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 Author: par016 View Messages Posted By par016
 Posted: Oct 17, 2020 15:18
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  It is finished.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

We'd be interested in hearing feedback on the project if anyone would like
to share it.

I can see that I am in the vast minority here on the forum, and I really haven't
used this outlet much over the last 5 or so years, but I cannot begin to express
how frustrated these changes have made me. I have spent the last 6 month slowly
sorting through over 100,000 used parts. This is an especially tedious job,
one that I do not undertake very often. I literally just finished about a week
ago. I spent half of last week reorganizing all my drawers by category, setting
everything up perfectly and have been looking forward to a very organized office
for the first time in a long while.

This week I began sorting through the final miscellaneous pieces that I had missed
only to find that things are not where they were previously or where I expect
them to be. I have gotten a few orders in the last 2 weeks where I search and
search and search for an item only to find out that it's totally been moved
to a new location.

I know many people have said I should use remarks and drawer numbers, but not
everyone does this and I have my reasons for not doing it. It overcomplicates
my storage system and adds an extra step in packing orders that I really do not
think is necessary.

I do appreciate the streamlining of the catalog however, I myself tried to contribute
to that the last time I sorted through used inventory about 5 years ago. That
seemed to fall on deaf ears as every one of my catalog change requests was denied,
even though I had many valid changes.

My biggest frustration with this whole ordeal is that there has literally been
NO COMMUNICATION about these changes. I found out through trial and error, and
lots of frustration and then I had to come to the forum to learn what has happened.
I now how to spend days rearranging my drawers and set up (something I just
finished doing!). How is there no communication to sellers about these changes,
this really is inexcusable. A simple email or an area on our profile that shows
parts that have changed categories in your store would have been beyond helpful.

I see the list posted on this thread and that is at least a little helpful, but
I have no idea if it is an exhaustive list or not. I would appreciate a way
to know everything that has changed, otherwise I will have to pour through the
change log over days to try to figure out what goes where now.

I know this is a long rant. I am happy the catalog is changing and being more
streamlined, I am not upset about that, however these changes have huge ramifications
to every seller. Not everyone sets up there storage system the same way, and
completely changing the catalog without any communication is totally unacceptable.
Not everyone used/knows about the forum either. A change here and there is
easy to deal with but the number of changes that have occurred in the last month
or two NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED TO SELLERS THAT IT AFFECT.

-Pete
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 22:18
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  the chaos of BL's literally hundreds of discrete systems of item
numbering.

Here's another message I posted regarding the use of letters in part numbers:


Letter C Used to Describe an Assembly
 
Part No: 69c02  Name: Tap 1 x 2 Base with Chrome Silver Spout (69 / 70)
* 
69c02 (Inv) Tap 1 x 2 Base with Chrome Silver Spout (69 / 70)
Parts: Tap

Letter C and "assy" Used to Describe Two Assemblies
 
Part No: 122c01assy3  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Red Wheels with Black Tires 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium (122c01/ 4084)
* 
122c01assy3 (Inv) Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Red Wheels with Black Tires 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium (122c01/ 4084)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly

Letter C Used as Part of Abbreviation for Classic
 
Part No: 823cl  Name: Garage Door Solid with Fixed Counterweights - Classic
* 
823cl Garage Door Solid with Fixed Counterweights - Classic
Parts: Classic

Letter C Used to Describe a Hose
 
Part No: 78c32  Name: Hose, Ribbed 7mm D. 32L / 25.6cm
* 
78c32 Hose, Ribbed 7mm D. 32L / 25.6cm
Parts: Hose, Ribbed 7mm D.

Letter C Used to Describe a Multipack Part
 
Part No: 93080c  Name: Friends Accessories Hair Dryer
* 
93080c Friends Accessories Hair Dryer
Parts: Friends

Letter C Used to Describe a Variant
 
Part No: 2609c  Name: Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Shallow Notch
* 
2609c Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Shallow Notch
Parts: Magnet

But it all seems to make perfect sense to the site itself, of course.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 22:10
 Subject: Re: Identification number 1
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Now maybe we should question if those are really Design IDs or just mold numbers...

I don't know this for certain, but I strongly suspect someone pre-BrickLink
(LDraw? Peeron?) just went through and started numbering things without regard
to actual part numbers. BrickLink simply copied those item numbers from whomever
did the original numbering.

Search for all parts and order them by item number, up. It should become evident
that these are numbers somewhat randomly assigned to parts by fans prior to BrickLink's
use of bb* numbers.

On item numbers, BTW, we got shut down pretty quickly when we suggested introducing
order to the chaos of BL's literally hundreds of discrete systems of item
numbering. For example, here's something I posted privately regarding the
numbering of figures:

  I count 68 distinct numbering systems as follows:

1-Digit Letter + Number + 2-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
x4cx01

1-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
x30

1-Digit Torso Letter + 3-Digit Number
s003

2-Digit Generic Identifier + 4-Digit Number
bb0001

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
sc072

2-Digit Theme, Capitalized + 3-Digit Number
CL001

2-Digit Theme, Capitalized + 3-Digit Number + Letter
WC016s

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
dp029s

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 2-Digit Letter
sp085sb

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
pi013new

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter + Number
sp001new2

2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Number
sw0522

2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Number + Letter
sw0001d

2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Set Number
cc4066

2-Digit Theme, One Number, One Letter + 3-Digit Number
4j001

2-Digit Theme, One Number, One Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
4j003a

3-Digit Time Period + 3-Digit Number
old021

3-Digit Time Period + 3-Digit Number + Letter
old046s

3-Digit Theme + Number + Letter
fab1a

3-Digit Theme, Capitalized + Number + Letter
Fab3e

3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number + Letter
fab10a

3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
colsh13

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Letter Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
scaFemA02

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Item Type + 3-Digit Number
dupfig001

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Item Type + 3-Digit Number + Letter
dupfig001r

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
tlm139

3-Digit Theme, All Caps + 3-Digit Number
LLP002

3-Digit Theme, All Caps + 3-Digit Number + Letter
LLP003a

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
agt020a

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + Number
rac036s2

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + 2-Digit Number
pln102s01

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 2-Digit Letter
cas046cm

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
cas050new

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter Capitalized
fab001BHP

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + 2-Digit Number
bat011c01

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
coluni01

3-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
coltlbm01

3-Digit Theme + 7-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
dupmermaid01

3-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
hor019

4-Digit Name
pooh

4-Digit Part Number
5473

4-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number
4555pb135

4-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
4555pb142a

4-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
clik01

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
uagt004

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
fire005s

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
post001new

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Number
belvFem2

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Number + Letter
belvFem4a

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
belvFem10

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number + Letter
belvfem10a

4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + Number
belvBaby1

4-Digit Theme, Capitalization Reversed + 4-Digit Descriptor + Number + Letter
Belvbaby2a

4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
belvFair02

4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number + Letter
belvFair01a

4-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
jred010

4-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number + Letter
jred024s

5-Digit Part Number
23048

5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter
23047b

5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter + 1-Digit Number
51991e1

5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
45219c01

5-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number
47205pb001

5-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
47394pb018b

5-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
ncklc008

5-Digit Unknown Letters + 3-Digit Number
airdg001

6-Digit Name
Eeyore

6-Digit Name + 3-Digit Descriptor
Eeyorenew

6-Digit Torso Identifier
redsox
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 09:43
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In Catalog, Mr_Rofl writes:
  In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
  Is there a piece with the identification number one if not what is the lowest
identification number?

Nice to play with the numbers and learning myself something in the process.

On top of my head I knew

 
Part No: 8  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* 
8 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
existed, but playing with it. Number 1 also does exist.

 
Part No: 1  Name: Homemaker Bookcase 2 x 4 x 4
* 
1 Homemaker Bookcase 2 x 4 x 4
Parts: Homemaker
 
Part No: 2  Name: Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4
* 
2 Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4
Parts: Homemaker
 
Part No: 3  Name: Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4 Drawer
* 
3 Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4 Drawer
Parts: Homemaker
[p=4]
 
Part No: 5  Name: Ladder Holder for Ladder 16 x 4 with Semi-Circular Pivot
* 
5 Ladder Holder for Ladder 16 x 4 with Semi-Circular Pivot
Parts: Ladder
[p=6]
[p=7]
 
Part No: 8  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* 
8 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
[p=9]
[p=10]

Now maybe we should question if those are really Design IDs or just mold numbers...
 Author: Mr_Rofl View Messages Posted By Mr_Rofl
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 09:21
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In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
  Is there a piece with the identification number one if not what is the lowest
identification number?

Nice to play with the numbers and learning myself something in the process.

On top of my head I knew

 
Part No: 8  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* 
8 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
existed, but playing with it. Number 1 also does exist.

