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 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
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Countries?

United States, Canada, Great Britton, France, Denmark, Netherlands??

Jim

Change Denmark to Germany.
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Countries?

United States, Canada, Great Britton, France, Denmark, Netherlands??

Jim
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Suggestions, Familybuild writes:
  the cross border makes a going discussion mostly useless for a lot of users

Depending upon your perspective, such a discussion could actually be a very useful
learning opportunity.

For example, I know nothing about Dutch politics. Please enlighten me.

All I know is it involves lots of tractors maybe chickens would fit in
well

Tulips also.
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In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Suggestions, Familybuild writes:
  the cross border makes a going discussion mostly useless for a lot of users

Depending upon your perspective, such a discussion could actually be a very useful
learning opportunity.

For example, I know nothing about Dutch politics. Please enlighten me.

All I know is it involves lots of tractors maybe chickens would fit in
well
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Suggestions, Familybuild writes:
  In Suggestions, Emperor_Penguin writes:
  Who would want to discuss politics on a lego selling website, it has nothing
to do with it. The discussion forums are wild enough 🤦‍♂️

+1

Also.. the cross border makes a going discussion mostly useless for a lot of
users

Do you mean wildchicken is borderline?
Ah that'd explain many things... thank you!
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In Suggestions, Familybuild writes:
  the cross border makes a going discussion mostly useless for a lot of users

Depending upon your perspective, such a discussion could actually be a very useful
learning opportunity.

For example, I know nothing about Dutch politics. Please enlighten me.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  “Wrong number,” that person does exist. Saved the rest of your post.

Of course he does, it wouldn't be a political post if he didn't!
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In Suggestions, Familybuild writes:
  In Suggestions, Emperor_Penguin writes:
  Who would want to discuss politics on a lego selling website, it has nothing
to do with it. The discussion forums are wild enough 🤦‍♂️

+1

Also.. the cross border makes a going discussion mostly useless for a lot of
users

^^THIS^^
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
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In Suggestions, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Macaronis writes:
  […]

Language please.

As for the suggestion itself, I don’t know why so many people are taking wildchicken13’s
jokes so seriously.

Wait it’s a joke!?!?

Does it really matter? It came from someone who identifies as a wild chicken!
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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  Now you go too far.

We all know that pizza is far superior.

indeed
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
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In Suggestions, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  But then again, if everyone agrees with me, I feel I must be wrong

Nice one
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  
  In Suggestions, peregrinator writes:
  In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  Vote YES! The future of BrickLink depends on it. 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪🇳🇱

*posts a picture of (redacted) every day*

We should add a religion forum too!

Agreed for mustard; this is sacred!

Now you go too far.

We all know that pizza is far superior.
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  In Suggestions, peregrinator writes:
  In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  Vote YES! The future of BrickLink depends on it. 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪🇳🇱

*posts a picture of (redacted) every day*

We should add a religion forum too!

Agreed for mustard; this is sacred!
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Macaronis writes:
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Language please.

As for the suggestion itself, I don’t know why so many people are taking wildchicken13’s
jokes so seriously.

Wait it’s a joke!?!?
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“Wrong number,” that person does exist. Saved the rest of your post.

In Suggestions, peregrinator writes:
  In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  Vote YES! The future of BrickLink depends on it. 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪🇳🇱

*posts a picture of (redacted) every day*

We should add a religion forum too!

(Actually there's enough polarization within the hobby itself, there's
no need to add more.)
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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Language please.

As for the suggestion itself, I don’t know why so many people are taking wildchicken13’s
jokes so seriously.
 Author: Familybuild View Messages Posted By Familybuild
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In Suggestions, Emperor_Penguin writes:
  Who would want to discuss politics on a lego selling website, it has nothing
to do with it. The discussion forums are wild enough 🤦‍♂️

+1

Also.. the cross border makes a going discussion mostly useless for a lot of
users
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Emperor_Penguin writes:
  Who would want to discuss politics on a lego selling website, it has nothing
to do with it.

... says the Emperor!

Sounds like a Diktat to me

Having flashbacks?
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In Suggestions, Emperor_Penguin writes:
  Who would want to discuss politics on a lego selling website, it has nothing
to do with it.

... says the Emperor!

Sounds like a Diktat to me
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Who would want to discuss politics on a lego selling website, it has nothing
to do with it. The discussion forums are wild enough 🤦‍♂️
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In Suggestions, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  Vote YES! The future of BrickLink depends on it. 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪🇳🇱

I enjoy discussing Politics. From a philosophical and also historical point of
view, mostly.

