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 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 17:07
 Subject: Re: Adjusting Colour Names such as Bluish Grey?
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  
  
Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

How about we rename Light Bluish Gray to Light Grey, and retain the "A" for the
older color:

Light Gray (1970s through 2003)
Light Grey (2004 though the present)

That would be hilarious! And terrible.

We could call retired colors 'colours' too. It would be a theme.

The only Greys on BrickLink are Gandalf and Phoenix.
Jen
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 16:53
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  How about we rename Light Bluish Gray to Light Grey, and retain the "A" for the
older color:

Light Gray (1970s through 2003)
Light Grey (2004 though the present)

I have a hard enough time telling them apart as it is...
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 16:47
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  I am not trying to stir up bad feelings or cause trouble, but the reality
is that if we change our names to suit some users, we are causing problems for
others. It's like BrickLink's XP wanted to dumb down our catalog structure
so that newbies have less trouble. What they ended up with was a mess! There's
a balance and I think much of what we have built here is good for most of us
and occasionally confusing for new people.

I think the OP should also consider the irony in Jennifer not thinking this is
a good idea, having been involved in the last change AND having th store name
“OLD GREY BRICKS”.

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

How about we rename Light Bluish Gray to Light Grey, and retain the "A" for the
older color:

Light Gray (1970s through 2003)
Light Grey (2004 though the present)

If memory serves me correct, there was some lack of continuity in the names of
the original greys, back in the first 12 or 24 months of BL. I think they started
one way, and got flipped to the other spelling.

Then bluish arrived, and kicked the cart over big time (i.e. a significant group
of early adopters of BL were miffed at the change of the greys, and made their
feelings known … vociferously)

Nita Rae
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 16:34
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  I am not trying to stir up bad feelings or cause trouble, but the reality
is that if we change our names to suit some users, we are causing problems for
others. It's like BrickLink's XP wanted to dumb down our catalog structure
so that newbies have less trouble. What they ended up with was a mess! There's
a balance and I think much of what we have built here is good for most of us
and occasionally confusing for new people.

I think the OP should also consider the irony in Jennifer not thinking this is
a good idea, having been involved in the last change AND having th store name
“OLD GREY BRICKS”.

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

How about we rename Light Bluish Gray to Light Grey, and retain the "A" for the
older color:

Light Gray (1970s through 2003)
Light Grey (2004 though the present)
 Author: LegoLDK View Messages Posted By LegoLDK
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 16:29
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, LegoLDK writes:
  
  Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

By your own way you mean in proper English english?

Yes! For certain, I read a lot more books by English authors than any other.
I have no idea where else my preference may have originated. So, I blame Miss
Austen et al.

Jen



Miss Austen does tell a good tale. Why hasn’t Lego done a Pride & Prejudice set?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 15:46
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In Suggestions, LegoLDK writes:
  
  Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

By your own way you mean in proper English english?

Isn’t “English English” the proper English English way to write “English English”?
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 15:35
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In Suggestions, LegoLDK writes:
  
  Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

By your own way you mean in proper English english?

Yes! For certain, I read a lot more books by English authors than any other.
I have no idea where else my preference may have originated. So, I blame Miss
Austen et al.

Jen
 Author: brickerking View Messages Posted By brickerking
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 15:10
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In Suggestions, LegoLDK writes:
  Love it. I particularly liked the “ if someone’s name is Grey you shouldn’t change
it to Gray because you think it’s spelt incorrectly” tip.

That writer is committing name-ism. If I think your name is Gray, and you think
it's Grey, who are you to tell me what I should think. I'll speak my
truth, thank you very much.
 Author: LegoLDK View Messages Posted By LegoLDK
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 15:02
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In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, LegoLDK writes:
  
  Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

By your own way you mean in proper English English?