 
Part No: 1  Name: Homemaker Bookcase 2 x 4 x 4
* 
1 Homemaker Bookcase 2 x 4 x 4
Parts: Homemaker
 
Part No: 2  Name: Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4
* 
2 Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4
Parts: Homemaker
 
Part No: 3  Name: Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4 Drawer
* 
3 Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4 Drawer
Parts: Homemaker
[p=4]
 
Part No: 5  Name: Ladder Holder for Ladder 16 x 4 with Semi-Circular Pivot
* 
5 Ladder Holder for Ladder 16 x 4 with Semi-Circular Pivot
Parts: Ladder
[p=6]
[p=7]
 
Part No: 8  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* 
8 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
[p=9]
[p=10]
 Author: Iliketurtles1 View Messages Posted By Iliketurtles1
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 08:49
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Is there a piece with the identification number one if not what is the lowest
identification number?
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Oct 15, 2020 04:26
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In Catalog, enig writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  It is finished.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

We'd be interested in hearing feedback on the project if anyone would like
to share it.

May I suggest moving the following to 'Bar' category
 
Part No: 30031  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Handlebars
* 
30031 Minifigure, Utensil Handlebars
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil

+1
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  It is finished.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

We'd be interested in hearing feedback on the project if anyone would like
to share it.

May I suggest moving the following to 'Bar' category
 
Part No: 30031  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Handlebars
* 
30031 Minifigure, Utensil Handlebars
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
 Author: mockingbird View Messages Posted By mockingbird
 Posted: Oct 14, 2020 05:27
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Parts: should be treated as regular parts. Similar to parts in colours-not-used-in-sets
that get no special entry.

Figures: Maybe add the figure as designed by Lego to the catalog as a minifig.
But not all the different variations one can make. (these parts should be added
as parts). Parts description just as regular parts.

Sets: Add the set as designed by Lego to the catalog. Variations should not be
added as set. Parts should be added as regular parts.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 14, 2020 01:14
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In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

I agree that the whole concept is to build the figure how you want. However there
are lots of unique complete figures that TLG has meant to be assembled together.
I think the suggestions from TLG should be able to be found and sold as a complete
fig. There are a few I want to get my own hands on.

In normal times, we assume that LEGO intend them to be put together in a certain
way. That goes against the BL way of definitely go together rather than presumed
to go together. Plus what happens if for example a torso / head / headgear combo
comes out that could be used with any legs and none are obvious? Do all permutations
get added or none? Especially with human figures, the heads could be controversial.

The cases I'm talking about have the full minifigure assembled exactly like
a normal instruction book. eg. Pink valentine's elephant

Tyson.

I know. In normal times, those parts will not be sold combined. The point of
the BAM is that the customer chooses the parts. There are no instructions.
 Author: leopard37 View Messages Posted By leopard37
 Posted: Oct 13, 2020 22:28
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

I agree that the whole concept is to build the figure how you want. However there
are lots of unique complete figures that TLG has meant to be assembled together.
I think the suggestions from TLG should be able to be found and sold as a complete
fig. There are a few I want to get my own hands on.

In normal times, we assume that LEGO intend them to be put together in a certain
way. That goes against the BL way of definitely go together rather than presumed
to go together. Plus what happens if for example a torso / head / headgear combo
comes out that could be used with any legs and none are obvious? Do all permutations
get added or none? Especially with human figures, the heads could be controversial.

The cases I'm talking about have the full minifigure assembled exactly like
a normal instruction book. eg. Pink valentine's elephant

Tyson.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Oct 13, 2020 12:44
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots  Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.

Ah, good point. I guess in that case the option of making BAM a "set" and adding
all unique part/colour combinations in its inventory remains.

Why only unique parts? After all, parts can be found in multiple sets so if there
is one giant BAM set for all parts found in BAM, then it could contain all parts
that have been in BAM not just unique ones.

True.. from an inventory perspective that would make the most sense. I just thought
it would be a way to serve those who were looking for unique parts, but I guess
they could see that easily enough by navigating to the part entry and looking
at the number of set appearances. And that way they can just stay there without
having to be removed if they are no longer unique because of a new set.

I thought we are only talking about the unique BAM parts here because people
are especially interested in them and because they are currently "orphaned" parts,
i.e. it is not visible where they come from.
BAM stations have been there for more than ten years, so we would likely end
up with hundreds of different parts in a gigant "BAM set". This might be interesting
for some archiving purposes, but it would not be helpful for anyone who just
wants to find the latest unique parts. After all, the whole discussion about
BAM parts only started when those unique parts first appeared (about two years
ago). Before that time, BAM stations were just another way of single parts distribution,
similar to Pick a Brick walls or Pick a Brick online.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots  Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.

Ah, good point. I guess in that case the option of making BAM a "set" and adding
all unique part/colour combinations in its inventory remains.

Why only unique parts? After all, parts can be found in multiple sets so if there
is one giant BAM set for all parts found in BAM, then it could contain all parts
that have been in BAM not just unique ones.

True.. from an inventory perspective that would make the most sense. I just thought
it would be a way to serve those who were looking for unique parts, but I guess
they could see that easily enough by navigating to the part entry and looking
at the number of set appearances. And that way they can just stay there without
having to be removed if they are no longer unique because of a new set.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots  Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.

Ah, good point. I guess in that case the option of making BAM a "set" and adding
all unique part/colour combinations in its inventory remains.

Why only unique parts? After all, parts can be found in multiple sets so if there
is one giant BAM set for all parts found in BAM, then it could contain all parts
that have been in BAM not just unique ones.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots  Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.

Ah, good point. I guess in that case the option of making BAM a "set" and adding
all unique part/colour combinations in its inventory remains.
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

These elements have release dates, minifig parts and accessories for 3 minifigs
are released each quarter.

Here is good info another member shared:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/175722-bam-exclusive-parts-index/

I would suggest adding sets with an ID something like:

BaM2019Q3
BaM2019Q4
BaM2020Q1
BaM2020Q2
BaM2020Q3

And include all this ~15 parts to the inventory plus maybe

 
Gear No: 852766  Name: Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
* 
852766 Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
Gear: Storage: LEGO Brand Store

People also want the minifigs but I can't think of a way of adding them all
without guess work...

Also, if they are Sets the sellers can sell only 1 of the minifigures marking
the incomplete option, and with a custom photo/description like:

 
Part No: 3001special  Name: Brick 2 x 4 special (special bricks, test bricks and/or prototypes)
* 
3001special Brick 2 x 4 special (special bricks, test bricks and/or prototypes)
Parts: Brick
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That means I have to change some minifig listings to 'custom'.

Removing the itemnumber and checking the 'custom' box does not seem work?!

Oh it does work in the 'older version' but not in 'newer version'
of 'edit more' of the listing.

So yesterday I changed my inomplete minifig listings to cusom items (with custom
picture). And they were deleted anyway?! And of course without any notification.
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  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Yes!
As an AFOL that no longer has a LEGO store in my area, I would like for BrickLink
stores to be able to list complete BAM minifigures. Thanks!
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As others have already mentioned, I would prefer BAMF parts listed in the catalog,
but not whole minifigs. They don't have instructions or packaging showing
what an "official" complete BAMF would be, so I think parts only would be best.

David
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  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Unless the clamshells have individual barcodes or the individual figures have
barcodes I would be more inclined to see them listed as parts only even thou
that will orphan them. Thou I can see exceptions for advertised (by LEGO) for
figures that are preassembled.
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In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

I agree that the whole concept is to build the figure how you want. However there
are lots of unique complete figures that TLG has meant to be assembled together.
I think the suggestions from TLG should be able to be found and sold as a complete
fig. There are a few I want to get my own hands on.

In normal times, we assume that LEGO intend them to be put together in a certain
way. That goes against the BL way of definitely go together rather than presumed
to go together. Plus what happens if for example a torso / head / headgear combo
comes out that could be used with any legs and none are obvious? Do all permutations
get added or none? Especially with human figures, the heads could be controversial.
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  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots  Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Brown Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

Some parts do make up a single coherent minfig, though, that is a little bit
like a collectible minifig. I do think it'd be a nice thing to somehow keep
track of that in one form or another. There probably will be specific demand
for those. But of course there may be unclarity or disagreement about when this
is the case and when it's really just random parts...

I think that is the problem. Sometimes they make a coherent figure but other
times there might be guesses to what makes a figure. Plus in normal times they
are not sold as sets, so should they be catalogued as sets or even complete figs.
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

These elements have release dates, minifig parts and accessories for 3 minifigs
are released each quarter.

Here is good info another member shared:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/175722-bam-exclusive-parts-index/

I would suggest adding sets with an ID something like:

BaM2019Q3
BaM2019Q4
BaM2020Q1
BaM2020Q2
BaM2020Q3

And include all this ~15 parts to the inventory plus maybe

 
Gear No: 852766  Name: Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
* 
852766 Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
Gear: Storage: LEGO Brand Store

+1
I believe your idea is the most intuitive option, easy to implement and does
not need any site programming.

