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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Apr 11, 2018 03:57
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 970672-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 970672  Name: Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
* 
970672-1 (Inv) Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
78 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2002
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Special Element Sets

* Delete 2 Part 4032b Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Delete 2 Part 4032b White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Add 2 Part 4032 White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
* Add 2 Part 4032 Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole

Comments from Submitter:
Since inventory requests are saved permanently, please see the discussion here:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1085733
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Apr 11, 2018 03:53
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 970089-1
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 970089  Name: Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
* 
970089-1 (Inv) Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
78 Parts, 1 Minifigure
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Special Element Sets

* Delete 2 Part 4032b Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Delete 2 Part 4032b White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Add 2 Part 4032 White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
* Add 2 Part 4032 Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole

These are rather complicated requests. First, although this set doesn't
have a year of release, the correct year of release is very likely 1998 to coincide
with the release of this set:

 
Set No: 9725  Name: ROBOLAB Amusement Park Set {1998 Version}
* 
9725-1 (Inv) ROBOLAB Amusement Park Set {1998 Version}
284 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2 Books, 4 Gear, 1998
Sets: Educational & Dacta: MINDSTORMS: RCX

This surmise is an educated guess based on my knowledge of Educational/Dacta
items. If true, then it would have been years before 4032b with the X opening
began to appear. The special elements set, BTW, is a rare set for which little
other evidence is available. The current inventory has no source.

There is a second set with identical contents which was released in 2002:

 
Set No: 970672  Name: Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
* 
970672-1 (Inv) Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
78 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2002
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Special Element Sets

This is exactly the same set with a different item number. This is not uncommon
and I believe the catalog has a couple handfuls of duplicate E&D entries due
to different item numbers being used for the same items (this happened fairly
frequently for E&D sets). In other words, this is likely the exactly the same
set which had been around since 1998.

The X opening appears in this set, but the source is parts list. This set is
the earliest instance of the X opening 4032 on BrickLink along with this set:

 
Set No: 9649  Name: Technology Resource Set
* 
9649-1 (Inv) Technology Resource Set
1110 Parts, 2 Gear, 2002
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Technic

However, for 9649-1, the X opening appears as an alternate and was added along
with bluish gray parts - a clear indication that the set used for the changes
came from 2004 or later. Considering all of the above, I believe that the X
opening did not first appear until 2003.

Regardless of all that, though, the X opening 4032 is a far less common variant
which should not have been added to this set inventory without having been confirmed
with an actual set.

However, these requests are essentially based on conjecture and not facts, so
I will leave them open for a few days to give people the opportunity to comment/object
(and I'm certainly not above having my own requests rejected or rejecting
them myself).
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Apr 11, 2018 03:19
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 970089-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 970089  Name: Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
* 
970089-1 (Inv) Special Elements for Amusement Park Set
78 Parts, 1 Minifigure
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Special Element Sets

* Delete 2 Part 4032b Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Delete 2 Part 4032b White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening
* Add 2 Part 4032 White Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
* Add 2 Part 4032 Black Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Apr 11, 2018 02:36
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8105-1
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In Inventories Requests, jimbo4273 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8105  Name: Iron Condor
* 
8105-1 (Inv) Iron Condor
133 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2007
Sets: Exo-Force

* Add 1 Minifig exf015 Devastator - Pearl Light Gray Torso, Red Eyes
* Delete 1 Minifig exf009 Devastator - Trans-Red Torso, Red Eyes

Comments from Submitter:
The instructions and LEGO inventory page depicts a Devastator with a trans-red torso, but the set comes with a pearl light gray torso

In instruction there is part color code listed: 4494597 so for this part
 
Part No: 53988  Name: Torso/Head Mechanical, Exo-Force Robot
* 
53988 Torso/Head Mechanical, Exo-Force Robot
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
but I dig through some of photos of this set in google https://www.google.com/search?q=Lego+8105&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQjrauzLHaAhUlKpoKHUP3BH8Q_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=949
and I found that people have this set with this minifig
 
Minifig No: exf009  Name: Devastator - Trans-Red Torso, Red Eyes
* 
exf009 (Inv) Devastator - Trans-Red Torso, Red Eyes
Minifigures: Exo-Force
or this
 
Minifig No: exf015  Name: Devastator - Pearl Light Gray Torso, Red Eyes
* 
exf015 (Inv) Devastator - Pearl Light Gray Torso, Red Eyes
Minifigures: Exo-Force
For example here is with trans red https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U3nGXRyIkw
and here is with pearl light gray http://disneyworldgang.com/Lego/images/8105.jpg
So I think this set can have both, one is alternate.

