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| Author: | 1001bricks  | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 10:19 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, domain writes:
| | Is there list of which other importing countries Bricklink currently or intends
to charge GST (or similar, e.g. VAT) for? Can't find to find this information
on the site, thanks.
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Simply Help button, search for "tax" maybe?
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| Author: | domain | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 09:32 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Is there list of which other importing countries Bricklink currently or intends
to charge GST (or similar, e.g. VAT) for? Can't find to find this information
on the site, thanks.
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 07:04 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, brick.warehouse writes:
| | It seems like Australian buyers will be charged GST as a hidden fee that only
appears during checkout.
In Australia, prices are usually listed as inclusive of applicable sales taxes.
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This will show to Australian buyers only on stores that are not located in Australia.
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Is it not possible to include GST upfront in the price guide and store listings
pages?
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As far as I know it is not possible with the current source code of Bricklink...
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 02:59 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Dingoboy writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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I hate this country, Govt ruined it
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Yeah, you're the only country that has to pay taxes... (facepalm)
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| Author: | Dingoboy | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 02:38 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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I hate this country, Govt ruined it
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 00:50 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | Why does this GST receipt shows 1001 bricks???
Do I owe something?!
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 27, 2023 00:31 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Why does this GST receipt shows 1001 bricks???
Do I owe something?!
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| Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 23:30 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, lukester1 writes:
| | We do not pay GST on second hand goods in Australia
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Are marketplaces expected to distinguish between new and second hand goods in
Australia?
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| Author: | lukester1 | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 23:23 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| | We do not pay GST on second hand goods in Australia |
| Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 23:18 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, deanonet writes:
| | 2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
If my store is a 'hobby business' without an ABN, it is not required
to collect GST, are you going to be able to 'turn off' GST collection
if this applies?
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The GST referred to under point 2 above is GST on your fees as a seller, not
GST that you as a seller collect from others.
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Do you have some kind of chart or image that shows a breakdown of these fees
and where they apply, for what reason?
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 23:02 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, deanonet writes:
| | 2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
If my store is a 'hobby business' without an ABN, it is not required
to collect GST, are you going to be able to 'turn off' GST collection
if this applies?
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The GST referred to under point 2 above is GST on your fees as a seller, not
GST that you as a seller collect from others.
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| Author: | deanonet | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 22:52 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| 2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
If my store is a 'hobby business' without an ABN, it is not required
to collect GST, are you going to be able to 'turn off' GST collection
if this applies?
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 22:29 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, skwashd writes:
| | | | | | Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
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Because of new online marketplace legislation, in many countries BrickLink is
considered to be the deemed supplier, not the BrickLink sellers. Since we are
now a Registered Business in Australia and our thresholds are high, we qualify
as having to collect the tax. This is a legal obligation for us, not an optional
service.
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Does this mean you will be issuing tax invoices with an ABN?
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Yes.
As shown in the Help page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
At the foot of the receipt you can see "TAX ID: UNKNOWN". This will be
filled in on receipts issued after this solution has been implemented.
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| Author: | skwashd | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 21:17 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, Nicks.Bricks.Au writes:
| | "BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method."
This is not how GST and Australian tax law works. The goods on bricklink are
not taxable unless the seller is a registered business.
Individuals buying and selling items do not pay GST to each other!
Only the service component of 3% bricklink fees is taxable here.
Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
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Because of new online marketplace legislation, in many countries BrickLink is
considered to be the deemed supplier, not the BrickLink sellers. Since we are
now a Registered Business in Australia and our thresholds are high, we qualify
as having to collect the tax. This is a legal obligation for us, not an optional
service.
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Does this mean you will be issuing tax invoices with an ABN? Or will you only
be issuing receipts with an ARN? If it is the latter will buyers be able to provide
their ABN and not pay GST on imports as per the law? https://www.ato.gov.au/business/international-tax-for-business/GST-on-imported-goods-and-services/Australian-business-importing-goods-and-services/#WhetherGSTapplies
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| Author: | maxlego | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 19:13 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Lol, question already answered by Russell in regards to bricklink being registered
business in Australia.
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, Nicks.Bricks.Au writes:
| | "BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method."
This is not how GST and Australian tax law works. The goods on bricklink are
not taxable unless the seller is a registered business.
Individuals buying and selling items do not pay GST to each other!
Only the service component of 3% bricklink fees is taxable here.
Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
|
Because of new online marketplace legislation, in many countries BrickLink is
considered to be the deemed supplier, not the BrickLink sellers. Since we are
now a Registered Business in Australia and our thresholds are high, we qualify
as having to collect the tax. This is a legal obligation for us, not an optional
service.