Same

  
But I regret that so much people are so entrenched in whatever party / ideology
/ righteousness / whatever, that they just can't truly debate in a rational
manner.

As I see it, the final goal of a debate should be improvement, not victory. But
I've been proven wrong.

Well put

  
It would help, as Marcus Aurelius put it, to view things we say as opinions,
not as facts; and everything we see as a perspective, not the truth.

Some individuals throughout our history burn notably brighter, Marcus Aurelius
was one. I've found a few bits of wisdom that are ascribed to the man, even
more salient today. I imagine when an individual possesses a fulsome understanding
of human nature, their candid thoughts and lessons travel forward through time
well, or seem timeless

Another one of his tenets: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1432223

Also consider Stoic Tenets...

  And Jonathan Haidt would add, that anyone who values truth should stop worshiping
begin right.

For which Wayne Dyer comes to mind, but I'll stop here.

Anyway. It won't happen.

Great post. Thanks!
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
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  As I see it, the final goal of a debate should be improvement, not victory.

What??? I've never seen any improvement


There is. If after a reasonable period of debate everyone agrees with me.

(To quote another football player you may or not may be acquainted with )

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.
.

But then again, if everyone agrees with me, I feel I must be wrong

  
  It would help, as Marcus Aurelius put it
And Jonathan Haidt would add
For which Wayne Dyer

I don't know well all those football players names, sorry
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In Suggestions, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:

  As I see it, the final goal of a debate should be improvement, not victory.

What??? I've never seen any improvement


  It would help, as Marcus Aurelius put it
And Jonathan Haidt would add
For which Wayne Dyer

I don't know well all those football players names, sorry
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It might be that he is there on invite, ytubers can have all kinds of arrangements..
Getting in a video with 100rds of thousands of subs, is amazing marketing.

If stores want to be found, outside BL actively they most likely are actively
marketing to be found outside of BL..

Also to give some perspective, one province here, fits inside of a state multiple
times, the population in it, can be placed in the bigger city's easy..

So this does make it relativly different and hard to compare
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In Suggestions, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
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  Vote YES! The future of BrickLink depends on it. 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪🇳🇱

I enjoy discussing Politics. From a philosophical and also historical point of
view, mostly.

But I regret that so much people are so entrenched in whatever party / ideology
/ righteousness / whatever, that they just can't truly debate in a rational
manner.

As I see it, the final goal of a debate should be improvement, not victory. But
I've been proven wrong.

It would help, as Marcus Aurelius put it, to view things we say as opinions,
not as facts; and everything we see as a perspective, not the truth.

And Jonathan Haidt would add, that anyone who values truth should stop worshiping
begin right.

For which Wayne Dyer comes to mind, but I'll stop here.

Anyway. It won't happen.

+1
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In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
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I enjoy discussing Politics. From a philosophical and also historical point of
view, mostly.

But I regret that so much people are so entrenched in whatever party / ideology
/ righteousness / whatever, that they just can't truly debate in a rational
manner.

As I see it, the final goal of a debate should be improvement, not victory. But
I've been proven wrong.

It would help, as Marcus Aurelius put it, to view things we say as opinions,
not as facts; and everything we see as a perspective, not the truth.

And Jonathan Haidt would add, that anyone who values truth should stop worshiping
begin right.

For which Wayne Dyer comes to mind, but I'll stop here.

Anyway. It won't happen.
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, Stuart9 writes:
  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

We have to put up with all that garbage in the media, much of it biased mixed
with absolute lies.

Let us have somewhere with relative sanity.

I agree. And so does Rishi. And Boris. But Trump doesn't. And Putin probably
doesn't either. And Biden is still making up his mind.

Ooo how even without it politics will show there ugly head anyway.
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In Suggestions, Stuart9 writes:
  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

We have to put up with all that garbage in the media, much of it biased mixed
with absolute lies.

Let us have somewhere with relative sanity.

I agree. And so does Rishi. And Boris. But Trump doesn't. And Putin probably
doesn't either. And Biden is still making up his mind.
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Abstention.
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In Suggestions, Stuart9 writes:
  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

We have to put up with all that garbage in the media, much of it biased mixed
with absolute lies.

Let us have somewhere with relative sanity.



^^ THIS ^^
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

We have to put up with all that garbage in the media, much of it biased mixed
with absolute lies.

