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While implementing this foolishness, let's have BL eleminate a store's
ability to charge a "minimum buy" . That way a buyer is no longer FORCED to purchase
extra parts they don't need so a buyer can make profits. Then prohibit lot
limits for the stores which choose to make easy profits that way. Then BL can
further determine the "value" of our LEGO for us! All LEGO parts are sold at
$xxxx no more plummeting prices!
In the end all the sales are public information and some one will get it and
just charge us to get the information,lol! Dang free will and free market. Maybe
you are to young to remember paperback price guides published yearly and monthly
for everything from action figures, baseball cards, cars, stamps, etc. LEGO is
no different.
Bdaddy360

Actually, I was being saracstic at the way bricklink has taken away a feature
that every buyer would actually use and a feature that I have used multiple times.
Maybe your too young to remember sarcasm.

Author:

chetzler

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Mar 15, 2017 23:27

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Have you seen any of the MOCs Miro has posted here? I'm pretty sure he knows
about building a winter village.

exempli gratia:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=958025
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1014769
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=946159

There are probably more. I'm mostly reposting these just because I think
Miro does some fantastic work

Author:

M.Boss

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Mar 15, 2017 23:21

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In Suggestions, chetzler writes:

Have you seen any of the MOCs Miro has posted here? I'm pretty sure he knows
about building a winter village.

Definitely knows about building a winter village. https://www.bricklink.com/store/home.page?p=Miro78#/shop?o={"catID":"124","itemStatus":"U"}

M.Boss

Author:

chetzler

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 23:11

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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:

In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:

I was going to try to explain again why this feature is not a healthy and sustainable
feature, but I think some people just need to experience it firsthand. So my
suggestion to you is to try to run a profitable Bricklink store for a year or
two and get back to us on how you are doing.

Have a Good Day!

Miro

Miro - I understand your tone, I really do. And I say this with all due respect;
try building a Winter Village for 8 years and come back and tell us how it goes.

Have you seen any of the MOCs Miro has posted here? I'm pretty sure he knows
about building a winter village.

It takes a lot of time, it's a lot of hard work, and it's *very* expensive.
My profits come in the form of bricks, and I need to maximize my profits. I
had a tool to help me do that, and I used it, may I have it back now please?

Vote yes on the suggestion of giving the Buyer back the average pricing tool.
Use this link, vote yes in the upper left corner under author information: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088

Author:

Smron

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 22:41

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:

In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

I very much disagree there, at least compared to a flat view. Having a branching
tree is a huge benefit. One improvement would be to be able to collapse a branch
(as on reddit). But if this is your major concern, I think you are way off. The
branching structure is a huge benefit of the current format. It is not a fault
at all.

Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.

To me, that's largely irrelevant. I care much more about content than style.
For the site itself, the style is important, because it's a commercial website
that is looking to make money for its sellers (myself among them). But for the
forum? Who cares. The appearance is neither a positive nor a negative. It's
irrelevant.

Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...

Notifications and message tracking, absolutely. Those should be added. Tags already
exist for catalog items. Referencing other users: meh. Online status of users:
meh. Avatars? Please no. There are way too many juvenile forums where 50% of
the "content" is animated gift and signature files. That contributes nothing
to actual discussions, and we are better off without them.

So ... Yes, we could use the ability to track read/unread status, and receive
notifications.
That's about it.

--
Marc.

More or less agree. I'm not sure we need a 'new forum', but our current
forum could use some upgrades.

Top things I would like to see...

1) Ability to collapse threads.
2) Ability to edit posts
3) Deleting cancelled posts
4) Notifications/mentions/user tags
5) Ability to find a post 'helpful' or not. (This one isn't really
important, I just wanted to get my list to 5 things...)

Author:

FigBits

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Mar 15, 2017 22:39

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Re: price overview when buying a wanted list

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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:

In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:

I don't think anyone has issues with this being discussed. But I for one
would really REALLY like if you stopped campaigning so much by adding the URL
each time.

Again, I don't ask this because I am necessarily against the suggestion,
I just find this is getting incredibly annoying. Everyone on the forum knows
by now where to vote. Please stop. Please.