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| Author: | maxlego | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 19:10 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Australia is a large resource country and the government here was always concerned
about taxing resources which generate a lot of money for Australia. So the government
never was concerned about getting more tax revenue by lowering the thresholds
on imports or even raising GST but as I said before it is changing and there
has been talk of it but never really pursued.
Another thing to mention is that if Bricklink intends to charge GST it would
have to be registered as an Australian business and must quote their ABN number
when collecting GST. I assume that this has been done already.
Brett.
In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | […]
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
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I find it surprising that some countries had such a big threshold, even islands,
where transport cost would be a barrier. That’s unfair to the domestic market
to be able to buy from abroad without tax.
(Well, there’s the USA as a big example too )
For info, EU import VAT has always been due… there was only an exception for
low amounts (€22/£15) because it was too costly to collect (hurrah for internet
and marketplaces that can do the job for the government  ).
So, EU buyers don’t lose much (or even win) with the new scheme: we lost the
€22 exception (and some packages managed to fly under the radar) but we have
no brokerage fees from the postal & courrier services anymore. Well, when we
are not double-VATed… (though there hasn’t been posts about it for some time
now).
Seems AU buyers are losing in the change.
Any idea if the NZ buyers (who are next in line) will lose too?
(Norway should be like EU, or maybe more exactly like UK.)
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 19:07 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | Thanks Russell
Been a while, how have you been?
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It has been a while. Keeping very busy as you can imagine.
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 19:06 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Nicks.Bricks.Au writes:
| | "BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method."
This is not how GST and Australian tax law works. The goods on bricklink are
not taxable unless the seller is a registered business.
Individuals buying and selling items do not pay GST to each other!
Only the service component of 3% bricklink fees is taxable here.
Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
|
Because of new online marketplace legislation, in many countries BrickLink is
considered to be the deemed supplier, not the BrickLink sellers. Since we are
now a Registered Business in Australia and our thresholds are high, we qualify
as having to collect the tax. This is a legal obligation for us, not an optional
service.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:40 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, maxlego writes:
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However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
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I find it surprising that some countries had such a big threshold, even islands,
where transport cost would be a barrier. That’s unfair to the domestic market
to be able to buy from abroad without tax.
(Well, there’s the USA as a big example too )
For info, EU import VAT has always been due… there was only an exception for
low amounts (€22/£15) because it was too costly to collect (hurrah for internet
and marketplaces that can do the job for the government ).
So, EU buyers don’t lose much (or even win) with the new scheme: we lost the
€22 exception (and some packages managed to fly under the radar) but we have
no brokerage fees from the postal & courrier services anymore. Well, when we
are not double-VATed… (though there hasn’t been posts about it for some time
now).
Seems AU buyers are losing in the change.
Any idea if the NZ buyers (who are next in line) will lose too?
(Norway should be like EU, or maybe more exactly like UK.)
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| Author: | maxlego | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:24 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Thanks Russell
Been a while, how have you been?
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | To Australian sellers that have an ABN (Australian Business Number) and already
registered for GST, this won't effect them much. It will make the paperwork
a little better with GST quoted in the invoices and such. Plus it means money
just going round in circles as you get it back anyway when you do your bas and
able to claim the GST as credit against the GST you need to pay every month or
quarter or yearly, however you have it setup. Being registered for GST since
2003, its something that I have done anyway with importations that were charged
GST. At least now buying stock from overseas you will be able to claim it without
having to separate it as a non GST expense.
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
Whereabouts do you fill in your tax info? It says under seller profile but I
am unable to see it? Is there a direct link or does it still need to be implemented?
Brett.
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This will go live when the solution is deployed. June 1st is still the target.
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| Author: | Nicks.Bricks.Au | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:18 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| "BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method."
This is not how GST and Australian tax law works. The goods on bricklink are
not taxable unless the seller is a registered business.
Individuals buying and selling items do not pay GST to each other!
Only the service component of 3% bricklink fees is taxable here.
Prepare to loose all your Australian customers over this farce.
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:16 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, maxlego writes:
| | To Australian sellers that have an ABN (Australian Business Number) and already
registered for GST, this won't effect them much. It will make the paperwork
a little better with GST quoted in the invoices and such. Plus it means money
just going round in circles as you get it back anyway when you do your bas and
able to claim the GST as credit against the GST you need to pay every month or
quarter or yearly, however you have it setup. Being registered for GST since
2003, its something that I have done anyway with importations that were charged
GST. At least now buying stock from overseas you will be able to claim it without
having to separate it as a non GST expense.