  People also want the minifigs but I can't think of a way of adding them all
without gess work...

Then let's only add those figures where it is obvious that the parts belong
together.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

I agree that the whole concept is to build the figure how you want. However there
are lots of unique complete figures that TLG has meant to be assembled together.
I think the suggestions from TLG should be able to be found and sold as a complete
fig. There are a few I want to get my own hands on.

Tyson
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

Some parts do make up a single coherent minfig, though, that is a little bit
like a collectible minifig. I do think it'd be a nice thing to somehow keep
track of that in one form or another. There probably will be specific demand
for those. But of course there may be unclarity or disagreement about when this
is the case and when it's really just random parts...
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, Gmid writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Alright, I'm taking the privilege to go first.

Would it be worth it to have a separate subcategory / tag for these kind of unique
parts? I have added quite a lot myself, and they are insanely hard to find as
seller, and possibly even harder to find as a buyer. It would be nice to just
browser through a BAM section to see those unique minifigure parts as inspiration.

I haven't participated in any category discussion at all, but are there options
to give parts a specific 'tag' to help the search? Most modern databases/archives
don't work with categories/subcategories anymore, but simply with tags assisted
by filtering.

I don't think the parts should have a category, there are some torsos that
were previously in a minifig elsewhere.

The problem of looking for the catalog entry when you have them is that as they
don't appear in any inventory, when you search starting in the color guide
part, these parts can't be located in any inventory appearing in XXXX color.

Yes, I agree categories are not the best tool to solve this. Then we could also
move all collectible minifig parts out of the minifig categories, but I prefer
all headgears to remain headgears whether they're from sets or BAM. It may
be nice to browse those rare parts, but IMO it would be better to browse the
full range of headgears without it being important what exactly was the source.
I think that's kind of the strength of the Bricklink concept in the first
place.
Moreover, if parts originally in BAM would make an appearance in regular sets,
they would need to be moved out of the category, which is not ideal.

I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

As for set appearance, how is "Build-A-Minifig" for a set, just a single set,
with a picture of a BAM station in a Lego store? And its inventory will be all
the (unique) parts that appeared there. I am just thinking out loud, don't
know if this is a good idea or not, it would require continuous set inventory
editing..
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

These elements have release dates, minifig parts and accessories for 3 minifigs
are released each quarter.

Here is good info another member shared:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/175722-bam-exclusive-parts-index/

I would suggest adding sets with an ID something like:

BaM2019Q3
BaM2019Q4
BaM2020Q1
BaM2020Q2
BaM2020Q3

And include all this ~15 parts to the inventory plus maybe

 
Gear No: 852766  Name: Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
* 
852766 Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
Gear: Storage: LEGO Brand Store

People also want the minifigs but I can't think of a way of adding them all
without gess work...

+1
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  Please tell me what a limb is or a holder and how those terms would be helpful
in identifying a LEGO element.

A limb is the part of a tree that comes off a trunk or branch that has leaves
on.

All my life I thought that this was a limb too:

 
Part No: 981  Name: Arm, Left
* 
981 Arm, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

 
Part No: 972  Name: Leg, Left
* 
972 Leg, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

Yes, “too.”

It’s the Ents: they made a mess of the words.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  Please tell me what a limb is or a holder and how those terms would be helpful
in identifying a LEGO element.

A limb is the part of a tree that comes off a trunk or branch that has leaves
on.

All my life I thought that this was a limb too:

 
Part No: 981  Name: Arm, Left
* 
981 Arm, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

 
Part No: 972  Name: Leg, Left
* 
972 Leg, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
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In Catalog, Gmid writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Alright, I'm taking the privilege to go first.

Would it be worth it to have a separate subcategory / tag for these kind of unique
parts? I have added quite a lot myself, and they are insanely hard to find as
seller, and possibly even harder to find as a buyer. It would be nice to just
browser through a BAM section to see those unique minifigure parts as inspiration.

I haven't participated in any category discussion at all, but are there options
to give parts a specific 'tag' to help the search? Most modern databases/archives
don't work with categories/subcategories anymore, but simply with tags assisted
by filtering.

I don't think the parts should have a category, there are some torsos that
were previously in a minifig elsewhere.

The problem of looking for the catalog entry when you have them is that as they
don't appear in any inventory, when you search starting in the color guide
part, these parts can't be located in any inventory appearing in XXXX color.
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  In Catalog, Abels_Bricks writes:
  Should the individual parts be added to the catalogue to allow inventories of
the items to be created.

Please submit a couple of these items to the catalog so that we can make a proper
determination.

Also created the smallest box as

bygglek03c01
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In Catalog, Gmid writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch
it just seems odd that they are now in slopes

I understand it's frustrating when you get used to something being in one
place and it's somewhere else. Defining categories with written definitions
is something new on BrickLink and did/will require moving some things around.
It's likely to be a work in progress for a while and we may make some missteps
along the way.

In this case, the curved slopes that are now curved slopes are curved slopes
and, even though it will take a little getting used to, I think we got that part
right. By the way, this has been a curved slope since it was added to the catalog
in 2005 and no one seems to mind:

 
Part No: 54095  Name: Slope, Curved 8 x 8 x 2 Double
* 
54095 Slope, Curved 8 x 8 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope, Curved



We mentioned the possibility of moving some parts in June:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1200979

We gave everyone the month of August to provide commentary on the proposed change
in this 150+ message thread:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1213696

We provided multiple reminders of the coming changes during September:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1221489

The parts were moved on October 1st and now it is October 12th.

As for the concern that these parts should be Brick, Arch: they came from the
Brick, Modified category and we weren't inundated with requests to move them
to Brick, Arch prior to them moving to Slope, Curved.

Understand that completely but a couple of things for you to coonsider

1. Not everyone is as into the technicalities of the catalog as you and your
colleagues are - nothing wrong with that but it does mean many of the threads
etc were only casually looked at.

2. We are noticing on orders we receive the changes that you have implemented
and it means we have to re-organise our storage system as our main filing elements
are colour and then category with part no being the final .

So for example the 6091 which I referred to and is referred to by TLG as Brick,
Arch was stored in our bricks modified section. The first order that came in
after 1 oct with that a a slope curved meant we went to the brick modified section
and took all the 6091's (Lots of them) and moved them to the various colour
sections as slopes curved.

We, like others will cope with the catalog changes cause that is what you have
done and we leave that to the cat techies. It simply seemed strange for that
part to be moved to slopes, curved when it clearly is not a slope, even according
to Lego

I know you're much bigger, and have had many more orders than I did, but
I do question your storage here. Genuinely curious, why do you rely on an arbitrary
category assigned by Bricklink in the 90's, over a location system, numbered
shelfs/drawers/whatever, added to the remark?

I would be very nervous leaving my parts somewhere in a black hole, trusting
myself when order picking to head to the right category/subcategory.

Interesting - we do use the remarks for location but our storage system may not
be what you think. We have a section for bulk items (lots of standard parts are
held in bulk) that is all drawers. The rest of the system is organizer trays
from Really Useful Products which in the first instance are broken down into
colour sections and then category withing colour. This has worked fine for us,
although we are always trying to improve it with more drawer units rather than
trays.

Our orders are printed to pdf in the order that suits our system - and that is
what the chaps in the picking department want to keep - personally I would opt
for changing it all to drawers but we would have to close for a while if we did
that and they are against it.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

These elements have release dates, minifig parts and accessories for 3 minifigs
are released each quarter.

Here is good info another member shared:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/175722-bam-exclusive-parts-index/

I would suggest adding sets with an ID something like:

BaM2019Q3
BaM2019Q4
BaM2020Q1
BaM2020Q2
BaM2020Q3

And include all this ~15 parts to the inventory plus maybe

 
Gear No: 852766  Name: Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
* 
852766 Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
Gear: Storage: LEGO Brand Store

People also want the minifigs but I can't think of a way of adding them all
without gess work...
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  Please tell me what a limb is or a holder and how those terms would be helpful
in identifying a LEGO element.

A limb is the part of a tree that comes off a trunk or branch that has leaves
on.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Alright, I'm taking the privilege to go first.

Would it be worth it to have a separate subcategory / tag for these kind of unique
parts? I have added quite a lot myself, and they are insanely hard to find as
seller, and possibly even harder to find as a buyer. It would be nice to just
browser through a BAM section to see those unique minifigure parts as inspiration.

I haven't participated in any category discussion at all, but are there options
to give parts a specific 'tag' to help the search? Most modern databases/archives
don't work with categories/subcategories anymore, but simply with tags assisted
by filtering.
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  In Catalog, Abels_Bricks writes:
  Should the individual parts be added to the catalogue to allow inventories of
the items to be created.

