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 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 16:38
 Subject: Re: Hose, Rigid 3mm D. length difference
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  I just went through over 200 used and new parts from the category Hose, Rigid
3mm D. (75c03 up to 75c28), and I measured all of them with a ruler. I found
that, for both unconfirmed used hoses and confirmed new ones from sealed sets,
the actual length of the hoses in millimeters were shorter than the lengths listed
in the titles. Nearly every single hose was 0.2 to 0.3 millimeters shorter than
the "official" lengths listed on Bricklink. I confirmed this with other rulers.

Can anyone else confirm this? And if it's normal, perhaps the millimeter
lengths in the titles should be adjusted downward by 0.2mm to be more accurate,
or else changed to be a range, since the hoses often have minor length differences.

I'm sorry, those numbers should read either "2 to 3 millimeters" or "0.2
to 0.3 centimeters." My bad.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 16:36
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I just went through over 200 used and new parts from the category Hose, Rigid
3mm D. (75c03 up to 75c28), and I measured all of them with a ruler. I found
that, for both unconfirmed used hoses and confirmed new ones from sealed sets,
the actual length of the hoses in millimeters were shorter than the lengths listed
in the titles. Nearly every single hose was 0.2 to 0.3 millimeters shorter than
the "official" lengths listed on Bricklink. I confirmed this with other rulers.

Can anyone else confirm this? And if it's normal, perhaps the millimeter
lengths in the titles should be adjusted downward by 0.2mm to be more accurate,
or else changed to be a range, since the hoses often have minor length differences.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 12:19
 Subject: Re: Key chain 853992
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  I just noticed this key chain in the catalog.
The current name is " 2 x 4 Brick - Satin Black Key Chain".
Should that not be "2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain"?
Or am I mistaken here?

 
Gear No: 853992  Name: 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
* 
853992 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
Gear: Key Chain

To be honest, I have no idea.
When submitting the new key chains, I just tried to follow what was said here:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=265187&nID=1186400

There isn't any other part in Satin Black in the catalog yet and I don't
own that Chrome Black Darth Vader to compare the colors.

The interesting thing about that post is that those are actually NOT what I would
consider to be in the same category as the new Satin colors. I know I said that
at the time, but since then, I have acquired that hair piece, and I would actually
describe that as Opal, not Satin, because of the iridescent qualities. The whole
spectrum of color can be seen as the surface is turned, whereas with the satin
colors, it is merely a shift.
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 09:30
 Subject: Re: Chrome silver Roborider wheels
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In Searching, Schredder writes:
  Hi all,

yesterday i recovered my roborider wheel collection from early this century and
decided to sell it.

In the meantime i know about the metallic gold ones (from e. g. promo pack 800010,
see also my store).

What i am still interested in are 2 chrome silver chainsaw wheels (part 32362).

Does anyone know, if these were official parts or just a misprint?
They do not look like some just painted a normal one.

Best regards,
Manfred

There was a shop who would chrome parts, maybe it is a custom chrome job.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 08:34
 Subject: Re: Key chain 853992
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  I just noticed this key chain in the catalog.
The current name is " 2 x 4 Brick - Satin Black Key Chain".
Should that not be "2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain"?
Or am I mistaken here?

 
Gear No: 853992  Name: 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
* 
853992 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
Gear: Key Chain

To be honest, I have no idea.
When submitting the new key chains, I just tried to follow what was said here:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=265187&nID=1186400

There isn't any other part in Satin Black in the catalog yet and I don't
own that Chrome Black Darth Vader to compare the colors.

Chrome black is also this container on the outside
 
Part No: 29632c07pb01  Name: Container, Pod with Black 6 x 6 Round Plate and White 1 x 2 Plate with Star Wars Pattern (Sticker) and Hologram - Set  5005376
* 
29632c07pb01 Container, Pod with Black 6 x 6 Round Plate and White 1 x 2 Plate with Star Wars Pattern (Sticker) and Hologram - Set 5005376
Parts: Container, Decorated
look at the note

I think this brick is chrome black

You are probably right. I think I was confused by that other discussion where
nobody mentioned that the black brick might be chrome and not satin/opal/whatever.
Request submitted.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 08:03
 Subject: Re: Key chain 853992
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  I just noticed this key chain in the catalog.
The current name is " 2 x 4 Brick - Satin Black Key Chain".
Should that not be "2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain"?
Or am I mistaken here?

 
Gear No: 853992  Name: 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
* 
853992 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
Gear: Key Chain

To be honest, I have no idea.
When submitting the new key chains, I just tried to follow what was said here:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=265187&nID=1186400

There isn't any other part in Satin Black in the catalog yet and I don't
own that Chrome Black Darth Vader to compare the colors.

Chrome black is also this container on the outside
 
Part No: 29632c07pb01  Name: Container, Pod with Black 6 x 6 Round Plate and White 1 x 2 Plate with Star Wars Pattern (Sticker) and Hologram - Set  5005376
* 
29632c07pb01 Container, Pod with Black 6 x 6 Round Plate and White 1 x 2 Plate with Star Wars Pattern (Sticker) and Hologram - Set 5005376
Parts: Container, Decorated
look at the note

I think this brick is chrome black
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 07:20
 Subject: Re: Key chain 853992
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  I just noticed this key chain in the catalog.
The current name is " 2 x 4 Brick - Satin Black Key Chain".
Should that not be "2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain"?
Or am I mistaken here?

 
Gear No: 853992  Name: 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
* 
853992 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
Gear: Key Chain

To be honest, I have no idea.
When submitting the new key chains, I just tried to follow what was said here:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=265187&nID=1186400

There isn't any other part in Satin Black in the catalog yet and I don't
own that Chrome Black Darth Vader to compare the colors.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 05:45
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I just noticed this key chain in the catalog.
The current name is " 2 x 4 Brick - Satin Black Key Chain".
Should that not be "2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain"?
Or am I mistaken here?

 
Gear No: 853992  Name: 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
* 
853992 2 x 4 Brick - Chrome Black Key Chain
Gear: Key Chain
 Author: Schredder View Messages Posted By Schredder
 Posted: Jul 14, 2020 03:13
 Subject: Chrome silver Roborider wheels
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Hi all,

yesterday i recovered my roborider wheel collection from early this century and
decided to sell it.