Pip pip, cheerio: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/gray-grey/

Love it. I particularly liked the “ if someone’s name is Grey you shouldn’t change
it to Gray because you think it’s spelt incorrectly” tip.
 Author: brickerking View Messages Posted By brickerking
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 14:33
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In Suggestions, LegoLDK writes:
  
  Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

By your own way you mean in proper English English?

Pip pip, cheerio: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/gray-grey/
 Author: LegoLDK View Messages Posted By LegoLDK
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 14:25
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  Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen

By your own way you mean in proper English english?
 Author: DeLuca View Messages Posted By DeLuca
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 11:36
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, TheOneDavid writes:
  My number of Wanted Lists has expanded into chaos. I'm working on a big project
and I would really appreciate sublists (or superlists) in the Wanted List section.
What I mean is basically the possibility to have a new list inside of a Wanted
List. For example a regular Wanted List containing a load of items AND another
list called "extra parts". Or a Wanted List called "castle" containing my castle
related lists. I hope you get the idea. Please make this happen!!

Can't you just use multiple lists to do almost the same thing, with systematic
naming.

So for example call them

Castle Main Keep
Castle Main Keep extra parts
Castle Hideout cave
Castle Forest shelter
Castle Minifigs


You can, but the downside is that if you use the same part in the same
colour across multiple lists, you will not be able to merge the lists into a
single one when purchasing the parts. The only way around this is to put the
entire quantity of a desired part into one list (leaving it out of the
others), but this would quickly become difficult-to-impossible in the case of
a large project that (presumably) reuses many of the same pieces. 😕
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 11:30
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  Well as someone who buys and sells accross multiple platforms I can tell you
it creates immense confusion not just for me but no doubt my customers also.
To start with should I label my own stocks/inventory as per Legos Colour Names
(Medium Stone Grey) or Bricklinks (Light Bluish Grey) and then how should
I list them for sale on other sites like ebay? should I just play it safe and
call it (Light Grey) and hope that an inexpereinced parent buying for kids can
make sense of it all or should I be concerned that an expereinced buyer is going
to quiz me on the fact that I've sold them Light Bluish grey instead of the
described Light Grey? Either way it seems I already have three different reference
names in use for the same colour depending on where I'm buying or where I'm
selling, who I'm picking for or how I'm labelling my inverntory!? Not
confusing enough?

I think this paragraph helps us understand more of why you are requesting this
colour name change. I assume you want more uniformity in colour names that will
spread to other platforms that you sell lego on like eBay. Frankly, I don't
think that's a valid reason to be pushing this change on BL. BL colour designations
were designed for reselling, not LEGO brand continuity. If you are using eBay,
then you are selling to the wild west since they are obviously not lego specific.
People will buy grey megabloks as much as grey lego on eBay, so why should that
concern BL users or the way BL labels colours?

Because I have Bricklink users that shop with me on all three platforms be that
ebay, BL or BO and is that so surprising? Either way it does'nt surprise
me that a minor point I make gets inflated on the forum as this huge Single reason
I'm seeking to have sensible colour names. If you read my other posts in
this thread then you may start to understand my reasoning more clearly?

I don't see how it is in BrickLink's best interest to make it easier
to sell on other websites. We want both buyers and sellers to come to OUR website
with their business.

The color names we have are there because they describe the color for what it
is. The new grays definitely have a bluish tint, and the new brown has a lot
of red in it. There is something written about the history here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2500

Russell it would be naive to assume sellers here don't sell on other platforms?
Remember sellers that sell elsewhere probably also buy stocks here besides which
if I predominiently already make most of my sales elsewhere you could use that
same train of thought to make it easier for me or atleast encourage me to sell
more here on Bricklink?