Please submit a couple of these items to the catalog so that we can make a proper
determination.

Parts of the small box added (with images) as Gear/Storage if you think they
should be parts let me know.

Part numbers
35014
35015
35016

regards
David
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In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch
it just seems odd that they are now in slopes

I understand it's frustrating when you get used to something being in one
place and it's somewhere else. Defining categories with written definitions
is something new on BrickLink and did/will require moving some things around.
It's likely to be a work in progress for a while and we may make some missteps
along the way.

In this case, the curved slopes that are now curved slopes are curved slopes
and, even though it will take a little getting used to, I think we got that part
right. By the way, this has been a curved slope since it was added to the catalog
in 2005 and no one seems to mind:

 
Part No: 54095  Name: Slope, Curved 8 x 8 x 2 Double
* 
54095 Slope, Curved 8 x 8 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope, Curved



We mentioned the possibility of moving some parts in June:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1200979

We gave everyone the month of August to provide commentary on the proposed change
in this 150+ message thread:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1213696

We provided multiple reminders of the coming changes during September:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1221489

The parts were moved on October 1st and now it is October 12th.

As for the concern that these parts should be Brick, Arch: they came from the
Brick, Modified category and we weren't inundated with requests to move them
to Brick, Arch prior to them moving to Slope, Curved.

Understand that completely but a couple of things for you to coonsider

1. Not everyone is as into the technicalities of the catalog as you and your
colleagues are - nothing wrong with that but it does mean many of the threads
etc were only casually looked at.

2. We are noticing on orders we receive the changes that you have implemented
and it means we have to re-organise our storage system as our main filing elements
are colour and then category with part no being the final .

So for example the 6091 which I referred to and is referred to by TLG as Brick,
Arch was stored in our bricks modified section. The first order that came in
after 1 oct with that a a slope curved meant we went to the brick modified section
and took all the 6091's (Lots of them) and moved them to the various colour
sections as slopes curved.

We, like others will cope with the catalog changes cause that is what you have
done and we leave that to the cat techies. It simply seemed strange for that
part to be moved to slopes, curved when it clearly is not a slope, even according
to Lego

I know you're much bigger, and have had many more orders than I did, but
I do question your storage here. Genuinely curious, why do you rely on an arbitrary
category assigned by Bricklink in the 90's, over a location system, numbered
shelfs/drawers/whatever, added to the remark?

I would be very nervous leaving my parts somewhere in a black hole, trusting
myself when order picking to head to the right category/subcategory.
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  
 
Part No: 6091  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
* 
6091 Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
Parts: Slope, Curved
being moved to slopes - surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch

What if the category was named Slope, round? Would that fit better all slope,
curved plus a couple more items?

Really not sure. TLG call slopes - roof tiles;

6091 is called Brick with Arvh - it just seems odd that they are now in slopes

You are long enough around here to know that TLG names are very vague and not
really helpful for people searching for certain bricks.
That's one of the reasons Bricklink was created.
 
Part No: 2423  Name: Plant Leaves 4 x 3
* 
2423 Plant Leaves 4 x 3
Parts: Plant
is called LIMB ELEMENT SMALL by TLG

 
Part No: 4085d  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip Thick (Vertical Grip)
* 
4085d Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip Thick (Vertical Grip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
is called: PLATE 1X1 W. HOLDER by TLG

Please tell me what a limb is or a holder and how those terms would be helpful
in identifying a LEGO element.

Personally I consider your post as not helpful at all. Please read the
posts (with extensive explanations) from catalogue admin Stormchaser.

I see no reason why the post was unhelpful. It simply asked for the reasons why
that was moved. How is that unhelpful
  
(and install a spell check plug-in to your browser or phone --- "arvh")

There is one that just got missed No one, including you , is perfect.
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Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.
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In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  
 
Part No: 6091  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
* 
6091 Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
Parts: Slope, Curved
being moved to slopes - surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch

What if the category was named Slope, round? Would that fit better all slope,
curved plus a couple more items?

Really not sure. TLG call slopes - roof tiles;

6091 is called Brick with Arvh - it just seems odd that they are now in slopes

You are long enough around here to know that TLG names are very vague and not
really helpful for people searching for certain bricks.
That's one of the reasons Bricklink was created.
 
Part No: 2423  Name: Plant Leaves 4 x 3
* 
2423 Plant Leaves 4 x 3
Parts: Plant
is called LIMB ELEMENT SMALL by TLG

 
Part No: 4085d  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip Thick (Vertical Grip)
* 
4085d Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip Thick (Vertical Grip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
is called: PLATE 1X1 W. HOLDER by TLG

Please tell me what a limb is or a holder and how those terms would be helpful
in identifying a LEGO element.

Personally I consider your post as not helpful at all. Please read the
posts (with extensive explanations) from catalogue admin Stormchaser.

(and install a spell check plug-in to your browser or phone --- "arvh")
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch
it just seems odd that they are now in slopes

I understand it's frustrating when you get used to something being in one
place and it's somewhere else. Defining categories with written definitions
is something new on BrickLink and did/will require moving some things around.
It's likely to be a work in progress for a while and we may make some missteps
along the way.

In this case, the curved slopes that are now curved slopes are curved slopes
and, even though it will take a little getting used to, I think we got that part
right. By the way, this has been a curved slope since it was added to the catalog
in 2005 and no one seems to mind:

 
Part No: 54095  Name: Slope, Curved 8 x 8 x 2 Double
* 
54095 Slope, Curved 8 x 8 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope, Curved



We mentioned the possibility of moving some parts in June:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1200979

We gave everyone the month of August to provide commentary on the proposed change
in this 150+ message thread:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1213696

We provided multiple reminders of the coming changes during September:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1221489

The parts were moved on October 1st and now it is October 12th.

As for the concern that these parts should be Brick, Arch: they came from the
Brick, Modified category and we weren't inundated with requests to move them
to Brick, Arch prior to them moving to Slope, Curved.

Understand that completely but a couple of things for you to coonsider

1. Not everyone is as into the technicalities of the catalog as you and your
colleagues are - nothing wrong with that but it does mean many of the threads
etc were only casually looked at.

2. We are noticing on orders we receive the changes that you have implemented
and it means we have to re-organise our storage system as our main filing elements
are colour and then category with part no being the final .

So for example the 6091 which I referred to and is referred to by TLG as Brick,
Arch was stored in our bricks modified section. The first order that came in
after 1 oct with that a a slope curved meant we went to the brick modified section
and took all the 6091's (Lots of them) and moved them to the various colour
sections as slopes curved.

We, like others will cope with the catalog changes cause that is what you have
done and we leave that to the cat techies. It simply seemed strange for that
part to be moved to slopes, curved when it clearly is not a slope, even according
to Lego
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In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch
it just seems odd that they are now in slopes

I understand it's frustrating when you get used to something being in one
place and it's somewhere else. Defining categories with written definitions
is something new on BrickLink and did/will require moving some things around.
It's likely to be a work in progress for a while and we may make some missteps
along the way.

In this case, the curved slopes that are now curved slopes are curved slopes
and, even though it will take a little getting used to, I think we got that part
right. By the way, this has been a curved slope since it was added to the catalog
in 2005 and no one seems to mind:

 
Part No: 54095  Name: Slope, Curved 8 x 8 x 2 Double
* 
54095 Slope, Curved 8 x 8 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope, Curved



We mentioned the possibility of moving some parts in June:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1200979

We gave everyone the month of August to provide commentary on the proposed change
in this 150+ message thread:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1213696

We provided multiple reminders of the coming changes during September:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1221489

The parts were moved on October 1st and now it is October 12th.

As for the concern that these parts should be Brick, Arch: they came from the
Brick, Modified category and we weren't inundated with requests to move them
to Brick, Arch prior to them moving to Slope, Curved.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  eductaional.

Was this word misspelled on purpose for the irony or merely because the author
didn't proofread? Who can say?

The author could.  But who’d believe them?
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  
 
Part No: 6091  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
* 
6091 Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
Parts: Slope, Curved
being moved to slopes - surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch

What if the category was named Slope, round? Would that fit better all slope,
curved plus a couple more items?

Really not sure. TLG call slopes - roof tiles;

6091 is called Brick with Arvh - it just seems odd that they are now in slopes
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  eductaional.

Was this word misspelled on purpose for the irony or merely because the author
didn't proofread? Who can say?
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  Brickset has a good write-up for them, showing what the parts are and also lists
the number IDs.

Thank you for that link. Very eductaional.

If members want the constituent parts of the boxes in the catalog, they'd
probably be approved as the Gear item type rather than the Parts item type.
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In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  
 
Part No: 6091  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
* 
6091 Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
Parts: Slope, Curved
being moved to slopes - surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch

What if the category was named Slope, round? Would that fit better all slope,
curved plus a couple more items?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Abels_Bricks writes:
  Should the individual parts be added to the catalogue to allow inventories of
the items to be created.

