling pearl gold apples for $2.00 since Britany shaved her head.
It’s not fair that the market has become saturated with pearl gold apples.
It’s not fair that other sellers are able to sell pearl gold apples for less
than $2.00 and still make a profit. I should make the profit. I was here first
and I know the true value of pearl gold apples.’ So he just leans back and watches.
Everyone is buying and selling pearl gold apples left and right. It’s a booming,
bustling market and it’s moving on without him. He keeps watching and he notices
the market isn’t as saturated with pearl gold apples anymore. Everyone has been
buying them cheap and inventory is running thin. And the $2.00 apple seller
says to himself ‘I know the true value of pearl gold apples. The true value
is $5.00.’ I show up at the Orchard and I see pearl gold apples for $0.10 (dude
is back with more leftovers), $1.00, $1.75, $5.00. This market is crazy, this
market is out the box. I need some type of guide to tell me what’s what because
dude with the $0.10 only has 1 left, dude with $1.00 has 2 and $1.75 dude has
1. The $5.00 pearl gold apple seller has 50 pearl gold apples. So I look at
the average price of $1.48 and that $1.48 tells me that in the last 6 months
the market was saturated with pearl gold apples. Pearl gold apples will probably
never sell for $1.48, it’s an average price not an actual price. I know this,
I’m using the average price to gauge prices. And that average price tells me
that pearl gold apples are nowhere near $5.00. So I walk away. I come back
the next day and the average price is gone. I see 1 or 2 apples selling for
dirt cheap and I see 50 selling for a $5.00. If I was new I was assume that
the average price of pearl gold apples was $5.00 because that’s what the market
is saturated with – expensive pearl gold apples. But I’m not new. I’ve been
to this Orchard before and I remember that the average price is about $1.48.
So I look over at the $5.00 pearl gold apple seller and I’m like “What’s up
with the price? Isn’t the average price about $1.48?” The $5.00 pearl gold
apple seller looks me right in the eye and stone cold says “The average price
is an arbitrary number and is not the true value of pearl gold apples. I know
the true value. The true value is $5.00. If you don’t want to pay $5.00 then
you don’t know the true value and you don’t want these pearl gold apples bad
enough.”

I just look back at him and blink.

Part of the way I decide if I want the apple or the $2 is by knowing whether
$2 is a fair price for that apple. The way I know the fair price is knowing how
much other people have paid for it in the past. If the apple generally costs
$2, then i'll buy it, because i want it and I can spare the two bucks. If
i know others have gotten them for $1 many times in the past, well then I'll
probably wait until a $1 apple is available again. I don't need it that bad.
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I think those types of articles are now global, the method and work involved
isn't included so the conclusions can be cherry picked over.

Sites like brickpicker reinforce that. People asking "advice" on what set they
should blindly sink their money into to sit on.

People posting on facebook trying to gauge "is this a good deal" where you can
tell they put 0 effort into answering it themselves and of course, the people
that don't even like Lego.

I think I would have only thought of brickpicker after I decided that I didn't
want to make money off of lego anymore, after that, you don't care what happens
to the process.

In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  Not sure about other countries, but in Germany we have frequently newspaper articles
about how easy it is to earn money with Lego. "Helpfull" advice like buy an UCS
Imperial Star Destroyer for 2000€ and keep it for a few years to sell with profit.
More "helpfull" advices like buy 10 of the recent released Death Stars and sell
them later with profit. And of course how super expensive parts are and how worthwhile
it is to sell Lego parts.. As long as new sellers come and try their luck with
all these advices in mind, the moment of bouncing back of the price spiral looks
far far away.

In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  Because it's easy.
There are a lot of manual things to do with having a store, people probably just
want one mindless thing to do.

But pricing is probably the most important, right?

Someone else in this thread said something akin to "if one seller is willing
to sell a part for this low, maybe all sellers should be able to", to that I
would say "If one buyer is willing to buy a part for 3x the average price, maybe
all buyers would be able to"

While a price spiral down may look attractive to buyers, in the end when sellers
see the effort vs reward, they slow down on selling and then those buyers now
have less options.




In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools
. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.


What am I missing here? Is it interpretation of words?

Sellers can use the part out a set tool and set their part prices at the (worldwide)
six month average price, using Bricklink.

this is correct. i did it last night. it's a very useful feature for a seller.
don't know why someone is saying this can't be done right in bricklink.

I concur it can indeed be done but in over 10 years of selling here I've
never understood why people want to set their prices at 6th months average worldwide
prices. Many do so but no one has ever explained why they do... is it just because
they can? I know this feature originates from the early Dan years and maybe back
then the dynamics were different - mainly USA only data, less stores, less items,
etc. Not singling you out but I'm just interested in hearing why sellers
do this and value this feature.

Robert
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You may have spent more time crafting that analogy that you would simply getting
around the function by looking things up.

I want to make a pearl gold apple pie, I see them listed for $2
I evaluate if I want the $2 or the apple.
If I want the $2, I decide I don't need the pie after all.

If I would rather have the pie, I buy the apples for $2

If I come back and see that someone bought some apples for $.10, but it was an
abberation, the apples are still worth $2 to me. If they ever show up cheaper,
that's great, but if they don't, I'm still happy to buy them because
they are worth that to me.

I go to a farmers market and one stand has a bunch of stuff I want, but I noticed
that he sells his apples for $4.

I take a look at a few more examples and determine that he prices everything
at 2x what it normally costs. I don't care to check everything, so I no
longer look at his store.

You see, he 'may' have some fair deals on asparagus, but since it failed
my initial test, my time is too valuable to nit pick sales.



In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  
(snapped)

It is a partly random number that influences the feeling of a buyer whether a
deal is good or not. I usually don't use this feature because I have other
priorities when buying.

Imagine you buy a pack of apples. Every month. They cost always 2$. One day they
offer leftovers or promotion-bags or whatever you can imagine better. The bag
costs now 0.10$. From now on you will always see a 2$ (1.68$ average price, +18.8%)
tag beside the apples.

What does this help you? What does it do to the market?
Please think about it. You might find some answers in yourself.