also with regards to the colour definitions at what point do you have to go back
to using the basic colour names such as Ligth grey and Dark Grey again? because
if Lego do indeed keep releasing new shades for all colours there is only so
many times you can keep using terms like reddish or bluish to describe what people
see as a simple light or dark shades of greys or browns and there will come a
point when colours need to be defined in their simple forms again! I'm only
pointing out the inevitable where it will become increasingly difficult to define
colours using meaningful descriptions when all the good sensible colour names
have been used already to accomodate discontinued colours?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 11:12
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In Suggestions, TheOneDavid writes:
  My number of Wanted Lists has expanded into chaos. I'm working on a big project
and I would really appreciate sublists (or superlists) in the Wanted List section.
What I mean is basically the possibility to have a new list inside of a Wanted
List. For example a regular Wanted List containing a load of items AND another
list called "extra parts". Or a Wanted List called "castle" containing my castle
related lists. I hope you get the idea. Please make this happen!!

Can't you just use multiple lists to do almost the same thing, with systematic
naming.

So for example call them

Castle Main Keep
Castle Main Keep extra parts
Castle Hideout cave
Castle Forest shelter
Castle Minifigs
 Author: brickerking View Messages Posted By brickerking
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 11:10
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  Well as someone who buys and sells accross multiple platforms I can tell you
it creates immense confusion not just for me but no doubt my customers also.
To start with should I label my own stocks/inventory as per Legos Colour Names
(Medium Stone Grey) or Bricklinks (Light Bluish Grey) and then how should
I list them for sale on other sites like ebay? should I just play it safe and
call it (Light Grey) and hope that an inexpereinced parent buying for kids can
make sense of it all or should I be concerned that an expereinced buyer is going
to quiz me on the fact that I've sold them Light Bluish grey instead of the
described Light Grey? Either way it seems I already have three different reference
names in use for the same colour depending on where I'm buying or where I'm
selling, who I'm picking for or how I'm labelling my inverntory!? Not
confusing enough?

I think this paragraph helps us understand more of why you are requesting this
colour name change. I assume you want more uniformity in colour names that will
spread to other platforms that you sell lego on like eBay. Frankly, I don't
think that's a valid reason to be pushing this change on BL. BL colour designations

  
  were designed for reselling, not LEGO brand continuity. If you are using eBay,
then you are selling to the wild west since they are obviously not lego specific.
People will buy grey megabloks as much as grey lego on eBay, so why should that
concern BL users or the way BL labels colours?

Because I have Bricklink users that shop with me on all three platforms be that
ebay, BL or BO and is that so surprising? Either way it does'nt surprise
me that a minor point I make gets inflated on the forum as this huge Single reason
I'm seeking to have sensible colour names. If you read my other posts in
this thread then you may start to understand my reasoning more clearly?

Just to add you cant start here:-

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1253376

OK if you say so.

Sorry, perhaps I aimed my reply a little too personally. It's great to have
a discussion about these things. What I mean is that, in general, I don't
think we need to think about LEGO brand continuity in our colour change discussion.
Yes, BL is part of LEGO, but at arms length. I think that's a good thing.
BL has an established cataloging system that was built with the goal of reselling
and maybe collecting in mind. I understand you are trying to make a change here
to cater to new users who might get confused with the naming of gray bricks.
I submit to you that you will run into a learning curve in any hobby. No matter
what you call the colour, there will be confusion just because of the fact that
there are two different kinds of gray colours that are very similar. I mean seriously,
I have use a special light to tell them apart. However, buyers want LG bricks
just as much as LBG bricks to complete an old set or just for variety. Both colours
are in demand.

I don't think changing the name would solve the problem. Education might
be the better way to go. If BL had more of a user friendly blog section they
could educate the community on certain aspects of the LEGO hobby like the difference
between LG and LBG. That would be a great marketing strategy, but I think they
have their hands full right now and the foreseeable future with... taxes.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 11:07
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  Well as someone who buys and sells accross multiple platforms I can tell you
it creates immense confusion not just for me but no doubt my customers also.
To start with should I label my own stocks/inventory as per Legos Colour Names
(Medium Stone Grey) or Bricklinks (Light Bluish Grey) and then how should
I list them for sale on other sites like ebay? should I just play it safe and
call it (Light Grey) and hope that an inexpereinced parent buying for kids can
make sense of it all or should I be concerned that an expereinced buyer is going
to quiz me on the fact that I've sold them Light Bluish grey instead of the
described Light Grey? Either way it seems I already have three different reference
names in use for the same colour depending on where I'm buying or where I'm
selling, who I'm picking for or how I'm labelling my inverntory!? Not
confusing enough?

