Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | 1001bricks  | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 10:19 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, domain writes:
| | Is there list of which other importing countries Bricklink currently or intends
to charge GST (or similar, e.g. VAT) for? Can't find to find this information
on the site, thanks.
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Simply Help button, search for "tax" maybe?
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| Author: | domain | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 09:32 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Is there list of which other importing countries Bricklink currently or intends
to charge GST (or similar, e.g. VAT) for? Can't find to find this information
on the site, thanks.
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 07:04 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, brick.warehouse writes:
| | It seems like Australian buyers will be charged GST as a hidden fee that only
appears during checkout.
In Australia, prices are usually listed as inclusive of applicable sales taxes.
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This will show to Australian buyers only on stores that are not located in Australia.
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Is it not possible to include GST upfront in the price guide and store listings
pages?
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As far as I know it is not possible with the current source code of Bricklink...
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 02:59 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Dingoboy writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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I hate this country, Govt ruined it
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Yeah, you're the only country that has to pay taxes... (facepalm)
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| Author: | Dingoboy | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 02:38 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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I hate this country, Govt ruined it
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 00:50 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | Why does this GST receipt shows 1001 bricks???
Do I owe something?!
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 00:31 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Why does this GST receipt shows 1001 bricks???
Do I owe something?!
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| Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 23:30 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, lukester1 writes:
| | We do not pay GST on second hand goods in Australia
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Are marketplaces expected to distinguish between new and second hand goods in
Australia?
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| Author: | lukester1 | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 23:23 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| | We do not pay GST on second hand goods in Australia |
| Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 23:18 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, deanonet writes:
| | 2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
If my store is a 'hobby business' without an ABN, it is not required
to collect GST, are you going to be able to 'turn off' GST collection
if this applies?
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The GST referred to under point 2 above is GST on your fees as a seller, not
GST that you as a seller collect from others.
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Do you have some kind of chart or image that shows a breakdown of these fees
and where they apply, for what reason?
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 23:02 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, deanonet writes:
| | 2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
If my store is a 'hobby business' without an ABN, it is not required
to collect GST, are you going to be able to 'turn off' GST collection
if this applies?
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The GST referred to under point 2 above is GST on your fees as a seller, not
GST that you as a seller collect from others.
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| Author: | deanonet | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 22:52 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| 2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
If my store is a 'hobby business' without an ABN, it is not required
to collect GST, are you going to be able to 'turn off' GST collection
if this applies?
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 22:29 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, skwashd writes:
| | | | | | Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
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Because of new online marketplace legislation, in many countries BrickLink is
considered to be the deemed supplier, not the BrickLink sellers. Since we are
now a Registered Business in Australia and our thresholds are high, we qualify
as having to collect the tax. This is a legal obligation for us, not an optional
service.
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Does this mean you will be issuing tax invoices with an ABN?
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Yes.
As shown in the Help page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
At the foot of the receipt you can see "TAX ID: UNKNOWN". This will be
filled in on receipts issued after this solution has been implemented.
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| Author: | skwashd | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 21:17 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, Nicks.Bricks.Au writes:
| | "BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method."
This is not how GST and Australian tax law works. The goods on bricklink are
not taxable unless the seller is a registered business.
Individuals buying and selling items do not pay GST to each other!
Only the service component of 3% bricklink fees is taxable here.
Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
|
Because of new online marketplace legislation, in many countries BrickLink is
considered to be the deemed supplier, not the BrickLink sellers. Since we are
now a Registered Business in Australia and our thresholds are high, we qualify
as having to collect the tax. This is a legal obligation for us, not an optional
service.
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Does this mean you will be issuing tax invoices with an ABN? Or will you only
be issuing receipts with an ARN? If it is the latter will buyers be able to provide
their ABN and not pay GST on imports as per the law? https://www.ato.gov.au/business/international-tax-for-business/GST-on-imported-goods-and-services/Australian-business-importing-goods-and-services/#WhetherGSTapplies
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| Author: | maxlego | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 19:13 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Lol, question already answered by Russell in regards to bricklink being registered
business in Australia.
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, Nicks.Bricks.Au writes:
| | "BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method."
This is not how GST and Australian tax law works. The goods on bricklink are
not taxable unless the seller is a registered business.
Individuals buying and selling items do not pay GST to each other!
Only the service component of 3% bricklink fees is taxable here.
Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
|
Because of new online marketplace legislation, in many countries BrickLink is
considered to be the deemed supplier, not the BrickLink sellers. Since we are
now a Registered Business in Australia and our thresholds are high, we qualify
as having to collect the tax. This is a legal obligation for us, not an optional
service.
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| Author: | maxlego | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 19:10 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Australia is a large resource country and the government here was always concerned
about taxing resources which generate a lot of money for Australia. So the government
never was concerned about getting more tax revenue by lowering the thresholds
on imports or even raising GST but as I said before it is changing and there
has been talk of it but never really pursued.
Another thing to mention is that if Bricklink intends to charge GST it would
have to be registered as an Australian business and must quote their ABN number
when collecting GST. I assume that this has been done already.
Brett.