In the meantime i know about the metallic gold ones (from e. g. promo pack 800010,
see also my store).

What i am still interested in are 2 chrome silver chainsaw wheels (part 32362).

Does anyone know, if these were official parts or just a misprint?
They do not look like some just painted a normal one.

Best regards,
Manfred
 
 Author: Primicia View Messages Posted By Primicia
 Posted: Jul 13, 2020 17:20
 Subject: Re: 973pb0303 torso in yellow?
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In Catalog, LegoMath writes:
  In Catalog, Primicia writes:
  Hi
I just found this minifigure.
But I can only find 973pb0303 in orange.
So how can I add this color?

Is this what you are looking for?
 
Part No: 973pb0488c01  Name: Torso Coast Guard City Logo, Zippers and Radio Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0488c01 (Inv) Torso Coast Guard City Logo, Zippers and Radio Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

Thanks!
 Author: Primicia View Messages Posted By Primicia
 Posted: Jul 13, 2020 17:20
 Subject: Re: 973pb0303 torso in yellow?
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In Catalog, Cob writes:
  In Catalog, Primicia writes:
  Hi
I just found this minifigure.
But I can only find 973pb0303 in orange.
So how can I add this color?

 
Part No: 973pb0488c01  Name: Torso Coast Guard City Logo, Zippers and Radio Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0488c01 (Inv) Torso Coast Guard City Logo, Zippers and Radio Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

Thanks!
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: Jul 13, 2020 14:53
 Subject: Re: 973pb0303 torso in yellow?
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In Catalog, Primicia writes:
  Hi
I just found this minifigure.
But I can only find 973pb0303 in orange.
So how can I add this color?

 
Part No: 973pb0488c01  Name: Torso Coast Guard City Logo, Zippers and Radio Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0488c01 (Inv) Torso Coast Guard City Logo, Zippers and Radio Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
 Author: FantasyBricks View Messages Posted By FantasyBricks
 Posted: Jul 13, 2020 14:52
 Subject: Re: 973pb0303 torso in yellow?
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In Catalog, Primicia writes:
  Hi
I just found this minifigure.
But I can only find 973pb0303 in orange.
So how can I add this color?

Is this what you are looking for?
 
Part No: 973pb0488c01  Name: Torso Coast Guard City Logo, Zippers and Radio Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973pb0488c01 (Inv) Torso Coast Guard City Logo, Zippers and Radio Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
 Author: Primicia View Messages Posted By Primicia
 Posted: Jul 13, 2020 14:45
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Hi
I just found this minifigure.
But I can only find 973pb0303 in orange.
So how can I add this color?
 
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 17:13
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In Catalog, Soviet writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, skikyssing writes:
  Hi,
The inventory of the 75939 has been added on june first. but we can not still
part out the set.
I guess Lego do not care about getting fees from Bricklink...
Lego should hire someone who can be responsable for inventories.
Why do we have to make the job of Bricklink and Lego?
Bricklink and Lego should give reward for the people who take their extra time
to register all the sets...

Could someone do something about it?

I bought the other sets to inventory them, but at the time this one was reserved
by someone else. It isn't clear now whether they decided not to do it or
their reservation just timed out. I don't remember who it was.

They have communicated that they are not going to do the inventory. I will free
it up for you.

I'm sorry if I seemed to imply it, but I am not planning to do the set at
this time. I have all I need on my plate at the moment.

Alright, I'll do it. I recently got the parting-out ich and it looks pretty
interesting.

Excellent. I WILL want to get some of those baby Dinos at some point, but I
think I can wait for clearance.
 Author: Soviet View Messages Posted By Soviet
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 16:11
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, skikyssing writes:
  Hi,
The inventory of the 75939 has been added on june first. but we can not still
part out the set.
I guess Lego do not care about getting fees from Bricklink...
Lego should hire someone who can be responsable for inventories.
Why do we have to make the job of Bricklink and Lego?
Bricklink and Lego should give reward for the people who take their extra time
to register all the sets...

Could someone do something about it?

I bought the other sets to inventory them, but at the time this one was reserved
by someone else. It isn't clear now whether they decided not to do it or
their reservation just timed out. I don't remember who it was.

They have communicated that they are not going to do the inventory. I will free
it up for you.

I'm sorry if I seemed to imply it, but I am not planning to do the set at
this time. I have all I need on my plate at the moment.

Alright, I'll do it. I recently got the parting-out ich and it looks pretty
interesting.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 16:04
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, skikyssing writes:
  Hi,
The inventory of the 75939 has been added on june first. but we can not still
part out the set.
I guess Lego do not care about getting fees from Bricklink...
Lego should hire someone who can be responsable for inventories.
Why do we have to make the job of Bricklink and Lego?
Bricklink and Lego should give reward for the people who take their extra time
to register all the sets...

Could someone do something about it?

I bought the other sets to inventory them, but at the time this one was reserved
by someone else. It isn't clear now whether they decided not to do it or
their reservation just timed out. I don't remember who it was.

They have communicated that they are not going to do the inventory. I will free
it up for you.

I'm sorry if I seemed to imply it, but I am not planning to do the set at
this time. I have all I need on my plate at the moment.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 14:55
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, skikyssing writes:
  Hi,
The inventory of the 75939 has been added on june first. but we can not still
part out the set.
I guess Lego do not care about getting fees from Bricklink...
Lego should hire someone who can be responsable for inventories.
Why do we have to make the job of Bricklink and Lego?
Bricklink and Lego should give reward for the people who take their extra time
to register all the sets...

Could someone do something about it?

I bought the other sets to inventory them, but at the time this one was reserved
by someone else. It isn't clear now whether they decided not to do it or
their reservation just timed out. I don't remember who it was.

They have communicated that they are not going to do the inventory. I will free
it up for you.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 11:23
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In Catalog, skikyssing writes:
  Hi,
The inventory of the 75939 has been added on june first. but we can not still
part out the set.
I guess Lego do not care about getting fees from Bricklink...
Lego should hire someone who can be responsable for inventories.
Why do we have to make the job of Bricklink and Lego?
Bricklink and Lego should give reward for the people who take their extra time
to register all the sets...