I don’t buy one apple. I buy lots of apples. I buy lots of different kinds
of apples. Lately I’ve been buying pearl gold apples because I’m working on
a pearl gold apple pie. Every day I would come over to the Orchard and buy these
apples and they’re always $2.00. Every day when I go to purchase these apples
I would see their price at $2.00 and next to it I would see average price, which
was also $2.00. One day someone shows up at the Orchard with left over pearl
gold apples from the pearl gold apple pie that they baked and they’re listing
their pearl gold apples for $0.10. That’s a great deal! It’s so great that
someone buys them right away and it drags the average price of pearl gold apples
to $1.05 ($2.00 plus $0.10 divided by 2. I’m not sure where $1.68 came from
but the premise is the same). So today I show up at the Orchard to buy my pearl
gold apples and I see a price of $2.00 and an average price of $1.05. $1.05?!
Well I want the $1.05 apples so I look around and I can’t find them. Someone
purchased them yesterday. They didn’t actually purchase $1.05 pearl gold apples
they purchased $0.10 pearl gold apples but I don’t know that. It’s a $0.95 difference
and I’m committed to my pearl gold apple pie so I purchase the $2.00 pearl gold
apples. The average price just went up to $1.36. Another apple seller shows
up at the Orchard and they have pearl gold apples they want to sell. They go
to list them and they see that the average price is $1.36 and they laugh and
laugh. They say to themselves ‘There is no way I can list my pearl gold apples
for $1.36, what exactly are pearl gold apples going for?’ So they look and they
see that only one seller has pearl gold apples and they’re selling them for $2.00.
The seller says to themselves ‘I can’t list my apples for $1.36, I’ll never
make a profit. But I can list them for $1.75. It’s a little lower then I’d
want and it’s higher than the average price, but it’s lower than listed price
so I know I’ll move them faster and still make a profit.’ I come back to the
Orchard because I am obsessed with my pearl gold apple pie, it’s gonna be the
best pearl gold apple pie ever! I see pearl gold apples for $2.00 and an average
price of $1.36. That’s different than yesterday, the average price changed.
There is movement in the pearl gold apple market. I’m going to move with it.
I look around and lo and behold I find $1.75 pearl gold apples. I buy them.
The average price just went up to $1.46. Another seller shows up with pearl
gold apple pies and this seller has got promos. They go to list their pearl
gold apple pies and see the average price of $1.46 and they laugh and laugh and
they say to themselves ‘There are 2 sellers out here with pearl gold apples and
pearl gold apples are not special, I got promos I can list these for a $1.00
and make a profit.’ The average price drops again to $1.37. The market is saturated
with pearl gold apples and the average price keeps dropping. I show up and I
see pearl gold apples for $2.00, $1.75 and $1.00 with an average price of $1.37.
Everyone has been buying the $1.00 and dude only has one left. Today I need
2 pearl gold apples. So I buy 2 pearl gold apples from the $1.75 seller. Don’t
you know the average price went up again to $1.48. At this point the $2.00 pearl
gold apple seller is like ‘This is ridiculous. Pearl gold apples are not a $1.48,
I have been selling pearl gold apples for $2.00 since Britany shaved her head.
It’s not fair that the market has become saturated with pearl gold apples.
It’s not fair that other sellers are able to sell pearl gold apples for less
than $2.00 and still make a profit. I should make the profit. I was here first
and I know the true value of pearl gold apples.’ So he just leans back and watches.
Everyone is buying and selling pearl gold apples left and right. It’s a booming,
bustling market and it’s moving on without him. He keeps watching and he notices
the market isn’t as saturated with pearl gold apples anymore. Everyone has been
buying them cheap and inventory is running thin. And the $2.00 apple seller
says to himself ‘I know the true value of pearl gold apples. The true value
is $5.00.’ I show up at the Orchard and I see pearl gold apples for $0.10 (dude
is back with more leftovers), $1.00, $1.75, $5.00. This market is crazy, this
market is out the box. I need some type of guide to tell me what’s what because
dude with the $0.10 only has 1 left, dude with $1.00 has 2 and $1.75 dude has
1. The $5.00 pearl gold apple seller has 50 pearl gold apples. So I look at
the average price of $1.48 and that $1.48 tells me that in the last 6 months
the market was saturated with pearl gold apples. Pearl gold apples will probably
never sell for $1.48, it’s an average price not an actual price. I know this,
I’m using the average price to gauge prices. And that average price tells me
that pearl gold apples are nowhere near $5.00. So I walk away. I come back
the next day and the average price is gone. I see 1 or 2 apples selling for
dirt cheap and I see 50 selling for a $5.00. If I was new I was assume that
the average price of pearl gold apples was $5.00 because that’s what the market
is saturated with – expensive pearl gold apples. But I’m not new. I’ve been
to this Orchard before and I remember that the average price is about $1.48.
So I look over at the $5.00 pearl gold apple seller and I’m like “What’s up
with the price? Isn’t the average price about $1.48?” The $5.00 pearl gold
apple seller looks me right in the eye and stone cold says “The average price
is an arbitrary number and is not the true value of pearl gold apples. I know
the true value. The true value is $5.00. If you don’t want to pay $5.00 then
you don’t know the true value and you don’t want these pearl gold apples bad
enough.”

I just look back at him and blink.
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  
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It is a partly random number that influences the feeling of a buyer whether a
deal is good or not. I usually don't use this feature because I have other
priorities when buying.

Imagine you buy a pack of apples. Every month. They cost always 2$. One day they
offer leftovers or promotion-bags or whatever you can imagine better. The bag
costs now 0.10$. From now on you will always see a 2$ (1.68$ average price, +18.8%)
tag beside the apples.

What does this help you? What does it do to the market?
Please think about it. You might find some answers in yourself.

Blah, blah, blah...

I just look back at him and blink.

There you go again ignoring the sensible arguments and ranting about... whatever...
you're only damaging your own interest...
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In Suggestions, Pher writes:
  
(snapped)

It is a partly random number that influences the feeling of a buyer whether a
deal is good or not. I usually don't use this feature because I have other
priorities when buying.

Imagine you buy a pack of apples. Every month. They cost always 2$. One day they
offer leftovers or promotion-bags or whatever you can imagine better. The bag
costs now 0.10$. From now on you will always see a 2$ (1.68$ average price, +18.8%)
tag beside the apples.

What does this help you? What does it do to the market?
Please think about it. You might find some answers in yourself.

I don’t buy one apple. I buy lots of apples. I buy lots of different kinds
of apples. Lately I’ve been buying pearl gold apples because I’m working on
a pearl gold apple pie. Every day I would come over to the Orchard and buy these
apples and they’re always $2.00. Every day when I go to purchase these apples
I would see their price at $2.00 and next to it I would see average price, which
was also $2.00. One day someone shows up at the Orchard with left over pearl
gold apples from the pearl gold apple pie that they baked and they’re listing
their pearl gold apples for $0.10. That’s a great deal! It’s so great that
someone buys them right away and it drags the average price of pearl gold apples
to $1.05 ($2.00 plus $0.10 divided by 2. I’m not sure where $1.68 came from
but the premise is the same). So today I show up at the Orchard to buy my pearl
gold apples and I see a price of $2.00 and an average price of $1.05. $1.05?!
Well I want the $1.05 apples so I look around and I can’t find them. Someone
purchased them yesterday. They didn’t actually purchase $1.05 pearl gold apples
they purchased $0.10 pearl gold apples but I don’t know that. It’s a $0.95 difference
and I’m committed to my pearl gold apple pie so I purchase the $2.00 pearl gold
apples. The average price just went up to $1.36. Another apple seller shows
up at the Orchard and they have pearl gold apples they want to sell. They go
to list them and they see that the average price is $1.36 and they laugh and
laugh. They say to themselves ‘There is no way I can list my pearl gold apples
for $1.36, what exactly are pearl gold apples going for?’ So they look and they
see that only one seller has pearl gold apples and they’re selling them for $2.00.
The seller says to themselves ‘I can’t list my apples for $1.36, I’ll never
make a profit. But I can list them for $1.75. It’s a little lower then I’d
want and it’s higher than the average price, but it’s lower than listed price
so I know I’ll move them faster and still make a profit.’ I come back to the
Orchard because I am obsessed with my pearl gold apple pie, it’s gonna be the
best pearl gold apple pie ever! I see pearl gold apples for $2.00 and an average
price of $1.36. That’s different than yesterday, the average price changed.
There is movement in the pearl gold apple market. I’m going to move with it.
I look around and lo and behold I find $1.75 pearl gold apples. I buy them.
The average price just went up to $1.46. Another seller shows up with pearl
gold apple pies and this seller has got promos. They go to list their pearl
gold apple pies and see the average price of $1.46 and they laugh and laugh and
they say to themselves ‘There are 2 sellers out here with pearl gold apples and
pearl gold apples are not special, I got promos I can list these for a $1.00
and make a profit.’ The average price drops again to $1.37. The market is saturated
with pearl gold apples and the average price keeps dropping. I show up and I
see pearl gold apples for $2.00, $1.75 and $1.00 with an average price of $1.37.
Everyone has been buying the $1.00 and dude only has one left. Today I need
2 pearl gold apples. So I buy 2 pearl gold apples from the $1.75 seller. Don’t
you know the average price went up again to $1.48. At this point the $2.00 pearl
gold apple seller is like ‘This is ridiculous. Pearl gold apples are not a $1.48,
I have been selling pearl gold apples for $2.00 since Britany shaved her head.
It’s not fair that the market has become saturated with pearl gold apples.
It’s not fair that other sellers are able to sell pearl gold apples for less
than $2.00 and still make a profit. I should make the profit. I was here first
and I know the true value of pearl gold apples.’ So he just leans back and watches.
Everyone is buying and selling pearl gold apples left and right. It’s a booming,
bustling market and it’s moving on without him. He keeps watching and he notices
the market isn’t as saturated with pearl gold apples anymore. Everyone has been
buying them cheap and inventory is running thin. And the $2.00 apple seller
says to himself ‘I know the true value of pearl gold apples. The true value
is $5.00.’ I show up at the Orchard and I see pearl gold apples for $0.10 (dude
is back with more leftovers), $1.00, $1.75, $5.00. This market is crazy, this
market is out the box. I need some type of guide to tell me what’s what because
dude with the $0.10 only has 1 left, dude with $1.00 has 2 and $1.75 dude has
1. The $5.00 pearl gold apple seller has 50 pearl gold apples. So I look at
the average price of $1.48 and that $1.48 tells me that in the last 6 months
the market was saturated with pearl gold apples. Pearl gold apples will probably
never sell for $1.48, it’s an average price not an actual price. I know this,
I’m using the average price to gauge prices. And that average price tells me
that pearl gold apples are nowhere near $5.00. So I walk away. I come back
the next day and the average price is gone. I see 1 or 2 apples selling for
dirt cheap and I see 50 selling for a $5.00. If I was new I was assume that
the average price of pearl gold apples was $5.00 because that’s what the market
is saturated with – expensive pearl gold apples. But I’m not new. I’ve been
to this Orchard before and I remember that the average price is about $1.48.
So I look over at the $5.00 pearl gold apple seller and I’m like “What’s up
with the price? Isn’t the average price about $1.48?” The $5.00 pearl gold
apple seller looks me right in the eye and stone cold says “The average price
is an arbitrary number and is not the true value of pearl gold apples. I know
the true value. The true value is $5.00. If you don’t want to pay $5.00 then
you don’t know the true value and you don’t want these pearl gold apples bad
enough.”

