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 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: May 22, 2015 11:49
 Subject: Re: Checkboxes to describe sellers (part II)
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Rick_S. (1301)

Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 10, 2002 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: quick blowout
In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  In Suggestions, Rick_S. writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  
  
  now that's something I'd like to see a banner waving over the price guide
of stores that ship within 24 hours of payment (1 business day), I'd like
that a lot more then this suggestion, and if a store clicks that banner then
they have to comply or the buyers order is free

I agree tht would be awesome. That is exactly the kind of thing I am suggesting.
Different stores are good at different things. Let them tell us in a systematic
way.

I still don't see how this helps buyers.

Sellers select it. They get the order from the buyer based on one day shipping.
They then take three days to pack it, they send it, and later apologize to the
buyer for something out of their control. The buyer gets their stuff two days
late. What do they do, leave negative feedback? Make a complaint to admin, and
admin bars the seller from using the 1-day shipping tag?

It makes a buyer feel they are getting something, when in reality a seller doesn't
have to do it.

no my comment was not about 1 day shipping, but one day service, the item will
be shipped out within one business day of payment being received, how long it
takes the post office to deliver is up to them.

By one day shipping, I meant one day turnaround to post.

well in my store that's what my customers got, was a fast turn around and
low shipping, and now I get an insult from this suggestion telling me I have
to have this button clicked or be removed from a bunch of searches, if I want
to be in searches I have to give up my freedom to say no.

and in a country founded in freedom I refuse to give up my right to freedom or
be penalized for using it.
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: May 22, 2015 11:40
 Subject: Re: Checkboxes to describe sellers (part II)
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Location:  USA, California
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Store Closed Store: quick blowout
In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  
  
  now that's something I'd like to see a banner waving over the price guide
of stores that ship within 24 hours of payment (1 business day), I'd like
that a lot more then this suggestion, and if a store clicks that banner then
they have to comply or the buyers order is free

I agree tht would be awesome. That is exactly the kind of thing I am suggesting.
Different stores are good at different things. Let them tell us in a systematic
way.

I still don't see how this helps buyers.

Sellers select it. They get the order from the buyer based on one day shipping.
They then take three days to pack it, they send it, and later apologize to the
buyer for something out of their control. The buyer gets their stuff two days
late. What do they do, leave negative feedback? Make a complaint to admin, and
admin bars the seller from using the 1-day shipping tag?

It makes a buyer feel they are getting something, when in reality a seller doesn't
have to do it.

no my comment was not about 1 day shipping, but one day service, the item will
be shipped out within one business day of payment being received, how long it
takes the post office to deliver is up to them.
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: May 22, 2015 11:38
 Subject: Re: Checkboxes to describe sellers (part II)
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Location:  USA, California
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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
  
  *shrug* You are free to interpret it however you like. As I showed, though, there
is nothing in the suggestion that prevents sellers from being flexible. Exactly
how they can now be flexible with countries they ship to. The suggestion would
work in exactly the same way.


So how would it work, if a seller ticked the allow OCR without penalty then a
buyer is incredibly rude in their cancellation email or the buyer empties the
store then emails a day later with CANCEL THE LOT LOLZ? Where is the flexibility
for the seller to deny the request or file a NPB? They are breaking their terms
if they file a NPB.


The parallel is identical. If a seller says that they accept cancelation requests
with no penalty, then that's what it is. With shipping, if they say they
accept orders from Canada, then that's what it is. If a buyer wants to cancel,
done. If a buyer wants to ship to Canada, done.

The flexibility is on the other side. A seller can set up their store to NOT
ship to Canada, but still be flexible on the issue on a case-by-case basis. And
a seller could state that the DON'T automatically accept all cancelation
requests, but still be flexible on a case by case basis.

This is precisely how things are right now. The only difference is that one category
is easy for buyers to filter, and the other is not.


--
Marc.

thing their saying is, if a seller does not ship to Canada a Canadian will not
see their store, if a store does not accept OCR's then nobody who may file
an OCR will see their store, their stores will be excluded from searches.

you want to allow OCR's fine, post it in your stores terms, but it does not
have to be something you either do, or don't do, each contract is unique
and not all are the same.
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: May 22, 2015 11:35
 Subject: Re: Checkboxes to describe sellers (part II)
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Location:  USA, California
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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  Once again... if you want to discuss the ideas, please do. These personal attacks
are uncalled for.

I am at work. Do you want me to bring 53000 parts to work with me every morning?
I can post because I am between tasks and I have the internet.

--
Marc.

wish I had a job I could post all day on the forums and get paid for it.

my point is, don't go pointing out what problems others have if you have
problems of your own, clean up your yard first before telling your neighbor his
yard is filthy, and so on but I'm sure you get the gist of it.
 Author: Rick_S. View Messages Posted By Rick_S.
 Posted: May 22, 2015 11:31
 Subject: Re: Checkboxes to describe sellers (part II)
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Location:  USA, California
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In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
  
  yes right now sellers can be flexible just like you are flexible in that you
would rather be posting in the forums instead of processing the orders in your
store, seriously if your posting there are delays in shipping orders in your
store in your splash page you should not be wasting time in the forums, so far
you sound like a hypocrite tell people that you would do this and that because
your holier then thou, and yet you fail miserably at the one thing that matters
to me as a buyer, which is a timely processing and shipping time.

Can we just stop getting personal? Is it necessary? I'm all for job security,
but man...step back, and think about what you are doing.

Darren

actually this suggestion is an attack on sellers who will not do any old cancellation
of an order upon request, and to think it is anything other then someone who
wants to make others look bad while making themselves feel good is just fooling
yourself, I take offense with this suggestion in its entirety.

furthermore it was not an attack per se, but an observation of how the poster
is willing to make other sellers look bad and show how he thinks things should
be done when he is failing miserably with his own store and should obviously
be devoting more time to it.

but that is my opinion, and while straight forward it was neither an attack (maybe
a deflection of his attack)or an insult.

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