Could someone do something about it?

I bought the other sets to inventory them, but at the time this one was reserved
by someone else. It isn't clear now whether they decided not to do it or
their reservation just timed out. I don't remember who it was.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 10:05
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In Catalog, skikyssing writes:
  Hi,
The inventory of the 75939 has been added on june first. but we can not still
part out the set.

BrickLink inventories are and have always been submitted by BrickLink members.

  I guess Lego do not care about getting fees from Bricklink...

I seriously doubt LEGO is generating wealth from this little site.

  Lego should hire someone who can be responsable for inventories.

We have always had volunteer Admins who do an amazing job.

  Why do we have to make the job of Bricklink and Lego?

Because the job would be too big and too expensive. Our data is crowd sourced
because that system is efficient and effective.

  Bricklink and Lego should give reward for the people who take their extra time
to register all the sets...

BrickLink does.
  
Could someone do something about it?

Yes! You can! That's what's so great. Feel free to submit the inventory,
people here on the forum will answer any questions you have, and our awesome
admins will help you along. You will be parting out your set in no time.

Sorry if I sound harsh, but your post is very harsh and negative. You have been
a member here for 5 years and have never noticed who creates our catalog?

Good luck,
Jen
 Author: skikyssing View Messages Posted By skikyssing
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 09:41
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Hi,
The inventory of the 75939 has been added on june first. but we can not still
part out the set.
I guess Lego do not care about getting fees from Bricklink...
Lego should hire someone who can be responsable for inventories.
Why do we have to make the job of Bricklink and Lego?
Bricklink and Lego should give reward for the people who take their extra time
to register all the sets...

Could someone do something about it?
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 02:31
 Subject: Re: With and without groove in one set
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All of them are with groove. I made a change request as you asked.

In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  OK, thanks to you all. So if I read it right, I should submit two red 44301a
as regular and two red 44301b as alternate and delete the two red 44301?

Yes, that is correct.

Could you also check and change the undetermined black hinge plates in the set?

 
Part No: 44301  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge {Black}
 
Part No: 44302  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End
* 
44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End
Parts: Hinge {Black}

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 12, 2020 00:31
 Subject: Re: How to combine parts into a new c01 entry?
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I assume you are being facetious, but yeah. I would add them as counterparts
in the set also. I think it is an item that people will be interested in buying
and they probably won’t want the tray or lid by itself. Commercially they are
best listed as a set.

Really hard to find right now since they are gear and are not in inventories.

When we're redoing the catalog guidelines we'll take this into consideration.
I'm not opposed to these entries on principle, just for the potential they
introduce. But again, we'll consider it and have something solid in place
by the end of the year.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 22:26
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  So no one would have to add lidded entries to hundreds of containers

Would I be accurate in assessing your comments to say that you support the addition
of combined tray/lid catalog entries for Dots sorting containers?

I assume you are being facetious, but yeah. I would add them as counterparts
in the set also. I think it is an item that people will be interested in buying
and they probably won’t want the tray or lid by itself. Commercially they are
best listed as a set.

Really hard to find right now since they are gear and are not in inventories.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 19:54
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  So no one would have to add lidded entries to hundreds of containers

Would I be accurate in assessing your comments to say that you support the addition
of combined tray/lid catalog entries for Dots sorting containers?
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 19:50
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  When it comes to the Dots trays with lids, the current catalog guidelines prohibit
them in two ways. First, from even having an entry:

The system automatically adds / updates / deletes the corresponding original
box entry for every set that is added to the catalog. Original Boxes should therefore
not be added to the catalog.


I don't think I have received a Dots set in a box yet. No problem there.


  The second prohibition is more important,
though. It is not expressly stated, but comes from a combined interpretation
of these two rules:

For example 2, 3, or 4 bricks stacked together should not be added to the
catalog as there are virtually infinite possibilities for these combinations.

There is only one way to put a Dots lid with a Dots tray, unless you count rotations.
Then there are 4.

  The meaning is that random items not packaged and sold that specific way by TLG
should not be added to the catalog. The Dots sorting trays and lids were never
sold separately as a combined empty tray with a lid.

The lid on the tray is actually the way all of mine came from the factory.

  But if we add Dots sorting trays with lids, we have no excuse not to also add
combined entries for the following:

There is a white Man-Bat minifigure now and I haven't added it to the catalog.
The rules say he could be added, but no one has done it. And if I needed an
excuse for myself it would be that the set isn't available to me yet, but
I don't need an excuse and no one else does either. It isn't my responsibility
to make sure that everything allowed in the catalog is in the catalog. So no
one would have to add lidded entries to hundreds of containers just because someone
submitted a listing for this one and it got approved. If someone wanted one
of the other hundreds in the catalog and were willing to do the work then they
would do it. Maybe we would never get them all in the catalog. We certainly
don't get all of the stickered counterparts in the catalog either.
 Author: Pippysblocks View Messages Posted By Pippysblocks
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 18:29
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No probs Stormchaser, I'll do this in the morning, I'll add a picture
for the armor too as it doesn't have one for dark blue. Just wasn't sure
on the correct process.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I wish that hadn't been done. It would have been a lot easier to fix at
the time than it is now.

The legs simply need to be added to the catalog and then to the figure inventory.
It's essentially the same process now as it was then.

Pippyblocks, submit the legs here:

https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp

and add a picture here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Catalog, axaday writes:

  I would have much preferred that the legs were created without a picture (assuming no render was available)

+1

I can't stand incomplete inventories and try to avoid them at all costs.
Some inevitably get through for things like gear items, but there really is no
excuse for having an incomplete minifigure inventory.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Why?

That's a fair question. The reason is that the BrickLink catalog is very
inconsistent. It's difficult to know if an item will be approved or not
and we get requests for preapprovals ("Would this be approved if I submitted
it?") with some frequency.

Preapprovals should not be necessary - that is the purpose of the submission
process. But they are necessary right now because of numerous inconsistencies.
We are in the process of moving to fewer inconsistencies. One step in that
process is updating catalog guidelines, which we are doing right now.