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
Whereabouts do you fill in your tax info? It says under seller profile but I
am unable to see it? Is there a direct link or does it still need to be implemented?
Brett.
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This will go live when the solution is deployed. June 1st is still the target.
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| Author: | maxlego | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 18:11 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| To Australian sellers that have an ABN (Australian Business Number) and already
registered for GST, this won't effect them much. It will make the paperwork
a little better with GST quoted in the invoices and such. Plus it means money
just going round in circles as you get it back anyway when you do your bas and
able to claim the GST as credit against the GST you need to pay every month or
quarter or yearly, however you have it setup. Being registered for GST since
2003, its something that I have done anyway with importations that were charged
GST. At least now buying stock from overseas you will be able to claim it without
having to separate it as a non GST expense.
However, I do feel for the buyers as under GST rulings you are not meant to be
charged GST and import charges on goods under $1000. However the last few years
it has been changing and with US state sales tax and VAT coming in over five
years ago, it was only a matter of time before this came to Australia and other
countries.
Whereabouts do you fill in your tax info? It says under seller profile but I
am unable to see it? Is there a direct link or does it still need to be implemented?
Brett.
In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 08:27 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, jonwil writes:
| | Does this mean anything for an Australian seller who sells to an Australian buyer?
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No.
It’s like UK & EU (and soon Norway, and, I guess, New Zealand): it’s only for
importations.
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| Author: | jonwil | | Posted: | May 26, 2023 07:22 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| | Does this mean anything for an Australian seller who sells to an Australian buyer? |
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 11:52 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, QBricks writes:
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There's no GST payable on a private sale of used goods but say you bought
someone's used collection and resold it here and made a profit, then if you
were registered for GST, it would be payable on any value you add.
I believe you can claim a GST credit on used goods though, even if you didn't
pay any when you bought them.
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For VAT, that’s called the “margin VAT” scheme (you collect VAT only on your
margin, so it’s not that you deduct VAT you didn’t pay, it’s that what you paid
isn’t included in the calculation). And you can see a lot of threads here about
BL not supporting it….
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| Author: | QBricks | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 10:36 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Yogi_007 writes:
| | In Administrative, QBricks writes:
| | In Administrative, nevyn68 writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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Since when do we pay GST on 2nd hand goods?
New = Yes.... Used = No....
How are you going to seperate this?
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GST has always applied to second-hand goods from GST registered suppliers, so
there's no need for them to separate new and used.
For low value imports, the EDP/online marketplace is deemed to be the supplier,
so if the marketplace is GST registered, second-hand goods will attract GST.
https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/International-tax-for-business/GST-on-imported-goods-and-services/Australian-consumers-importing-goods-and-services/
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My understanding is that any GST is only collected when the item is first sold
if sold in Asutralia to Australians. And as such, the GST responsibility is
discharged at that time. Hence no additional GST on used items sold within Australia.
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There's no GST payable on a private sale of used goods but say you bought
someone's used collection and resold it here and made a profit, then if you
were registered for GST, it would be payable on any value you add.
I believe you can claim a GST credit on used goods though, even if you didn't
pay any when you bought them.
| | However, GST is payable on items sold to Australia from outside Australia.
What Id like comment on is whether this applies to the product only i.e. lego
bricks or whether it also applies to the shipping and other charges. The BL
help page suggests the whole order cost which I didnt believe was correct.
Yogi
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 10:17 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, QBricks writes:
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| | (Besides, if you have the same rules as us with VAT, there’s no GST/VAT on shipping
only when the seller “acts on behalf of the buyer.” That is, when the seller
charges the exact price they pay, no service added. As soon as the seller adds
a service (handling, or even commercial prices), then they don’t act on behalf
of the buyer any more, and everything is taxed.)
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We do pay GST on shipping but can claim a credit for that and any other GST we've
paid on purchases & other expenses against the GST that's payable on sales
and any other added services, handling etc.
It's done through a Business Activity Statement that we have to lodge with
the ATO every quarter.
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Yeah, that’s the same with VAT.
What I meant is that, but for stringent exceptions, shipping is considered a
product/service you offer and so you have to collect VAT on all of it (even if
you didn’t pay VAT on it / there’s no VAT to deduct).
When people look at the postal services, they see it’s “VAT-free” and they think
all shipping is untaxed.
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| Author: | QBricks | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 09:55 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, KynanG writes:
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Isn’t BL just the platform on which we buy from registered stores. I’d love to
see how many stores actually qualify for GST inclusion on here (75000aud).