I think this paragraph helps us understand more of why you are requesting this
colour name change. I assume you want more uniformity in colour names that will
spread to other platforms that you sell lego on like eBay. Frankly, I don't
think that's a valid reason to be pushing this change on BL. BL colour designations
were designed for reselling, not LEGO brand continuity. If you are using eBay,
then you are selling to the wild west since they are obviously not lego specific.
People will buy grey megabloks as much as grey lego on eBay, so why should that
concern BL users or the way BL labels colours?

Because I have Bricklink users that shop with me on all three platforms be that
ebay, BL or BO and is that so surprising? Either way it does'nt surprise
me that a minor point I make gets inflated on the forum as this huge Single reason
I'm seeking to have sensible colour names. If you read my other posts in
this thread then you may start to understand my reasoning more clearly?

I don't see how it is in BrickLink's best interest to make it easier
to sell on other websites. We want both buyers and sellers to come to OUR website
with their business.

The color names we have are there because they describe the color for what it
is. The new grays definitely have a bluish tint, and the new brown has a lot
of red in it. There is something written about the history here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2500

Russell it would be naive to assume sellers here don't sell on other platforms?
Remember sellers that sell elsewhere probably also buy stocks here besides which
if I predominiently already make most of my sales elsewhere you could use that
same train of thought to make it easier for me or atleast encourage me to sell
more here on Bricklink?
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 10:55
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  Well as someone who buys and sells accross multiple platforms I can tell you
it creates immense confusion not just for me but no doubt my customers also.
To start with should I label my own stocks/inventory as per Legos Colour Names
(Medium Stone Grey) or Bricklinks (Light Bluish Grey) and then how should
I list them for sale on other sites like ebay? should I just play it safe and
call it (Light Grey) and hope that an inexpereinced parent buying for kids can
make sense of it all or should I be concerned that an expereinced buyer is going
to quiz me on the fact that I've sold them Light Bluish grey instead of the
described Light Grey? Either way it seems I already have three different reference
names in use for the same colour depending on where I'm buying or where I'm
selling, who I'm picking for or how I'm labelling my inverntory!? Not
confusing enough?

I think this paragraph helps us understand more of why you are requesting this
colour name change. I assume you want more uniformity in colour names that will
spread to other platforms that you sell lego on like eBay. Frankly, I don't
think that's a valid reason to be pushing this change on BL. BL colour designations
were designed for reselling, not LEGO brand continuity. If you are using eBay,
then you are selling to the wild west since they are obviously not lego specific.
People will buy grey megabloks as much as grey lego on eBay, so why should that
concern BL users or the way BL labels colours?

Because I have Bricklink users that shop with me on all three platforms be that
ebay, BL or BO and is that so surprising? Either way it does'nt surprise
me that a minor point I make gets inflated on the forum as this huge Single reason
I'm seeking to have sensible colour names. If you read my other posts in
this thread then you may start to understand my reasoning more clearly?

I don't see how it is in BrickLink's best interest to make it easier
to sell on other websites. We want both buyers and sellers to come to OUR website
with their business.

