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 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jan 2, 2022 02:21
 Subject: Re: Building Techniques - Pieces 4070 and 4085a
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In Feedback, Limunar22 writes:
  Hello Bricklink Community !

I have a technical question regarding certain building techniques that I am unfamiliar
with, and I was wondering if someone could please help me out.

The instructions to a SW Tie Defender MOC tell me to insert a 1 x 1 plate with
thin O clip into the back of a 1 x 1 modified headlight brick (parts 4085a and
4070, respectively). I have a screenshot of the steps attached below.

I personally have never thought to use this technique, but the idea is amazing.
It lowers the top of the clip half a plate thickness relative to the top of the
headlight brick, which can yield greater detail and greater precision in elevation.

However, when I found the pieces in my own collection and replicated the build,
the clip did not initially fit into the back of the headlight. I had to flex
the clips uncomfortably far to fit them into the headlight and once inside, they
remained flexed. The possible internal stresses on the part worry me greatly
!

Does anyone have any experience with this technique? If so, what are your thoughts
on it? Is there a better alternative I can experiment with?

All your help is greatly appreciated, thank you !

Limunar22

 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
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99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified
also lowers the top studs by half a plate when connected to the back
of the headlights, and so does the headlight
 
Part No: 4070  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
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4070 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
Parts: Brick, Modified
itself when placed on its
back like [p=4070a].
 Author: Limunar22 View Messages Posted By Limunar22
 Posted: Jan 1, 2022 22:55
 Subject: Building Techniques - Pieces 4070 and 4085a
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Hello Bricklink Community !

I have a technical question regarding certain building techniques that I am unfamiliar
with, and I was wondering if someone could please help me out.

The instructions to a SW Tie Defender MOC tell me to insert a 1 x 1 plate with
thin O clip into the back of a 1 x 1 modified headlight brick (parts 4085a and
4070, respectively). I have a screenshot of the steps attached below.

I personally have never thought to use this technique, but the idea is amazing.
It lowers the top of the clip half a plate thickness relative to the top of the
headlight brick, which can yield greater detail and greater precision in elevation.

However, when I found the pieces in my own collection and replicated the build,
the clip did not initially fit into the back of the headlight. I had to flex
the clips uncomfortably far to fit them into the headlight and once inside, they
remained flexed. The possible internal stresses on the part worry me greatly
!

Does anyone have any experience with this technique? If so, what are your thoughts
on it? Is there a better alternative I can experiment with?

All your help is greatly appreciated, thank you !

Limunar22
 
 Author: eileenkeeney View Messages Posted By eileenkeeney
 Posted: Dec 31, 2021 16:55
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

Not in my opinion (whatever that is worth).
Personally, I might leave a neutral depending on the degree of rudeness (which
is very subject to opinion).
I reserve negative for cases of where I am certain I was cheated even after effort
was made to get the seller to make things right.

I have more often avoided buying from a seller due to their responses to feedback
than I have due to actual feedback.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Dec 31, 2021 16:45
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

Let me answer your subject line “Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback" by
posing another question: Is politeness grounds for positive feedback?

Let’s say after receiving two orders, you find one to be substandard albeit
with placating and very polite comms - The other, superb in respect to shipping-packaging-pricing
and product quality, but accompanied by what you consider to be “rude” comms.


What then would be the considered respective feedbacks? An even more trenchant
question to ask oneself: which of the two would you continue buying from?

Personally in looking back, I've spent the largest amount of money over the
years on BL with perhaps one of the rudest I've come across here. Just added
thoughts when pondering all things feedback…

I still think that the “feedback system” will be the last thing that e-commerce
sites end-up conquering with sound solution.

-popsicle
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Dec 30, 2021 19:49
 Subject: Re: 111+777=888 FBs!
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  This is a particular moment I do not want to receive any feedback for a while!

I think I was kind of aware how things would turn out once I receive more feedbacks.

It is unfair and disappointing this buyer, who had ordered from me three times,
have read the store's terms but do not comply with store's terms, buy
cheap instructions, complains (politely) about their condition, and still prefers
to keep the item instead of return and receiving full refund.

As a buyer, I am either happy with item, so I leave positive feedback, or I am
not satisfied, in which case I accept to return and get a full refund.

 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Dec 30, 2021 07:43
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, calebfishn writes:
  In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

No one needs to deal with a truly rude seller. A polite and professional manner
is a required part of customer service. So, yes, I would consider leaving negative
feedback if I was mistreated as a buyer.

Feedback given is not only a message to the seller, it is a message to the community.
I feel this is just like shopping at the local hardware store, etc. If I was
treated in a rude, unreasonable manner by a store owner, you better believe I
would tell my friends about it and suggest they avoid that store.