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Probably more than you'd think. It's not just the order value that counts
towards the $75000 threshold, it's the total amount a buyer pays, including
shipping and handling.
| | Bit of a shame though I don’t reckon as many people will want to drop 10%gst
5%paypal 1%currency plus shipping on items which had their relevant gst paid
when first bought. Feeding too many mouths with each purchase.
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If you've bought from some of the larger Australian stores, you'd have
been paying GST, but it would have been included in the listed price, not shown
separately.
The tax on low value imports isn't a new thing, it was introduced in 2018,
it's just new to BrickLink. If you've bought from an overseas business
with a large enough turnover here, or from sellers on larger marketplaces you'd
have been paying it for the last few years.
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| Author: | QBricks | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 09:26 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, Yogi_007 writes:
| | […]
My understanding is that any GST is only collected when the item is first sold
if sold in Asutralia to Australians. And as such, the GST responsibility is
discharged at that time. Hence no additional GST on used items sold within Australia.
However, GST is payable on items sold to Australia from outside Australia.
What Id like comment on is whether this applies to the product only i.e. lego
bricks or whether it also applies to the shipping and other charges. The BL
help page suggests the whole order cost which I didnt believe was correct.
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It’s in the page linked by QBricks :
“When purchasing low value imported goods, shipping and insurance costs are part
of the price of the delivered goods that GST is calculated on.”
I think the rationale is: for importations, the government can’t check what is
what and wants to be sure they get taxes on everything, so everything is taxed.
On domestic sales, that it’s secondhand and shipping and insurance can be checked,
at least when auditing the seller, even if that doesn’t happen often.
(Besides, if you have the same rules as us with VAT, there’s no GST/VAT on shipping
only when the seller “acts on behalf of the buyer.” That is, when the seller
charges the exact price they pay, no service added. As soon as the seller adds
a service (handling, or even commercial prices), then they don’t act on behalf
of the buyer any more, and everything is taxed.)
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We do pay GST on shipping but can claim a credit for that and any other GST we've
paid on purchases & other expenses against the GST that's payable on sales
and any other added services, handling etc.
It's done through a Business Activity Statement that we have to lodge with
the ATO every quarter.
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| Author: | KynanG | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 08:37 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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Isn’t BL just the platform on which we buy from registered stores. I’d love to
see how many stores actually qualify for GST inclusion on here (75000aud).
Bit of a shame though I don’t reckon as many people will want to drop 10%gst
5%paypal 1%currency plus shipping on items which had their relevant gst paid
when first bought. Feeding too many mouths with each purchase.
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| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 08:05 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, Yogi_007 writes:
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Ive never paid for GST for an overseas item UNLESS it was collected by the selling
platform. This has been overlooked / too hard to implement by the local postal
service.
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Lucky you… well, not any more 
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Depends on the platform - BUT not on BL anymore 
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| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 08:04 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, Yogi_007 writes:
| | […]
My understanding is that any GST is only collected when the item is first sold
if sold in Asutralia to Australians. And as such, the GST responsibility is
discharged at that time. Hence no additional GST on used items sold within Australia.
However, GST is payable on items sold to Australia from outside Australia.
What Id like comment on is whether this applies to the product only i.e. lego
bricks or whether it also applies to the shipping and other charges. The BL
help page suggests the whole order cost which I didnt believe was correct.
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It’s in the page linked by QBricks :
“When purchasing low value imported goods, shipping and insurance costs are part
of the price of the delivered goods that GST is calculated on.”
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Missed that bit Must be my old eyes or scanning too fast or both !
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I think the rationale is: for importations, the government can’t check what is
what and wants to be sure they get taxes on everything, so everything is taxed.
On domestic sales, that it’s secondhand and shipping and insurance can be checked,
at least when auditing the seller, even if that doesn’t happen often.
(Besides, if you have the same rules as us with VAT, there’s no GST/VAT on shipping
only when the seller “acts on behalf of the buyer.” That is, when the seller
charges the exact price they pay, no service added. As soon as the seller adds
a service (handling, or even commercial prices), then they don’t act on behalf
of the buyer any more, and everything is taxed.)
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 08:01 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Yogi_007 writes:
| | […]
Ive never paid for GST for an overseas item UNLESS it was collected by the selling
platform. This has been overlooked / too hard to implement by the local postal
service.
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Lucky you… well, not any more
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 07:59 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Yogi_007 writes:
| | […]
My understanding is that any GST is only collected when the item is first sold
if sold in Asutralia to Australians. And as such, the GST responsibility is
discharged at that time. Hence no additional GST on used items sold within Australia.
However, GST is payable on items sold to Australia from outside Australia.