I just look back at him and blink.
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In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  Because it's easy.
There are a lot of manual things to do with having a store, people probably just
want one mindless thing to do.

But pricing is probably the most important, right?

Someone else in this thread said something akin to "if one seller is willing
to sell a part for this low, maybe all sellers should be able to", to that I
would say "If one buyer is willing to buy a part for 3x the average price, maybe
all buyers would be able to"

While a price spiral down may look attractive to buyers, in the end when sellers
see the effort vs reward, they slow down on selling and then those buyers now
have less options.


+1
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  […]
  regarding sellers and buyers having equal access, that's just not true. a
seller can part out a set and list the pieces automatically at the 6 month avg,
but a buyer cannot then shop for those same parts in that same sellers store
without seeing all at once whether they are above or below average price. that's
not equal access. that makes the buyer work much harder than the seller to determine
whether each individual part is listed at fair value or not.

You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.

Actually, it’s the reverse: buyers have more tools than sellers in BrickLink.

Buyers can easily set Max Price in their Wanted Lists to the Price Guide values:
open your WL, select some (or all) items, click on the “Price” button just above
the list, you’re then presented with a dialog to set the prices:
1. as amount,
2. as price guide (last 6mo/currently for sale, average/qty average/min/max),
3. inc/decrease (by % or value)

You don’t need Brickstok… unless you want “sold” values and not “for sale.”

Wow! Thank you for this wonderful piece of information! I did not know anything
about this, but it will help me immensely when browsing stores now!

Cheers,
Randy
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Not sure about other countries, but in Germany we have frequently newspaper articles
about how easy it is to earn money with Lego. "Helpfull" advice like buy an UCS
Imperial Star Destroyer for 2000€ and keep it for a few years to sell with profit.
More "helpfull" advices like buy 10 of the recent released Death Stars and sell
them later with profit. And of course how super expensive parts are and how worthwhile
it is to sell Lego parts.. As long as new sellers come and try their luck with
all these advices in mind, the moment of bouncing back of the price spiral looks
far far away.

In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  Because it's easy.
There are a lot of manual things to do with having a store, people probably just
want one mindless thing to do.

But pricing is probably the most important, right?

Someone else in this thread said something akin to "if one seller is willing
to sell a part for this low, maybe all sellers should be able to", to that I
would say "If one buyer is willing to buy a part for 3x the average price, maybe
all buyers would be able to"

While a price spiral down may look attractive to buyers, in the end when sellers
see the effort vs reward, they slow down on selling and then those buyers now
have less options.




In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools
. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.


What am I missing here? Is it interpretation of words?

Sellers can use the part out a set tool and set their part prices at the (worldwide)
six month average price, using Bricklink.

this is correct. i did it last night. it's a very useful feature for a seller.
don't know why someone is saying this can't be done right in bricklink.

I concur it can indeed be done but in over 10 years of selling here I've
never understood why people want to set their prices at 6th months average worldwide
prices. Many do so but no one has ever explained why they do... is it just because
they can? I know this feature originates from the early Dan years and maybe back
then the dynamics were different - mainly USA only data, less stores, less items,
etc. Not singling you out but I'm just interested in hearing why sellers
do this and value this feature.

Robert
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In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
  Because it's easy.

OK..but really?

  There are a lot of manual things to do with having a store, people probably just
want one mindless thing to do.

But pricing is probably the most important, right?


Probably yes.

  Someone else in this thread said something akin to "if one seller is willing
to sell a part for this low, maybe all sellers should be able to", to that I
would say "If one buyer is willing to buy a part for 3x the average price, maybe
all buyers would be able to"

While a price spiral down may look attractive to buyers, in the end when sellers
see the effort vs reward, they slow down on selling and then those buyers now
have less options.



Yes, I don't have any problem with the effect of that because I believe demand
and supply mechanics always corrects things like that in the long term and we've
been here for a relatively long time! My initial interest in this thread was
simply that buyers were being misled more than a worry about the long-term impact
on prices. The whole thing has had no impact on our prices. What worries me more
now is that this green/red thing was implemented and now, after 15 years of BL
not having it before it has been removed and buyers think they are being conned
in some way when in fact it seems to me removing it did the opposite and.....
is it just me or have sales gone off a bit since it was removed? If I was just
worried about short term sales I would have been asking for it to be reinstated.
I still love this site but it sure can behave "oddly" sometimes!

Robert
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Because it's easy.
There are a lot of manual things to do with having a store, people probably just
want one mindless thing to do.

But pricing is probably the most important, right?

Someone else in this thread said something akin to "if one seller is willing
to sell a part for this low, maybe all sellers should be able to", to that I
would say "If one buyer is willing to buy a part for 3x the average price, maybe
all buyers would be able to"

While a price spiral down may look attractive to buyers, in the end when sellers
see the effort vs reward, they slow down on selling and then those buyers now
have less options.




In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools
. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.


What am I missing here? Is it interpretation of words?

Sellers can use the part out a set tool and set their part prices at the (worldwide)
six month average price, using Bricklink.

this is correct. i did it last night. it's a very useful feature for a seller.
don't know why someone is saying this can't be done right in bricklink.

I concur it can indeed be done but in over 10 years of selling here I've
never understood why people want to set their prices at 6th months average worldwide
prices. Many do so but no one has ever explained why they do... is it just because
they can? I know this feature originates from the early Dan years and maybe back
then the dynamics were different - mainly USA only data, less stores, less items,
etc. Not singling you out but I'm just interested in hearing why sellers
do this and value this feature.

Robert
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In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools
. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.


What am I missing here? Is it interpretation of words?

Sellers can use the part out a set tool and set their part prices at the (worldwide)
six month average price, using Bricklink.

this is correct. i did it last night. it's a very useful feature for a seller.
don't know why someone is saying this can't be done right in bricklink.


You're right. I was wrong about that. I was thinking of re-pricing existing
inventory to the 6-month average.


--
Marc.
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In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools
. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.


What am I missing here? Is it interpretation of words?