When it comes to the Dots trays with lids, the current catalog guidelines prohibit
them in two ways. First, from even having an entry:

The system automatically adds / updates / deletes the corresponding original
box entry for every set that is added to the catalog. Original Boxes should therefore
not be added to the catalog.


That rule has been disregarded for years and we disregarded it when approving
the Dots trays for catalog entries. The second prohibition is more important,
though. It is not expressly stated, but comes from a combined interpretation
of these two rules:

For example 2, 3, or 4 bricks stacked together should not be added to the
catalog as there are virtually infinite possibilities for these combinations.

Please limit submissions of multi-set Set entries to ways that LEGO itself is
known to have packaged and distributed such things, including sets released as
promotional items through other companies.


The meaning is that random items not packaged and sold that specific way by TLG
should not be added to the catalog. The Dots sorting trays and lids were never
sold separately as a combined empty tray with a lid.

The real question you're asking is this: what's the harm? The answer
is that it introduces further inconsistency. There have been a couple of very
carefully chosen exceptions to these rules over the years (collectible figure
entries are one).

But if we add Dots sorting trays with lids, we have no excuse not to also add
combined entries for the following:

 
Gear No: 2777  Name: Storage Bucket FreeStyle, Large with Handle
* 
2777 Storage Bucket FreeStyle, Large with Handle
Gear: Storage
 
Gear No: 2778  Name: Storage Bucket FreeStyle Lid Large, 'LEGO' on Studs
* 
2778 Storage Bucket FreeStyle Lid Large, 'LEGO' on Studs
Gear: Storage

 
Gear No: 2777  Name: Storage Bucket FreeStyle, Large with Handle
* 
2777 Storage Bucket FreeStyle, Large with Handle
Gear: Storage
 
Gear No: 2785  Name: Storage Bucket FreeStyle Lid Large, 'DUPLO' on Studs
* 
2785 Storage Bucket FreeStyle Lid Large, 'DUPLO' on Studs
Gear: Storage

I'm not going to list hundreds of examples, but look through the catalog
at all the items with lids and imagine having separate catalog entries for all
of them plus all combinations of them. This is basically a discussion of assemblies.
Like assemblies for parts, it is a contentious issue.

But we'll be working on the main catalog guidelines page within the next
six months and will post the new guidelines publicly for feedback and modification
before making them official. So if you feel strongly about assemblies of original
boxes, that would be the time to bring it up.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  I'ld like to see a new entry in the catalog for the combination of these:
 
Gear No: 901956  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
* 
901956 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
and
 
Gear No: 901957  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
* 
901957 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
When I'm correct in those cases a new part number is required with the extension
c01. How to proceed?

Maybe you can sell this in:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?O=41906-1
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 15:07
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  The process at the time was that he showed up in the list of minifigs that needed
to be inventoried. Now he still needs to be inventoried, but he doesn't
show up on the list. Is there a way to search for more like this?

Other than reading through all inventory notes, no. We discussed it at the time
administratively and decided that a partial inventory was preferable to no inventory
at all. I tried to add the word Incomplete in bold to inventory notes
for all partial inventories in the hope that someday we could flag these kinds
of inventories.

You can find all items with inventory notes by using the advanced catalog search
(currently 1,111 items). These notes are not searchable, which is one of several
reasons I've advocated for not including an additional note or inventory
note unless they are actually necessary.

Torsos are added with no pics all the time for people who submit assemblies only.
The torso assembly gets inventoried with a part that really only has a ghost
in the catalog, but it is better than nothing. If I were the king even that
wouldn't be allowed, but I would have much preferred that the legs were created
without a picture (assuming no render was available).
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 14:54
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  I'ld like to see a new entry in the catalog for the combination of these:
 
Gear No: 901956  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
* 
901956 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
and
 
Gear No: 901957  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
* 
901957 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
When I'm correct in those cases a new part number is required with the extension
c01. How to proceed?

I don't think this is something that would be approved. No other tray/bucket/base
and lid combinations are in the catalog as combined entries that I'm aware
of. You have the option of listing the trays and lids as a superlot, but setting
new catalog precedent by adding these kinds of entries is probably not a path
we'd want to go down.

Why?
When you look at reviews of Dots sets the boxes are very positively received
and have potential resale value. Going the historically ‘correct’ procedure that
similar parts were not approved earlier is not a valid reason imo. The world
is changing and what was not ok in the past might be ok now.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, TiceRex writes:
  The sets 31014 and 31041 consist equally 64 parts, the size and proportions are
the same. Why are the categorized differently?

- "Catalog: Sets: Creator: Model: Construction:" (31041)
- "Catalog: Sets: Creator: Basic Model: Construction:" (31014)

Honestly, we were just being silly. You're welcome to request category changes
to any set in the catalog with this form:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=S

The category definitions are here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1568

In this case I believe the category Model should be changed to Basic Model for
31041.
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As far as I remember I have asked it already a few years ago, but I can't
find any trace now.

The sets 31014 and 31041 consist equally 64 parts, the size and proportions are
the same. Why are the categorized differently?

What's the difference between these categories?
- "Catalog: Sets: Creator: Model: Construction:" (31041)
- "Catalog: Sets: Creator: Basic Model: Construction:" (31014)

Regards, TiceRex
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 13:23
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  The process at the time was that he showed up in the list of minifigs that needed
to be inventoried. Now he still needs to be inventoried, but he doesn't
show up on the list. Is there a way to search for more like this?

Other than reading through all inventory notes, no. We discussed it at the time
administratively and decided that a partial inventory was preferable to no inventory
at all. I tried to add the word Incomplete in bold to inventory notes
for all partial inventories in the hope that someday we could flag these kinds
of inventories.

You can find all items with inventory notes by using the advanced catalog search
(currently 1,111 items). These notes are not searchable, which is one of several
reasons I've advocated for not including an additional note or inventory
note unless they are actually necessary.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  I'ld like to see a new entry in the catalog for the combination of these:
 
Gear No: 901956  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
* 
901956 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
and
 
Gear No: 901957  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
* 
901957 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
When I'm correct in those cases a new part number is required with the extension
c01. How to proceed?

The procedural answer to your question is that you would add 907957c01 to the
catalog as a new item and then inventory it with both of the pieces. But don't
do it in this case, because admin said it wouldn't be approved.