Very true, but given the seller does'nt care much for their own customer
service they probably don't care enough about whether their feedback remains
in good standing either so whats the point in the buyer jeopardising their own
feedback just as a means of warning others?

Until Bricklink implements a feedback system that protects buyer opinion without
the fear of retaliation then the feedback system will always remain flawed and
unfit for purpose!

My advice to the OP would be to block the store, tell the seller what you think
of their poor service and don't leave any feedback so as not to give them
the satisfaction of jeopardising your own repuation!
 Author: SilentMode View Messages Posted By SilentMode
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 18:27
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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I would leave negative feedback and stoplist them (is that what it's called?),
just as I have with a few people on here as a result of their behaviour.

In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 17:15
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

At the very least, least favourite the store and also stop list them so they
cannot buy from you.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 14:10
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

Anything that particularly shaped your feeling about a transaction is grounds
for your feedback, but negative feedback should come with a specific comment
so other people can judge for themselves whether your experience is likely to
relate to them.
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 12:58
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

No one needs to deal with a truly rude seller. A polite and professional manner
is a required part of customer service. So, yes, I would consider leaving negative
feedback if I was mistreated as a buyer.

Feedback given is not only a message to the seller, it is a message to the community.
I feel this is just like shopping at the local hardware store, etc. If I was
treated in a rude, unreasonable manner by a store owner, you better believe I
would tell my friends about it and suggest they avoid that store.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 11:56
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

It depends ...

One viewpoint is that feedback represents the whole essence of the transaction.

More recently, I'm seeing a trend to where feedback is simply was the buyer
(or seller) happy or unhappy. That type of feedback has external influences,
above and beyond the transaction, but it creeps in.

BL is being a bit less responsive in removing undesired feedback, so take that
into consideration.

I may well receive another negative, and all because a customer is arguing about
the definition of INCOMPLETE. The feedback system here needs serious revision,
and mostly to sort out when non-positive is justified or not.

Nita Rae
 Author: NedsBrickShop View Messages Posted By NedsBrickShop
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 11:45
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I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Dec 28, 2021 19:21
 Subject: Re: 111+777=888 FBs!
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In Feedback, SezaR writes:
  Right now, I have got
111 positive feedbacks as buyer
777=7*111 positive feedbacks as seller

Total:
888= 8*111 positive feedback

This is a particular moment I do not want to receive any feedback for a while!

P.S Fun fact:
i) 111=3*37

ii) 111 + 777 = 1*111 + 7*111= (1+7) * 111 = 8 * 111 (so not entirely a coincidence
that 888 is also combined of one single digit "8")

I really enjoy these "snapshots in time" type parallels. Very cool!
 
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Dec 28, 2021 19:11
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Right now, I have got
111 positive feedbacks as buyer
777=7*111 positive feedbacks as seller

Total:
888= 8*111 positive feedback

This is a particular moment I do not want to receive any feedback for a while!

P.S Fun fact:
i) 111=3*37

ii) 111 + 777 = 1*111 + 7*111= (1+7) * 111 = 8 * 111 (so not entirely a coincidence
that 888 is also combined of one single digit "8")
 
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Dec 21, 2021 12:58
 Subject: Re: Criticism Please!
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😁
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Dec 21, 2021 12:52
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In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  Hi!
I just spent most of the day working on a new interface for my splash page and
was hoping to get some criticism on it. I spent the last several hours spell
checking everything so hopefully that's all good If there's anything
I should add or if something looks messed up on your end. It all helps!
Thanks!
-Jason


https://store.bricklink.com/Nubs_Select&utm_content=globalnav#/splash

There is not mention of free pizza if someone comes and helps you sort!

Lol, jk!

Looks good!
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Dec 21, 2021 12:37
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Thank you! I have now updated it.
 Author: SnarkBricks View Messages Posted By SnarkBricks
 Posted: Dec 21, 2021 12:29
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Put a space between the Thank and you on the last line on the splash page...

Thankyou for taking some time to look at our store!

In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  Hi!
I just spent most of the day working on a new interface for my splash page and
was hoping to get some criticism on it. I spent the last several hours spell
checking everything so hopefully that's all good If there's anything
I should add or if something looks messed up on your end. It all helps!
Thanks!
-Jason


https://store.bricklink.com/Nubs_Select&utm_content=globalnav#/splash
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Dec 16, 2021 21:26
 Subject: Re: Negative feedback back given for NO reason
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In Feedback, jennnifer writes:
  In Feedback, jennnifer writes:
  From the buyer's perspective, the reason is that they don't have their
order.

I would suggest calmly and politely explaining the situation to your buyer. Include
the link to how to change negative feedback.

Unless there was communication from the buyer you have not related here, I don't
see how this can be called extortion.