Sellers can use the part out a set tool and set their part prices at the (worldwide)
six month average price, using Bricklink.

this is correct. i did it last night. it's a very useful feature for a seller.
don't know why someone is saying this can't be done right in bricklink.

I concur it can indeed be done but in over 10 years of selling here I've
never understood why people want to set their prices at 6th months average worldwide
prices. Many do so but no one has ever explained why they do... is it just because
they can? I know this feature originates from the early Dan years and maybe back
then the dynamics were different - mainly USA only data, less stores, less items,
etc. Not singling you out but I'm just interested in hearing why sellers
do this and value this feature.

Robert
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  […]
  regarding sellers and buyers having equal access, that's just not true. a
seller can part out a set and list the pieces automatically at the 6 month avg,
but a buyer cannot then shop for those same parts in that same sellers store
without seeing all at once whether they are above or below average price. that's
not equal access. that makes the buyer work much harder than the seller to determine
whether each individual part is listed at fair value or not.

You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.

Actually, it’s the reverse: buyers have more tools than sellers in BrickLink.

Buyers can easily set Max Price in their Wanted Lists to the Price Guide values:
open your WL, select some (or all) items, click on the “Price” button just above
the list, you’re then presented with a dialog to set the prices:
1. as amount,
2. as price guide (last 6mo/currently for sale, average/qty average/min/max),
3. inc/decrease (by % or value)

You don’t need Brickstok… unless you want “sold” values and not “for sale.”

thanks for this. i actually did not know i could do this. this gives me a workaround
for the process i was using to shop using the comparison. i think the comparison
was better, but this will work. I can now eliminate items that do not meet my
price when shopping my wanted list. my vote to reinstate the comparison tool
still stands, but this is really useful information and much more constructive
than some folks are being on this forum.
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools
. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.


What am I missing here? Is it interpretation of words?

Sellers can use the part out a set tool and set their part prices at the (worldwide)
six month average price, using Bricklink.

this is correct. i did it last night. it's a very useful feature for a seller.
don't know why someone is saying this can't be done right in bricklink.
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Pleasee REINTRODUCE this fantastic function,we really need it!

Alessandro
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  You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools
. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.


What am I missing here? Is it interpretation of words?

Sellers can use the part out a set tool and set their part prices at the (worldwide)
six month average price, using Bricklink.
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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  […]
  regarding sellers and buyers having equal access, that's just not true. a
seller can part out a set and list the pieces automatically at the 6 month avg,
but a buyer cannot then shop for those same parts in that same sellers store
without seeing all at once whether they are above or below average price. that's
not equal access. that makes the buyer work much harder than the seller to determine
whether each individual part is listed at fair value or not.

You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.

Actually, it’s the reverse: buyers have more tools than sellers in BrickLink.

Buyers can easily set Max Price in their Wanted Lists to the Price Guide values:
open your WL, select some (or all) items, click on the “Price” button just above
the list, you’re then presented with a dialog to set the prices:
1. as amount,
2. as price guide (last 6mo/currently for sale, average/qty average/min/max),
3. inc/decrease (by % or value)

You don’t need Brickstok… unless you want “sold” values and not “for sale.”
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  A few years ago, most sets parted out for 2x the retail price of the set. Today,
that number is maybe 1.3x. I certainly would not say that prices on parts are
inflated. The opposite -- they're depressed.


1.3x ?

If any sellers are parting out sets on that multiple they are heading for a loss.
They'd have to sell most of the set just to break even without any compensation
for their time.

Or not pay retail price.

"and" not pay the retail price

Robert
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  A few years ago, most sets parted out for 2x the retail price of the set. Today,
that number is maybe 1.3x. I certainly would not say that prices on parts are
inflated. The opposite -- they're depressed.


1.3x ?

If any sellers are parting out sets on that multiple they are heading for a loss.
They'd have to sell most of the set just to break even without any compensation
for their time.

Or not pay retail price.
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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  of course i am not suggesting that parts be given away for free. i'm saying
maybe part prices are inflated if sellers are actually willing to sell for less.
as a seller, if i think a part is too cool to sell for a nickel, i keep it, cause
i know no one's gonna pay a quarter for it. or if i have a ten dollar minifig
and i dont want to sit on it for a year, i'll list it for 9 and try to move
it out.

For those of us whose BrickLink stores are trying to support us as a full-time
job, that a part being too cool doesn't factor into it. It's a business.
I try to sell for more than I paid.

A few years ago, most sets parted out for 2x the retail price of the set. Today,
that number is maybe 1.3x. I certainly would not say that prices on parts are
inflated. The opposite -- they're depressed.


1.3x ?

If any sellers are parting out sets on that multiple they are heading for a loss.
They'd have to sell most of the set just to break even without any compensation
for their time. It is quite easy to sell half of the parts in a set but the others
take quite some time. I think some must blindly price without any business consideration
and that won't last, they'll soon realise they are working for someone
else not themselves. I agree some of the recent system tweaks have encouraged
some into this but at the end of the day I do believe demand and supply rules...
and that is the real problem - over supply. Some seem to think that if 100 of
part XXX sold for average 10c each over the last 6 months there is a market for
BL'ers to part out 10000 of them when in reality there is little price elasticity
of demand and if the price was 5c the 6 month demand might still not be more
than 100. That is why many are getting frustrated, having rash sales and trying
to get their investment back that they thought would make them a quick profit.

Robert
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  of course i am not suggesting that parts be given away for free. i'm saying
maybe part prices are inflated if sellers are actually willing to sell for less.

In some cases, I think it is not willing to sell for less, but feeling the need
to sell for less to get a sale.

Part of the problem is that the average doesn't take into account location.
A few times I have had buyers contact me asking me to give them a better price
"because they can buy cheaper from the US", although this happens on single parts
as well as larger amounts of parts when the wants list price tool was there.
I tell them to buy from the US and to pay the extra shipping, to pay the £8 RM
fee for importing the items, to pay VAT on top when they import. None of those
fees appear in the tool, yet the more expensive stores look bad compared to other
stores where these fees would be applicable.

  or maybe let bricklink set the price. millennium
falcon radar dish: $10. seller paid more for it originally, tough crap, you can
only sell it here for $10. that's not fair to the seller though, is it?

It is also illegal in many countries. BL would also lose many sellers to rival
free markets such BO, ebay, etc.
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In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
  In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
  In Suggestions, rofreder writes:
  Hello All, and to my recent seller please accept my appologies.

Got in some other sets today straight from lego.com and compared elements. Couldn't
distinguish any serious differences. I suppose there is a little variation among
genuine lego factory molds and plastic composition.

Thank you all for your help and concern. Got my first set in the 70's and
thought I was an expert. Guess not.

Thank you for reporting back.

Nowadays, especially in online discussions, I see far too few people willing
to admit a mistake. I really appreciate this.

Niek.

+1
Thanks.

sorry to add yet another +1 to the thread without further comment but in this
case I think it is well warranted.

Robert
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In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  of course i am not suggesting that parts be given away for free. i'm saying
maybe part prices are inflated if sellers are actually willing to sell for less.
as a seller, if i think a part is too cool to sell for a nickel, i keep it, cause
i know no one's gonna pay a quarter for it. or if i have a ten dollar minifig
and i dont want to sit on it for a year, i'll list it for 9 and try to move
it out.

For those of us whose BrickLink stores are trying to support us as a full-time
job, that a part being too cool doesn't factor into it. It's a business.
I try to sell for more than I paid.

A few years ago, most sets parted out for 2x the retail price of the set. Today,
that number is maybe 1.3x. I certainly would not say that prices on parts are
inflated. The opposite -- they're depressed.

Those $10 minifigs are only $10 because that's what they've been selling
for. It used to be as you described -- a few sellers would list at $9 to
try to sell them faster, while most listed for $10, and many listed for $11 or
more.

But now, ten stores list them for $8. Then when they see that everyone else is
doing that, they relist them for $6. Then someone lists 300 of them for $2.50.