Niek.

Hi Niek. As I'm sure 'everyone on the forum' has figured out by
now that I'm new here. And in my brief time here I have come to find that
I am one of at least 5 new people that have stumbled upon this forum in search
of the reason why the average pricing tool was removed. And as another member
suggested, this forum could use a little updating as it's not always easy
to follow conversations. So I want to make it real easy for those who are new
to find where they need to go to suggest that tool be brought back.

They can go here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088

Keep human nature in mind. I have mentioned that I am on the fence about this
issue. But your annoying campaigning convinced me to vote No.

--
Marc.

(Also keep in mind that the votes mean nothing.)

Author:

FigBits

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 22:32

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...

Author:

viejos

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 22:13

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Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8043-1

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Inventories Requests

In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:

Please make changes to the following inventory:

8043-1 (Inv) Motorized Excavator
1123 Parts, 2010
Sets: Technic: Model: Construction

* Add 6 Part 32184 Black Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular 3L with Center Pin Hole (Alternate) (match ID 6)
* Add 43 Part 43093 Blue Technic, Axle Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise (Alternate) (match ID 6)
* Add 8 Part 6587 Dark Tan Technic, Axle 3 with Stud (Alternate) (match ID 6)
* Change 7 Part Black 32184 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular 3L with Center Pin Hole {match ID 0 to 6}
* Change 9 Part Dark Tan 6587 Technic, Axle 3 with Stud {match ID 0 to 6}
* Change 1 Part Tan 3749 Technic, Axle Pin without Friction Ridges Lengthwise {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}

Comments from Submitter:
Please see following post.

These requests "fill out" the previous request filed here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1020998

If that change is approved and the line is then set to match number 6, these
changes I am filing now should mesh seamlessly.

There are indeed 2 versions of instructions for this set, although they apparently
don't have anything to do with the linear actuators, at least not directly.
All instructions are available at Brickset, but I have attached the pertinent
pages below (from book 1). Also attached is an image of a service pack where
new actuators were included with the extra parts for the axle replacement.

What is happening essentially is that an axle pin is being replaced by a 4-axle
with a stud (p. 45), which will enable the gears to flow more smoothly. There
is a support added to the other end of the axle (p. 41) to keep it stable.

Author:

viejos

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 21:53

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Inventory Change Request for Set 8043-1

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Inventories Requests (Entry)

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

8043-1 (Inv) Motorized Excavator
1123 Parts, 2010
Sets: Technic: Model: Construction

Author:

qwertyboy

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Mar 15, 2017 21:10

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It is crystal clear you are only here to annoy. I am done with this childish
behavior.

Niek.

Author:

TokerSays

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Mar 15, 2017 20:59

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In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:

Author:

qwertyboy

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Mar 15, 2017 20:41

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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:

In Suggestions, dfurman writes:

You can go away now.

Author:

TokerSays

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 20:34

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Re: price overview when buying a wanted list

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In Suggestions, dfurman writes:

You can go away now.

I’m not done yet. I have yet to hear a convincing reason why I should not, en
masse, be able to tell which one of your Lego bricks is priced at or below average?
I already have access to this information, why can I not have easier access?
Why can’t it be made easier for me to tell which one of these stores carries
the largest selection of average priced pieces?

You can vote yes to the suggestion of making shopping easier on BL here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088

Please also review previous posts in this thread for the tale of “If My Store
Closes the Entire Lego Marketplace Will Crumble to its Knees.” It’s a romantic
comedy…

-Toker

Author:

qwertyboy

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 17:42

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:

In Suggestions, viejos writes:

[…]
and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. […]

Hmm, that would be what? 3 people?

(Like the forum as it is now: a web-ized mailing list.)

Ah, yes please. I vote to turn it into a mailing list, great suggestion. Glad
to see there are more fans here.

Niek.

Author:

ranarn

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 16:57

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Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.

First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.

Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.

Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...

For an example of a modern forum i suggest looking at: https://www.discourse.org

In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

What would you actually change?

You say you want modern, but what exactly would you propose?

I find I can follow a thread quite easily, for example.

Rather than just saying you want change, say what you would change.