I know it's frustrating to receive bad feedback, but a positive and apologetic
demeanor might get you a better outcome. You can catch more bees with honey...

Good luck,
Jen


LOL. Flies with honey I meant. Gotta read before I post!

I don't know, I think you might be onto something. By offering the bees
their honey back, you can lure them in for capture before the flies show up
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Dec 16, 2021 19:43
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In Feedback, jennnifer writes:
  From the buyer's perspective, the reason is that they don't have their
order.

I would suggest calmly and politely explaining the situation to your buyer. Include
the link to how to change negative feedback.

Unless there was communication from the buyer you have not related here, I don't
see how this can be called extortion.

I know it's frustrating to receive bad feedback, but a positive and apologetic
demeanor might get you a better outcome. You can catch more bees with honey...

Good luck,
Jen


LOL. Flies with honey I meant. Gotta read before I post!
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 Posted: Dec 16, 2021 19:42
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From the buyer's perspective, the reason is that they don't have their
order.

I would suggest calmly and politely explaining the situation to your buyer. Include
the link to how to change negative feedback.

Unless there was communication from the buyer you have not related here, I don't
see how this can be called extortion.

I know it's frustrating to receive bad feedback, but a positive and apologetic
demeanor might get you a better outcome. You can catch more bees with honey...

Good luck,
Jen


In Feedback, cuddlycj writes:
  Buyer gave negative feedback without contacting me first.

Order was under control of the postal service when this happened.
Didn't allow me to resolve issue!

Has since been :
1.repaid for total order costs!
2. Order was returned to me and I have since posted it back to Buyer!

I feel that I have been extorted due to the negative feedback!

I had at that point NO Negative feedback for being a Seller!

Not Happy!

I have put in request for negative feedback to be removed!
Apparently Rejected but not reason why!
AND No asking me why either!!

On removal of Feedback list says - the following applies:

Seller is attempting feedback extortion AND Not relevant to the order (once
with postal service, we can't do anything about it!)

Who can I message for assistance to solve this PROBLEM!

Thanks Cate
 Author: mgriffin View Messages Posted By mgriffin
 Posted: Dec 16, 2021 16:09
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In Feedback, cuddlycj writes:
  Buyer gave negative feedback without contacting me first.

Order was under control of the postal service when this happened.
Didn't allow me to resolve issue!

Has since been :
1.repaid for total order costs!
2. Order was returned to me and I have since posted it back to Buyer!

I feel that I have been extorted due to the negative feedback!

I had at that point NO Negative feedback for being a Seller!

Not Happy!

I have put in request for negative feedback to be removed!
Apparently Rejected but not reason why!
AND No asking me why either!!

On removal of Feedback list says - the following applies:

Seller is attempting feedback extortion AND Not relevant to the order (once
with postal service, we can't do anything about it!)

Who can I message for assistance to solve this PROBLEM!

Thanks Cate

Dont worry too much about it. Nearly all sellers have unfair neg feedback, forget
about it and move on
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: Dec 16, 2021 10:13
 Subject: Re: Public apology & you sent a msg to my buyer?
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It's sad when people feel the need to do stuff like that with the excuse
of "doing it on someone's behalf", especially without making sure it's
alright first. Busybodies never accomplish anything good.
 Author: WildBricks View Messages Posted By WildBricks
 Posted: Dec 16, 2021 08:34
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Yesterday I posted a question about making a reply to a feedback. I posted a
picture of the page I was asking about and thought that I had blanked out all
of the buyer's information. I screwed up and missed 1 spot. As soon as I
realized that, I cancelled my message. The post was a question. It was NEVER,
EVER meant as a name and shame. I was having trouble finding the correct link
and just needed a bit of help.

So, to my buyer: I apologize profusely for the mistake. I honestly cannot apologize
enough. That was my mistake and it is completely on me.

Now, to the member who emailed my buyer:
***** THAT IS NOT OKAY. ******


My buyer is new to BL; which I mentioned in my message. Normally, I send a message
to the buyer explaining the feedback system and why their feedback is unwarranted
and so damaging. I have found that communication and education about BL goes
a long way. Never in my wildest imaginings would I have thought that another
seller would take it upon themselves to send such a message to my buyer. The
chastising tone of the email and the "mention" of being stop-listed by sellers
made my buyer feel threatened.

What should have been a conversation between myself and my buyer became public
in a way that I never wanted. Again, that is my mistake and I apologize.
 Author: Lenero View Messages Posted By Lenero
 Posted: Dec 16, 2021 05:24
 Subject: Re: Unable to respond to negative feedback.
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Hello I am the buyer
I have not received the order yet however I removed my feedback and wait more

Don't worry and lets see what will happen next weeks

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