All of which is fine (more or less). But it becomes a bit of a problem when sellers
who want to list that "$10" minifigure for $10 show up on a BrickLink tool as
being 75% higher than average.



   if bricklink has a problem with sellers undercutting each other, i don't
think limiting the buyers information is the smart way to fix it. why not limit
sellers ability to list a part for less than a certain price.


That would be a terrible idea, and possibly illegal.


  regarding sellers and buyers having equal access, that's just not true. a
seller can part out a set and list the pieces automatically at the 6 month avg,
but a buyer cannot then shop for those same parts in that same sellers store
without seeing all at once whether they are above or below average price. that's
not equal access. that makes the buyer work much harder than the seller to determine
whether each individual part is listed at fair value or not.

You are mistaken. Sellers do not have the ability to part out a set and automatically
list the pieces at the 6 month average, using any BrickLink tools. It's possible
to do so with 3rd-party tools (off BrickLink), but those tools are available
to buyers as well. The access to pricing information is identical for buyers
and sellers.


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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  In Suggestions, tillmanbalazs writes:
  few weeks ago when I went to a wanted list, and selected the items which I wanted
to buy, then the shop, it showed what is the price of items in this shop compared
to the average price of the items.
Now this function is not available, can I ask why?
Is it possible to have it back?
Thanks,
Balázs

Voted Yes. Having this comparison helps me to buy hundreds of pieces at a time
and easily know whether the store I've chosen is charging me double what
each piece is worth, without having to check each piece manually. The only ones
to blame for a downward spiral in pricing are sellers listing their parts cheaper
than everyone else. If a part can be sold cheaper, maybe it should be.

But tools like this enourage sellers to continue listing their parts cheaper
than everyone else. That's part of the problem. And I'm not sure what
you mean my that last sentence. Of course a part can be sold cheaper. It can
be given away for free. So it should be?

  Providing sellers with this information easily when they list parts, but not
making it easily available to buyers when buying, puts sellers at an unnecessary
advantage in this marketplace. It erodes my confidence when purchasing, or requires
me to spend an inordinate amount of time researching to save what amounts to
pennies per piece. While some would say that I should just suck it up and pay
the pennies if I don't want to do the legwork, I'd say that'd make
sense if the sellers had to do the legwork of looking up each individual part
price and entering it manually, but they don't.

What do you mean? Sellers have EXACTLY the same access to average prices that
buyers do.


  I think a nice compromise would be to show the over/under comparison against
current listing prices, instead of 6 month average.

I thought that's what it already was.



--
Marc.

thanks for your thoughtful reply.

of course i am not suggesting that parts be given away for free. i'm saying
maybe part prices are inflated if sellers are actually willing to sell for less.
as a seller, if i think a part is too cool to sell for a nickel, i keep it, cause
i know no one's gonna pay a quarter for it. or if i have a ten dollar minifig
and i dont want to sit on it for a year, i'll list it for 9 and try to move
it out. if bricklink has a problem with sellers undercutting each other, i don't
think limiting the buyers information is the smart way to fix it. why not limit
sellers ability to list a part for less than a certain price. 1x1 cheese slope
dark red - minimum price, $.02. or maybe let bricklink set the price. millennium
falcon radar dish: $10. seller paid more for it originally, tough crap, you can
only sell it here for $10. that's not fair to the seller though, is it?

regarding sellers and buyers having equal access, that's just not true. a
seller can part out a set and list the pieces automatically at the 6 month avg,
but a buyer cannot then shop for those same parts in that same sellers store
without seeing all at once whether they are above or below average price. that's
not equal access. that makes the buyer work much harder than the seller to determine
whether each individual part is listed at fair value or not.

and on your third point, yeah, that's what i thought it was too, but this
thread seems to be referring to 6mo avg, so i assumed i was misremembering.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
  In Suggestions, rofreder writes:
  Hello All, and to my recent seller please accept my appologies.

Got in some other sets today straight from lego.com and compared elements. Couldn't
distinguish any serious differences. I suppose there is a little variation among
genuine lego factory molds and plastic composition.

Thank you all for your help and concern. Got my first set in the 70's and
thought I was an expert. Guess not.

Thank you for reporting back.

Nowadays, especially in online discussions, I see far too few people willing
to admit a mistake. I really appreciate this.

Niek.

+1
Thanks.
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In Suggestions, rofreder writes:
  Hello All, and to my recent seller please accept my appologies.

Got in some other sets today straight from lego.com and compared elements. Couldn't
distinguish any serious differences. I suppose there is a little variation among
genuine lego factory molds and plastic composition.

Thank you all for your help and concern. Got my first set in the 70's and
thought I was an expert. Guess not.

Thank you for reporting back.

Nowadays, especially in online discussions, I see far too few people willing
to admit a mistake. I really appreciate this.

Niek.
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Set No: 7962  Name: Anakin's & Sebulba's Podracers
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7962-1 (Inv) Anakin's & Sebulba's Podracers
792 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2011
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Add 2 Part 93168 Dark Bluish Gray Cylinder 3 x 6 x 2 2/3 Horizontal, New Style (Alternate)

Comments from Submitter:
Found two 93168 with stickers applied as shown on p5 of the instructions
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, rofreder writes:
  I've been had!!!

Suggestion: Counterfiet Seller's Registry

First time user of Bricklink. Was excited to buy "new sealed" discontinued star
wars set on behalf of my son at what I thought was a fair price.

Posted positive feedback immediately because item was sealed and appeared to
be in authentic packaging. All logos present with circled R and tm etc.
Upon inspection of parts even noticed "LEGO" on all studs. However edges were
sharper than genuine parts, also in general parts felt lighter, minor differences
in shapes of familiar elements. Amazed at the attention to detail of the fakers.
But, in my heart of hearts I know it's a fake set. Instructions and promotional
items all there etc. I don't think my son even knows or cares. I've also
compared the seals and box to "youtube speed build" of the same authentic set
and noted differences in seals and packaging(e.g. barcoded box seals).

Is there a way to report a seller if you believe they are selling fake sets?
I would like to report this person so that others don't fall victim as I
have. I would never want to pass this set or it's elements on as authentic.
I don't even care to fight for my money back, but I don't want this to
happen to others. It has eroded my trust in bricklink at this point.

Thanks for listenting to my rant,

Duped in NC

I agree with the other responses, I believe you have received a genuine set here
but if you are still concerned I would -

1. Contact the seller, share your concerns and ask where he obtained the set
from.

if you are still concerned -

2. Contact Lego Customer Services, I am sure they will be able to quickly determine
that the item is genuine or not by asking you a few detailed questions about
the product and/or packaging. To fake a set in the way you describe including
all TLG branding in the moulding would take a pretty large operation and investment
as injection moulding tooling is not cheap to put it mildly, I'm certain
they would know about it.

HTH

Robert

Hello All, and to my recent seller please accept my appologies.

Got in some other sets today straight from lego.com and compared elements. Couldn't
distinguish any serious differences. I suppose there is a little variation among
genuine lego factory molds and plastic composition.

Thank you all for your help and concern. Got my first set in the 70's and
thought I was an expert. Guess not.

-rofreder
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In Suggestions, mgiglio writes:
  In Suggestions, tillmanbalazs writes:
  few weeks ago when I went to a wanted list, and selected the items which I wanted
to buy, then the shop, it showed what is the price of items in this shop compared
to the average price of the items.
Now this function is not available, can I ask why?
Is it possible to have it back?
Thanks,
Balázs

Voted Yes. Having this comparison helps me to buy hundreds of pieces at a time
and easily know whether the store I've chosen is charging me double what
each piece is worth, without having to check each piece manually. The only ones
to blame for a downward spiral in pricing are sellers listing their parts cheaper
than everyone else. If a part can be sold cheaper, maybe it should be.