Marek
 Author: jimbo4273 View Messages Posted By jimbo4273
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 19:04
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8105  Name: Iron Condor
* 
8105-1 (Inv) Iron Condor
133 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2007
Sets: Exo-Force

* Add 1 Minifig exf015 Devastator - Pearl Light Gray Torso, Red Eyes
* Delete 1 Minifig exf009 Devastator - Trans-Red Torso, Red Eyes

Comments from Submitter:
The instructions and LEGO inventory page depicts a Devastator with a trans-red torso, but the set comes with a pearl light gray torso
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 17:24
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8416-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8416  Name: Forklift
* 
8416-1 (Inv) Forklift
729 Parts, 2005
Sets: Technic: Model: Construction

* Add 1 Part 4032b Red Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole - X Opening (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 1 Part Red 4032 Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that were never mixed with other bricks.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 15:26
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1
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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8285  Name: Tow Truck
* 
8285-1 (Inv) Tow Truck
1879 Parts, 2006
Sets: Technic: Model: Traffic

* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.

Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:

1) Part

 
Part No: 32181c02  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
* 
32181c02 Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Marked for Deletion

says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.

Yes, what ever happened to 32181c01? There is a 32181c03:
 
Part No: 32181c03  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped - No Spring
* 
32181c03 (Inv) Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped - No Spring
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Looks like we need one that has a spring.


  2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).

 
Part No: 32054  Name: Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
* 
32054 Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 41677  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
* 
41677 Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
 
Part No: 6538c  Name: Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
* 
6538c Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Part No: 32278  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
* 
32278 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
Parts: Technic, Liftarm

/Jan

This other situation could be a case of multiple instructions. Check yours against
some of the others listed in databases. Brickset is a great resource for this
- there is a link there provided by Swooshable that will give you all the major
sources.

I already checked that but forgot to write it.

My instruction's seem to be identical to the ones on the LEGO website, and
the inventory count in book 3 are the same counts as BL's inventory (e.g.
37x 32278). But that list obviously don't match the actual contents of my
and the Peeron inventory authors box contents and the actual number of parts
needed for the build. I just recounted the number of 32278's used to build
the main model. It's 36 (my count for the secondary model is 35).

/Jan
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 14:51
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8285  Name: Tow Truck
* 
8285-1 (Inv) Tow Truck
1879 Parts, 2006
Sets: Technic: Model: Traffic

* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.

Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:

1) Part

 
Part No: 32181c02  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
* 
32181c02 Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Marked for Deletion

says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.

Yes, what ever happened to 32181c01? There is a 32181c03:
 
Part No: 32181c03  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped - No Spring
* 
32181c03 (Inv) Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped - No Spring
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Looks like we need one that has a spring.


  2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).

 
Part No: 32054  Name: Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
* 
32054 Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 41677  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
* 
41677 Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
 
Part No: 6538c  Name: Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
* 
6538c Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Part No: 32278  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
* 
32278 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
Parts: Technic, Liftarm

/Jan

This other situation could be a case of multiple instructions. Check yours against
some of the others listed in databases. Brickset is a great resource for this
- there is a link there provided by Swooshable that will give you all the major
sources.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 14:20
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8285  Name: Tow Truck
* 
8285-1 (Inv) Tow Truck
1879 Parts, 2006
Sets: Technic: Model: Traffic

* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.

Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:

1) Part

 
Part No: 32181c02  Name: Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
* 
32181c02 Technic, Shock Absorber 10L Damped (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Technic, Shock Absorber
Marked for Deletion

says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.

2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).

 
Part No: 32054  Name: Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
* 
32054 Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Stop Bush
Parts: Technic, Pin
 
Part No: 41677  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
* 
41677 Technic, Liftarm Thin 1 x 2 - Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Liftarm
 
Part No: 6538c  Name: Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
* 
6538c Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
Parts: Technic, Connector
 
Part No: 32278  Name: Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
* 
32278 Technic, Liftarm Thick 1 x 15
Parts: Technic, Liftarm

/Jan
 
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Apr 10, 2018 13:51
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8285  Name: Tow Truck
* 
8285-1 (Inv) Tow Truck
1879 Parts, 2006
Sets: Technic: Model: Traffic

* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.

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