What I do in a case like this is sell [g=907957] with the note "With Matching
Lid" and I have sold many things like this that way.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  The legs simply need to be added to the catalog and then to the figure inventory.
It's essentially the same process now as it was then.

The process at the time was that he showed up in the list of minifigs that needed
to be inventoried. Now he still needs to be inventoried, but he doesn't
show up on the list. Is there a way to search for more like this?
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  The legs simply need to be added to the catalog and then to the figure inventory.
It's essentially the same process now as it was then.

Now he is rare.
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  I'ld like to see a new entry in the catalog for the combination of these:
 
Gear No: 901956  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
* 
901956 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
and
 
Gear No: 901957  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
* 
901957 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
When I'm correct in those cases a new part number is required with the extension
c01. How to proceed?

I don't think this is something that would be approved. No other tray/bucket/base
and lid combinations are in the catalog as combined entries that I'm aware
of. You have the option of listing the trays and lids as a superlot, but setting
new catalog precedent by adding these kinds of entries is probably not a path
we'd want to go down.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I wish that hadn't been done. It would have been a lot easier to fix at
the time than it is now.

The legs simply need to be added to the catalog and then to the figure inventory.
It's essentially the same process now as it was then.

Pippyblocks, submit the legs here:

https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp

and add a picture here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
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I'ld like to see a new entry in the catalog for the combination of these:
 
Gear No: 901956  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
* 
901956 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Lid
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
and
 
Gear No: 901957  Name: Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
* 
901957 Dots Sorting Tray - 7 Compartment Small, Bottom
Gear: Storage, Sorting Tray: Dots
When I'm correct in those cases a new part number is required with the extension
c01. How to proceed?
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, Pippyblocks writes:
  Just about to part out some

 
Minifig No: nex117  Name: Clay Moorington - Dark Blue Helmet, Trans-Neon Orange Visor, Dark Blue Armor
* 
nex117 (Inv) Clay Moorington - Dark Blue Helmet, Trans-Neon Orange Visor, Dark Blue Armor
Minifigures: NEXO KNIGHTS

and I realise he appears to a bit legless. How do these get added to the catalog?

Many thanks,

I wish that hadn't been done. It would have been a lot easier to fix at
the time than it is now.
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Just about to part out some

 
Minifig No: nex117  Name: Clay Moorington - Dark Blue Helmet, Trans-Neon Orange Visor, Dark Blue Armor
* 
nex117 (Inv) Clay Moorington - Dark Blue Helmet, Trans-Neon Orange Visor, Dark Blue Armor
Minifigures: NEXO KNIGHTS

and I realise he appears to a bit legless. How do these get added to the catalog?

Many thanks,
 Author: peterab View Messages Posted By peterab
 Posted: Jul 11, 2020 08:51
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Are there LEGO sets with seperate Parts Lists or Inventory Lists?

The Catalog defines packaging and instructions and other books etc.
I would like to know if there are also parts lists?

Thx,
Arnoud

I mean parts lists on paper, like instructions, that come in the box...

I've seen pictures of a wooden box set from the 60's that had a printed
parts list. Of course because of the age these are rare. If I remember correctly
it was an English list so perhaps this was something that only happened with
the English sets.
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
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Submitted the changes for the red 44301. I shall have a look at the black 44301
and 44302.

In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  OK, thanks to you all. So if I read it right, I should submit two red 44301a
as regular and two red 44301b as alternate and delete the two red 44301?

Yes, that is correct.

Could you also check and change the undetermined black hinge plates in the set?

 
Part No: 44301  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge {Black}
 
Part No: 44302  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End
* 
44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End
Parts: Hinge {Black}

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  OK, thanks to you all. So if I read it right, I should submit two red 44301a
as regular and two red 44301b as alternate and delete the two red 44301?

Yes, that is correct.

Could you also check and change the undetermined black hinge plates in the set?

 
Part No: 44301  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge {Black}
 
Part No: 44302  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End
* 
44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End
Parts: Hinge {Black}

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  OK, thanks to you all. So if I read it right, I should submit two red 44301a
as regular and two red 44301b as alternate and delete the two red 44301?

Yep.
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OK, thanks to you all. So if I read it right, I should submit two red 44301a
as regular and two red 44301b as alternate and delete the two red 44301?

In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?

As others already mentioned, this is common with some part variants if borh were
in production at the same time. In such a case one of the variants should be
in the inventory as a regular and the other as an alternate.

Undetermined parts should be eliminated from inventories if we have evidence
for one or more specific variants in a set.
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?

As others already mentioned, this is common with some part variants if borh were
in production at the same time. In such a case one of the variants should be
in the inventory as a regular and the other as an alternate.

Undetermined parts should be eliminated from inventories if we have evidence
for one or more specific variants in a set.
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In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
  […]
Yes, it's normal. I just opened hundreds of sealed sets from 2015-2017 and
another few dozen individual sealed bags from 2005-2018. Not only is it normal
to have groove/no groove differences in the same set, but it's also normal
for the proportion of them to vary between different copies of the same set,
even bought at the same place on the same day. Same for hollow stud/blocked open
stud on heads and certain other pieces, same for hollow/solid underside tubes
on bricks and plates, same for virtually every mold difference.

Yep.  And BL’s inventories shouldn’t be read as “you either get N of this variant
or N of that one” but as “you N parts total, either of this or that variant.”
So each time there’s an Alternate for N parts, that means there are potentially
N+1 times more versions of the set.

Maybe something should be added to explaim that in https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562&q=Alternate#alternateItems
?
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?

Yes, it's normal. I just opened hundreds of sealed sets from 2015-2017 and
another few dozen individual sealed bags from 2005-2018. Not only is it normal
to have groove/no groove differences in the same set, but it's also normal
for the proportion of them to vary between different copies of the same set,
even bought at the same place on the same day. Same for hollow stud/blocked open
stud on heads and certain other pieces, same for hollow/solid underside tubes
on bricks and plates, same for virtually every mold difference.
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?

A sealed set sounds like a strong case to remove the undetermined type and add
what you actually found as regular and alternate parts
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In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?
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Sadly neither do I anymore.