The color names we have are there because they describe the color for what it
is. The new grays definitely have a bluish tint, and the new brown has a lot
of red in it. There is something written about the history here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2500
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 10:50
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  Well as someone who buys and sells accross multiple platforms I can tell you
it creates immense confusion not just for me but no doubt my customers also.
To start with should I label my own stocks/inventory as per Legos Colour Names
(Medium Stone Grey) or Bricklinks (Light Bluish Grey) and then how should
I list them for sale on other sites like ebay? should I just play it safe and
call it (Light Grey) and hope that an inexpereinced parent buying for kids can
make sense of it all or should I be concerned that an expereinced buyer is going
to quiz me on the fact that I've sold them Light Bluish grey instead of the
described Light Grey? Either way it seems I already have three different reference
names in use for the same colour depending on where I'm buying or where I'm
selling, who I'm picking for or how I'm labelling my inverntory!? Not
confusing enough?

I think this paragraph helps us understand more of why you are requesting this
colour name change. I assume you want more uniformity in colour names that will
spread to other platforms that you sell lego on like eBay. Frankly, I don't
think that's a valid reason to be pushing this change on BL. BL colour designations

  
  were designed for reselling, not LEGO brand continuity. If you are using eBay,
then you are selling to the wild west since they are obviously not lego specific.
People will buy grey megabloks as much as grey lego on eBay, so why should that
concern BL users or the way BL labels colours?

Because I have Bricklink users that shop with me on all three platforms be that
ebay, BL or BO and is that so surprising? Either way it does'nt surprise
me that a minor point I make gets inflated on the forum as this huge Single reason
I'm seeking to have sensible colour names. If you read my other posts in
this thread then you may start to understand my reasoning more clearly?

Just to add you cant start here:-

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1253376
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 10:42
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In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  Well as someone who buys and sells accross multiple platforms I can tell you
it creates immense confusion not just for me but no doubt my customers also.
To start with should I label my own stocks/inventory as per Legos Colour Names
(Medium Stone Grey) or Bricklinks (Light Bluish Grey) and then how should
I list them for sale on other sites like ebay? should I just play it safe and
call it (Light Grey) and hope that an inexpereinced parent buying for kids can
make sense of it all or should I be concerned that an expereinced buyer is going
to quiz me on the fact that I've sold them Light Bluish grey instead of the
described Light Grey? Either way it seems I already have three different reference
names in use for the same colour depending on where I'm buying or where I'm
selling, who I'm picking for or how I'm labelling my inverntory!? Not
confusing enough?

I think this paragraph helps us understand more of why you are requesting this
colour name change. I assume you want more uniformity in colour names that will
spread to other platforms that you sell lego on like eBay. Frankly, I don't
think that's a valid reason to be pushing this change on BL. BL colour designations
were designed for reselling, not LEGO brand continuity. If you are using eBay,
then you are selling to the wild west since they are obviously not lego specific.
People will buy grey megabloks as much as grey lego on eBay, so why should that
concern BL users or the way BL labels colours?

Because I have Bricklink users that shop with me on all three platforms be that
ebay, BL or BO and is that so surprising? Either way it does'nt surprise
me that a minor point I make gets inflated on the forum as this huge Single reason
I'm seeking to have sensible colour names. If you read my other posts in
this thread then you may start to understand my reasoning more clearly?
 Author: ThisOneBrick View Messages Posted By ThisOneBrick
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 10:39
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My number of Wanted Lists has expanded into chaos. I'm working on a big project
and I would really appreciate sublists (or superlists) in the Wanted List section.
What I mean is basically the possibility to have a new list inside of a Wanted
List. For example a regular Wanted List containing a load of items AND another
list called "extra parts". Or a Wanted List called "castle" containing my castle
related lists. I hope you get the idea. Please make this happen!!
 Author: brickerking View Messages Posted By brickerking
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 10:33
 Subject: Re: Adjusting Colour Names such as Bluish Grey?
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  Well as someone who buys and sells accross multiple platforms I can tell you
it creates immense confusion not just for me but no doubt my customers also.
To start with should I label my own stocks/inventory as per Legos Colour Names
(Medium Stone Grey) or Bricklinks (Light Bluish Grey) and then how should
I list them for sale on other sites like ebay? should I just play it safe and
call it (Light Grey) and hope that an inexpereinced parent buying for kids can
make sense of it all or should I be concerned that an expereinced buyer is going
to quiz me on the fact that I've sold them Light Bluish grey instead of the
described Light Grey? Either way it seems I already have three different reference
names in use for the same colour depending on where I'm buying or where I'm
selling, who I'm picking for or how I'm labelling my inverntory!? Not
confusing enough?

