Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Stellar  | | Posted: | Apr 4, 2021 05:32 | | Subject: | Re: Add tax inclusive/exempt option on refund | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
| | Had a thought about the previous discussion where it is quite confusing currently
for processing refunds for US states that have collected sales tax. As it stands,
the refund box has us enter an amount, and then below it calculates the amount
that will come from the seller/PayPal, and the amount from the taxes BrickLink
collected, so a seller has to know the rate of tax for the state of the buyer
and also include it in the total.
|
Which is different from the exemption issue. The real important question about
this is, who determines that a buyer is exempt, the seller or BL. From my perspective
it would be BL that processes the buyer's exemption certificate (as it would
cover all sellers shipping to that buyer).
| | Suggestion:
-Beside the box where you enter the refund amount, include a "tax inclusive"
and "tax exclusive" radio button where the seller can select it.
This would allow sellers to not have to know the rate of state for the state
and manually calculate it by selecting "tax exclusive", meaning the calculation
below will take that amount, and ADD tax to the total (not as a % of the total
the seller put in).
|
Seller's will not know, particularly when the tax rate varies by jurisdiction
within a state. Florida has a statewide base rate of 6%, but a county optional
add-on of 0%-1.5%. So the rate may vary depending on the specific address within
the state. The rate can more likely be retrieved by the service that BL is using
to pull up this information.
| | But this also allows what Niek (qwertyboy) had suggested where if you want to
give a higher total amount, you can check tax inclusive so it'll act the
way that it's currently programmed.
|
Nita Rae
|
By tax exclusive, I wasn't referring to any kind of tax exemption. Tax exclusive
when referring to calculators like this means that the total you have entered
does not include the sales tax. This is how sellers want it to operate (based
on discussions), where the amount we enter is tax exclusive, so the calculation
below it will add the tax automatically without the seller having to calculate
it (since we can't easily know what the rates are).
Tax inclusive is for when a seller is doing an amount (usually) above and beyond
just a direct refund of a part. To clarify, how it works right now by default
is this method - tax inclusive. When you enter an amount, the calculator believes
that you already included the sales tax, and it's doing the breakdown of
which part of that refund is sales tax, and what is the amount for the item(s)
itself.
|
... and to make things even more complex - I believe some states have taxes on
shipping as well, and others don't. What if you agree to refund an item from
the order plus the order's shipping cost? BL can't know what part of
the agreed-upon refund amount is for shipping. It will likely refund too much
of its tax collection and not enough from the seller's pocket.
(This is not a hypothetical situation - if we can't fulfill something from
an order and it is the most important or most valuable part, we could agree to
refund part+shipping.)
Niek.
|
In other online marketplace the refund form lets you refund pieces, shipping
or credit...
|
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| Author: | Greenbutterfly | | Posted: | Apr 4, 2021 04:13 | | Subject: | Re: Wanted list uploads blocked by custom parts | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Greenbutterfly writes:
| | I have a very, very large model of a cathedral. I originally designed it in LDD
18 years ago and now updating it in stud.io.
The cathedral has a balcony with railings. I've created a couple of custom
parts for the railings to fit around the columns... the presence of these railings
in my IO file blocks the upload to my wanted list because they are not genuine
parts available through BL.
I'd like to see those parts ignored... or at least an option to do so.
I know there's the workaround of going through the IO file and deleting them
to upload. But my file has over 46000 parts, these custom parts are embedded
several layers deep in multiple sub-sub-sub-models... which means they're
difficult to find because stud.io doesn't have a fully function find-replace
mechanism (I and plenty of others have requested it, and requested that it work
with sub-models as well as main model).
This is still a work in progress, so I'm not really wanting to delete them
because re-instating them is going to be a pain. Plus with the size of the model
stud.io doesn't behave quite as it should anyway because of all the memory
leaks in it (which is going to affect any attempt to copy-paste the file then
delete the custom parts in the copy)...
PS. I'm sure I've requested this before, but for the life of me cannot
find it. stud.io isn't the only thing with memory leaks 
|
For the record, I've found a way around this... but it feels a little clunky.
1. Export from stud.io in Wanted List XML format. This exports only standard
Lego parts.
2. Open the exported XML in a text editor. Select all and copy to the clipboard
or equivalent.
3. In BL, go to "Upload" in the "Want" menu, and select the wanted list from
the drop down.
4. Paste the XML text into the appropriate window and click the button to verify.
5. Proceed through verification as normal.
|
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| Author: | Greenbutterfly | | Posted: | Apr 4, 2021 00:48 | | Subject: | Wanted list uploads blocked by custom parts | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| I have a very, very large model of a cathedral. I originally designed it in LDD
18 years ago and now updating it in stud.io.
The cathedral has a balcony with railings. I've created a couple of custom
parts for the railings to fit around the columns... the presence of these railings
in my IO file blocks the upload to my wanted list because they are not genuine
parts available through BL.
I'd like to see those parts ignored... or at least an option to do so.
I know there's the workaround of going through the IO file and deleting them
to upload. But my file has over 46000 parts, these custom parts are embedded
several layers deep in multiple sub-sub-sub-models... which means they're
difficult to find because stud.io doesn't have a fully function find-replace
mechanism (I and plenty of others have requested it, and requested that it work
with sub-models as well as main model).
This is still a work in progress, so I'm not really wanting to delete them
because re-instating them is going to be a pain. Plus with the size of the model
stud.io doesn't behave quite as it should anyway because of all the memory
leaks in it (which is going to affect any attempt to copy-paste the file then
delete the custom parts in the copy)...
