Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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I once submitted a torso something like Torso I seriously have no idea pattern.
Admin must have fixed it, but I don't remember what it was now.
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It was this one
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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I once submitted a torso something like Torso I seriously have no idea pattern.
Admin must have fixed it, but I don't remember what it was now.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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For those particular parts, a difference that could be identified in the titles
would be:
Triangle Facing Model Left
Triangle Facing Model Right
For the two Technic liftarms the actual warnings displayed on the stickers could
be described in the title.
For the modified tiles, the images are too small to even see clearly. So the
difference between those particular parts would need to be determined by looking
at the sticker sheets.
But the point is that we should all try to move away from this pattern 1/pattern
2 practice whenever possible. And I'm sure that if someone looks back through
stuff I've added that I've done it, too.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:56 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.
The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.
Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.
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I have a masterful command of the English language (no Polish sadly) and I have
no idea how to describe those blue ones where someone who was looking for them
would find them.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:50 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?
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Yes exactly as it is visible on sticker sheet
but instruction shows them to be applied like this so they need to be two parts.
https://www.lego.com/biassets/bi/6282600.pdf
page 122
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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Sorry, Marek, I wasn't picking on you or anyone else and I hope I didn't
make it appear that way. I understand language barriers.
The problem with pattern 1/pattern 2 parts is that it's difficult to even
locate them by searching. One has to scan through entire parts categories to
even find pattern 1/pattern 2 titles.
Perhaps this could be made into a community project of locating and retitling
these kinds of parts with slightly more descriptive titles.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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Is it actually the same sticker upside-down?
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:42 | | Subject: | Re: Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
These are added by me, I've named them so I have to say as non native english
speaker I have no idea how to describe them properly in english. This is the
barrier I cannot pass.
They both have almost identical pattern just those geometrical spots are just
in other places on both parts but are the same in shapes.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2020 11:34 | | Subject: | Pattern 1. Pattern 2. | | Viewed: | 164 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| There seems to be an increasing trend of identifying patterned parts by simply
calling them Pattern 1 and Pattern 2. Here are three random examples of recent
parts, but I could go on for a while.
I would caution against this practice of non-descriptively titling items. In
fact, I was hoping the site would move away from things like this, not more toward.
Although I suppose we could greatly simplify all titles by simply going the Mini
Upper Part "No. 1470" route that TLG uses.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: Another inconsistency | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, dcarmine writes:
| | Inconsistency is a pet peeve of my, so you know it's my last nerve on this
issue.
I haven't parted out much lately, but I got an opportunity to part out 3
of the 2019 Star Wars Advent Calendars
For the last 9 years TLC has included a Winter-ized SW figure in the 24th position
on the calendar. I saw that this last year was a Porg Santa. I didn't look
at the BL inventory to see how the subsets were being handled before I started.
I wanted to preserve the Porg Santa as a complete fig and part out all the other
"parts only" droids.
After finishing the sorting, I went to upload the part-out to BL. And that's
when I found it....Porg Santa was a part out...grrr. But the Gonk and Mouse
droids were left to sell whole...grrrr.
Who decides this stuff? How hard is it to be more consistent? I know there
is a lot of discussion about "What SW Droids are figures" and what are not.
But geesse, SMH.
Just my two cents.
Thanks for reading, no changes are expected.
Donna
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I'm replying since there is a silent finger pointing me 
I didn't decide. When I am doing an inventory and there is a controversial
issue, I ask ahead. Because I don't want to take and edit a picture and
then be asked to redo it. A Catalog Admin with a particular interest in Star
Wars guided me. But the rationale isn't really hard to follow. The mouse
droid and GONK droid in the 2019 calendar are very far from the first Mouse and
Gonk and all the others are minifigs. So they are handled like other minifigs.
But the porg and the mynock are not the first porg and mynock either. They
were both in where they are also listed as pieces and then counter
parted as complete assemblies. Just like the brick built animals in
and the dragon in . As far as I know, dinosaurs are the only ones
that appear assembled in the main part of inventories. I don't know why
that is, but I think the answer to your question is just why isn't a porg
a minifig, right? I would have been glad to make it one, but the reason that
it isn't is because it is an animal.
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| Author: | dcarmine | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 15:25 | | Subject: | Another inconsistency | | Viewed: | 163 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Inconsistency is a pet peeve of my, so you know it's my last nerve on this
issue.
I haven't parted out much lately, but I got an opportunity to part out 3
of the 2019 Star Wars Advent Calendars
For the last 9 years TLC has included a Winter-ized SW figure in the 24th position
on the calendar. I saw that this last year was a Porg Santa. I didn't look
at the BL inventory to see how the subsets were being handled before I started.
I wanted to preserve the Porg Santa as a complete fig and part out all the other
"parts only" droids.
After finishing the sorting, I went to upload the part-out to BL. And that's
when I found it....Porg Santa was a part out...grrr. But the Gonk and Mouse
droids were left to sell whole...grrrr.