Let us have somewhere with relative sanity.






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Vote YES! The future of BrickLink depends on it. 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪🇳🇱
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, tmtomh writes:
  ... to see sellers' state/province is NOT a violation of this EU rule but allowing
user to see sellers' city WOULD be a violation of this EU rule.

Privacy is for everyone (here at least).

And because 90% (?) of BrickLink sellers are the same as customers: private individuals,
not professionals.

"I am a Lego hobbyist and have collected Lego since I was a child."
"This is not a business for me"

(Your Terms)

Sorry, I really give up.

Please open a ticket and ask why it's not implemented, if you don't like
my reply?

Please do give up - no one required or asked you to be the arbitrator of this
suggestion - you inserted yourself into the thread as the first and I believe
now the most frequent responder. That’s fine - but if you do that and claim to
have an answer to the query then your answer actually has to be an answer. It’s
not that I like or don’t like your reply - in fact, I love and agree with the
principle that “Privacy for everyone”. It’s not that I don’t like that idea -
it’s that it’s not responsive to the original suggestion/query, because neither
it nor the text of the EU rule tells us anything about whether BL is legally
barred from extending the existing state/province location information to the
city level.

So yes, there’s nothing more you can add here if you don’t have any information
relevant to that specific distinction.
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Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In Suggestions, tmtomh writes:
  ... to see sellers' state/province is NOT a violation of this EU rule but allowing
user to see sellers' city WOULD be a violation of this EU rule.

Privacy is for everyone (here at least).

And because 90% (?) of BrickLink sellers are the same as customers: private individuals,
not professionals.

"I am a Lego hobbyist and have collected Lego since I was a child."
"This is not a business for me"

(Your Terms)

Sorry, I really give up.

Please open a ticket and ask why it's not implemented, if you don't like
my reply?
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  
  I have tried to find the law that 1001Bricks/Sylvain is referring to, but so
far have failed to find any specific or official legal language. By all indications
he doesn't know exactly what the law says either, and he clearly doesn't
care enough to look it up either.

First sample found in 3 seconds:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/internet-telecoms/data-protection-online-privacy/index_en.htm

Read especially:
When is data processing allowed?

(BrickLink owns the buyer's data)

They're ALLOWED to use them in this ONLY specific case described here:

* they have a contract with you – for example, a contract to supply goods
or services (i.e. when you buy something online), or an employee contract


That is ALL.

In short, in Europe - where LEGO is located - the consumer address is authorized
to be used for only ONE SINGLE thing: to ship the Order. That's it.

I stop here, I don't know what this Crusade is all about, but I won't
participate anymore.

Because I ust admit, I'm very happy people can be online and don't have
to show their address or city - for sooooo OBVIOUS reasons.

This is exactly what I'm talking about: there's not one word or concept
in the linked page or in any of your comments that says why BL allowing users
to see sellers' state/province is NOT a violation of this EU rule but allowing
user to see sellers' city WOULD be a violation of this EU rule.

This has nothing to do with customer address. If just the seller's city constitutes
revealing their address, then so does the seller's state/province that BL
already reveals and makes searchable.

So for the 4th or 5th time, your objections here have NO logic with respect to
this EU regulation. This thread, which I started, was not about BL revealing/processing
sellers ADDRESSES. It was about their CITIES when BL ALREADY reveals/processes
the date of their STATE/PROVINCE.

You are continually misrepresenting what the requested feature actually is, and
you are continually misrepresenting what the EU reg says and does not say.

If you think BL is currently violating EU rules by revealing/processing seller
state/province-location data, then say so and make that case. If not, then you
can kindly take a seat, because you have already amply demonstrated your inability
to provide any compelling or persuasive argument that city location is uniquely
against this EU rule when state/province is not. Once you get more specific than
national location (which is necessary for tax/VAT/import reasons), location data
processing is location data processing, whether it's province or city.

You might not know what this "obsession" with this feature is, but remember
that you are the one who decided to jump in immediately with the first
comment in this thread, making the still-unsupported claim that BL can't
do this for EU legal reasons.
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  I have tried to find the law that 1001Bricks/Sylvain is referring to, but so
far have failed to find any specific or official legal language. By all indications
he doesn't know exactly what the law says either, and he clearly doesn't
care enough to look it up either.

First sample found in 3 seconds:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/internet-telecoms/data-protection-online-privacy/index_en.htm

Read especially:
When is data processing allowed?