PS. I'm sure I've requested this before, but for the life of me cannot
find it. stud.io isn't the only thing with memory leaks
|
|
| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Apr 4, 2021 00:46 | | Subject: | Re: Add tax inclusive/exempt option on refund | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
| | Had a thought about the previous discussion where it is quite confusing currently
for processing refunds for US states that have collected sales tax. As it stands,
the refund box has us enter an amount, and then below it calculates the amount
that will come from the seller/PayPal, and the amount from the taxes BrickLink
collected, so a seller has to know the rate of tax for the state of the buyer
and also include it in the total.
|
Which is different from the exemption issue. The real important question about
this is, who determines that a buyer is exempt, the seller or BL. From my perspective
it would be BL that processes the buyer's exemption certificate (as it would
cover all sellers shipping to that buyer).
| | Suggestion:
-Beside the box where you enter the refund amount, include a "tax inclusive"
and "tax exclusive" radio button where the seller can select it.
This would allow sellers to not have to know the rate of state for the state
and manually calculate it by selecting "tax exclusive", meaning the calculation
below will take that amount, and ADD tax to the total (not as a % of the total
the seller put in).
|
Seller's will not know, particularly when the tax rate varies by jurisdiction
within a state. Florida has a statewide base rate of 6%, but a county optional
add-on of 0%-1.5%. So the rate may vary depending on the specific address within
the state. The rate can more likely be retrieved by the service that BL is using
to pull up this information.
| | But this also allows what Niek (qwertyboy) had suggested where if you want to
give a higher total amount, you can check tax inclusive so it'll act the
way that it's currently programmed.
|
Nita Rae
|
By tax exclusive, I wasn't referring to any kind of tax exemption. Tax exclusive
when referring to calculators like this means that the total you have entered
does not include the sales tax. This is how sellers want it to operate (based
on discussions), where the amount we enter is tax exclusive, so the calculation
below it will add the tax automatically without the seller having to calculate
it (since we can't easily know what the rates are).
Tax inclusive is for when a seller is doing an amount (usually) above and beyond
just a direct refund of a part. To clarify, how it works right now by default
is this method - tax inclusive. When you enter an amount, the calculator believes
that you already included the sales tax, and it's doing the breakdown of
which part of that refund is sales tax, and what is the amount for the item(s)
itself.
|
... and to make things even more complex - I believe some states have taxes on
shipping as well, and others don't. What if you agree to refund an item from
the order plus the order's shipping cost? BL can't know what part of
the agreed-upon refund amount is for shipping. It will likely refund too much
of its tax collection and not enough from the seller's pocket.
(This is not a hypothetical situation - if we can't fulfill something from
an order and it is the most important or most valuable part, we could agree to
refund part+shipping.)
Niek.
|
There can be only one party responsible for tax/vat and that is the seller. So..
if BrickLink is taking on the burden of tax/vat and be liable for it, there can
only be one conclusion: BrickLink is the seller. Hence, BrickLink does the sale,
the invoicing, the tax/vat, the refund, etc. (And takes care of the not hypothetical
situation described above.)
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Apr 4, 2021 00:14 | | Subject: | Re: Add tax inclusive/exempt option on refund | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
| | Had a thought about the previous discussion where it is quite confusing currently
for processing refunds for US states that have collected sales tax. As it stands,
the refund box has us enter an amount, and then below it calculates the amount
that will come from the seller/PayPal, and the amount from the taxes BrickLink
collected, so a seller has to know the rate of tax for the state of the buyer
and also include it in the total.
|
Which is different from the exemption issue. The real important question about
this is, who determines that a buyer is exempt, the seller or BL. From my perspective
it would be BL that processes the buyer's exemption certificate (as it would
cover all sellers shipping to that buyer).
| | Suggestion:
-Beside the box where you enter the refund amount, include a "tax inclusive"
and "tax exclusive" radio button where the seller can select it.
This would allow sellers to not have to know the rate of state for the state
and manually calculate it by selecting "tax exclusive", meaning the calculation
below will take that amount, and ADD tax to the total (not as a % of the total
the seller put in).
|
Seller's will not know, particularly when the tax rate varies by jurisdiction
within a state. Florida has a statewide base rate of 6%, but a county optional
add-on of 0%-1.5%. So the rate may vary depending on the specific address within
the state. The rate can more likely be retrieved by the service that BL is using
to pull up this information.
| | But this also allows what Niek (qwertyboy) had suggested where if you want to
give a higher total amount, you can check tax inclusive so it'll act the
way that it's currently programmed.
|
Nita Rae
|
By tax exclusive, I wasn't referring to any kind of tax exemption. Tax exclusive
when referring to calculators like this means that the total you have entered
does not include the sales tax. This is how sellers want it to operate (based
on discussions), where the amount we enter is tax exclusive, so the calculation
below it will add the tax automatically without the seller having to calculate
it (since we can't easily know what the rates are).
Tax inclusive is for when a seller is doing an amount (usually) above and beyond
just a direct refund of a part. To clarify, how it works right now by default
is this method - tax inclusive. When you enter an amount, the calculator believes
that you already included the sales tax, and it's doing the breakdown of
which part of that refund is sales tax, and what is the amount for the item(s)
itself.
|
... and to make things even more complex - I believe some states have taxes on
shipping as well, and others don't. What if you agree to refund an item from
the order plus the order's shipping cost? BL can't know what part of
the agreed-upon refund amount is for shipping. It will likely refund too much
of its tax collection and not enough from the seller's pocket.
(This is not a hypothetical situation - if we can't fulfill something from
an order and it is the most important or most valuable part, we could agree to
refund part+shipping.)
Niek.
|
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