Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | wildchicken13  | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:34 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
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NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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Free of what?
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free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)
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He's been released!
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| Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 06:10 | | Subject: | Re: 4493c01pb04 Horse | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Recent discussion regarding similar clone horse in red.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1443810
In Colors, Stuart9 writes:
| | Not in Lego horses, you might find other colours in clone versions.
In Colors, Emery2874 writes:
| | Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
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| Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 06:04 | | Subject: | Re: 4493c01pb04 Horse | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Not in Lego horses, you might find other colours in clone versions.
In Colors, Emery2874 writes:
| | Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
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| Author: | Emery2874 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 00:32 | | Subject: | 4493c01pb04 Horse | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
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| Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 17:44 | | Subject: | Re: Just want to vent about color consistency | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Looks like they might have used a mixture of MABS and ploycarbonate clear parts.
David
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 11:00 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Why are we still talking about this, there are many videos on YouTube discussing
the colour grey.(I recommend watching R.R. Slugger he knows just about all there
is to know about old Lego colours and sets)
Please time to move on and try to forget the poor decisions that Lego made.(like
retiring trans neon green)
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Pippysblocks writes:
| | It's because Lego replaced light grey with light bluish grey a long time
back so now all the light greys are harder to get, unfortunately.
In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
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It isn't even because it was a long time back. The price of light gray spiked
FAST. People have gotten used to LBG, maybe because they had to, but a year
after the switch light gray was rare and expensive. I think the custom builders
didn't want to make the switch.
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| Author: | SimplyBricks | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 06:03 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, coevorden01 writes:
| | In Colors, yorbrick writes:
| | In Colors, journey2020 writes:
| | In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
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Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
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Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?
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those were the days
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KEhWTnWvE
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| Author: | coevorden01 | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 05:04 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, yorbrick writes:
| | In Colors, journey2020 writes:
| | In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
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Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
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Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?
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those were the days
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 04:57 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, journey2020 writes:
| | In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
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Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
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Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2024 21:06 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Teup writes:
| | In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | Thank you guys!
I should have run a search on the Internet. I found this now: http://www.brickpile.com/articles/grey-bluish-gray-stone-grey-or-blay/
In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
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I had always believed 100% the change was made to save money. That was something
I respected. But now I read this for the first time https://news.lugnet.com/lego/?n=1791
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I always assumed it was because of Star Wars, that the old grey and dark grey
colors weren't quite up to snuff to depict SW sets.
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| Author: | journey2020 | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2024 15:35 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
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Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
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| Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2024 22:45 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
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| | What happened to colours 403 to 421?
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Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.
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Hmm, arithmetic isn’t your thing, eh? 
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It's only 18 different names for Gray but with recent dye lot differences,
it will be 50 shades.
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| Author: | yoavheskia | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2024 04:04 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Are you all serious? Is it really true? How many Browns Lego needs?
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| Author: | rylie_aitch | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 20:01 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown 
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
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I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
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Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping 
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
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I was referring to 339, which is also gone as of today.
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Ah yeah, of course. I'm still unsure if those transparent-effect colors actually
take up palette spots or not...
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 17:20 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
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| | What happened to colours 403 to 421?
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Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.
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Hmm, arithmetic isn’t your thing, eh?
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 17:14 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
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I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
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Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
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I was referring to 339, which is also gone as of today.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
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402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
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What happened to colours 403 to 421?
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Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.
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| Author: | rylie_aitch | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 16:50 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
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402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
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What happened to colours 403 to 421?
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What I wouldn't give to know 
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 16:48 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| | […]
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
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What happened to colours 403 to 421?
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| Author: | rylie_aitch | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 16:36 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
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I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
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Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 13:13 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| It’s as simple as this, if you can’t tell the difference in the renders, than
it’s a colour not needed.
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 12:51 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Saitolegos writes:
| | Really I don’t see why we need more colours. Just too many already! More confusion
is on the way in 2024.
However it would be awesome if they could revive an old retired colour.
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Agreed. Many recent colors are awfully similar to older colors. Hell, some of
them are virtually indistinguishable from one another. I believe this new Sienna
Brown looks like Dark Nougat.
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 12:38 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Really I don’t see why we need more colours. Just too many already! More confusion
is on the way in 2024.
However it would be awesome if they could revive a old retired colour.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
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Umber Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
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Hard to say with only renders but it indeed seems so
And Sienna Brown looks very much like Medium Brown. We need real comparisons.
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
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I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 11:38 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
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| Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 18:31 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| | | My ColorMunki Design colorimeter gave me #E04912 — better than a photo, taking
ambient lighting and post-processing out of the equation
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Then it might be Syracuse Red Orange (#E0430F) or Flame (#E25822)
------------ Red ----- Green ---- Blue
#E04912: 87.84% - 28.63% - 07.06%
#E0430F: 87.84% - 26.27% - 05.88%
#E25822: 88.60% - 34.50% - 13.30%
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| Author: | rylie_aitch | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, DanialR writes:
My ColorMunki Design colorimeter gave me #E04912 — better than a photo, taking
ambient lighting and post-processing out of the equation
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| Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 17:35 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | “Reddish Orange” it is. No Bricklinkification this time.
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If the picture accurately represents the color then it has a HEX value of #FF5100
International Orange (#FF4F00) is the closest recognized color.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_orange)
If you want to use the Official Register of Color Names, it fits closest to:
- Maximum Orange (#FF5B00)
- Taobao Orange (#FF4200)
(https://color-register.org/list/orange-color-names)
Dan
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| | “Reddish Orange” it is. No Bricklinkification this time. |
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 06:01 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
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| | *sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years. […]
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Not really.
