Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | pete_brick | Posted: | May 5, 2020 15:23 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| I never use the online Lego inventories, in fact I wouldn't know where to
find them. What I do is print or photocopy the pages in the set instructions
and use those as my primary list for parts that should be in a set. I augment
that with Brickset and bricklink lists.
The 3D function on briclink is especially helpful.
peter
In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
| In Suggestions, pete_brick writes:
| I expect you have heard about the inaccuracies of part lists before.
Since bricklink is now part of Lego, perhaps the bricklink part lists for sets
cold be compared with the Lego lists and corrected as necessary. I expect most
of this could be done with a computer program although it would be nice if one
could get accurate part lists for all those really old sets that one can find
in a friend's great grandfather's attic.
Thank you.
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I'm really curious which sets you've run into issues with. I've found
that the Bricklink inventories are far more accurate than the actual LEGO inventories.
The issue with official LEGO inventories is that they don't keep track of
part variants at all. In fact, when a part variant goes out of production and
a new one is added, the official inventories are updated to include the new part,
even if that set never could have contained it in the first place (I first ran
across this with the Cafe Corner set). Bricklink keeps track of specific part
and mold differences, for those that want the most accurate information of what
came in a sealed set box.
Unfortunately, LEGO inventories are good for quantity and color, but for the
actual parts that came in a production set, they aren't always accurate.
Josh
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Author: | pete_brick | Posted: | May 5, 2020 15:17 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Next time I have one I will let you know.
In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| In Suggestions, pete_brick writes:
| Using only briclink, Brickset list
I will almost always be short some pieces which I check by going through the
instructions and either matching to the on-page diagram or by completely building
the sets.
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Please share some examples of sets for which the BrickLink inventories do not
match what you found in the set instructions.
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Author: | Heartbricker | Posted: | May 5, 2020 14:53 | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
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The United States has very strict laws regarding content that is shared online
with children, this will complicate BL's legal compliance and if those regulations
are broken because a member on the forum posts an inappropriate comment or publishes
a moc that may be considered violent or inappropriate for kids and each offense
of those regulations carries a steep penalty.
This will make Bricklink's overhead costs much higher and drain resources
from the marketplace.
Nice idea but implementing it doesn't seem realistic or beneficial to a marketplace
platform.
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:54 | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| […]
Before LEGO bought BrickLink I would have said no...
But I can see a point in using Studio (especially now LDD is not supported),
and linking that to a wanted list...
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Danger, danger.
If you let kids upload their digital work in the gallery¹, it will soon be even
messier than it is (or than it was at the beginning or the LDD gallery or any
gallery kids can upload their 3-stacked-bricks creations (yes, that’s condescending
but let’s face it, most kids aren’t Mozart)).
¹ If you want to share a WL, you might want to add a picture of the model with
it, and that’s exactly the same thing as uploading to the gallery.
Besides, what’s the purpose of a WL if it’s not to buy it?
So, your kid uploads a WL (or a MOC) on their teen-account, and you download
/ transfer / share it so that you can buy it from your account.
It’s quicker to let them directly upload a WL in your BL account from Studio.
If they are savvy enough to manage what is proposed, they can understand not
to touch your WLs and to name theirs intelligently.
(Studio can upload a WL directly to your BL account in one click.
What it can’t do is make a XML file of the WL so that you wouldn’t need to let
your kid have your BL credentials. It can do a useless CSV though….)
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:40 | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
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I voted no when you first posted this (not that the site pays any heed whatsoever
at this point in time to suggestions anyway). It's the LEGO Group's
job to market to and interact with children. It's BrickLink's job to
market to and interact with adults. That age separation has worked fairly well
for the last two decades.
| Kids could browse the catalog
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They already can. Anyone can.
| make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
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And once they get used to the platform, they will see how remarkably easy it
is to set up an account and start buying and selling.
| This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
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The primary reason children aren't allowed on here is that they cannot make
legally binding contracts.
The secondary reason is that making the site child-friendly and policing the
interactions between children and strangers on the internet would require more
resources from BrickLink. And seriously, do you really trust BrickLink at this
point to be capable of doing that effectively?
| Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
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There's no reason why she can't use your account to create her wanted
list with your supervision. I really don't think a change from the site
is necessary or desirable on this issue.
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Author: | WoutR | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:26 | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | Viewed: | 56 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
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Before LEGO bought BrickLink I would have said no...
But I can see a point in using Studio (especially now LDD is not supported),
and linking that to a wanted list...
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Author: | BrickAThon | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:17 | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Brick_Qc writes:
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
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Kids on this forum ? Are you crazy ? Unless they have their own forum, no thank
you. I'm sure the admins will love to moderate that.
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Agree with no underage kids in the forum (I recall how that has looked in the
past when they sneak in, LOL).
I also agree with this idea, though - to allow people to make a list for use
that they can publish - not sure how it could best be done, but the idea is solid
in how it could help enhance the ability to bring in new users (adults) to buy,
and kids are super savvy at stuff these days and this could really bolster some
new interest.