Author:

bdaddy360

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 15:37

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Re: DO AWAY WITH PRICE GUIDE.......

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In Suggestions, thewolf06 writes:

This site is going in the right direction with taking away important features
like being able to compare price. I think we need to go one step further and
COMPLETELY DELETE the PRICE GUIDE. Lets take it all away, and then there is no
comparison at all.

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 15:14

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Author:

ranarn

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 14:28

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Yea lets not embrace the future and newer technology's, let stay in the past.
Everything was better before, don't change anything that works.

If everyone had that mindset we would still live in the stone-age.

In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:

In Suggestions, viejos writes:

In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.

And its not perfect, nothing ever is. There is always room for improvement.

What I meant by perfect, was that the type of forum that we have now is a perfect
fit for this site. The kind of discussions we often have on BrickLink lend themselves
to the tree structure. I also think it's important to have people's ID
cards displayed prominently along with all the other information about the post
itself.

And yes, I do use other forums quite heavily. I have over 10,000 upvotes on my
Disqus profile and every few weeks I have to clear my block list (max 1000 users)
because I block and flag constantly. I could barely name a handful of profiles
I have gotten to "know" over the years.

Contrast that to BrickLink where I've never blocked anybody, and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. The BrickLink forum has
a personal feel to it, and we risk losing that if we import something generic.

+1 you said it perfectly for me too

Robert

Author:

dearlydeparted

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 13:40

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Re: price overview when buying a wanted list

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In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:

If you allow me to take one sentence out of your reply:

I had a $50 cart and what I thought was a great deal.

This is _exactly_ why others would argue to have that feature removed. And if
you allow me to quote another tidbit from a different thread you posted:

Because I can't imagine the site administrators would knowingly remove the feature and allow the happy wonderful Lego fans through out the world who have gathered together here in the safe and welcoming site that is Bricklink to be knowingly ripped off. Some dude last week tried to charge me $2.00 for a 35 cent piece. It was an odd piece, I needed it. But I didn't '500% make up' need it. I can't keep track of the average price of 1000s of pieces

You have to understand that nobody is trying to rip you off by pricing items
in a certain way. That price is there to see and agree with or not.
I fully understand that automatically comparing prices to the last 6 month average
makes it easier to pick the best deal, but by doing this. BrickLink is actively
helping to push prices down. Shops that have priced items reasonably will see
that over time they will lose out on orders because others will undercut the
prices, and buyers will more and more favor the lower-priced options, thus further
put pressure on the L6MA. Stores that don't constantly adjust their prices
will eventually maybe show 500% above average. That does NOT mean they are ripping
buyers off.

The price comparison feature was introduced some time in the last year. Before
that, people were able to buy their LEGO just fine, but there can't be much
doubt that this feature was helping the downward spiral of item prices. This
is not in the interest of BrickLink, and not in the interest of the sellers.
And if you think about it, in the long run it is also not in the interest of
buyers. Many larger shops are feeling the pressure, and have to think about whether
this is still a market that is worthwhile to pursue. Sure, if they close shop,
others will fill the void, but it will be more and more of the lowest-prices-quick-sale-goodbye
shops. And that is not good for anyone.

Just my $0.02.

Niek.

+1 Right on the mark.

Author:

Pher

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 13:19

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

We could start a poll in the forum to find out

haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.

I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.

Forum? Which forum?

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 13:11

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, viejos writes:

[…]
and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. […]

Hmm, that would be what? 3 people?

(Like the forum as it is now: a web-ized mailing list.)

Author:

Rob_and_Shelagh

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 12:57

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, viejos writes:

In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

+1 you said it perfectly for me too

Robert

Author:

viejos

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 12:49

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

Author:

legoman77

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 12:42

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?

Do you mean the 1990s or 1890s?

John P

Author:

Brettj666

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 12:12

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

We could start a poll in the forum to find out

haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.

I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.

Like that baseball writer that got to vote on the hall of fame and voted for
either Cal Ripken or Tony Gwynn..

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 11:56

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Re: Better Forum

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We could start a poll in the forum to find out

haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.