But tools like this enourage sellers to continue listing their parts cheaper
than everyone else. That's part of the problem. And I'm not sure what
you mean my that last sentence. Of course a part can be sold cheaper. It can
be given away for free. So it should be?

  Providing sellers with this information easily when they list parts, but not
making it easily available to buyers when buying, puts sellers at an unnecessary
advantage in this marketplace. It erodes my confidence when purchasing, or requires
me to spend an inordinate amount of time researching to save what amounts to
pennies per piece. While some would say that I should just suck it up and pay
the pennies if I don't want to do the legwork, I'd say that'd make
sense if the sellers had to do the legwork of looking up each individual part
price and entering it manually, but they don't.

What do you mean? Sellers have EXACTLY the same access to average prices that
buyers do.


  I think a nice compromise would be to show the over/under comparison against
current listing prices, instead of 6 month average.

I thought that's what it already was.



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Marc.
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Set No: 75173  Name: Luke's Landspeeder
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75173-1 (Inv) Luke's Landspeeder
135 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

* Add 1 Part 4073 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 54200 Black Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4592c02 Black Lever Small Base with Black Lever (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 54200 Dark Red Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3024 Dark Bluish Gray Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 87994 Reddish Brown Bar 3L (Bar Arrow) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 64567 Metallic Silver Minifig, Weapon Lightsaber Hilt Straight (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 75c21 Light Bluish Gray Hose, Rigid 3mm D. 21L / 16.8cm (Extra)
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In Suggestions, MOC1Brix writes:
  I will gladly use up more ink for BOLD. I spend way more having to reprint pages
that didn't print boldly enough. I also get ink online and it only costs
me $13 to refill both color and black 4 times each.

Would your printer be in “draft” mode?

That mode prints with less ink. It’s often an advantage when you’re also using
(cheap) paper that “drinks” ink for, well, drafts.

And that leads to: Have you tried changing your paper?
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I will gladly use up more ink for BOLD. I spend way more having to reprint pages
that didn't print boldly enough. I also get ink online and it only costs
me $13 to refill both color and black 4 times each.
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In Suggestions, sonnich writes:
  I find it funny, that EEK has not been in use for years.
It is replaced by EUR.

I also find funny that I have mentioned this before, and the EEK still remain


Probably BL is the last site to still calculate in EEK. When will that change?

Removing it would reduce the list to 40 currencies, 4 columns of 10, and USD
wouldn’t be all alone in its own column
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I find it funny, that EEK has not been in use for years.
It is replaced by EUR.

I also find funny that I have mentioned this before, and the EEK still remain


Probably BL is the last site to still calculate in EEK. When will that change?
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  In Suggestions, sonnich writes:
  When I read:

[REMINDER] The site will be down during the monthly maintenance scheduled at
02/22 from 01:00 AM to 02:00 EDT.



Just what is EDT?

Erectile Dysfunction Treatment.
John P
  
Please use GMT - that is understood worldwide.

Not in the USA. To hard to convert so the standard here is Eastern Standard
Time. The USA has 6 time zones.



Then I suggest to have both.
It should not be hard to read the location of the computer, and therefore use
EST/EDT for the US, and GMT for Europe and,.... others where needed.
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Set No: 8182  Name: Monster Crushers
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8182-1 (Inv) Monster Crushers
388 Parts, 2009
Sets: Racers: Tiny Turbos

* Add 1 Part 2431pb467R Red Tile 1 x 4 with 'EYE WEAR', 'ENgyne', 'SUBSOUND Limiter' and White and Black Curved Lines Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 8182 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb571L Red Tile 1 x 2 with 'ENgyne' and 'Ironer' Pattern Model Left (Sticker) - Set 8182 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb572 Red Tile 1 x 2 with 'BU11' License Plate Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8182 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 54200pb082R Trans-Black Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Angry Red Eye Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 8182 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 54200pb082L Trans-Black Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Angry Red Eye Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 8182 (Counterpart)
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In Suggestions, MOC1Brix writes:
  On the inventory page would you please change the numbers in Qty to BOLD?

If my printer is even a little bit low on ink I can't read the number. Also
as
I get older it is harder to see anyway. Being in BOLD sure would help a lot!

Thanks!

Yet using bold will use more ink so your printer will run out quicker ...
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Set No: 41185  Name: Magic Rescue from the Goblin Village
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41185-1 (Inv) Magic Rescue from the Goblin Village
626 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: Elves

* Add 1 Part 892pb030 Reddish Brown Road Sign Clip-on 2 x 2 Triangle with Goblin Balalaika Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41185 (Counterpart)
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Set No: 60027  Name: Monster Truck Transporter
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60027-1 (Inv) Monster Truck Transporter
285 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: Town: City: Off-Road

* Add 1 Part 2431pb466R Dark Bluish Gray Tile 1 x 4 with Black Line, Door Handle and Key Lock Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 60027 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2431pb466L Dark Bluish Gray Tile 1 x 4 with Black Line, Door Handle and Key Lock Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 60027 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2431pb465 White Tile 1 x 4 with 'KH60027' License Plate Pattern (Sticker) - Set 60027 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2431pb465 Dark Bluish Gray Tile 1 x 4 with 'KH60027' License Plate Pattern (Sticker) - Set 60027 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb569 White Tile 1 x 2 with 'KH60027' License Plate Pattern (Sticker) - Set 60027 (Counterpart)
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On the inventory page would you please change the numbers in Qty to BOLD?

If my printer is even a little bit low on ink I can't read the number. Also
as
I get older it is harder to see anyway. Being in BOLD sure would help a lot!

Thanks!
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Set No: 79117  Name: Turtle Lair Invasion
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79117-1 (Inv) Turtle Lair Invasion
860 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

* Add 1 Part 2431pb464 Black Tile 1 x 4 with Bright Light Orange, Lime and Magenta Keyboard Panel on Clear Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 79117 (Counterpart)
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Set No: 7802  Name: Le Mans Racer polybag
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7802-1 (Inv) Le Mans Racer polybag
29 Parts, 2009
Sets: Racers: Tiny Turbos

* Add 1 Part 3068bpb1078 Black Tile 2 x 2 with Number 3 Black on White Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7802 (Counterpart)
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Set No: 70013  Name: Equila's Ultra Striker
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70013-1 (Inv) Equila's Ultra Striker
315 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2013
Sets: LEGENDS OF CHIMA

* Add 1 Part 3068bpb1079 Blue Tile 2 x 2 with Squared Bars and Receptacles and Small Port Window Pattern (Sticker) - Set 70013 (Counterpart)
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Set No: 6441  Name: Deep Reef Refuge
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6441-1 (Inv) Deep Reef Refuge
416 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1997
Sets: Town: Divers

* Add 2 Part 30079pb01 Yellow Panel 3 x 3 x 3 Corner Convex (Divers) with Yellow Submarine on Blue Triangle Pattern (Sticker) (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
See instructions p. 31.
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Set No: 1782  Name: Discovery Station
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1782-1 (Inv) Discovery Station
297 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1997
Sets: Town: Divers

* Add 2 Part 30079pb01 White Panel 3 x 3 x 3 Corner Convex (Divers) with Yellow Submarine on Blue Triangle Pattern (Sticker) (Counterpart)

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See instructions p. 17.
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In Suggestions, tillmanbalazs writes:
  few weeks ago when I went to a wanted list, and selected the items which I wanted
to buy, then the shop, it showed what is the price of items in this shop compared
to the average price of the items.
Now this function is not available, can I ask why?
Is it possible to have it back?
Thanks,
Balázs

Voted Yes. Having this comparison helps me to buy hundreds of pieces at a time
and easily know whether the store I've chosen is charging me double what
each piece is worth, without having to check each piece manually. The only ones
to blame for a downward spiral in pricing are sellers listing their parts cheaper
than everyone else. If a part can be sold cheaper, maybe it should be. Taking
information away buyers to stabilize pricing is a poor solution.