My two cents.
Tracy
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Author: | BrickAThon | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:14 | Subject: | Re: Allow invoices in any order status | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, lar writes:
| Do not restrict the ability to send invoices in any order status. The statuses
were implemented for seller convenience and different sellers use different processes.
Further, there are times when I want to send multiple invoices, for example if
the buyer wants to change shipping type. I shouldn't have to fiddle with
the order status repeatedly to get to where I can send an invoice.
This is a recent change, please undo it.
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FULLY AGREED!
Tracy
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Author: | Brick_Qc | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:04 | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
|
Kids on this forum ? Are you crazy ? Unless they have their own forum, no thank
you. I'm sure the admins will love to moderate that.
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Author: | mhortar | Posted: | May 5, 2020 12:47 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, pete_brick writes:
| I expect you have heard about the inaccuracies of part lists before.
Since bricklink is now part of Lego, perhaps the bricklink part lists for sets
cold be compared with the Lego lists and corrected as necessary. I expect most
of this could be done with a computer program although it would be nice if one
could get accurate part lists for all those really old sets that one can find
in a friend's great grandfather's attic.
Thank you.
|
I'm really curious which sets you've run into issues with. I've found
that the Bricklink inventories are far more accurate than the actual LEGO inventories.
The issue with official LEGO inventories is that they don't keep track of
part variants at all. In fact, when a part variant goes out of production and
a new one is added, the official inventories are updated to include the new part,
even if that set never could have contained it in the first place (I first ran
across this with the Cafe Corner set). Bricklink keeps track of specific part
and mold differences, for those that want the most accurate information of what
came in a sealed set box.
Unfortunately, LEGO inventories are good for quantity and color, but for the
actual parts that came in a production set, they aren't always accurate.
Josh
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | May 5, 2020 11:39 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, pete_brick writes:
| It is very rare but once or twice I have needed a part not shown in an instruction inventory.
|
Yes, parts lists in set instructions and printed on set boxes are known to sometimes
include errors. I'm more interested in how BrickLink inventories almost
always steer you wrong. Please provide some examples of this and be specific
about how our inventories are inaccurate.
And no, you've not offended me and I doubt you've offended Randy. But
when you post publicly that our site's inventories are frequently wrong,
then we're going to defend the work we do.
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Author: | pete_brick | Posted: | May 5, 2020 11:32 | Subject: | Re: Set Finder | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Way cool, thanks. I'll check it out.
In Suggestions, Turez writes:
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Author: | pete_brick | Posted: | May 5, 2020 11:29 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 52 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| I make a distinction between what parts are in a set when purchased (new) and
what parts are actually needed when building the set. It is very rare but once
or twice I have needed a part not shown in an instruction inventory.
In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| In Suggestions, pete_brick writes:
| I expect you have heard about the inaccuracies of part lists before.
|
No, not here. Yes, there may be inaccuracies, but we correct them whenever they're
found.
| it would be nice if one could get accurate part lists for all those really old sets that one can find in a friend's great grandfather's attic.
|
We have 15,503 LEGO sets in the BrickLink database, dating back to 1949. Of
those sets, 97.3% have inventories (or parts lists, if you prefer that terminology).
Out of that remaining 2.7% lacking inventories, roughly one fifth are educational
sets and not likely to be found in anyone's attic. If TLG actually does
have a computerized database of inventories prior to 1990ish, then by all means
let's compare.
But our inventories came from what people actually found in LEGO sets. I've
found numerous instances where TLG's data prior to even 2000 is sorely lacking.
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | May 5, 2020 11:28 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, pete_brick writes:
| Using only briclink, Brickset list
I will almost always be short some pieces which I check by going through the
instructions and either matching to the on-page diagram or by completely building
the sets.
|
Please share some examples of sets for which the BrickLink inventories do not
match what you found in the set instructions.
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Author: | pete_brick | Posted: | May 5, 2020 11:25 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Did not mean to offend anyone with my post however I beg to differ. I use Brickset
& bricklink inventories to find parts for sets which is second only to the actual
inventory printed in some set instructions. Using only briclink, Brickset list
I will almost always be short some pieces which I check by going through the
instructions and either matching to the on-page diagram or by completely building
the sets.
Regarding sets without an inventory in the instructions, I agree that bricklink
has the best inventories.
Sets with inventory in the instructions, my experience has not matched what you
describe.
In Suggestions, pete_brick writes:
| I expect you have heard about the inaccuracies of part lists before.
Since bricklink is now part of Lego, perhaps the bricklink part lists for sets
cold be compared with the Lego lists and corrected as necessary. I expect most
of this could be done with a computer program although it would be nice if one
could get accurate part lists for all those really old sets that one can find
in a friend's great grandfather's attic.
Thank you.
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | May 5, 2020 04:33 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | Since bricklink is now part of Lego, perhaps the bricklink part lists for sets
cold be compared with the Lego lists and corrected as necessary.