I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 11:55

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Miro - I understand your tone, I really do. And I say this with all due respect;
try building a Winter Village for 8 years and come back and tell us how it goes.
It takes a lot of time,

8 years to be precise.

it's a lot of hard work

It is as hard as you make it.

and it's *very* expensive.

Again, it is as expensive as you make it. If parts are expensive, where possible
change the parts you use - different colours or parts can often do the same thing
but can be significantly cheaper.

Knowing values / prices of parts you use a lot can help there. Knowing what you
will pay for a part is often better than knowing the average price.

Author:

Brettj666

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 11:53

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, Pher writes:

In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:

In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

Ok rephrase, not impossible, but unnecessary hard.
Always room for improvement, there is a reason no forum on the internet looks
like this nowdays, and if it was so great, why did they use a modern forum for
stud.io for example?

In Suggestions, Made_In_Bricks writes:

can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?

And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.

To me, it once again comes down to a fixed amount of time and what would I want
them spending their time on.

It's totally unknown what % of bricklink users even KNOW about the forum,
much less use it.
1% maybe?

We could start a poll in the forum to find out

haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 11:48

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It's totally unknown what % of bricklink users even KNOW about the forum,
much less use it.
1% maybe?

A reasonable number of new users (under 10 feedback) seem to be finding it and
using it. I imagine quite a lot of users do know about it, just don't use
it.

Author:

Pher

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 11:46

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:

In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?

And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.

We could start a poll in the forum to find out

Author:

Brettj666

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 11:28

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In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?

And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.

Author:

randyf

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 11:22

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In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

Ok rephrase, not impossible, but unnecessary hard.

You, as well as many others (even new users!), seem to be doing quite well with
something that is unnecessarily hard. #FirstWorldProblems

Randy

Author:

randyf

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 11:16

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

No offense, but your argument fails because there is *always* a learning curve
for *any* software, technology, website, game, etc. It may take minutes, hours,
days, whatever, but there is *always* an acclimation period to anything new we
humans do in our lifetimes.

And no, there does not have to be anything inherently wrong with a software or
technology if just a few people are having problems with it. You cannot please
everyone all of the time, but you can please most people most of the time. I
think this forum already does that.

Randy

Author:

beleuco

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 10:25

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Re: price overview when buying a wanted list

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Make sure it is clear in your terms and that will be within the rules...

Author:

BLUSER_402445

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 10:20

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Re: price overview when buying a wanted list

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Voted no but will change my mind if all fees/surcharges are included in the price
displayed.

I can open a store, list all my parts at 0.001c and then charge a "market value
fee" being the 6 month average on every part...

Author:

dfurman

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 10:15

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Re: price overview when buying a wanted list

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In Suggestions, TokerSays writes:

In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:

Miro - I understand your tone, I really do. And I say this with all due respect;
try building a Winter Village for 8 years and come back and tell us how it goes.
It takes a lot of time, it's a lot of hard work, and it's *very* expensive.
My profits come in the form of bricks, and I need to maximize my profits. I
had a tool to help me do that, and I used it, may I have it back now please?

Vote yes on the suggestion of giving the Buyer back the average pricing tool.
Use this link, vote yes in the upper left corner under author information: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031088

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1023819

You can go away now.

Author:

TokerSays

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 09:37

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Re: price overview when buying a wanted list

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In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 04:59

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Re: Better Forum

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If a user cannot learn to use the forum, then they don't have a chance with
the main BL site.

I also disagree about there shouldn't be a learning curve. If you are used
to one technology, then any new technology will be different and hence there
is a learning curve. For example, when gmail came along, there was a different
approach to storing emails. For many people that took some time to get used to,
different to storing emails in individual folders.

Author:

ranarn

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 04:36

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can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?

And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.

Author:

ranarn

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 04:33

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Re: Better Forum

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In Suggestions, ranarn writes:

Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.

And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.

So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?

Voted no. The BrickLink Forum is perfect here. Once you learn to use it, you
can find your way around quite fast.

The only thing I would like in addition is the ability to flag messages and threads,
and receive notifications. But that could be added to what we have.

Author:

KoUraky

Posted:

Mar 15, 2017 03:06

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Re: price overview when buying a wanted list

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