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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.

Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.



No, no, no.  That’s the hill I chose to die for!
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.

Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.



No, no, no.  That’s the hill I chose to die for!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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  If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.

Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.

 Author: tec View Messages Posted By tec
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Eheh subtle and funny

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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
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Vermillion is a fancy English word for a bright reddish orange color similar
to the one shown above. Some shades are more reddish and some are more orangish,
but it's an apt description, at least in English, the Lingua Franca
of the internet. I understand that vermillon has a different meaning in Français.

If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

That this meaning had been used to describe more colours (see again the reference
for “web vermilion,” with the use of the qualificative “web” to mark its deviation
from the main meaning), while still staying a ‘fancy’/rare word that no one uses
or really understands just adds reasons not to use it for this new LEGO colour.

Let’s sum this up:
— if you take the original meaning, it’s not the same colour,
— few know the word,
— its meaning has been expanded enough and transformed enough between languages
(one can read the wiktionary entries in other languages to see the different
colour swatches) to become at best vague, and at worst confusing.

Why would one want to use that word?


  […]
But Reddish Orange and Vibrant Orange are both good names for this particular
color, at least in my own personal opinion.

Exactly.
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Fanta orange

Nothing sounds more bricklinkish than naming colors in spite of Bigplasticorp
directives.

I still remember when someone tackled a new entry with a blunt "alien pee
green"... lol... and it was a yellow at that time... rofl.

Keep up the good humour pals.
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In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
  In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

I'd keep it simple and go for "Reddish Orange".

Although, since the yellowish orange colors have been named "light orange"
on here, that implies darker colors should skew in the opposite direction of
red, and given that 402 is slightly darker and could fit in a gradient from orange
to dark orange, I also propose Medium Dark Orange (please no)
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In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

I'd keep it simple and go for "Reddish Orange".
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
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In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

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 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  Maybe Blood Orange?  Has anybody cut one of the new bricks yet?

No, but I've cut myself on one of them.
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Colours are already complicated enough.

Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Languages are already complicated enough.

Anyway, I think this more of a language/description issue than a color issue.
Vermillion is a fancy English word for a bright reddish orange color similar
to the one shown above. Some shades are more reddish and some are more orangish,
but it's an apt description, at least in English, the Lingua Franca
of the internet. I understand that vermillon has a different meaning in Français.

However, the catalog administrators seem to shy away naming colors using fancy
and/or obscure English words. Dark Red could be described as burgundy or maroon
and Bright Red could be described as crimson or scarlet. One possible exception
is Nougat, if only to avoid the racial connotations of flesh, tan, and off-white.

But Reddish Orange and Vibrant Orange are both good names for this particular
color, at least in my own personal opinion.
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No mustard! It should be called orange orange to reference the fruit it’s based
off of
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Colors, peregrinator writes:
  In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Carrot Orange would be the obvious choice.

Clementine Orange?

Would be nice taste to mix Nougat and Clementine.
And Mustard of course.

No, disgusting, but then we should make a petition to add Mustard as a BrickLink
color!!!
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In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Carrot Orange would be the obvious choice.
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In Colors, jennnifer writes:
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Ooh... how about Persimmon?



~Jen

No problem with me… except a persimmon is lighter than an orange.  (Fun fact:
a persimmon is called kaki in French… which is also the French word for
khaki (the khaki green colour) )

Maybe Blood Orange?  Has anyboy cut one of the new bricks yet?
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
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You mean like “Lilac”? What about “Violet”? Everybody is going to give you a
different answer.

More reasons not to add to past wrongdoings
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  “Vermillion” gets my vote.

Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Colours are already complicated enough.



Ooh... how about Persimmon?



~Jen
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  “Vermillion” gets my vote.

Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Colours are already complicated enough.


In French, and correctly (etymologically, not because I’m French ), vermillon
is rouge vif (bright red).  It’s a red that tire vers l’orangé
(goes towards some oranged tint), not some kind of orange that goes towards red.

Colour patches in these entries:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermilion
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermillon

French Wiktionary shows the real pigment (HgS).  Not the same colour as the LEGO
colour.

You can see the English entry has two patches: one closer to the French entry
and one more orange, called “web vermilion,” that could look like the new LEGO
colour.

You mean like “Lilac”? What about “Violet”? Everybody is going to give you a
different answer.
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  “Vermillion” gets my vote.

Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Colours are already complicated enough.


In French, and correctly (etymologically, not because I’m French ), vermillon
is rouge vif (bright red).  It’s a red that tire vers l’orangé
(goes towards some oranged tint), not some kind of orange that goes towards red.

Colour patches in these entries:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermilion
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermillon

French Wiktionary shows the real pigment (HgS).  Not the same colour as the LEGO
colour.

You can see the English entry has two patches: one closer to the French entry
and one more orange, called “web vermilion,” that could look like the new LEGO
colour.
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
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  LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.

Make a petition on change.org?

(For LEGO to adopt BrickLink names, of course )


Agreed!!
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“Vermillion” gets my vote.
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In Colors, uticabrix writes:
  LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.

Make a petition on change.org?

(For LEGO to adopt BrickLink names, of course )
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LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.

In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie
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But then, I am a cool color person.

~Jen

(Beware the sharks )
 
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

Neon Orange, I am sure.

I would call it Baby Food Orange. It's blech.

But then, I am a cool color person.

~Jen

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