Please submit a couple of these items to the catalog so that we can make a proper
determination.

https://brickset.com/article/53695

Brickset has a good write-up for them, showing what the parts are and also lists
the number IDs.
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In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  
 
Part No: 6091  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
* 
6091 Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
Parts: Slope, Curved
being moved to slopes - surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch

Well, an arch is defined by a curved underside.

(But I do store mine near the arches )
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Part No: 6091  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
* 
6091 Slope, Curved 2 x 1 x 1 1/3 with Recessed Stud
Parts: Slope, Curved
being moved to slopes - surely this is more appropriate in Bricks, arch
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In Catalog, Abels_Bricks writes:
  Should the individual parts be added to the catalogue to allow inventories of
the items to be created.

Please submit a couple of these items to the catalog so that we can make a proper
determination.
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That means I have to change some minifig listings to 'custom'.

Removing the itemnumber and checking the 'custom' box does not seem work?!

Oh it does work in the 'older version' but not in 'newer version'
of 'edit more' of the listing.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  

  
  
Where can I find this rule about listing minifigures?

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102&q=incomplete

Incomplete Minifigs - All minifigs, both New and Used, must be listed
as Complete. Incomplete minifigs should be broken down and listed as parts, or
listed in the custom items section with a custom photo and clear description.


Thanks

That means I have to change some minifig listings to 'custom'.

Removing the itemnumber and checking the 'custom' box does not seem work?!
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It should remain possible to list an incomplete minfigure or animal figure. Of
course it should be clearly noted that the figure is incomplete.

It isn't allowed.

  Why would I have to list an elephant with one missing ear as separate parts or
'custom'? Custom is really not correct as it is a catalog entry, just
with a part missing.
Separate parts could be an alternative, but I as a seller prefer to sell figures
complete or almost complete.

Where can I find this rule about listing minifigures?

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102&q=incomplete

Incomplete Minifigs - All minifigs, both New and Used, must be listed
as Complete. Incomplete minifigs should be broken down and listed as parts, or
listed in the custom items section with a custom photo and clear description.
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These boxes are each made up to individual components each with a unique LEGO
part number.

Should the individual parts be added to the catalogue to allow inventories of
the items to be created.

Thanks
david
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In Catalog, BrickBuy writes:
  Similar to the "minifigs must be complete in order to list under minifig listing",
this should be extended to animals as well.

An elephant without ears should be listed as a custom item or broken down.
Likewise, a basilisk without teeth is not a basilisk, but a custom assembly of
part.

(discuss?)

Paul

I do not agree. At least not if we are talking about 'listing' as in
making shop inventory available to be sold.

It should remain possible to list an incomplete minfigure or animal figure. Of
course it should be clearly noted that the figure is incomplete.
Why would I have to list an elephant with one missing ear as separate parts or
'custom'? Custom is really not correct as it is a catalog entry, just
with a part missing.
Separate parts could be an alternative, but I as a seller prefer to sell figures
complete or almost complete.

Where can I find this rule about listing minifigures?
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In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  Shouldn't only one be regular and the other an alternate with both parts
having count 5?

I see that LEGO differenties the two parts in the instructions. Is this something
new?

/Jan

It seems that they differentiate these in the parts list. And the submitter of
the inventory confirmed that the variants were included in the set in the quantities
listed in the instructions. So we will leave the inventory as is. I believe there
is at least one other set where the same thing happened but I can't remember
which set it was.

This one:
 
Set No: 71705  Name: Destiny's Bounty
* 
71705-1 (Inv) Destiny's Bounty
1744 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: NINJAGO: Legacy: Rise of the Snakes
4x the old variant and 4x the new one in reddish brown in that set. The four
parts with groove came together in one bag and the four groovless parts came
in another bag.

It definitely looks like both variants are stored and treated within TLG's
inventory/storage system as if they were different parts. A bit strange indeed,
but at least we do not need to care about alternate parts in all those inventories
at the moment.
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In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
  […]
It seems that they differentiate these in the parts list. And the submitter of
the inventory confirmed that the variants were included in the set in the quantities
listed in the instructions. So we will leave the inventory as is. I believe there
is at least one other set where the same thing happened but I can't remember
which set it was.

This is different than for example 3794a and 3794b where Lego did not differentiate
them and the quantities of each variant in sets would vary.

They seem to never have been found as Alternates.
And now we have a set (or two) with both versions and LEGO diffentiates these
variants.
Does this mean that these won’t ever be Alternates for LEGO?  That LEGO will
never put one instead of the other?

Is there other Variants BL qualifies as variants but that have never been found
in the same set / for which LEGO never used one instead of the other?
Shouldn’t the catalogue have a note about that?
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In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  Shouldn't only one be regular and the other an alternate with both parts
having count 5?

I see that LEGO differenties the two parts in the instructions. Is this something
new?

/Jan

It seems that they differentiate these in the parts list. And the submitter of
the inventory confirmed that the variants were included in the set in the quantities
listed in the instructions. So we will leave the inventory as is. I believe there
is at least one other set where the same thing happened but I can't remember
which set it was.

This is different than for example 3794a and 3794b where Lego did not differentiate
them and the quantities of each variant in sets would vary.
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  Shouldn't only one be regular and the other an alternate with both parts
having count 5?

I see that LEGO differenties the two parts in the instructions. Is this something
new?

/Jan
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How come parts
 
Part No: 41740  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
* 
41740 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified {Dark Tan}
and
 
Part No: 92593  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs without Groove
* 
92593 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs without Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified {Dark Tan}
both occur as regulars in the inventory
for set
 
Set No: 70430  Name: Newbury Subway
* 
70430-1 (Inv) Newbury Subway
336 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2020
Sets: Hidden Side
?

Shouldn't only one be regular and the other an alternate with both parts
having count 5?

/Jan
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In Catalog, OtterFlosser writes:
  I've just listed this set for sale and am a little confused with the inventory...

In the instruction booklet it lists 4x 4593679 (1x2x2 Panel), in the Bricklink
catalogue there is only 2.

The build itself only uses 2, so the Bricklink catalogue is right. But no according
to the instructions.

I'm sure this isn't a one off discrepancy, but none the less, curious.

Martin
OtterBricks

There are sometimes mistakes in the parts list. I have added an inventory note
for this set.
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I've just listed this set for sale and am a little confused with the inventory...

In the instruction booklet it lists 4x 4593679 (1x2x2 Panel), in the Bricklink
catalogue there is only 2.

The build itself only uses 2, so the Bricklink catalogue is right. But no according
to the instructions.

I'm sure this isn't a one off discrepancy, but none the less, curious.

Martin
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 Posted: Oct 10, 2020 07:25
 Subject: Re: Q. lego games in the catalog?
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In Catalog, tdajos writes:
  some time ago lego came out with some games and a rubber die like wild wool,
shave a sheep 3845, i cannot find them in the catalog. if some on could post
a way to find them i will be greatful.

thanks!

Games are in Gears:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=G&catString=252
 Author: tdajos View Messages Posted By tdajos
 Posted: Oct 10, 2020 07:18
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some time ago lego came out with some games and a rubber die like wild wool,
shave a sheep 3845, i cannot find them in the catalog. if some on could post
a way to find them i will be greatful.

thanks!
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 10, 2020 00:36
 Subject: Re: Dilo03 picture is the wrong color
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In Catalog, Cob writes:
  Can we submit new pictures for this item or are only official LEGO pictures being
used for parts?

The catalog has many member images and more are regularly added. Renders are
preferred for individual parts, at least by the site itself, but this dinosaur
is an assembly.

Put differently, you can submit a picture for anything you want and good-quality
images will likely be approved.
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: Oct 9, 2020 23:41
 Subject: Dilo03 picture is the wrong color
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Dilo03 picture appears to be lime
 
Part No: dilo03  Name: Dinosaur Dilophosaurus Second Version with Flexible Rubber Tail, Dark Red and Medium Nougat Markings
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Dilo03 (Inv) Dinosaur Dilophosaurus Second Version with Flexible Rubber Tail, Dark Red and Medium Nougat Markings
Parts: Animal, Dinosaur

But the actual figure is olive as shown in the set
 
Set No: 75934  Name: Dilophosaurus on the Loose
* 
75934-1 (Inv) Dilophosaurus on the Loose
155 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Jurassic World: Legend of Isla Nublar

Can we submit new pictures for this item or are only official LEGO pictures being
used for parts?
 Author: herb66 View Messages Posted By herb66
 Posted: Oct 9, 2020 22:30
 Subject: brick mod 67810 should be in slope curved
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The new 67810 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 x 1 1/3 with Curved Top is in bricks modified,
where as its older brother 6091 is in curved slope, this doesn't make any
sense.
cheers, Herb
 Author: BrickBros20 View Messages Posted By BrickBros20
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 18:57
 Subject: Re: Lock the Price of a Single Lot Question?
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers

Put something in the remarks like nosale. Put everything on sale, then immediately
set sale to 0% off for any item with nosale in the remarks.