In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | […]
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
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I find it surprising that some countries had such a big threshold, even islands,
where transport cost would be a barrier. That’s unfair to the domestic market
to be able to buy from abroad without tax.
(Well, there’s the USA as a big example too )
For info, EU import VAT has always been due… there was only an exception for
low amounts (€22/£15) because it was too costly to collect (hurrah for internet
and marketplaces that can do the job for the government  ).
So, EU buyers don’t lose much (or even win) with the new scheme: we lost the
€22 exception (and some packages managed to fly under the radar) but we have
no brokerage fees from the postal & courrier services anymore. Well, when we
are not double-VATed… (though there hasn’t been posts about it for some time
now).
Seems AU buyers are losing in the change.
Any idea if the NZ buyers (who are next in line) will lose too?
(Norway should be like EU, or maybe more exactly like UK.)
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 19:07 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | Thanks Russell
Been a while, how have you been?
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It has been a while. Keeping very busy as you can imagine.
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 19:06 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Nicks.Bricks.Au writes:
| | "BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method."
This is not how GST and Australian tax law works. The goods on bricklink are
not taxable unless the seller is a registered business.
Individuals buying and selling items do not pay GST to each other!
Only the service component of 3% bricklink fees is taxable here.
Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
|
Because of new online marketplace legislation, in many countries BrickLink is
considered to be the deemed supplier, not the BrickLink sellers. Since we are
now a Registered Business in Australia and our thresholds are high, we qualify
as having to collect the tax. This is a legal obligation for us, not an optional
service.
|
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:40 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | […]
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
|
I find it surprising that some countries had such a big threshold, even islands,
where transport cost would be a barrier. That’s unfair to the domestic market
to be able to buy from abroad without tax.
(Well, there’s the USA as a big example too )
For info, EU import VAT has always been due… there was only an exception for
low amounts (€22/£15) because it was too costly to collect (hurrah for internet
and marketplaces that can do the job for the government ).
So, EU buyers don’t lose much (or even win) with the new scheme: we lost the
€22 exception (and some packages managed to fly under the radar) but we have
no brokerage fees from the postal & courrier services anymore. Well, when we
are not double-VATed… (though there hasn’t been posts about it for some time
now).
Seems AU buyers are losing in the change.
Any idea if the NZ buyers (who are next in line) will lose too?
(Norway should be like EU, or maybe more exactly like UK.)
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| Author: | maxlego | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:24 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Thanks Russell
Been a while, how have you been?
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | To Australian sellers that have an ABN (Australian Business Number) and already
registered for GST, this won't effect them much. It will make the paperwork
a little better with GST quoted in the invoices and such. Plus it means money
just going round in circles as you get it back anyway when you do your bas and
able to claim the GST as credit against the GST you need to pay every month or
quarter or yearly, however you have it setup. Being registered for GST since
2003, its something that I have done anyway with importations that were charged
GST. At least now buying stock from overseas you will be able to claim it without
having to separate it as a non GST expense.
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
Whereabouts do you fill in your tax info? It says under seller profile but I
am unable to see it? Is there a direct link or does it still need to be implemented?
Brett.
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This will go live when the solution is deployed. June 1st is still the target.
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| Author: | Nicks.Bricks.Au | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:18 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| "BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method."
This is not how GST and Australian tax law works. The goods on bricklink are
not taxable unless the seller is a registered business.
Individuals buying and selling items do not pay GST to each other!
Only the service component of 3% bricklink fees is taxable here.
Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
|
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:16 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | To Australian sellers that have an ABN (Australian Business Number) and already
registered for GST, this won't effect them much. It will make the paperwork
a little better with GST quoted in the invoices and such. Plus it means money
just going round in circles as you get it back anyway when you do your bas and
able to claim the GST as credit against the GST you need to pay every month or
quarter or yearly, however you have it setup. Being registered for GST since
2003, its something that I have done anyway with importations that were charged
GST. At least now buying stock from overseas you will be able to claim it without
having to separate it as a non GST expense.
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
Whereabouts do you fill in your tax info? It says under seller profile but I
am unable to see it? Is there a direct link or does it still need to be implemented?
Brett.
|
This will go live when the solution is deployed. June 1st is still the target.
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| Author: | maxlego | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:11 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| To Australian sellers that have an ABN (Australian Business Number) and already
registered for GST, this won't effect them much. It will make the paperwork
a little better with GST quoted in the invoices and such. Plus it means money
just going round in circles as you get it back anyway when you do your bas and
able to claim the GST as credit against the GST you need to pay every month or
quarter or yearly, however you have it setup. Being registered for GST since
2003, its something that I have done anyway with importations that were charged
GST. At least now buying stock from overseas you will be able to claim it without
having to separate it as a non GST expense.
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
Whereabouts do you fill in your tax info? It says under seller profile but I
am unable to see it? Is there a direct link or does it still need to be implemented?
Brett.
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 08:27 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, jonwil writes:
| | Does this mean anything for an Australian seller who sells to an Australian buyer?
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No.
It’s like UK & EU (and soon Norway, and, I guess, New Zealand): it’s only for
importations.
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