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I agree. LEGO could correct their inventory lists based on those at Bricklink.
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | May 5, 2020 03:55 | Subject: | Re: Wanted List Sort By Default | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Legoboy_II writes:
| In Suggestions, Kenopolis writes:
| Currently the wanted list "SORT BY" defaults to "Newest."
Could there be a way to remember the last choice?
Or change the default setting for the user?
I prefer to see it in alphabetical order, because it makes it faster to find
what I'm looking for. Currently I have to change it every time, and wait
for the page to reload.
Thanks!
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Always been like that since I became a member last year, it is very annoying.
I've been told you can change that behaviour in "Preferences", can't
find it.
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I believe the one who told you that didn’t understand what you were talking about.
There’s no default sorting option for the WL.
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Author: | toontexas | Posted: | May 4, 2020 21:22 | Subject: | Re: Prevent buyer from setting status as..... | Viewed: | 77 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| Your suggestion was already part of the new order status work that was done,
but there is a bug allowing buyers to do this. This was never intended and will
be corrected at the next deployment.
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Thank you for your quick response.
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Author: | Admin_Russell | Posted: | May 4, 2020 21:21 | Subject: | Re: Prevent buyer from setting status as..... | Viewed: | 101 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, toontexas writes:
| With the recent changes re. the order statuses, is it possible to prevent buyers
from setting an order as Complete BEFORE the seller has set the order as Shipped?
Many sellers follow their own protocols when processing orders, and orders that
show up as Complete even before they've actually been pulled can really throw
a spanner in the works.
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Your suggestion was already part of the new order status work that was done,
but there is a bug allowing buyers to do this. This was never intended and will
be corrected at the next deployment.
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Author: | TallyToyBricks | Posted: | May 4, 2020 21:20 | Subject: | Re: Prevent buyer from setting status as..... | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| 100% agree - seems like a very easy to implement change. |
Author: | toontexas | Posted: | May 4, 2020 21:14 | Subject: | Prevent buyer from setting status as..... | Viewed: | 154 times | Topic: | Suggestions | Status: | Open | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| With the recent changes re. the order statuses, is it possible to prevent buyers
from setting an order as Complete BEFORE the seller has set the order as Shipped?
Many sellers follow their own protocols when processing orders, and orders that
show up as Complete even before they've actually been pulled can really throw
a spanner in the works.
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Author: | mnementh | Posted: | May 4, 2020 21:12 | Subject: | Re: Allow invoices in any order status | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, lar writes:
| Do not restrict the ability to send invoices in any order status. The statuses
were implemented for seller convenience and different sellers use different processes.
Further, there are times when I want to send multiple invoices, for example if
the buyer wants to change shipping type. I shouldn't have to fiddle with
the order status repeatedly to get to where I can send an invoice.
This is a recent change, please undo it.
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I send reminder invoices out when a buyer hasn't paid after a week. Today
I had to reset these orders back to processing to be able to do so. This should
not be necessary.
Troy
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Author: | Legoboy_II | Posted: | May 4, 2020 19:34 | Subject: | Re: Wanted List Sort By Default | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Kenopolis writes:
| Currently the wanted list "SORT BY" defaults to "Newest."
Could there be a way to remember the last choice?
Or change the default setting for the user?
I prefer to see it in alphabetical order, because it makes it faster to find
what I'm looking for. Currently I have to change it every time, and wait
for the page to reload.
Thanks!
|
Always been like that since I became a member last year, it is very annoying.
I've been told you can change that behaviour in "Preferences", can't
find it.
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | May 4, 2020 19:20 | Subject: | Re: Part Lists | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, pete_brick writes:
| I expect you have heard about the inaccuracies of part lists before.
|
No, not here. Yes, there may be inaccuracies, but we correct them whenever they're
found.
| it would be nice if one could get accurate part lists for all those really old sets that one can find in a friend's great grandfather's attic.
|
We have 15,503 LEGO sets in the BrickLink database, dating back to 1949. Of
those sets, 97.3% have inventories (or parts lists, if you prefer that terminology).
Out of that remaining 2.7% lacking inventories, roughly one fifth are educational
sets and not likely to be found in anyone's attic. If TLG actually does
have a computerized database of inventories prior to 1990ish, then by all means
let's compare.
But our inventories came from what people actually found in LEGO sets. I've
found numerous instances where TLG's data prior to even 2000 is sorely lacking.
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Author: | Legoboy_II | Posted: | May 4, 2020 19:14 | Subject: | Re: Make status change more flexible again | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| Hi,
today I received payment for two orders in "ready" status. So I went packing
them and after that I drove them to the post office right away. Upon my return
I wanted to set these orders directly to shipped. - Not possible - had to set
them to packed first, save, and then to shipped and save again. Just a minor
issue compared to other ones already mentioned but still annoying.
The orders would have been in "packed" for less than 15 minutes. Why make this
mandantory?
Jan
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