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 Author: WOLKsite View Messages Posted By WOLKsite
 Posted: Mar 1, 2024 08:49
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8540-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests (Entry)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8540  Name: Vakama
* 
8540-1 (Inv) Vakama
27 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga

* Delete 1 Part x88 Black Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section) (Extra)
* Change {1 to 2} Part Black x88 Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section)

Comments from Submitter:
Add note: "Although the build only needs one rubber band, both rubber bands were included in the part count on the box: 27 pcs"
 Author: WOLKsite View Messages Posted By WOLKsite
 Posted: Feb 28, 2024 15:19
 Subject: Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me?
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 Topic: Inventories
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In Inventories, EDOM writes:
  
 
Part No: 4502  Name: Minifigure, Plume / Feather Wheel, 3 on Sprue
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4502 (Inv) Minifigure, Plume / Feather Wheel, 3 on Sprue
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear Accessory {Yellow}

Certain sets only use one or two of the plume feathers from that wheel. But even
if only one is used, the other two are also listed on the regular items.

On this page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems in the
section "Additional Information About Regular Items" it says:
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless some
parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from the
sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.


Now my question is: Why?

Example given: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6274-1
 
Part No: 4502a  Name: Minifigure, Plume Feather Small
* 
4502a Minifigure, Plume Feather Small
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear Accessory {Yellow}
and
 
Part No: 4502c  Name: Minifigure, Plume Feather Large
* 
4502c Minifigure, Plume Feather Large
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear Accessory {Yellow}
are not used anywhere on the Caribbean Clipper. There
is no official parts list of this set. But still both pieces are listed as Regular
Items on BrickLink. In this particular case the price for the complete set is
increased by approximately $10 just because these two unused parts are listed
as regular parts.

I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.

Who is with me?

This treatment is consistent with any modern such items where set inventories
from LEGO do exist, and those parts are included (typically, all as one "single"
piece) regardless of if they are used or not. Personally, I would consider
a set incomplete without those pieces, much like I would consider a set incomplete
without spare ammo; it's not a matter of what is used in the builds, it's
a matter of what is part of the set.
 Author: WOLKsite View Messages Posted By WOLKsite
 Posted: Feb 28, 2024 15:08
 Subject: Re: Rubber Bands & Piece Counts
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog Requests, WOLKsite writes:
  Strangely, on Bricks & Pieces, the pcs count is 294. In a LEGO Shop At Home catalogue
I've found, it is 246.

146; oops.
Here's the catalogue: https://archive.org/details/Lego-Shop-At-Home-summer-2001-Bionicle-Cover/page/n47/mode/2up
 Author: WOLKsite View Messages Posted By WOLKsite
 Posted: Feb 28, 2024 15:07
 Subject: Rubber Bands & Piece Counts
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 Topic: Catalog
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So, this is sort of a wider-spread issue that would be adressed across several
sets, so I wanted to make one bigger post to adress this as I'm not sure
whether this should be handled through a note or through inventory changes, and
I want to ensure consistency.

I've noticed that several sets with SQUARE rubber bands, the set typically
includes twice the amount of rubber bands necessary to build the set, and these
are typically also included in the piece count listed on the box. However, on
Bricklink, these parts are handled inconsistently.

I've only looked at BIONICLE sets, for the time being.

The following contain 2 rubber bands in their piece count shown on the box, but
only uses one:
8545 Whenua already handles this through a note.
 
Set No: 8540  Name: Vakama
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8540-1 (Inv) Vakama
27 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 8541  Name: Matau
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8541-1 (Inv) Matau
26 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 8542  Name: Onewa
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8542-1 (Inv) Onewa
30 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 8543  Name: Nokama
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8543-1 (Inv) Nokama
28 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 8544  Name: Nuju
* 
8544-1 (Inv) Nuju
30 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 8545  Name: Whenua
* 
8545-1 (Inv) Whenua
28 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga

These are duplicates of the above sets but don't show a piece count:
 
Set No: 1417  Name: Vakama {Kabaya Version}
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1417-1 (Inv) Vakama {Kabaya Version}
27 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 1417  Name: Vakama polybag
* 
1417-2 (Inv) Vakama polybag
27 Parts, 2003
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 1418  Name: Matau
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1418-1 (Inv) Matau
26 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 1419  Name: Nokama
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1419-1 (Inv) Nokama
28 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga
 
Set No: 1420  Name: Nuju
* 
1420-1 (Inv) Nuju
30 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Turaga




Nui-Rama contains 8 rubber bands, but only 4 are used in the main model, and
2 in the alternate model. Box pcs is 138 - It erroneously excludes all 8 rubber
bands.

Strangely, on Bricks & Pieces, the pcs count is 294. In a LEGO Shop At Home catalogue
I've found, it is 246.
 
Set No: 8537  Name: Nui-Rama
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8537-1 (Inv) Nui-Rama
146 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Rahi

Muaka & Kane-ra contains 12 XS and 16 S rubber bands, but only 6 XS, respectively
8 S, are used in the main model, and 1 XS and 4 S in the alternate model. Box
pcs is 647.
 
Set No: 8538  Name: Muaka & Kane-Ra
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8538-1 (Inv) Muaka & Kane-Ra
647 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Rahi

Manas contains 8 rubber bands, but only 4 are used in the main model, and 6 in
the alternate model. Box pcs is 442.

The same LEGO Shop At Home catalogue mentioned for the Nui-Rama, however, shows
the count of 428 - not sure what's up there.
 
Set No: 8539  Name: Manas
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8539-1 (Inv) Manas
442 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Rahi

Nui-Jaga contains 8 rubber bands, but only 4 are used in the main model, and
4 in the alternate model. Box pcs is 218. Like Whenua, this one is already
noted.

 
Set No: 8548  Name: Nui-Jaga
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8548-1 (Inv) Nui-Jaga
218 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Rahi

Tarakava contains 8 rubber bands, but only 4 are used in the main model, and
2 in the alternate model. Box pcs is 401.
 
Set No: 8549  Name: Tarakava
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8549-1 (Inv) Tarakava
401 Parts, 2001
Sets: BIONICLE: Rahi

As a tangential addendum of notes to add:
Exo-Toa box pcs is 360, erroneously excluding the rubber bands.
 
Set No: 8557  Name: Exo-Toa
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8557-1 (Inv) Exo-Toa
367 Parts, 2002
Sets: BIONICLE: Titans

Lewa Nuva box pcs is 36 - as already noted, all of the 38 pieces in the set are
used in the instructions one way or another, and Bricks & Pieces says 38 as well.
 
Set No: 8567  Name: Lewa Nuva
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8567-1 (Inv) Lewa Nuva
38 Parts, 2002
Sets: BIONICLE: Toa Nuva
 Author: WOLKsite View Messages Posted By WOLKsite
 Posted: Feb 28, 2024 14:13
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7690-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests
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In Inventories Requests, Firefly33333 writes:
  ONLY 1 needs to be removed. Form won't let me.

Switch the Action Code from "Delete" to "Change", and fill out
the Qty (Quantity) cell with the new value.

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