For some reason, I cant seem to get that to work. How exactly do you change that.
Just in case im doing it wrong

Are you using the box that is something like change only parts that have nosale
somewhere in the remarks.

I added NOSALE to one of our items, along with its location in our drawers, and
set the sale to 10% off. When I click the submit changes button, it doesnt make
any change to the price.

In the second image (lower section), in the first drop down list, select "update
my whole inventory".

That worked! Thank you for the help!
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 18:47
 Subject: Re: Lock the Price of a Single Lot Question?
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In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers

Put something in the remarks like nosale. Put everything on sale, then immediately
set sale to 0% off for any item with nosale in the remarks.

For some reason, I cant seem to get that to work. How exactly do you change that.
Just in case im doing it wrong

Are you using the box that is something like change only parts that have nosale
somewhere in the remarks.

I added NOSALE to one of our items, along with its location in our drawers, and
set the sale to 10% off. When I click the submit changes button, it doesnt make
any change to the price.

In the second image (lower section), in the first drop down list, select "update
my whole inventory".
 Author: BrickBros20 View Messages Posted By BrickBros20
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 17:16
 Subject: Re: Lock the Price of a Single Lot Question?
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers

Put something in the remarks like nosale. Put everything on sale, then immediately
set sale to 0% off for any item with nosale in the remarks.

For some reason, I cant seem to get that to work. How exactly do you change that.
Just in case im doing it wrong

Are you using the box that is something like change only parts that have nosale
somewhere in the remarks.

I added NOSALE to one of our items, along with its location in our drawers, and
set the sale to 10% off. When I click the submit changes button, it doesnt make
any change to the price.
 


 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 17:09
 Subject: Re: Lock the Price of a Single Lot Question?
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In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers

Put something in the remarks like nosale. Put everything on sale, then immediately
set sale to 0% off for any item with nosale in the remarks.

For some reason, I cant seem to get that to work. How exactly do you change that.
Just in case im doing it wrong

Are you using the box that is something like change only parts that have nosale
somewhere in the remarks.
 Author: BrickBros20 View Messages Posted By BrickBros20
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 17:06
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers

Put something in the remarks like nosale. Put everything on sale, then immediately
set sale to 0% off for any item with nosale in the remarks.

For some reason, I cant seem to get that to work. How exactly do you change that.
Just in case im doing it wrong
 Author: BrickBros20 View Messages Posted By BrickBros20
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 16:47
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers


  
Put something in the remarks like nosale. Put everything on sale, then immediately
set sale to 0% off for any item with nosale in the remarks.

Thats a great idea. We'll do that for now. Thank you!
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 16:42
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In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers

Put something in the remarks like nosale. Put everything on sale, then immediately
set sale to 0% off for any item with nosale in the remarks.
 Author: superchicken77 View Messages Posted By superchicken77
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 16:27
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So maybe a checkbox that can be selected that would be in the same area as Retain,
Stockroom and Delete. One that's named "No Discount" which when selected,
ensures the item is exempt from being on sale.

I'd like that as well.

In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
  Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers
 Author: BrickBros20 View Messages Posted By BrickBros20
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 16:07
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Hi all!

We are always adding parts to our store, and currently have a sale going on almost
all parts.

However, there are a few specific items that we don't want out sale to apply
for (Sets, minifigures, and some hard to find parts). After each session of adding
parts, we have to go through and check all of the category boxes, and then uncheck
the sets and minifigures. But for parts, they are usually in one of the categories
that get checked, and put on sale. Because of this, we then have to go and manually
remove the sale for that item, along with the rest of the parts that we don't
want on sale.

Is there someway to avoid the hassle of changing them back manually? Maybe some
way to lock the price, or make it so that the sales never apply to it?

Thanks!
~Brick Brothers
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 11:44
 Subject: Re: Gold brick
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In Catalog, PaulOfBricks writes:
  great thanks I have found a bag full to add

In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, PaulOfBricks writes:
  Cant find this in the catelog

Here:

 
Gear No: goldbrick  Name: 14 Karat Gold Brick
* 
goldbrick 14 Karat Gold Brick
Gear: Decoration

There's no way you found a bag full of those. The item Stellar posted is
made of actual gold metal, not just gold colored.

Perhaps you have
 
Part No: 3001  Name: Brick 2 x 4
* 
3001 Brick 2 x 4
Parts: Brick {Chrome Gold}

or
 
Part No: 3001  Name: Brick 2 x 4
* 
3001 Brick 2 x 4
Parts: Brick {Metallic Gold}

David
 Author: Jabbz View Messages Posted By Jabbz
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 06:51
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In Catalog, Jabbz writes:
  Someone please help me add these items to the catalog I have no idea how to!

Or if they are in the catalog please share!!

Just found the head
 Author: Jabbz View Messages Posted By Jabbz
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 06:46
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Someone please help me add these items to the catalog I have no idea how to!

Or if they are in the catalog please share!!
 


 Author: PaulOfBricks View Messages Posted By PaulOfBricks
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 06:22
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great thanks I have found a bag full to add

In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, PaulOfBricks writes:
  Cant find this in the catelog

Here:

 
Gear No: goldbrick  Name: 14 Karat Gold Brick
* 
goldbrick 14 Karat Gold Brick
Gear: Decoration
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 05:57
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In Catalog, PaulOfBricks writes:
  Cant find this in the catelog

Here:

 
Gear No: goldbrick  Name: 14 Karat Gold Brick
* 
goldbrick 14 Karat Gold Brick
Gear: Decoration
 Author: PaulOfBricks View Messages Posted By PaulOfBricks
 Posted: Oct 6, 2020 05:50
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Cant find this in the catelog
 
 Author: Emporiosa View Messages Posted By Emporiosa
 Posted: Oct 5, 2020 16:37
 Subject: Re: Please approve set 40426 Christmas Wreath
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, Emporiosa writes:
  The catalogue entry was created on Sept 17th but has a note that it is released
October 1st. May it please be approved so I may submit inventory? Thank-you!

 
Set No: 40426  Name: Christmas Wreath 2-in-1
* 
40426-1 (Inv) Christmas Wreath 2-in-1
510 Parts, 2020
Sets: Holiday & Event: Christmas

Thanks Russell!
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 Posted: Oct 5, 2020 16:32
 Subject: Re: Please approve set 40426 Christmas Wreath
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In Catalog, Emporiosa writes:
  The catalogue entry was created on Sept 17th but has a note that it is released
October 1st. May it please be approved so I may submit inventory? Thank-you!

 
Set No: 40426  Name: Christmas Wreath 2-in-1
* 
40426-1 (Inv) Christmas Wreath 2-in-1
510 Parts, 2020
Sets: Holiday & Event: Christmas
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 Posted: Oct 5, 2020 15:11
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The catalogue entry was created on Sept 17th but has a note that it is released
October 1st. May it please be approved so I may submit inventory? Thank-you!
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Oct 5, 2020 13:35
 Subject: Re: automatiek different colour?
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See https://www.flickr.com/photos/68072414%40N03/15480769489/
 Author: Willeme View Messages Posted By Willeme
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In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  In Catalog, Willeme writes:
  Hello,
I got a text brick with automatiek on it. Usually not a rare brick and there
is an entry for stones with black text. But this one is red and I cannot find
it in the catalogue. The text looks decent, and to me doesn't look like a
fake or a paintjob. It is an old type brick, without the logo on the studs. Is
this brick known, and is there a separate catalogue entry for it? Are there any
other colours known for the text automatiek? Can you help me with these questions?

Many of these vintage parts come with text in different colors, and I have added
more than one of these vintage, printed parts that was missing in the catalogue.

I see no reason to think it's fake. Maybe the logo is inside the brick? Some
have.

/Jan

Hi Jan,
Thank you. Yes, indeed the logo is on the bottom. Between the two supports.

Willem
 Author: gunga View Messages Posted By gunga
 Posted: Oct 5, 2020 02:26
 Subject: Unlisted color variations in 2345 and 4444
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While sorting through an older bunch of pieces, I came across several 2345pb05
and 4444p02. The catalog mentions that the light gray version has dark gray
stones and the light bluish gray has dark bluish gray stones. I seem to have
hybrids of each - light gray panel with dark bluish gray stones. The latest
set that has 2345pb05 is 10039 issued in 2002, a year before the bluish grays
appear. But the latest set that has 4444p02 was issued in 1990, 13(!) years
before the bluish grays. Any ideas in this mystery?