Who decides this stuff? How hard is it to be more consistent? I know there
is a lot of discussion about "What SW Droids are figures" and what are not.
But geesse, SMH.
Just my two cents.
Thanks for reading, no changes are expected.
Donna
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| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 01:01 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, BasKrie writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
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The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
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The items do show up in the items for sale
New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)
New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)
These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)
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It may have to do with the software they use to upload and sync their inventory.
This shouldn't be possible, however. Zero QTY lots should only be retained
in a stockroom.
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And since it's one and the same company, they have the same software, which
probably sync both inventories at the same time.
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 00:15 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, BasKrie writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
|
The items do show up in the items for sale
New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)
New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)
These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)
|
It may have to do with the software they use to upload and sync their inventory.
This shouldn't be possible, however. Zero QTY lots should only be retained
in a stockroom.
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| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 21:01 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | | Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
| | some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
Some statistics of average price, total sold, total available et cetera are calculated
during the daily maintenance and hence may differ slightly from the actual items
for sale. This especially shows for rare items that have just been sold or added
to inventories.
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Ive just checked the same part again today and same issue. So its not the updating
of daily maintenance.
Admin - another bug ?
Yogi
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| Author: | Vosblokjes | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 06:17 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
|
The items do show up in the items for sale
New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)
New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)
These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)
|
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| Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 06:09 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
Some statistics of average price, total sold, total available et cetera are calculated
during the daily maintenance and hence may differ slightly from the actual items
for sale. This especially shows for rare items that have just been sold or added
to inventories.
|
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| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 05:44 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
|
The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
|
|
| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 05:30 | | Subject: | catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:50 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Duq writes:
| | Element 6286835 is 28870 in black, not medium azure.
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Stormchaser requested the change. I confirm from my instruction book.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:26 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | (sadly BL is the worst side speed wise when it comes to adding inventories...)
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If you were tasked with identifying a reason for this, keeping in mind the source
of BrickLink inventories, from where would you discover that the problem originates?
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Sorry I have no idea how BL works behind the scenes so I cant answer that but
I hope that the work with the TLG will speed up those things
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The way it works is that you or me needs to build an inventory and submit
it. So far this year I have done and the
whole DC CMF series. Next up will be and
all on their way to me in the mail.
How does your plate look?
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| Author: | Drudatz | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | (sadly BL is the worst side speed wise when it comes to adding inventories...)
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If you were tasked with identifying a reason for this, keeping in mind the source
of BrickLink inventories, from where would you discover that the problem originates?
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Sorry I have no idea how BL works behind the scenes so I cant answer that but
I hope that the work with the TLG will speed up those things
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| Author: | Drudatz | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 16:02 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | that is because BrickLink inventories are based on sealed set contents, and they
have features that other systems do not have, such as complete minifig and minifig
part data, stickers, counterparts, and extras. This is the reason that sellers
prefer to part out using BrickLink inventories, even if it means they have to
wait a while.
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Sorry but BL has always been VERY slow when it comes to do inventorys (or rather
the Pending Approval).
Recent example: 40395 - 23 lots aka 67 parts. A set is out since 8 days and even
up on Legos site should be up including part list on BL by now imho.
I dont know how the policy is about naming other websites (especially now that
TLG owns BL) but the biggest lego moc site has the part list which includes no
stickers, minifigs or any new parts.
thats no critic of your work Russel just my 2 bricks.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Dino1 writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Dino1 writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | In Catalog, Classicsmiley writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
It just hasn't been added to Bricks & Pieces yet. 6286835 is indeed 28870
in black. It comes in the new Bookshop set.
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I see but the bookstore isnt parted out on BL yet so op has to wait for that
(sadly BL is the worst side speed wise when it comes to adding inventories...)
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Maybe it will be better if TLG uses its own admins.
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Our current admins are in the process of becoming the LEGO Group's own admins.
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OMG
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I don't even understand. Bricklink has some computer problems right now
and has long been needing some investment that we all hope Lego will be providing,
but you're talking about Randy, Marek, and the Pauls and I don't know
what you want from them that they don't give you.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 13:22 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Dino1 writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
| | In Catalog, Classicsmiley writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
It just hasn't been added to Bricks & Pieces yet. 6286835 is indeed 28870
in black. It comes in the new Bookshop set.
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I see but the bookstore isnt parted out on BL yet so op has to wait for that
(sadly BL is the worst side speed wise when it comes to adding inventories...)
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Maybe it will be better if TLG uses its own admins.
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I doubt it. The catmins especially know their stuff. Significantly more than
LEGO customer service reps do. When older parts are not available, the LEGO CS
often suggest replacement parts that are nothing like what they are meant to
replace.
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| Author: | rikitikitaviguy | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2020 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: Element 6286835 wrong colour | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| "Politically Correct Crap"
LM
In Catalog, Dino1 writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Dino1 writes:
| | In Catalog, Drudatz writes:
There are many elements in unknown colors.
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With PCCs?
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What is PCC?
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