(BrickLink owns the buyer's data)

They're ALLOWED to use them in this ONLY specific case described here:

* they have a contract with you – for example, a contract to supply goods
or services (i.e. when you buy something online), or an employee contract


That is ALL.

In short, in Europe - where LEGO is located - the consumer address is authorized
to be used for only ONE SINGLE thing: to ship the Order. That's it.

I stop here, I don't know what this Crusade is all about, but I won't
participate anymore.

Because I ust admit, I'm very happy people can be online and don't have
to show their address or city - for sooooo OBVIOUS reasons.
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Location:  USA, Pennsylvania
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In Suggestions, Brickman4you writes:
  In Suggestions, tmtomh writes:
  To my knowledge, there is currently no way to search stores by location beyond
the state/province level.

Would it be possible to be able to search down to the city level, or perhaps
by distance from your own location? And would it be possible to add a "local
pickup" checkbox in sellers' store configuration pages so that buyers
could search stores based on that criterion?

I'm reminded again, make sure my seafood comes from reliable sources...

As for a need to know location seems a mute point. If you ever have tried to
do a meetup via Facebook, letgo, offerup, craigslist, or the like you will
know that your time and gas money is more valuable than a $4.00 shipping charge.

I know for a fact that there are BL members - including at least one who's
a very public YouTuber 100s of thousands of subscribers - who have found BL sellers
who are local to them, and who have developed good relations with them and regularly
pick up orders from them locally. It's not a FB, Craigslist, or OfferUp meetup
because it's not a random stranger and it's not necessarily a one-time
thing: it's a seller who regularly sells one particular item (Lego) on a
platform dedicated to the buying and selling of that item, a platform that you're
both registered members of.

More simply, it doesn't matter if you (or I) think it's easier and more
efficient to have items shipped. Some people find local pickup convenient, and
the BL platform and feedback system makes it a simple matter to have easy communication
and dependable, protected transactions via local pickup. If dozens, or 100s,
or more BL members would occasionally or frequently make use of local sellers
they could pick up from when they were already running errands or coming home
from work or making a large bulk purchase or buying boxes sets easily damaged
in shipping or whatever, why would any of us actively argue against enabling
them to find those local sellers?

The only "it's not worth it" argument against adding city-level location
info for sellers and a "local pickup" flag/checkbox for stores is that
so few people would take advantage of it that it's not worth the time and
effort for BL to implement the feature. Given the enormous size of BL's membership,
I don't think anyone has come close to establishing that this is that kind
of "no one would use it" edge case.
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In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Suggestions, tmtomh writes:
  The idea that we can search by state/province and does NOT run afoul of EU rules but we
would run afoul of EU rules if we searched by city, is an idea that does not seem to make any sense.

It makes sense to me.

It's a lot easier to stalk/harass someone if you know what town/city they
live in than just the state/province.

For example, knowing that someone lives near the intersection of 30th Avenue
and Steinway Street gives you a lot more information about that person than if
you just know that they live in New York.

Of course, just knowing what neighborhood someone lives in isn't very useful,
but if you have additional information about the person, you can identify them
quite easily.

That's not to say that people outside of the European Union cannot use this
feature, but that people within the EU may not be able to use it freely, and
that decreases the incentive for BrickLink to develop it in the first place since
much of the BrickLink community resides within the jurisdiction of the EU.

  we do not have any evidence that adding this feature would be impossible or would run afoul of any legal regulation.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454977

At least here in EU it's forbidden to display the location of a private
buyer or seller.


That's enough evidence for me. If you want, you can look up the actual law.

I do agree, however, that this would be a useful and desirable feature, and I
would use it if it were developed. However, given the slow pace of development
around here, I'm not very optimistic about that happening anytime soon.

Thanks again for your reply. I don't want to needlessly prolong this exchange,
but I think an important distinction once again needs to be clarified.

To be clear, I absolutely understand your point that the more you narrow down
someone's location, the easier it is to try to use other information (for
example, info that might be available in their profile or elsewhere on the internet
by searching their username or store name or something) to identify someone's
location or real-world identity. So I understand the logic and the principle.

But just because a city is a smaller area than a state or province does not tell
us anything about what criteria EU law uses to define "displaying the location"
of a private (non-business/corporate) buyer or seller. There are a multitude
of reasonable criteria or standards the law might use to define "displaying
someone's location," and "you can't show their city" is only
one among many such possible standards.