For color reference, the plates are dark bluish gray, dark gray, and light bluish
gray.
 
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
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In Catalog, Willeme writes:
  Hello,
I got a text brick with automatiek on it. Usually not a rare brick and there
is an entry for stones with black text. But this one is red and I cannot find
it in the catalogue. The text looks decent, and to me doesn't look like a
fake or a paintjob. It is an old type brick, without the logo on the studs. Is
this brick known, and is there a separate catalogue entry for it? Are there any
other colours known for the text automatiek? Can you help me with these questions?

Many of these vintage parts come with text in different colors, and I have added
more than one of these vintage, printed parts that was missing in the catalogue.

I see no reason to think it's fake. Maybe the logo is inside the brick? Some
have.

/Jan
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Hello,
I got a text brick with automatiek on it. Usually not a rare brick and there
is an entry for stones with black text. But this one is red and I cannot find
it in the catalogue. The text looks decent, and to me doesn't look like a
fake or a paintjob. It is an old type brick, without the logo on the studs. Is
this brick known, and is there a separate catalogue entry for it? Are there any
other colours known for the text automatiek? Can you help me with these questions?
Thank you,

Willem
 


 Author: HTownBricks View Messages Posted By HTownBricks
 Posted: Oct 3, 2020 14:43
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I'm not trying to start a crusade, and it really doesn't matter to me
on a personal level. This has no effect on my storage system or my ability to
add/remove parts from my store. What you perceive to be status quo bias and
inexperience is nothing more than objectivity.

I would argue that anyone's opinion, if obtained through this forum, should
be valued less (including my own). The mere fact that we know enough about the
parts to hold a discussion about categorical nuances means that we are not objective
in our opinions.

The opinions that matter are the end user of the interface. The buyers. Can
an individual with no knowledge of part nomenclature, part history (previous
usage or mold variation), find the parts they are looking for?

Because if they can't, they will go elsewhere to get them. And that's
a lose-lose for everyone here.

I wish you luck. No hard feelings. Feel free to reach out to me should you
choose. I'm putting my nose back to the grindstone.

H-Town Bricks
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Oct 3, 2020 14:17
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  We'd be interested in hearing feedback on the project if anyone would like
to share it.

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts. Here are responses to most of them:

To those who feel like Slope, Curved makes less sense now:

All of our opinions on curved slopes vs. modified bricks were influenced to varying
degrees by BrickLink itself and the way the site divided these up in the past.
It may be a little strange for a while, but in the end I think we'll all
find it more intuitive to have curved parts used for the same purpose in one
place.

And if you want to get technical, what is a slope or a curved slope in actuality?
Aren't they all just modified bricks and plates at some level? For instance,
this one was recently moved from Brick, Modified to Slope, Curved:

 
Part No: 6191  Name: Slope, Curved 1 x 4 x 1 1/3
* 
6191 Slope, Curved 1 x 4 x 1 1/3
Parts: Slope, Curved

But this one was always in Slope, Curved since it was added to the catalog in
'07:

 
Part No: 61068  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 4 x 2/3 without Bottom Tubes
* 
61068 Slope, Curved 2 x 4 x 2/3 without Bottom Tubes
Parts: Slope, Curved

If we use the logic that the first piece is a modified brick, then surely the
second piece is a modified plate. So if we follow the logic that has been used
in the past to its conclusion, we should eliminate all the slope categories and
just have modified bricks and plates.

I don't think anyone wants that and separating some slopes from others really
doesn't make much sense. That's fixed now, although we have more parts
yet to move when we do this again. Someone suggested the terms Brick, Curved
instead of Slope, Curved, but then we get into the same situation we were in
because we have to decide if an item is Brick, Curved or Plate, Curved.

By the way, the Wedge category probably needs some work also to get some of the
slopes and curved slopes therein closer to the other sloping parts:

 
Part No: 29120  Name: Wedge 2 x 1 x 2/3 Left
* 
29120 Wedge 2 x 1 x 2/3 Left
Parts: Wedge
 
Part No: 13548  Name: Wedge 2 x 2 (Slope 45 Corner)
* 
13548 Wedge 2 x 2 (Slope 45 Corner)
Parts: Wedge

To Give.Me.A.Brick:

Right now we'll give the recent changes time to settle in. But yes, I think
we'll do this again. BrickLink never attempted to define categories in writing
before and that recent change will make a difference in what belongs where.

To Teup on moving Part 3176:

Ideally the written category definitions would have been perfect from the start
and everything in the catalog would have been rearranged at once to match them.
In the real world, though, we have to go slowly and be willing to make mistakes
and corrections along the way. Yes, Part 3176 could be moved right now (as could
quite a few others). I think it would be better to wait until the next time
we move a bunch of things again and move them as a group. That seemed to work
pretty well.

To dearlydeparted on the cannon base:

The non-shooting cannon was a modification of the shooting cannon. The base
was originally intended for cannons that shoot projectiles. And moving the base
from Minifigure, Weapon to Projectile Launcher made sense because it definitely
is not a weapon - only a base for one. The category definitions:

Minifigure, Weapon - For items such as swords intended for minifigure
use as offensive weapons. Some may also be used by micro and mini dolls.


Projectile Launcher - For any item that serves the primary function
of launching a projectile, including accessories such as projectiles.


The cannon base is an accessory to a projectile launcher (and, technically, to
the non-shooting cannon as well). If there's a better category for the cannon
base, please share it.

To HTownBricks:

Yes, many items still need to be moved. Again, it would probably be better to
move groups of them at one time. And I'm sorry to hear that you feel these
item movements are folly and demonstrate a lack of common sense. From what I've
read from other members your opinion isn't the majority opinion, but that
doesn't mean it isn't taken seriously.

You mention that the Antenna, Small Base with Lever is not an antenna, but a
lever. This part has been used in a number of ways, including both as an antenna
and a lever. We could examine its use in every set and count the number of times
it was used in each specific way, but that seems like overkill. The truth is
that a single part category (Lever) existed solely for the purpose of this one
part. This makes sense in some cases, but here we didn't believe it was
necessary to have a category used for only one part.

You say we've made it more difficult to find this part, but what about the
people who think of it as an antenna? For them we've made it easier. There
are always trade-offs in a hierarchical system of organization and we made one
here after considering the totality of the circumstances.

In the case of the lever you say the title should describe the element. The
word "lever" was retained in the titles for these parts. It's just not the
first word in the title anymore, having been replaced by "antenna."

One other thing to consider is that future generations inherit the traditions
of past generations without, in many cases, questioning them. You joined BrickLink
just four years ago and you thought this part was a lever (at least to some degree)
because BrickLink said it was. But surely you can think of numerous instances
where the part was used in official sets as an antenna.

Our end goal is that the BrickLink catalog and the way it's organized make
more sense, not less. Site Founder Dan Jezek continually tweaked the catalog
while he was alive. For instance, he removed these categories (only a partial
list):

Baseplate, Platform
Bionicle, Krana Mask
Bionicle, Kraata
Brick, Classic
Brick, Classic Decorated
Brick, Facet
Brick, Octagonal
Brush
Cowpack
Duplo, Doll
Duplo, Farm
For Girls
Gate
Grab
Enviro Model
Exhaust
Hat
Heavy Equipment
Homemaker, Furniture
Homemaker, Room Setting
Jack
Minifig, Plume
Minifig, Visor
Mini Wheel Model Maker
Panel, Sloped
Plant, Flower
Play House
Rack
Stretcher
T-Shirt
Train, Door
Vehicle, Tipper
Vehicle, Tractor
Vehicle, Trailer
Wedge, Brick

Again, he made many more changes than those, including many changes in category
names. His intention was unquestionably that the catalog be a continually-evolving
organism. Continual catalog innovation died, to some degree, when he did.

We're trying to return to Dan's vision of a catalog that continually
evolves toward an ever-more-perfect beast and we appreciate your patience with
us as we try.

Thanks for the feedback totally agree it is better to move things as part
of a larger project, and it would be great to keep that cool-down month as a
standard part of the procedure. In fact, it would have been nice if the movement
of Glass was part of this project, although I guess at the time it wasn't
planned yet. Moving it to the end of the alphabet caused me a bit of running
up and down stairs for a few weeks. Then again, some exercise is always good


Still think roundedness (a quarter circle) and curved sloping faces are totally
different things. In fact, the catalog already acknowledges roundedness when
it is in the horizontal dimensions (Brick,Round) as something different than
sloping or curving sides (Wedge).
However, in the end logic is not the goal, intuitiveness is, and logic can be
part of that. Apparently for most users having both types mixed together in one
category is what they expect to find, then that's how we should do it, so
I'm OK with it now. And after all I haven't been a builder for many years,
so I can't really judge what's useful and what isn't.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  […]
One other thing to consider is that future generations inherit the traditions
of past generations without, in many cases, questioning them.

