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 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jan 2, 2022 02:21
 Subject: Re: Building Techniques - Pieces 4070 and 4085a
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In Feedback, Limunar22 writes:
  Hello Bricklink Community !

I have a technical question regarding certain building techniques that I am unfamiliar
with, and I was wondering if someone could please help me out.

The instructions to a SW Tie Defender MOC tell me to insert a 1 x 1 plate with
thin O clip into the back of a 1 x 1 modified headlight brick (parts 4085a and
4070, respectively). I have a screenshot of the steps attached below.

I personally have never thought to use this technique, but the idea is amazing.
It lowers the top of the clip half a plate thickness relative to the top of the
headlight brick, which can yield greater detail and greater precision in elevation.

However, when I found the pieces in my own collection and replicated the build,
the clip did not initially fit into the back of the headlight. I had to flex
the clips uncomfortably far to fit them into the headlight and once inside, they
remained flexed. The possible internal stresses on the part worry me greatly
!

Does anyone have any experience with this technique? If so, what are your thoughts
on it? Is there a better alternative I can experiment with?

All your help is greatly appreciated, thank you !

Limunar22

 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
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99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified
also lowers the top studs by half a plate when connected to the back
of the headlights, and so does the headlight
 
Part No: 4070  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
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4070 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
Parts: Brick, Modified
itself when placed on its
back like [p=4070a].
 Author: Limunar22 View Messages Posted By Limunar22
 Posted: Jan 1, 2022 22:55
 Subject: Building Techniques - Pieces 4070 and 4085a
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Hello Bricklink Community !

I have a technical question regarding certain building techniques that I am unfamiliar
with, and I was wondering if someone could please help me out.

The instructions to a SW Tie Defender MOC tell me to insert a 1 x 1 plate with
thin O clip into the back of a 1 x 1 modified headlight brick (parts 4085a and
4070, respectively). I have a screenshot of the steps attached below.

I personally have never thought to use this technique, but the idea is amazing.
It lowers the top of the clip half a plate thickness relative to the top of the
headlight brick, which can yield greater detail and greater precision in elevation.

However, when I found the pieces in my own collection and replicated the build,
the clip did not initially fit into the back of the headlight. I had to flex
the clips uncomfortably far to fit them into the headlight and once inside, they
remained flexed. The possible internal stresses on the part worry me greatly
!

Does anyone have any experience with this technique? If so, what are your thoughts
on it? Is there a better alternative I can experiment with?

All your help is greatly appreciated, thank you !

Limunar22
 
 Author: eileenkeeney View Messages Posted By eileenkeeney
 Posted: Dec 31, 2021 16:55
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

Not in my opinion (whatever that is worth).
Personally, I might leave a neutral depending on the degree of rudeness (which
is very subject to opinion).
I reserve negative for cases of where I am certain I was cheated even after effort
was made to get the seller to make things right.

I have more often avoided buying from a seller due to their responses to feedback
than I have due to actual feedback.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Dec 31, 2021 16:45
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

Let me answer your subject line “Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback" by
posing another question: Is politeness grounds for positive feedback?

Let’s say after receiving two orders, you find one to be substandard albeit
with placating and very polite comms - The other, superb in respect to shipping-packaging-pricing
and product quality, but accompanied by what you consider to be “rude” comms.


What then would be the considered respective feedbacks? An even more trenchant
question to ask oneself: which of the two would you continue buying from?

Personally in looking back, I've spent the largest amount of money over the
years on BL with perhaps one of the rudest I've come across here. Just added
thoughts when pondering all things feedback…

I still think that the “feedback system” will be the last thing that e-commerce
sites end-up conquering with sound solution.

-popsicle
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Dec 30, 2021 19:49
 Subject: Re: 111+777=888 FBs!
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  This is a particular moment I do not want to receive any feedback for a while!

I think I was kind of aware how things would turn out once I receive more feedbacks.

It is unfair and disappointing this buyer, who had ordered from me three times,
have read the store's terms but do not comply with store's terms, buy
cheap instructions, complains (politely) about their condition, and still prefers
to keep the item instead of return and receiving full refund.

As a buyer, I am either happy with item, so I leave positive feedback, or I am
not satisfied, in which case I accept to return and get a full refund.

 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Dec 30, 2021 07:43
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, calebfishn writes:
  In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

No one needs to deal with a truly rude seller. A polite and professional manner
is a required part of customer service. So, yes, I would consider leaving negative
feedback if I was mistreated as a buyer.

Feedback given is not only a message to the seller, it is a message to the community.
I feel this is just like shopping at the local hardware store, etc. If I was
treated in a rude, unreasonable manner by a store owner, you better believe I
would tell my friends about it and suggest they avoid that store.

Very true, but given the seller does'nt care much for their own customer
service they probably don't care enough about whether their feedback remains
in good standing either so whats the point in the buyer jeopardising their own
feedback just as a means of warning others?

Until Bricklink implements a feedback system that protects buyer opinion without
the fear of retaliation then the feedback system will always remain flawed and
unfit for purpose!

My advice to the OP would be to block the store, tell the seller what you think
of their poor service and don't leave any feedback so as not to give them
the satisfaction of jeopardising your own repuation!
 Author: SilentMode View Messages Posted By SilentMode
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 18:27
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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I would leave negative feedback and stoplist them (is that what it's called?),
just as I have with a few people on here as a result of their behaviour.

In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 17:15
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

At the very least, least favourite the store and also stop list them so they
cannot buy from you.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 14:10
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

Anything that particularly shaped your feeling about a transaction is grounds
for your feedback, but negative feedback should come with a specific comment
so other people can judge for themselves whether your experience is likely to
relate to them.
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
 Posted: Dec 29, 2021 12:58
 Subject: Re: Is rudeness grounds for negative feedback?
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In Feedback, NedsBrickShop writes:
  I've had a poor experience with a seller, where he argued with me about discrepant
parts I received, refunded me for the discrepant parts only after I pushed for
it, then told me to "Please never order from [his] store ever again."

Would you leave negative feedback based on the interaction? Or just move on since
you got the refund?

No one needs to deal with a truly rude seller. A polite and professional manner
is a required part of customer service. So, yes, I would consider leaving negative
feedback if I was mistreated as a buyer.

Feedback given is not only a message to the seller, it is a message to the community.
I feel this is just like shopping at the local hardware store, etc. If I was
treated in a rude, unreasonable manner by a store owner, you better believe I
would tell my friends about it and suggest they avoid that store.

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