I have tried to find the law that 1001Bricks/Sylvain is referring to, but so
far have failed to find any specific or official legal language. By all indications
he doesn't know exactly what the law says either, and he clearly doesn't
care enough to look it up either.

So no, I'm not going to take his word for it, because he doesn't know
whether making seller location searchable at the city level would or would not
run afoul of EU law, and neither do you, and neither do I (though I am still
trying to find out).

So if his assertion is good enough for you, that's your prerogative. But
it's not good enough for me because none of us has any earthly idea whether
his assertion is actually true with regard to city-level location.

Finally, he's also written that he doesn't get why people would want
to be able to search by city; he's questioned how many members would actually
use such a feature; and he's said that as a buyer he would never want to
do local pickup. So in my perception, when challenged about the EU-regulation
assertion, he's just thrown other objections at the wall to see what sticks.
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Location:  USA, North Carolina
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In Suggestions, tmtomh writes:
  To my knowledge, there is currently no way to search stores by location beyond
the state/province level.

Would it be possible to be able to search down to the city level, or perhaps
by distance from your own location? And would it be possible to add a "local
pickup" checkbox in sellers' store configuration pages so that buyers
could search stores based on that criterion?

I'm reminded again, make sure my seafood comes from reliable sources...

As for a need to know location seems a mute point. If you ever have tried to
do a meetup via Facebook, letgo, offerup, craigslist, or the like you will
know that your time and gas money is more valuable than a $4.00 shipping charge.
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Suggestions, tmtomh writes:
  The idea that we can search by state/province and does NOT run afoul of EU rules but we
would run afoul of EU rules if we searched by city, is an idea that does not seem to make any sense.

It makes sense to me.

It's a lot easier to stalk/harass someone if you know what town/city they
live in than just the state/province.

For example, knowing that someone lives near the intersection of 30th Avenue
and Steinway Street gives you a lot more information about that person than if
you just know that they live in New York.

Of course, just knowing what neighborhood someone lives in isn't very useful,
but if you have additional information about the person, you can identify them
quite easily.

That's not to say that people outside of the European Union cannot use this
feature, but that people within the EU may not be able to use it freely, and
that decreases the incentive for BrickLink to develop it in the first place since
much of the BrickLink community resides within the jurisdiction of the EU.

  we do not have any evidence that adding this feature would be impossible or would run afoul of any legal regulation.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454977

At least here in EU it's forbidden to display the location of a private
buyer or seller.


That's enough evidence for me. If you want, you can look up the actual law.

I do agree, however, that this would be a useful and desirable feature, and I
would use it if it were developed. However, given the slow pace of development
around here, I'm not very optimistic about that happening anytime soon.
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In Suggestions, Replika86 writes:
  Is it possible to make an export of your order and import it to your own inventory.
Now I do that manually brick by brick. It would be great if you can make an CSV
file of all the parts you have ordered and import them easily into your own collection/inventory.

Thanks all! I have managed to do it. I need to make some litte changes in the
XML file before import. But it works great.
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In Suggestions, Reejoc writes:
  In Suggestions, Replika86 writes:
  Is it possible to make an export of your order and import it to your own inventory.
Now I do that manually brick by brick. It would be great if you can make an CSV
file of all the parts you have ordered and import them easily into your own collection/inventory.

Just came to request the same function.

BrickStore, free, open source - takes a couple of clicks.
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In Suggestions, Replika86 writes:
  Is it possible to make an export of your order and import it to your own inventory.
Now I do that manually brick by brick. It would be great if you can make an CSV
file of all the parts you have ordered and import them easily into your own collection/inventory.

Just came to request the same function. You can currently do it by converting
order into wanted list, then downloading as Bricklink CSV, then editing file
to remove 1st line, then importing via My Collection. But this is tedious and
it would be great to have a one button method of adding order parts to My Collection.
Also being able to part out sets within My Collection.

Pretty please Bricklink, you're missing a trick!
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Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Suggestions, Replika86 writes:
  Is it possible to make an export of your order and import it to your own inventory.
Now I do that manually brick by brick. It would be great if you can make an CSV
file of all the parts you have ordered and import them easily into your own collection/inventory.

Tu peux télécharger tes commandes si elles ont moins de 6 mois.
Après 6 mois, les détails (items, quantités, prix…) sont effacés.

Le lien « Download » ( https://www.bricklink.com/orderExcel.asp?orderType=placed
) est au bas de la liste des commandes ( https://www.bricklink.com/orderPlaced.asp
) quand elle n’est pas vide.

