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 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 12, 2020 11:50
 Subject: Re: March Project - Sticker Sheet Restructuring
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Sure it does. You just add the second part number as an alternate item number
and put both Element IDs in two separate PCC slots. In this case, the vendor
number (the 140413A or 134071A) don't matter, but on some they will.

Cheers,
Randy

In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
  that doesn't solve this problem. same sheet, different number
 
Part No: 75138stk01a  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - International Version - (25703/6142378)
* 
75138stk01a Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - International Version - (25703/6142378)
Parts: Sticker Sheet
 
Part No: 75138stk01b  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - North American Version - (25704/6142381)
* 
75138stk01b Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - North American Version - (25704/6142381)
Parts: Sticker Sheet

In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  I'd say get rid of the current numbering system and give the sticker sheets
the part number which is written on the sheet itself. Then put the set # into
the description.

Design ID for stickers is the one before the / and the one after is the item
number.

The BrickLink item number/part number (or LEGO Design ID) is the one before the
slash and the BrickLink PCC (or LEGO Element ID) is the one after the slash.
That is exactly what I said above in my statement.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Mar 12, 2020 07:41
 Subject: Re: March Project - Sticker Sheet Restructuring
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Sure it does. You just add the second part number as an alternate item number
and put both Element IDs in two separate PCC slots. In this case, the vendor
number (the 140413A or 134071A) don't matter, but on some they will.

Cheers,
Randy

In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
  that doesn't solve this problem. same sheet, different number
 
Part No: 75138stk01a  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - International Version - (25703/6142378)
* 
75138stk01a Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - International Version - (25703/6142378)
Parts: Sticker Sheet
 
Part No: 75138stk01b  Name: Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - North American Version - (25704/6142381)
* 
75138stk01b Sticker Sheet for Set 75138 - North American Version - (25704/6142381)
Parts: Sticker Sheet

In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  I'd say get rid of the current numbering system and give the sticker sheets
the part number which is written on the sheet itself. Then put the set # into
the description.

Design ID for stickers is the one before the / and the one after is the item
number.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Mar 12, 2020 07:33
 Subject: Re: New minifigure head variant 28621
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  How should the new type (and the printed variants) be added to the catalog?

So this is basically a blocked open stud. We have two options:

1. Catalog them under the existing blocked open stud entry and add the new number
as an additional item number.

2. Create a new 3626d entry.

I don't have any preference here. What do others think?

Second option will be the best for now on.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Mar 12, 2020 04:32
 Subject: Re: StormChaser: the tale of two tails
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In Catalog, Legoboy_II writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  The 2340 has studs on the top, clearly making it a1x5 in stud length.

Anyway, the question is...is the item on the roadmap?

Should you not start calling it an atlas?

  
I see what has been written here, and if I may offer a new user perspective?

I have a few tail pieces and ran some search tests (using various descriptions
of what I thought I should search for) to see what I could find, and the results
were all over the place. I had the most success just typing in airplane tail,
then adding parameters as I found them, but it was less than ideal. I did find
the tails I have, but it took several searches and they never all appeared in
the same search - which I would have expected searching just for airplane tail.
Interestingly, I didn't always get repeatable results. So I agree, we need
a workable standard.

After giving the matter some thought, I think I would find success with a W x
L X H x S and additional description afterward. Where W X L describes the base,
H for the height, and S for the sweep extension. For example:

2430 - 1 x 4 x 3 x 1 swept airplane tail, with 1 X 2 tip and RES Q sticker
6239 - 2 x 3 x 3.67 x 3 swept airplane tail, no decorations

Just my thoughts, it may not be the answer, but maybe it sparks a better idea?

Split the fin from the plates, and use its max dimensions thus:
2340 - 1 x 4 Tail Plate, 4 x 3 Fin, 1 x 2 T-Tail Plate and RES Q Sticker
6239 - 2 x 3 Tail Plate, 4 x 3.67 Fin
54094 - 2 x 14 Tail Plate, 14 x 8 Fin, 2 x 2 T-Tail Plate
(I don't have a
 
Part No: 54094  Name: Tail 14 x 2 x 8
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54094 Tail 14 x 2 x 8
Parts: Tail
, but I think those are the dimensions, obviously
it must be corrected as required)
This might also allow dimensions to be entered for the rest of that category
(how does a tail, shuttle differ from a tail shuttle, small? Both are tails,
just add the dimensions and do away with shuttle and small as descriptors, since
the one is not the small version of the other anyway)

Decide on a proper definition of a Tail part actually and standardise its descriptions.
Decide if the purpose is a vertical stabiliser, for which
 
Part No: 30925  Name: Vehicle, Spoiler 1 x 4 on 1 x 2 Base
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30925 Vehicle, Spoiler 1 x 4 on 1 x 2 Base
Parts: Vehicle
also becomes
a Tail, or if a Tail is wedge, plate, brick etc modified by fins, for which
 
Part No: 28779  Name: Tail 4 x 1 with Pin Hole
* 
28779 Tail 4 x 1 with Pin Hole
Parts: Tail
,
 
Part No: 4588  Name: Brick, Round 1 x 1 with Fins
* 
4588 Brick, Round 1 x 1 with Fins
Parts: Brick, Round
,
 
Part No: 4591  Name: Brick, Round 2 x 2 x 2 with Fins
* 
4591 Brick, Round 2 x 2 x 2 with Fins
Parts: Brick, Round
also become Tails, not only
 
Part No: 4867  Name: Tail Wedge
* 
4867 Tail Wedge
Parts: Tail
.
As to 4867 - Tail Wedge, Fin , 2 x 2 T-Tail Plate (add dimensions), only because
someday the masters at TLG might decide to make a T-Tail Tile
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Mar 12, 2020 03:27
 Subject: Re: StormChaser: the tale of two tails
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  This is sort of akin to Number Six on your roadmap. I think.

It is, but definitely a good additional point to consider. I added the following
sentence to that project:

"Per mfav this project should also include an examination of how part dimensions
are titled, especially parts that have dimensions that exceed an attachment plate
(airplane tails, for example)."

And let me just say that it's not my roadmap. I made it for all of us to
share. It's our roadmap, our ongoing discussion about how to best
organize this catalog we share.

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