In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick

I would love to see an inventory for x1447c01 in the catalog, but I don't
have the parts to add them.

And we also need a catalog entry for the Duplo pull cart with string and brick.
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In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick

I would love to see an inventory for x1447c01 in the catalog, but I don't
have the parts to add them.

And we also need a catalog entry for the Duplo pull cart with string and brick.
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This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?

E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?

Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

Cheers,
Arnoud


That is one of the lists I started with. There are more than 42...

But I am STILL missing one of those! I can't believe how difficult it is
to find number 31!

https://www.flickr.com/gp/111441268@N03/4Q6N24
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Sometimes if feels like my girlfriend is actively trying to do exactly that!

We get a new lot in, she does the rough sorting and assembly of any interesting
sets she can find, selects what she doesn't already have in the "play lego"
and gives me the leftovers for the shop.

I'm not complaining... I found the trick. I overwhelm her with parts and
I get a constant supply of (mostly vintage) sets and (eventually) enough parts


Ant
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.

There’s an onlive live tour (part 3 was today)
https://legohouse.com/en-gb/what-s-on/lego-house-live-tours/
Not sure if they will make them available for download sometime.

Anyway, I’d say you’re right on your assesment: it’s not a museum, just a few
toys.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.

I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.

There is a historical section which covers the history of the company and the
development of products, from wooden toys (and barns) through to more modern
day products. It is not a one-of-everything type display, more a showcase of
important stages in the development of todays product.
 
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.

I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  A LEGO museum would be a fantastic idea. Dedicated to the history of the bricks
with the parts collection being the highlight. Similar places already exist
that highlight specific collections - the National Postal Museum comes immediately
to mind with their collection of stamps. So why not one for LEGO parts?

I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.

There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.

Not so. It would be nice to have official approval, of course, but a museum
could open and operate just fine without it. It just couldn't advertise
itself as a LEGO museum (which is why the existing museum is called the Toy and
Plastic Brick Museum).
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?

E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?

Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

Cheers,
Arnoud
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A LEGO museum would be a fantastic idea. Dedicated to the history of the bricks
with the parts collection being the highlight. Similar places already exist
that highlight specific collections - the National Postal Museum comes immediately
to mind with their collection of stamps. So why not one for LEGO parts?

I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Are there LEGO sets with seperate Parts Lists or Inventory Lists?

The Catalog defines packaging and instructions and other books etc.
I would like to know if there are also parts lists?

Thx,
Arnoud

I mean parts lists on paper, like instructions, that come in the box...
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  Yeah, I thought so! But just checking as I am affraid to replace the stickers
and damage them.

The bricks who are not according to the instructions and I remember, are indeed
marked for deletion. How can I put a part as marked for deletion? In this case:
3009pb213

Just submit a catalog request - I have just done this one.

Thanks for spotting it.

  In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
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Yeah, I thought so! But just checking as I am affraid to replace the stickers
and damage them.

The bricks who are not according to the instructions and I remember, are indeed
marked for deletion. How can I put a part as marked for deletion? In this case:
3009pb213

In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
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I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

Please advice!
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Are there LEGO sets with seperate Parts Lists or Inventory Lists?

The Catalog defines packaging and instructions and other books etc.
I would like to know if there are also parts lists?

Thx,
Arnoud
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Anyway, all that would required to make a museum happen is a group of organizers
and some charitable donations.

A bit like for the eradication of diseases like malaria or tuberculosis, or to
end of world hunger, or to attain global world peace…
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Obviously a LONG term project to be sure.

Not really a long-term project, just one that someone would have to throw some
$$ at (it would be a permanently ongoing project, of course). Basically what
you're describing is the need for a LEGO museum.

I've wanted for a very long time (at least 10 years) to see this happen:
a place where you could visit and see and interact with all the LEGO items in
the BrickLink catalog (sets, parts, gear, etc.). I think about it whenever someone
posts in the forum bragging about destroying a sealed set from 1980, for example,
just to part out the contents.

It is certainly possible to make this happen and it could be set up as a 501(c)(3)
nonprofit. There is only one LEGO museum in the U.S. (the PBM) and its focus
is not on this area. Even Billund does not have a true LEGO museum of all LEGO
items, at least not that I'm aware (the vault doesn't really count).

Anyway, all that would required to make a museum happen is a group of organizers
and some charitable donations.
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Such a collection would be an invaluable tool for the hobby, to be sure. While
1 person probably couldn't do it, dozens of people could.

Just an idea - Bricklink recruits members to collect a category (or several,
or part of one - I'm looking at you printed minifig torsos) to house the
"official" parts collection. How to implement such a undertaking, I haven't
a clue.

But imagine the sight and interest it would draw if the entire collection could
be shown at LEGO conventions/shows!

Obviously a LONG term project to be sure.

Bill
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

I'm trying, I've spent almost €20.000 so far But only got 13.000 lots
so far. And I have duplicates as I distinguish new and used parts

This store is getting close: https://store.bricklink.com/GermanParts?p=GermanParts&sortBy=1&breakType=M#/terms
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
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That shows the PCC list is far from complete and includes many duplicates (variants
not distinguished by Bricklink).

The easier answer finally came to me: it can be derived from the colors page
(https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) by summing the appropriate column.
The 60.734 parts come in 81.263 color combinations in sets, as known on
Bricklink.

Guh, it’s obvious now you say it


  To be complete, the relevant summed columns are:
Known Parts: 81.263 unique part color combinations
On Wanted Lists: 182.281 unique part color combinations (so a great lot of wishful
thinking, hoping these parts will one day come available)
For Sale: 90.881 unique part color combinations (so a lot of factory escapes
or listing errors)

The 81.263 is including the patterned bricks, including variants, but excluding
parts that are not known to exist in sets.

And including composites. Like wheel + tyre or torso + arms + hands.
So it’s still both including too many parts and not enough.

But I believe we can say the real number is between 32,000 (number of PCCs for
parts without a “p” or “c” in their IDs) and 91,000 (parts for sale).


The only way to go further would be first to correctly clean out the p## parts
(we can’t remove them all as some of them are not really “decorated,” like dual-mould
ones) and the c## parts (some of them not being inventoried), and then look into
the parts in sets and the parts for sale/sold (and hope there are not many listing
errors). And then there might still be a few very rare, not in sets, not for
sale, not recently sold parts out there.