Or, worse, inventing reasons:

A young parent is cooking a roast in front of their child.  They cut and remove
the first slice before putting the raw meat in the dish.
The child asks: “Why are you cutting and removing the first slice?”
Parent: “It’s how my mother did it.  It’s so the meat makes more juice and doesn’t
dry.”
Child: “Are you sure?  Because if the blood is let go, the meat dries quicker.”
Parent: “Well, Grandma is coming, we’ll ask her.”
When the grandma is there, they talk about the recipe:
Parent: “Ma, for the roast, you cut and remove the first slice so that it makes
more juice and doesn’t dry, don’t you?”
Young grandma: “Er, yes… maybe… that’s how my mother did.  That’s what I assumed.”
Parent: “But that’s what you told me once!  She never told you why?  You never
asked?”
Young grandma: “Well, er, no.  But it’s logical, isn’t it?”
Child: “Grandma, if you let the blood go and dry in the dish, how can the meat
be juicer?”
Parent: “Well, we’ll ask her Sunday when we go see her!”
Sunday, all the family goes see the great-grandma.  Eventually, they talk about
the recipe and the same discussion ensues:
Young grandma: “But you did cut and remove the first slice so the roast was juicer,
didn’t you?”
Great-grandma: “Phaw! Absolutely not! It’s just the dish that was too short!”
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
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There are many sets that cannot be narrowed down to just one film.

In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
  Why are the original trilogy sets combined?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  We'd be interested in hearing feedback on the project if anyone would like
to share it.

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts. Here are responses to most of them:

To those who feel like Slope, Curved makes less sense now:

All of our opinions on curved slopes vs. modified bricks were influenced to varying
degrees by BrickLink itself and the way the site divided these up in the past.
It may be a little strange for a while, but in the end I think we'll all
find it more intuitive to have curved parts used for the same purpose in one
place.

And if you want to get technical, what is a slope or a curved slope in actuality?
Aren't they all just modified bricks and plates at some level? For instance,
this one was recently moved from Brick, Modified to Slope, Curved:

 
Part No: 6191  Name: Slope, Curved 1 x 4 x 1 1/3
* 
6191 Slope, Curved 1 x 4 x 1 1/3
Parts: Slope, Curved

But this one was always in Slope, Curved since it was added to the catalog in
'07:

 
Part No: 61068  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 4 x 2/3 without Bottom Tubes
* 
61068 Slope, Curved 2 x 4 x 2/3 without Bottom Tubes
Parts: Slope, Curved

If we use the logic that the first piece is a modified brick, then surely the
second piece is a modified plate. So if we follow the logic that has been used
in the past to its conclusion, we should eliminate all the slope categories and
just have modified bricks and plates.

I don't think anyone wants that and separating some slopes from others really
doesn't make much sense. That's fixed now, although we have more parts
yet to move when we do this again. Someone suggested the terms Brick, Curved
instead of Slope, Curved, but then we get into the same situation we were in
because we have to decide if an item is Brick, Curved or Plate, Curved.

By the way, the Wedge category probably needs some work also to get some of the
slopes and curved slopes therein closer to the other sloping parts:

 
Part No: 29120  Name: Wedge 2 x 1 x 2/3 Left
* 
29120 Wedge 2 x 1 x 2/3 Left
Parts: Wedge
 
Part No: 13548  Name: Wedge 2 x 2 (Slope 45 Corner)
* 
13548 Wedge 2 x 2 (Slope 45 Corner)
Parts: Wedge

To Give.Me.A.Brick:

Right now we'll give the recent changes time to settle in. But yes, I think
we'll do this again. BrickLink never attempted to define categories in writing
before and that recent change will make a difference in what belongs where.

To Teup on moving Part 3176:

Ideally the written category definitions would have been perfect from the start
and everything in the catalog would have been rearranged at once to match them.
In the real world, though, we have to go slowly and be willing to make mistakes
and corrections along the way. Yes, Part 3176 could be moved right now (as could
quite a few others). I think it would be better to wait until the next time
we move a bunch of things again and move them as a group. That seemed to work
pretty well.

To dearlydeparted on the cannon base:

The non-shooting cannon was a modification of the shooting cannon. The base
was originally intended for cannons that shoot projectiles. And moving the base
from Minifigure, Weapon to Projectile Launcher made sense because it definitely
is not a weapon - only a base for one. The category definitions:

Minifigure, Weapon - For items such as swords intended for minifigure
use as offensive weapons. Some may also be used by micro and mini dolls.


Projectile Launcher - For any item that serves the primary function
of launching a projectile, including accessories such as projectiles.


The cannon base is an accessory to a projectile launcher (and, technically, to
the non-shooting cannon as well). If there's a better category for the cannon
base, please share it.

To HTownBricks:

Yes, many items still need to be moved. Again, it would probably be better to
move groups of them at one time. And I'm sorry to hear that you feel these
item movements are folly and demonstrate a lack of common sense. From what I've
read from other members your opinion isn't the majority opinion, but that
doesn't mean it isn't taken seriously.

You mention that the Antenna, Small Base with Lever is not an antenna, but a
lever. This part has been used in a number of ways, including both as an antenna
and a lever. We could examine its use in every set and count the number of times
it was used in each specific way, but that seems like overkill. The truth is
that a single part category (Lever) existed solely for the purpose of this one
part. This makes sense in some cases, but here we didn't believe it was
necessary to have a category used for only one part.

You say we've made it more difficult to find this part, but what about the
people who think of it as an antenna? For them we've made it easier. There
are always trade-offs in a hierarchical system of organization and we made one
here after considering the totality of the circumstances.

In the case of the lever you say the title should describe the element. The
word "lever" was retained in the titles for these parts. It's just not the
first word in the title anymore, having been replaced by "antenna."

One other thing to consider is that future generations inherit the traditions
of past generations without, in many cases, questioning them. You joined BrickLink
just four years ago and you thought this part was a lever (at least to some degree)
because BrickLink said it was. But surely you can think of numerous instances
where the part was used in official sets as an antenna.

Our end goal is that the BrickLink catalog and the way it's organized make
more sense, not less. Site Founder Dan Jezek continually tweaked the catalog
while he was alive. For instance, he removed these categories (only a partial
list):

Baseplate, Platform
Bionicle, Krana Mask
Bionicle, Kraata
Brick, Classic
Brick, Classic Decorated
Brick, Facet
Brick, Octagonal
Brush
Cowpack
Duplo, Doll
Duplo, Farm
For Girls
Gate
Grab
Enviro Model
Exhaust
Hat
Heavy Equipment
Homemaker, Furniture
Homemaker, Room Setting
Jack
Minifig, Plume
Minifig, Visor
Mini Wheel Model Maker
Panel, Sloped
Plant, Flower
Play House
Rack
Stretcher
T-Shirt
Train, Door
Vehicle, Tipper
Vehicle, Tractor
Vehicle, Trailer
Wedge, Brick

Again, he made many more changes than those, including many changes in category
names. His intention was unquestionably that the catalog be a continually-evolving
organism. Continual catalog innovation died, to some degree, when he did.

We're trying to return to Dan's vision of a catalog that continually
evolves toward an ever-more-perfect beast and we appreciate your patience with
us as we try.
 Author: James2506 View Messages Posted By James2506
 Posted: Oct 3, 2020 10:58
 Subject: Re: Please approve star wars minifigs sw1133/4
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I find this with Superheroes too! Admin provide decent enough rationale for
each fig I query but the whole thing is nuts. I'd just give every fig
or inanimate object that is "like a figure" a number. WOuld also apply to face
variants and also do away with a/b/c/d variants. Sh016 is my worst nightmare.


In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  Ok, thanks for the update.
I must admit the whole SW minifig database has gotten a little silly with it’s
rules on what is classed as a minifig & it certainly does need tidying up in
my opinion.
But a daunting task lies ahead should you decide to issue new guidelines!

In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
  These two SW minifigs have been pending for several weeks, please can they be
approved?

We are discussing and writing new figure guidelines. One of the discussion points
is whether inanimate objects such as snowmen, scarecrows, statues, figureheads,
etc. of sets should have ever been considered figures and/or should have catalog
entries moving forward. That is why these are being held up.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Oct 3, 2020 07:02
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In Catalog, sonnich writes:
  Looking at eg 10659 which comes in a suitcase the why is it not listed?
I would like to buy a few and to know what sizes are available

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=10659-1&name=Vehicle%20Suitcase%20-%20Blue&category=%5BCreator%5D%5BBasic%20Set%5D#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}

This is the item without the box art:

 
Gear No: 759528c02  Name: Storage Case with Rounded Corners and Dark Azure Lid, Yellow Latches
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759528c02 Storage Case with Rounded Corners and Dark Azure Lid, Yellow Latches
Gear: Storage

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