Providing sellers with this information easily when they list parts, but not
making it easily available to buyers when buying, puts sellers at an unnecessary
advantage in this marketplace. It erodes my confidence when purchasing, or requires
me to spend an inordinate amount of time researching to save what amounts to
pennies per piece. While some would say that I should just suck it up and pay
the pennies if I don't want to do the legwork, I'd say that'd make
sense if the sellers had to do the legwork of looking up each individual part
price and entering it manually, but they don't.

I think a nice compromise would be to show the over/under comparison against
current listing prices, instead of 6 month average.

I approach this from a hobbyist perspective. While I have a store, it exists
to move items that I get in bulk lots that I do not want, which helps me offset
the cost of that bulk lot and keep the items that I do want. I'm not here
to make my mortgage, it's for fun.
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Set No: 6441  Name: Deep Reef Refuge
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416 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1997
Sets: Town: Divers

* Change {2 to 4} Part White 30079pb01 Panel 3 x 3 x 3 Corner Convex (Divers) with Yellow Submarine on Blue Triangle Pattern (Sticker) (Counterpart)

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See instructions p. 16.
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In Suggestions, ruagshemel writes:
  I would like it back. It is discouraging and time consuming to compare prices
without it. It also puts customers in a situation of paying too much for stuff
if they have a long list of pieces they want and do not have the time to check
the price on every piece.
In Suggestions, Admin_Jaclyn writes:
  Just to clear things up - we did remove this intentionally. Please vote on this
suggestion if you would like to bring it back and feel free to post comments/feedback
below.

Thanks!

-Jaclyn
BrickLink Customer Support

In Suggestions, tillmanbalazs writes:
  few weeks ago when I went to a wanted list, and selected the items which I wanted
to buy, then the shop, it showed what is the price of items in this shop compared
to the average price of the items.
Now this function is not available, can I ask why?
Is it possible to have it back?
Thanks,
Balázs

You don't need to check all the pieces. Just the more expensive ones or the
ones with large numbers. If the store is appearing high up because they are cheap,
you ought to spend time on looking at their shipping fees, lot fees, other fees,
etc.

It probably works ok for US buyers, due to generally lower prices. But it doesn't
work so well if you restrict the search to smaller countries. For example, UK
prices can be 20% over average but still be cheaper than buying from a US seller.
Telling the buyer that all UK sellers are expensive compared to the world average
doesn't help. So any average price tool should recalculate averages based
on the filters selected.
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I would like it back. It is discouraging and time consuming to compare prices
without it. It also puts customers in a situation of paying too much for stuff
if they have a long list of pieces they want and do not have the time to check
the price on every piece.
In Suggestions, Admin_Jaclyn writes:
  Just to clear things up - we did remove this intentionally. Please vote on this
suggestion if you would like to bring it back and feel free to post comments/feedback
below.

Thanks!

-Jaclyn
BrickLink Customer Support

In Suggestions, tillmanbalazs writes:
  few weeks ago when I went to a wanted list, and selected the items which I wanted
to buy, then the shop, it showed what is the price of items in this shop compared
to the average price of the items.
Now this function is not available, can I ask why?
Is it possible to have it back?
Thanks,
Balázs
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This seems like a poor way to resolve the problem. Personally, I get my stock
from a number of sources, including the 2nd hand market (i.e. bricklink), if
the quality of this fake is as high as you indicate it is entirely possible the
seller was suckered him/herself without knowing it. A "registry" that would be
very detrimental to sellers seems completely out of line if you aren't even
willing to reach out to them that there was a problem. I know I would want someone
to reach out to me and give me a chance to resolve the issue.

In Suggestions, rofreder writes:
  In Suggestions, MarshMan80 writes:
  Why then did you leave the sell positive feedback "good seller; item as advertised
and in good condition"
If it was a defective/ fake item. Your feedback does not look like your un happy
with the item you bought. Have you contacted the seller? What does he have to
say about this? His other feed back reviews look good.

Marshal

Thank you for your reply. Was not as careful with the inspection as I should
have been. I was eager to leave feedback due to quick shipping on seller's
part. Was greatful to let my son get started building. It wasn't until close
inspection of the elements after my son had taken a break from building that
I realized something wasn't right.

I have not contacted the seller.

I do not wish to contact the seller. The damage is done. I just want to help
others that care about genuine LEGO.

I would suggest more info on spotting fake sets so that others don't make
the same mistake that I made. Also, if possible, a way to show verification that
you have been sold a fake and a way to report it (that is fair to the seller
as well). Possible weight comparisons of individual elements. Posting pictures
of the absence of bar coded seals. Posting pictures of diferences in genuine
vs. fake elements.

Just some ideas that may help fight the fakes.

Thank you
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1782  Name: Discovery Station
* 
1782-1 (Inv) Discovery Station
297 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1997
Sets: Town: Divers

* Add 2 Part 30079 White Panel 3 x 3 x 3 Corner Convex (Divers) (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
with fish sticker
 Author: Pher View Messages Posted By Pher
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  As a Seller, why don't you want a Buyer to have immediate access to a comparison
of your price against the average price?
What's your honest answer?

(snapped)

It is a partly random number that influences the feeling of a buyer whether a
deal is good or not. I usually don't use this feature because I have other
priorities when buying.

Imagine you buy a pack of apples. Every month. They cost always 2$. One day they
offer leftovers or promotion-bags or whatever you can imagine better. The bag
costs now 0.10$. From now on you will always see a 2$ (1.68$ average price, +18.8%)
tag beside the apples.

What does this help you? What does it do to the market?
Please think about it. You might find some answers in yourself.
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:

  
  I'm not sure I understand. You are the community overseer or we are missing
a community overseer?


Community Overseer: Mnementh (19666) - Oct 31, 2005 - Dec 27, 2013
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp

Can we elect a new Overseer? Someone to settle Forum disputes, consolidate a
consensus, and speak to the Administrators on the Forum's behalf in one voice.
The Overseer would of course have to ability to kick people like me off the
forums. O_O

Is this a forum dispute?

As Figbits said, nothing that ANY OF US say have a say in what actually happens.


You are not lobbying for something to happen, you are lobbying for people to
vote on whether people would like to see this happen.
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https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=coldis-13#T=P

There are 3 Mr. Incredible for sale for less than a penny and one for $91.

And even with the way it is, any one that is shopping has the option of comparing
prices if they are so motivated, but as many people have said, it's only
the base price and doesn't contain necessary information like

Paypal fees
lot fees
shipping costs
likelihood of actually getting the order





In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:

  I wonder how many sellers have stop-listed you based on you conduct here- i have
a feeling it's more than the number of sellers who sold to you.
Many people have given you reasonable arguments but you seem to cherry pick the
ones you want to answer to.

I need to cherry pick because I need the forum to focus. I have one question
that I've asked in various ways but have not yet received an adequate response
to.

As a Seller, why don't you want a Buyer to have immediate access to a comparison
of your price against the average price?

All I want is an honest answer. The fact that this tool isn't valuable when
grocery shopping is irrelevant. I'm willing to entertain an alternative
basis of the average price if that is your concern. I'm just unsure of why
you don't want your price compared to another, immediately at the point of
purchase.

What's your honest answer?
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I vote to bring it back. Thanks!


In Suggestions, Admin_Jaclyn writes:
  Just to clear things up - we did remove this intentionally. Please vote on this
suggestion if you would like to bring it back and feel free to post comments/feedback
below.

Thanks!

-Jaclyn
BrickLink Customer Support
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  As a Seller, why don't you want a Buyer to have immediate access to a comparison
of your price against the average price?

All I want is an honest answer. The fact that this tool isn't valuable when
grocery shopping is irrelevant. I'm willing to entertain an alternative
basis of the average price if that is your concern. I'm just unsure of why
you don't want your price compared to another, immediately at the point of
purchase.

What's your honest answer?


Having such a tool encourages sellers to implement deceptive practices.

