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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

In Suggestions, TBS writes:

Here is SOME more silly Lego-Colour-Names:

Sand Yellow/Dark Tan
Warm Gold/Pearl Gold
Bright Bluish Green/Dark Turquoise
Earth Blue/Dark Blue
Flame Yellowish Orange/Bright Light Orange
Bright Orange/Orange
Brick Yellow/Tan

When it comes to User-friendly, one should skip this idea already.

To understand user friendly you have to think like a newbie besides whilst you
may hate all those colour names at least they are official colour names

Dark Bluish Grey is certainly no better and yet its not even an official Lego
term?

I would'nt mind but I'm pretty much only talking about adjusting the
names of the greys not the entire colour pallete!

To your point, I do still consider myself a newbie. While I joined almost a
year ago, I'm still finding my way around here and getting familiar. That
being said, no matter if you set them to new, old, light, bright or bluish, there
is a learning curve for everyone. If you are getting into the hobby or shopping
for parts or just trying to off load your life's collection, any hobby will
have it's gotcha points. While these two colors may be the ones in question
now, the point of what to call them still would require significant work on both
maintenance and seller to adjust. Is there really that much of a need or more
of a convenience?

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infinibrix

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Feb 16, 2021 17:26

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In Suggestions, TBS writes:

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infinibrix

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Feb 16, 2021 17:07

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In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:

Please do not start changing the existing colour names.

I am not interested in whatever Lego officially calls colours. I just need to
know what Bricklink calls them, so that I can list parts for sale, and purchase
parts on Bricklink. I don't think I am unique in this matter.

As a person living with a form of colour blindness, let me tell you that all
the fancy names that colorists come up with do not help me at all. I just want
to know, "Is that thing basically blue? Or is it red?" Spare me the "August
Sunset", "Sea Foam" and "Dusty Rose" type of labels. What the heck is "azure"
anyway?

Are you sure your not living with regular blindness only if you read my original
post you'd realise that I'm talking about simplifying colour names not
fancying them up?

The only reason to pursue congruence with Lego's system is to make things
simpler. I don't see much evidence that will be the result of tinkering around
with colour names we've all memorized over the past decade or so.

Please. Do Not do it. Just don't.

Author:

infinibrix

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Feb 16, 2021 16:58

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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

I appreciate your response Russell.... As far as the number references go I’m
not familiar with them enough to comment myself but I guess having extra references
that accompany colour names can only be a good thing if it leads to a further
means of colour identification

That said I’m probably more likely to rely on the actual colour name descriptions
but who knows if I start to memorize the number references I may start to rely
on them on a more ongoing basis

Either way what is it about ‘old’ in the colour names that Bricklink doesn’t
like?

That aside the main focus of my attention was about giving the Bluish greys a
more appropriate name as nobody would initially expect these to be catalogued
under bluish grey? And since they are now Legos main staple grey colours and
will probably remain so for long into the foreseeable future it stands to reason
that we should attempt to given them a more appropriate and simple description
of Light/Dark grey Obviously doing this would cause issues with the older existing
greys in the catalog hence the reason I felt the need to try and address this
issue with the 'ol'd tag but to be honest I wouldn’t really care what
we called them be that Yellowed Grey, Dull grey, Storm cloud Grey, because they
are not so widely/commonly used anymore in comparison to the newer established
greys
Also if we managed to change all the flesh colours to nougat it’s not as if it
couldn’t be done if you wanted it to happen?

Author:

LordSkylark

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Feb 16, 2021 16:32

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Can we use both Lego and bricklink color names simultaneously, or the user can
choose an option which to use?

In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

Author:

brickerking

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Feb 16, 2021 16:14

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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

LEGO colour designations and numbers were designed for manufacturing (I assume),
not collection or reselling. Bricklink designations and coding were designed
(I assume) for the collector or reseller. These are two different systems which
may not (and maybe should not) be compatable. I don't think we have to force
a square peg into a round hole.

To the OP, I also don't think light bluish gray is the biggest stumbling
block for new users. Yes, it may be a small learning curve, but certainly not
the first area I would work on to make the site more user friendly. And... it
doesn't bother me as a seller anymore.

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SylvainLS

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Feb 16, 2021 16:12

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In Suggestions, psusaxman2000 writes:

[…]
Just to piggy back off of this, if you switch the ids in the back end, would
that require everyone that uses the API to upload parts to modify all that tools,
calls and what have you? I'm pretty sure that all that hash mapping in the
back end uses the id numbers currently to specify the color so this would be
a hard impact on users adding parts.

Yes, I’m about sure the BL numbers/codes are just the IDs in the database (it
would be surprising if the colours had a separate ID linking to both the “name”
and the “code,” so the “code” is the ID).

Author:

SylvainLS

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Feb 16, 2021 16:09

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In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:

[…]
As a person living with a form of colour blindness, let me tell you that all
the fancy names that colorists come up with do not help me at all. I just want
to know, "Is that thing basically blue? Or is it red?" Spare me the "August
Sunset", "Sea Foam" and "Dusty Rose" type of labels.

One doesn’t need to be colour blind to realize these names are marketting names.
Or rather, maybe your colour blindness made you believe colour names (even “simpler”
ones) had any real objective meaning while they don’t

It’s all arbitrary, historical, and mangled by translations and language evolution.

What the heck is "azure" anyway?

”From Middle English asure, from Old French azur, derived from Arabic لَازَوَرْد‎
(lāzaward, “lapis lazuli”), dropping the l as if it were equivalent to the French
article l'. The Arabic is from Persian لاجورد‎ (lâjvard, “lapis lazuli”),
from the region of Lajward in Turkestan.”
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/azure

So it’s was the name of the region were a stone first (or most) originated.

But no one cares about that anymore, like no one cares “green” is akin to “grow”
(plants grow and plants are green).

Author:

popsicle

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Feb 16, 2021 16:09

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In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:

How do you feel about your next brick color, Dark Turquoise or Bright Bluish
Green?

What the heck is "azure" anyway?

Dark Azure? Well, it's kinda like Tiny-Medium Blue, which I'm sure you're
well familiar with

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psusaxman2000

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Feb 16, 2021 15:55

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