———

You can download you orders if they are less than 6 months old.
After 6 months, the details (items, qty, prices…) are erased.

The link ‘Download’ ( https://www.bricklink.com/orderExcel.asp?orderType=placed
) is at the bottom of the list of orders ( https://www.bricklink.com/orderPlaced.asp
) quand it’s not empty.
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In Suggestions, tmtomh writes:
  It very well might violate those rules - but it just as well might not. The idea
that we can search by state/province and does NOT run afoul of EU rules but we
would run afoul of EU rules if we searched by city, is an idea that does not
seem to make any sense.

IIRC, one of the first thing that disappeared when LEGO acquired BrickLink is
the ability to see when you placed an order, if your seller or buyer was logged
in.

That existed since 2000, and suddenly this disappeared.
I don't know the reason, of course, but I guess it's the same privacy
reason.

Here whe lived 5 years ago in a 1000 inhabitants town.
Right now it's another town with 5000.

That means showing the city may (of course not for NYC or Bombay) could make
it easy to localize someone.

Again, I'm not sure of anything, but in EU laws private people who register
on a web site are by default protected for being physically located (apart specific
agreement) for obvious reasons.

Note we're professionals, name and full address are in our Terms page, but
pros are another thing. In fact, it's even mandatory for us.
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In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Suggestions, tmtomh writes:
  Furthermore, based on your responses - and on a clear pattern evident in a lot
of the many, many other comments you post in other threads here - you are jumping
to conclusions to explain or in some cases defend the BL status quo, and you
are doing so without sufficient evidence or information to draw those conclusions.

I wouldn't say that. Sylvain is one of the most experienced members of this
site. You don't earn a violet brick without learning something in the process.

Thank you. But I've learnt not to talk to strangers in Forum!


  Now, as far as that other Sylvain goes… Well, that's a different story.

Agreed
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Is it possible to make an export of your order and import it to your own inventory.
Now I do that manually brick by brick. It would be great if you can make an CSV
file of all the parts you have ordered and import them easily into your own collection/inventory.
 Author: ChrstphrR View Messages Posted By ChrstphrR
 Posted: Feb 20, 2024 09:59
 Subject: Re: Allow/use WEBP image format for images on BL
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ChrstphrR (1)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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In Suggestions, DanialR writes:
  WEBP is not all it is cracked up to be. Google has made a number of claims about
the format that have not shown to be true in the real world.

While it has some great compression it sacrifices color space using 8-bit YUV
4:2:0 format.

With the subtle changes in some Lego colors, the 4:2:0 format could end up with
pictures that are misleading. Primarily with these color combinations Brown-ReddishBrown,
LightGray-LightBluishGray, DarkGray-DarkBluishGray along with possibly others.

Ah, I hadn't given the colour acuity enough thought with that. From my own
use, I haven't seen a huge degradation of image quality, or the quality of
the colours.

I don't tend to "crank up" the compression to the point that there's
a large distortion of the hundreds of images I've converted. Like the image
upload page's warnings about file size, or limiting animated GIFs to one
frame, it's quite possible there ought to be a lower limit to the compression
used on Webp.

To be frank, it's a bit of a hard go to discern those subtle changes in the
old/new gray bricks with good light, in person, being I'm just a non-colourblind
male, but lack some of the colour depth/acuity that women or mantis shrimp have.
So, I don't know how severe the problem of telling those more subtle colour
variations apart from images in JPG, GIF, PNG, or Webp.


Before I just make flippant comments:
- I know anecdotal evidence... isn't strong evidence.
- Colour acuity can be dependant on which particular pair of eyes are looking
at them, and that I only have one pair.

So, I'll do some digging, take some pictures, and do some comparisons, and
bring that back.

Fair warning: I don't think I have both of the Brown & Reddish-Brown brick
varieties to compare. I'll do my best with comparing other common colours,
and the two pairs of gray colours.
 Author: daxio View Messages Posted By daxio
 Posted: Feb 20, 2024 04:29
 Subject: Re: Add a bulk discount label to Price Guide ?
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Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Suggestions, daxio writes:
  There is already the black discount label on Items For Sale view - would it work
on the Price Guide ?

Thinking this through I see it would be abused and clutter up the Price Guide.
People would be doing 1% bulk reductions. A threshold, say 5%, could work better
but could still be abused I suspect. Eg. 5% off when you buy the entire stock
of 12457 black 3001 bricks..

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