Imagine two stores: One has average prices, honest shipping costs, and no hidden
fees. The other has lower than average prices, but charges an extra $3 on shipping,
and adds 5% to the final total for Paypal fees.

The price comparison tool will lead buyers to the second store, even if their
order would cost more there
.


I agree that it's a good thing for buyers to be able to see where they can
get what they want at a good price. For that to happen transparently, the comparison
tools need to include total final cost, not just the listed cost of the parts.
That is not possible without automated checkout.


--
Marc.
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:

  I wonder how many sellers have stop-listed you based on you conduct here- i have
a feeling it's more than the number of sellers who sold to you.
Many people have given you reasonable arguments but you seem to cherry pick the
ones you want to answer to.

I need to cherry pick because I need the forum to focus. I have one question
that I've asked in various ways but have not yet received an adequate response
to.

There have been several adequate responses, just not the one you wanted to hear.

You ignored my answer
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031247
The tool might have given you a false sense of security, but it was flawed in
may ways.

You also ignored:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031298
(Many store cut item prices but have high fees (...) those fees are not reflected
in the price guide.)

and
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031366
(Too many buyers and sellers are looking at averages blindly, not
taking into account other factors like some countries having purchase taxes and
others not (...) There aremany other factors such as add-on fees, different postal
costs in different markets, etc, etc. )

Just a few examples...

  
As a Seller, why don't you want a Buyer to have immediate access to a comparison
of your price against the average price?

All I want is an honest answer. The fact that this tool isn't valuable when
grocery shopping is irrelevant. I'm willing to entertain an alternative
basis of the average price if that is your concern. I'm just unsure of why
you don't want your price compared to another, immediately at the point of
purchase.

What's your honest answer?
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:

  
  I'm not sure I understand. You are the community overseer or we are missing
a community overseer?


Community Overseer: Mnementh (19666) - Oct 31, 2005 - Dec 27, 2013
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp

Can we elect a new Overseer? Someone to settle Forum disputes, consolidate a
consensus, and speak to the Administrators on the Forum's behalf in one voice.
The Overseer would of course have to ability to kick people like me off the
forums. O_O

That is pretty much what that role did. We used to call it "flooding" when one
member constantly posted the same thing over and over again despite getting responses
from the community.

yes, really good idea

Robert
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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:

  
  I'm not sure I understand. You are the community overseer or we are missing
a community overseer?


Community Overseer: Mnementh (19666) - Oct 31, 2005 - Dec 27, 2013
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp

Can we elect a new Overseer? Someone to settle Forum disputes, consolidate a
consensus, and speak to the Administrators on the Forum's behalf in one voice.
The Overseer would of course have to ability to kick people like me off the
forums. O_O
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  
What's your honest answer?

Because it only compared one element of the price. If it compared all elements
of the price it would be better but of course. Mostly people compare prices then
go to the store. The tool was misleading to the buyer and causing unsustainability
for the site as a whole IMO.

If you actually read at least 10 of the answers you got already instead of ignoring
the bits you didn't want to hear you'd find that would already have been
answered however, I think that is what he meant by cherry picking.

Also, as I said before the answer you are looking for would only come from the
site administration, not the membership (forum being a subset of).

Robert
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  […]
This 'forum base' you mention, who are they and who is their leader? […]

Yes, please someone. Take him to their leader.

Not sure about leader but I'm missing the community overseer role at the
moment.

Robert

I'm not sure I understand. You are the community overseer or we are missing
a community overseer?

Missing

(certainly not volunteering BTW)

Robert
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In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:

  I wonder how many sellers have stop-listed you based on you conduct here- i have
a feeling it's more than the number of sellers who sold to you.
Many people have given you reasonable arguments but you seem to cherry pick the
ones you want to answer to.

I need to cherry pick because I need the forum to focus. I have one question
that I've asked in various ways but have not yet received an adequate response
to.

As a Seller, why don't you want a Buyer to have immediate access to a comparison
of your price against the average price?

All I want is an honest answer. The fact that this tool isn't valuable when
grocery shopping is irrelevant. I'm willing to entertain an alternative
basis of the average price if that is your concern. I'm just unsure of why
you don't want your price compared to another, immediately at the point of
purchase.

What's your honest answer?
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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  Not sure about leader but I'm missing the community overseer role at the
moment.


I'm not sure I understand. You are the community overseer or we are missing
a community overseer?


Community Overseer: Mnementh (19666) - Oct 31, 2005 - Dec 27, 2013
https://www.bricklink.com/memberAdmins.asp
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:
  […]
This 'forum base' you mention, who are they and who is their leader? […]

Yes, please someone. Take him to their leader.

Not sure about leader but I'm missing the community overseer role at the
moment.

Robert

I'm not sure I understand. You are the community overseer or we are missing
a community overseer?
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In Suggestions, rofreder writes:
  I've been had!!!

Suggestion: Counterfiet Seller's Registry

First time user of Bricklink. Was excited to buy "new sealed" discontinued star
wars set on behalf of my son at what I thought was a fair price.

Posted positive feedback immediately because item was sealed and appeared to
be in authentic packaging. All logos present with circled R and tm etc.
Upon inspection of parts even noticed "LEGO" on all studs. However edges were
sharper than genuine parts, also in general parts felt lighter, minor differences
in shapes of familiar elements. Amazed at the attention to detail of the fakers.
But, in my heart of hearts I know it's a fake set. Instructions and promotional
items all there etc. I don't think my son even knows or cares. I've also
compared the seals and box to "youtube speed build" of the same authentic set
and noted differences in seals and packaging(e.g. barcoded box seals).

Is there a way to report a seller if you believe they are selling fake sets?
I would like to report this person so that others don't fall victim as I
have. I would never want to pass this set or it's elements on as authentic.
I don't even care to fight for my money back, but I don't want this to
happen to others. It has eroded my trust in bricklink at this point.

Thanks for listenting to my rant,

Duped in NC

I agree with the other responses, I believe you have received a genuine set here
but if you are still concerned I would -

1. Contact the seller, share your concerns and ask where he obtained the set
from.

if you are still concerned -

2. Contact Lego Customer Services, I am sure they will be able to quickly determine
that the item is genuine or not by asking you a few detailed questions about
the product and/or packaging. To fake a set in the way you describe including
all TLG branding in the moulding would take a pretty large operation and investment
as injection moulding tooling is not cheap to put it mildly, I'm certain
they would know about it.

HTH

Robert
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The item you have is genuine , i collect clone brands from asia and i have never
come across a set that has the lego logo on the set, bricks or instructions .
There are plenty of companies that copy lego designs but they always have their
own brand on them .
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   or just a misenterpretation of the fact Lego
had quality issues in China ....?

Lego has had quality issues in all factories.
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In Suggestions, rofreder writes:
  I've been had!!!

Suggestion: Counterfiet Seller's Registry

First time user of Bricklink. Was excited to buy "new sealed" discontinued star
wars set on behalf of my son at what I thought was a fair price.

Posted positive feedback immediately because item was sealed and appeared to
be in authentic packaging. All logos present with circled R and tm etc.
Upon inspection of parts even noticed "LEGO" on all studs. However edges were
sharper than genuine parts, also in general parts felt lighter, minor differences
in shapes of familiar elements. Amazed at the attention to detail of the fakers.
But, in my heart of hearts I know it's a fake set. Instructions and promotional
items all there etc. I don't think my son even knows or cares. I've also
compared the seals and box to "youtube speed build" of the same authentic set
and noted differences in seals and packaging(e.g. barcoded box seals).

Is there a way to report a seller if you believe they are selling fake sets?
I would like to report this person so that others don't fall victim as I
have. I would never want to pass this set or it's elements on as authentic.
I don't even care to fight for my money back, but I don't want this to
happen to others. It has eroded my trust in bricklink at this point.

Thanks for listenting to my rant,

Duped in NC

I agree with everyone in this thread, I have never seen a fake with the LEGO
logo.
Please share photos of all the variations that you suspect are not genuine.

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