  This last category includes all the
Modulex bricks as there seem to be no set inventories for these. Why is that?

Don’t know. How were the Modulex distributed?
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
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I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations.

As of a few minutes ago, there were 52,433 PCC for parts in the catalogue.

But 17,695 have a “p” in their ID. That generally means they are decorated but
some are just multicoloured.

And 10,916 have a “c” in their ID. So they are composites and their composing
parts may already be counted, or not.
(Some cXX parts have no subparts, some subparts may not have PCCs, and you might
want to count the subparts and the composite or only the composite or only the
subparts….)

And some (~8600) have a “c” AND a “p” in their ID, but I didn’t dig deeper into
the IDs.

Plus, there a few doublets, e.g. parts from parts packs share a PCC.

And that doesn’t say how many parts exists but have no PCC in the catalogue.
I’d guess mostly parts not in a set or in older sets but there may still be
many thousands of them.

So, er, well, yeah, who knows how many part colour combinations?


That shows the PCC list is far from complete and includes many duplicates (variants
not distinguished by Bricklink).

The easier answer finally came to me: it can be derived from the colors page
(https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) by summing the appropriate column.
The 60.734 parts come in 81.263 color combinations in sets, as known on
Bricklink.
To be complete, the relevant summed columns are:
Known Parts: 81.263 unique part color combinations
On Wanted Lists: 182.281 unique part color combinations (so a great lot of wishful
thinking, hoping these parts will one day come available)
For Sale: 90.881 unique part color combinations (so a lot of factory escapes
or listing errors)

The 81.263 is including the patterned bricks, including variants, but excluding
parts that are not known to exist in sets. This last category includes all the
Modulex bricks as there seem to be no set inventories for these. Why is that?
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I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations.

As of a few minutes ago, there were 52,433 PCC for parts in the catalogue.

But 17,695 have a “p” in their ID. That generally means they are decorated but
some are just multicoloured.

And 10,916 have a “c” in their ID. So they are composites and their composing
parts may already be counted, or not.
(Some cXX parts have no subparts, some subparts may not have PCCs, and you might
want to count the subparts and the composite or only the composite or only the
subparts….)

And some (~8600) have a “c” AND a “p” in their ID, but I didn’t dig deeper into
the IDs.

Plus, there a few doublets, e.g. parts from parts packs share a PCC.

And that doesn’t say how many parts exists but have no PCC in the catalogue.
I’d guess mostly parts not in a set or in older sets but there may still be
many thousands of them.

So, er, well, yeah, who knows how many part colour combinations?


   But then again, I don't actually buy just to
collect the catalog. That is secondary to buying for building.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

With over 60.000 parts in the catalog (14.969 without pattern, https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=-pattern&catType=P),
it is a challenge indeed. Some shops come a long way:

https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?sMM=7&sDD=7&sYY=2020&itemSeq=1&breakType=M&sortBy=1&q=&itemType=P®ionID=-1

(But you can't really trust the numbers if they have duplicate lots)

I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations. But then again, I don't actually buy just to
collect the catalog. That is secondary to buying for building.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you mean including printed parts and printed minifigure parts? As then it
becomes almost a collection of all minifigures too. I think they look better
as minifigures rather than parts.

But there are certainly collectors of individual parts in many colours. Personally,
I like 1x2 plates and tiles.

I have almost all the decorated 2x4 bricks. That is challenging enough.

Collecting the catalog would be Awesome, but I don't have the time and money
to even make a serious attempt.
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you mean including printed parts and printed minifigure parts? As then it
becomes almost a collection of all minifigures too. I think they look better
as minifigures rather than parts.

But there are certainly collectors of individual parts in many colours. Personally,
I like 1x2 plates and tiles.
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  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

It would be a never-ending and very expensive hobby, that's for sure!
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Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill
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In Catalog, BulbaNerd4000 writes:
  I noticed that the Cars 3 cars are classified as minifigures. The older ones
for 1 and 2 in 2011 are built in pretty much the same way, but are not minifigs.
How does this make any sense? Should we put the older cars as figs or make
a new listing for the complete car under parts (kind of like how a full dinosaur
goes under parts) so people can find the individual cars easier? Just a thought

Please see this message:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1200979

Yes, the Cars items do need to be addressed.
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I noticed that the Cars 3 cars are classified as minifigures. The older ones
for 1 and 2 in 2011 are built in pretty much the same way, but are not minifigs.
How does this make any sense? Should we put the older cars as figs or make
a new listing for the complete car under parts (kind of like how a full dinosaur
goes under parts) so people can find the individual cars easier? Just a thought

Stay safe!
-BulbaNerd4000
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
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Also there are slopes which have a smooth variation which are not in the catalog,
like 3045. Besides that, where is the end? I could easely point out slopes with
'very rough' surface or allmost smooth. But I think a note should be
added for each slope with variation, because building sets from the 70's
with smooth slopes is not very nice. With a note a buyer can allways ask the
seller for a variation.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, howdyhamster writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

/Jan

The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]

Yes, there is a whole set of those with very nice photos on BrickLink that show
the smoothness of the surface. But the question would be, does it make a difference
when buying and selling the parts in this set to have "smooth" in the item name,
or use a different root part number than the standard part?
 
Part No: 3298  Name: Slope 33 3 x 2
* 
3298 Slope 33 3 x 2
Parts: Slope

I believe you when you say the surface is smooth, but have you found any of these
McDonald's slopes that had a rough surface?

You are correct that I haven't seen a rough one. Having recently organized
my collection, I would actually prefer for the catalog to be simplified a bit,
as some of the part differences were IMO pretty nitpicky. Was just pointing out
that those smooth parts exist.
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In Catalog, howdyhamster writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

/Jan

The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]

Yes, there is a whole set of those with very nice photos on BrickLink that show
the smoothness of the surface. But the question would be, does it make a difference
when buying and selling the parts in this set to have "smooth" in the item name,
or use a different root part number than the standard part?
 