I think this paragraph helps us understand more of why you are requesting this
colour name change. I assume you want more uniformity in colour names that will
spread to other platforms that you sell lego on like eBay. Frankly, I don't
think that's a valid reason to be pushing this change on BL. BL colour designations
were designed for reselling, not LEGO brand continuity. If you are using eBay,
then you are selling to the wild west since they are obviously not lego specific.
People will buy grey megabloks as much as grey lego on eBay, so why should that
concern BL users or the way BL labels colours?
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 10:06
 Subject: Re: Adjusting Colour Names such as Bluish Grey?
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In Suggestions, tec writes:
  In conclusion I was not thinking enough, i'm sorry I haven't advanced
any good contributions

Don't worry neither have I with my original post and subsequent responses
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 09:53
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In Suggestions, tec writes:
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For the names-switch I was thinking of NOT changing db and the like, just rewrite
words in the page when it is showed to us. No need to change the engine. Just
like sites in multiple languages, they seem to replace text with other text,
not changing what the site does.

Where do you think they get the translations from?

Translations are stored somewhere and retrieved according to the “locale” (language
and other local conventions).
For applications, the texts are replaced before being written on the screen (not
word for word, entire texts).  For websites, it’s generally the entire pages
that are rewritten (or they have a generator or engine that works the same way
as applications).  But the translations need to be somewhere.
And for BL’s catalogue, that somewhere would be the database.

And then, the engine (processing) would need to be changed too, to make the replacements.

Either
— you replace whole texts (for instance, the description of 970c85 “Hips and
Dark Bluish Gray Legs” is replaced by “Hips and Dark Stone Grey Legs”), and then
you need to store two descriptions for every part with colour names in the description,
— or you replace only the colour names (that is, every time you see “Dark Bluish
Gray” you write “Dark Stone Grey”), and then you need a more complicated mechanism
to find & replace the names where needed (and not where not needed, e.g.: “Dark
Tan” shouldn’t be replaced with “Dark Brick Yellow” ).


  In conclusion I was not thinking enough, i'm sorry I haven't advanced
any good contributions

No, no, it’s how brainstorming works: one has an idea, others critisize it. 
It’s not a criticism on the one who had the idea
The same way there’s no stupid questions, there’s no stupid ideas.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 09:03
 Subject: Re: Adjusting Colour Names such as Bluish Grey?
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In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  I am not trying to stir up bad feelings or cause trouble, but the reality
is that if we change our names to suit some users, we are causing problems for
others. It's like BrickLink's XP wanted to dumb down our catalog structure
so that newbies have less trouble. What they ended up with was a mess! There's
a balance and I think much of what we have built here is good for most of us
and occasionally confusing for new people.

I think the OP should also consider the irony in Jennifer not thinking this is
a good idea, having been involved in the last change AND having th store name
“OLD GREY BRICKS”.

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

Ha, ha! You got me. And, I spell the Gray my own way too. Nothing but trouble
here.

Jen
 Author: brickerking View Messages Posted By brickerking
 Posted: Feb 17, 2021 08:13
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  I am not trying to stir up bad feelings or cause trouble, but the reality
is that if we change our names to suit some users, we are causing problems for
others. It's like BrickLink's XP wanted to dumb down our catalog structure
so that newbies have less trouble. What they ended up with was a mess! There's
a balance and I think much of what we have built here is good for most of us
and occasionally confusing for new people.

I think the OP should also consider the irony in Jennifer not thinking this is
a good idea, having been involved in the last change AND having th store name
“OLD GREY BRICKS”.

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

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