Languages evolve by transforming their own words and borrowing (they don’t always
steal: they do sometimes give them back ) words from other languages to add
meanings, often to better describe what their locutors wanted and needed to describe,
or to replace words (the borrowed word replaces an older word… but that older
word also sometimes resurfaces with a slightly different meaning).
English evolved from a Germanic language, borrowed very little from Celtic languages,
borrowed a lot from Latin, a bit from Greek, then a lot from Norman French, then
a lot from all over the place. All that while it still created new words (compounding
them, deriving them…).
You can find the same Proto-Indo-European word (or rather root) three or four
times in English. For instance:
— from the Germanic: knowledge (akin to keen, uncouth, can…),
— from Greek: gnosis (and derivatives, prognosis, diagnosis…),
— from Latin: cognition (akin to ignorant, notice, noble…),
(— from French: connoisseur and maybe others closer to ‘knwoledge’ that I’m not
seeing right now).
Three different words, three similar but different meanings, same Proto-Indo-European
root: ǵneh₃.
But that’s not what I was bemoaning.
Here, I was talking of taking a lot of words, like vermilion, carmine, crimsom,
burgundy, scarlet, gules, etc., and saying: Well, they all mean red. Any red.
You can use them indiscriminately from dark red to light red, from orange to
purple. (And let’s randomly pick one for this new LEGO colour.)
No, those words each describe some kind of red, not any reddish
colour.
No language evolves by hoarding a dozen (or more) words and making them all synonyms
with a vague meaning.
And when you need to describe something precisely, like a colour in a catalogue,
you don’t pick one word at random. You compare all the possible words and look
at their usages… usages which are compiled in dictionaries
Or you create a phrase with more common and more comprehensible words
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| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 23:34 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, popsicle writes:
| | In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
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Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.
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Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.
| | Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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Fair point
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Ha ett gott nytt år
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 22:54 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, popsicle writes:
| | In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | […]
I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
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Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.
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Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.
| | Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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Fair point
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| Author: | psusaxman2000 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 22:45 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, tec writes:
| | Fanta orange
Nothing sounds more bricklinkish than naming colors in spite of Bigplasticorp
directives.
I still remember when someone tackled a new entry with a blunt "alien pee
green"... lol... and it was a yellow at that time... rofl.
Keep up the good humour pals.
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Not Fanta, kick it old school....TANG
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 19:18 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | Why did they stop in 1969?
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The British Invasion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Invasion
In all seriousness, I don't know the answer to that question since that was
a bit before my time. It could very well have been because of the popularity
of British musical artists in America during the 1960s and the desire to be perceived
as speaking "English" instead of "American".
It could also have been a simple acknowledgement of the fact that, nearly two
centuries after the Declaration of Independence was signed, British and American
English were still, for the most part, mutually intelligible.
Or, like most of my forum posts, the whole thing could have been a joke.
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| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 18:51 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | […]
I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
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Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.
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Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.
| | Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 18:17 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | […]
I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
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Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets
it as -- not by their etymology. Dictionaries are documentation of how language
is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:56 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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That's just what Americans do: steal things from other countries and blend
them all together until they become indistinguishable from one another.
Re: American English, American cheese, Americans…
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:42 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
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NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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Free of what?
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free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:40 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
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NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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Free of what?
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:28 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
Who is Sancho?
(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )
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What's Nubs got to do with it?
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NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:03 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
Why did they stop in 1969?
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:02 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
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Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:59 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
Who is Sancho?
(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )
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What's Nubs got to do with it?
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.
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Fun fact: From 1923 to 1969, the official language of Illinois was American:
https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?clippingId=74230858
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:34 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, at least when it comes to distinguishing between
similar colors.
In my eyes, there's little difference between reddish orange and orangish
red, except perhaps for the fact that reddish orange is a bit more orange than
it is red and orangish red is a bit more red than it is orange, but that's
subjective and depends on the eye of the viewer. Both can be described as vermilion.
Wikipedia, and, by extension, Wiktionary, are generally written from a British
English perspective, so perhaps the word vermilion is used differently in British
English than in American English, but that would also be a good reason to use
it in the British sense here on BrickLink.
To me, Vermilion is the name of two separate but adjacent counties, one in the
U.S. state of Illinois, and another just across the border in Indiana:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_County,_Illinois
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermillion_County,_Indiana
It's also the name of two separate rivers in the same area:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_River_(Illinois_River_tributary)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_River_(Wabash_River_tributary)
Apparently, the early settlers got confused and thought the two rivers were one,
giving them the same name.
Maybe Vermilion is just an inherently confusing word? I don't even know whether
to spell it with one L or two.
| | That this meaning had been used to describe more colours (see again the reference
for “web vermilion,” with the use of the qualificative “web” to mark its deviation
from the main meaning),
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Then perhaps we should call the new color Web Vermilion? The sample on Wiktionary
looks pretty similar to the color of the parts in the picture Rylie posted.
Having only seen the new color in digital images but never in person, I'm
not in the best position to name it. I'll leave this one to the catalog people.
| | while still staying a ‘fancy’/rare word that no one uses
or really understands just adds reasons not to use it for this new LEGO colour.
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Amen.
| | Let’s sum this up:
— if you take the original meaning, it’s not the same colour,
— few know the word,
— its meaning has been expanded enough and transformed enough between languages
(one can read the wiktionary entries in other languages to see the different
colour swatches) to become at best vague, and at worst confusing.
Why would one want to use that word?
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To create even more confusion?
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
Who is Sancho?
(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )
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