Part No: 3298  Name: Slope 33 3 x 2
* 
3298 Slope 33 3 x 2
Parts: Slope

I believe you when you say the surface is smooth, but have you found any of these
McDonald's slopes that had a rough surface?
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In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Adjour writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Rick_S. writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

The sprue is just a piece that held this part, it has no other function outside
of that.

https://youtu.be/PjZHVRKSjyc?t=76

and i've seen people use non-LEGO pieces in LEGO construction, should we
add those in too ?

Straw man.



People sometimes want the sprues to "complete" boxed sets. I see no reason not
to have a listing.

yeah well if the sprue ain't attached to the item it is no good when the
item still on the sprue can be bought, so your argument is pointless.

You are pleasant aren't you?

Lets start over. Hi, I don't agree with you. Respectfully.

I'm not saying I care about sprues, I don't. But people out there clearly
do so I should be considered.


Crystal

yes they care about using them by themselves in MoC's just like there were
other sprues I used in MoC's like the ones for the gold coins, but like I
said this was already tried before to get that sprue into the catalog and it
was denied. when you are on this site long enough you see many suggestions come
and go and come and go and come and go. the best suggestion given at that time
for selling them was putting them into an unsorted type lot. but that was it.

Again, no skin in this game, was just making conversation. I'm always surprised
how seriously some of this catalog stuff is taken by people.


I know I personally would just sell them on ebay if it was a big deal to me.
I usually try to work within existing frameworks rather than change them, just
my personality. I understand that others are different


Crystal
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In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

/Jan

The McDonald's 30474 slopes I have are definitely smooth with a printed pattern
over the smooth surface.
[P=30474pb03]
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In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  
  I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

In fact, the slope in question is
 
Part No: 3678ap01  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, Dark Gray and Red Witch Pattern
* 
3678ap01 Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, Dark Gray and Red Witch Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
. I just checked it again. It's
smooth and shiny. No sign of texture at all.

And of course, as someone else wrote: This slope without print also exists in
a smooth version (or it always comes as smooth, I'm not sure about that).
It was used for Trans-Clear windscreens on some old vehicles.

/Jan
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  I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

In fact, the slope in question is
 
Part No: 3678ap01  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, Dark Gray and Red Witch Pattern
* 
3678ap01 Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, Dark Gray and Red Witch Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
. I just checked it again. It's
smooth and shiny. No sign of texture at all.

/Jan
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  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

I have my doubts if these actually exist, and if they do, that they are identified
correctly in current inventories. I have only ever seen one slope with a smooth
and shiny sloping surface, I believe it was a printed 2x2x2 slope used in a minifig.
All other slopes I've seen (thousands) either have old rough or modern smooth
texture. Some think that the change to texture is caused by worn molds. I believe
it was a design change by the company so that the sloping sides were better fit
for putting (and keeping) stickers on. Stickers on slopes have been used much
more in the later years than in the old days.

/Jan
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I vote yes

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  [P=30474]
[P=3048b]
[P=3046b]
[P=3037b]
[P=3684b]

We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  We're considering eliminating separate catalog entries for smooth slopes
for a number of different reasons and are seeking feedback from the community
on the decision. This change would primarily effect the five catalog entries
shown above.

Please share your thoughts.

Yes, please get rid of the entries for smooth slopes. They're the only entries
in the catalog that I heartily dislike, so much so that I've actually ranted
to my partner about how ridiculous it is to have the entries in the system (she
rolled her eyes and ignored me, but that's beside the point).

I'm launching a huge store in a few months (500,000 used parts), and I'm
fully separating every mold difference that Bricklink lists, plus a bunch that
aren't listed. I like to be precise. It's almost a compulsion. But despite
my desire to do that wherever possible, I decided a few months back that I wouldn't
list "smooth slopes" regardless of the entries for them, since I believe they
don't belong in the catalog. So eliminating those entries would be quite
nice for my desire for completeness and accuracy
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Thanks so much! Found them!!


In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  They are listed under gear, then games.




In Catalog, BellaFux writes:
  Hello,

not sure if this is the correct forum, but I would like to know how I can list
my LEgo board games for sale.

3856 Ninjago Board Game
3841 Minotaurus Board Game
3843 Ramses Pyramid Board Game

I cant find the catalog entries so i cant upload them. Is there some trick?
All these nummers are also assigned to some single lego parts.

thx for any help,
Bellafux
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In Catalog, BellaFux writes:
  Hello,

not sure if this is the correct forum, but I would like to know how I can list
my LEgo board games for sale.

3856 Ninjago Board Game
3841 Minotaurus Board Game
3843 Ramses Pyramid Board Game

I cant find the catalog entries so i cant upload them. Is there some trick?
All these nummers are also assigned to some single lego parts.

thx for any help,
Bellafux

[G=G3856]
[G=G3841]
[G=3843]
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They are listed under gear, then games.




In Catalog, BellaFux writes:
  Hello,

not sure if this is the correct forum, but I would like to know how I can list
my LEgo board games for sale.

3856 Ninjago Board Game
3841 Minotaurus Board Game
3843 Ramses Pyramid Board Game

I cant find the catalog entries so i cant upload them. Is there some trick?
All these nummers are also assigned to some single lego parts.

thx for any help,
Bellafux
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Hello,

not sure if this is the correct forum, but I would like to know how I can list
my LEgo board games for sale.

3856 Ninjago Board Game
3841 Minotaurus Board Game
3843 Ramses Pyramid Board Game

I cant find the catalog entries so i cant upload them. Is there some trick?
All these nummers are also assigned to some single lego parts.

thx for any help,
Bellafux
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Thank you for all the responses so far. It seems we are all in agreement, which
is quite nice.

In Catalog, edk writes:
  The 2x2x2 does have an actual
smooth variation that I think should stay in the catalog.

Which specific part are you referring to here?

That must be
 
Part No: 3678a  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
* 
3678a Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 without Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
versus
 
Part No: 3678b  Name: Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
* 
3678b Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube
Parts: Slope
That's the only slope I can think of that is as smooth as a windscreen.

There might be smooth slopes around for the purpose of better applying stickers.

As for removing variants: I'd rather see Bricklink evolve towards a better
system of dealing with this, like I and many others have suggested so many times.
But still, the distinction between smooth and textured slope surfaces has never
seen true to me anyway.

That's the one

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