What Id like comment on is whether this applies to the product only i.e. lego
bricks or whether it also applies to the shipping and other charges. The BL
help page suggests the whole order cost which I didnt believe was correct.
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It’s in the page linked by QBricks :
“When purchasing low value imported goods, shipping and insurance costs are part
of the price of the delivered goods that GST is calculated on.”
I think the rationale is: for importations, the government can’t check what is
what and wants to be sure they get taxes on everything, so everything is taxed.
On domestic sales, that it’s secondhand and shipping and insurance can be checked,
at least when auditing the seller, even if that doesn’t happen often.
(Besides, if you have the same rules as us with VAT, there’s no GST/VAT on shipping
only when the seller “acts on behalf of the buyer.” That is, when the seller
charges the exact price they pay, no service added. As soon as the seller adds
a service (handling, or even commercial prices), then they don’t act on behalf
of the buyer any more, and everything is taxed.)
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| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 07:51 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, ghyde writes:
| | […]
Interesting. If I am the buyer and order within the next 24 hours, do I have
to manually pay GST on a parcel from the US?
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Don’t you already do that? Pay GST to the postman / delivery man when you import?
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Ive never paid for GST for an overseas item UNLESS it was collected by the selling
platform. This has been overlooked / too hard to implement by the local postal
service.
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| | I'm setting up to place an order and just need to know if I should expect
GST on something around $50-$60 AUD in value, not including GST.
So how does this work if the order gets paid so close to July 1?
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When the GST is (will be) collected by BL, there’ll be a receipt that the seller
will join to the package so that AU customs don’t re-collect it.
When the GST is not collected by BL / when there’s no proof it was collected,
you’ll pay it at reception.
| | I'm also looking into selling some LEGO parts, definitely after June 1st,
though, do I need to do anything in particular?
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As an Australian yourself, before or after that date, your obligations to Australy
are the same.
Check the help page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597 , there’s
a link to an Australian page explaining when you need to do something (register
for GST or not for instance…).
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You dont need to register for GST if you sell less than $ 75k AUD turn over.
GST doesnt need to be added to your sales below that value of turnover. See
here: https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/GST/Registering-for-GST/ for local businesses.
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| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 07:34 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, QBricks writes:
| | In Administrative, nevyn68 writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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Since when do we pay GST on 2nd hand goods?
New = Yes.... Used = No....
How are you going to seperate this?
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GST has always applied to second-hand goods from GST registered suppliers, so
there's no need for them to separate new and used.
For low value imports, the EDP/online marketplace is deemed to be the supplier,
so if the marketplace is GST registered, second-hand goods will attract GST.
https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/International-tax-for-business/GST-on-imported-goods-and-services/Australian-consumers-importing-goods-and-services/
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My understanding is that any GST is only collected when the item is first sold
if sold in Asutralia to Australians. And as such, the GST responsibility is
discharged at that time. Hence no additional GST on used items sold within Australia.
However, GST is payable on items sold to Australia from outside Australia.
What Id like comment on is whether this applies to the product only i.e. lego
bricks or whether it also applies to the shipping and other charges. The BL
help page suggests the whole order cost which I didnt believe was correct.
Yogi
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 07:26 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, KynanG writes:
| | Will there be an option to forego adding gst to some items a user imports? To
my understanding it is not payable on secondhand goods here so I am not sure
where the money is going if we do get charged. Does BL have a link to the tax
code they are working within?
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See QBricks’ answer about secondhand items: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1412159
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| Author: | KynanG | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 03:45 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Will there be an option to forego adding gst to some items a user imports? To
my understanding it is not payable on secondhand goods here so I am not sure
where the money is going if we do get charged. Does BL have a link to the tax
code they are working within?
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| Author: | QBricks | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 02:03 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 139 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, nevyn68 writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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Since when do we pay GST on 2nd hand goods?
New = Yes.... Used = No....
How are you going to seperate this?
|
GST has always applied to second-hand goods from GST registered suppliers, so
there's no need for them to separate new and used.
For low value imports, the EDP/online marketplace is deemed to be the supplier,
so if the marketplace is GST registered, second-hand goods will attract GST.
https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/International-tax-for-business/GST-on-imported-goods-and-services/Australian-consumers-importing-goods-and-services/
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| Author: | nevyn68 | | Posted: | May 24, 2023 00:05 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 127 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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Since when do we pay GST on 2nd hand goods?
New = Yes.... Used = No....
How are you going to seperate this?
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 22, 2023 18:03 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| | | Now waiting for comments from Canadians….
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i still have headaches every year with taxes until its implemented
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 22, 2023 17:31 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, ghyde writes:
| | […]
Interesting. If I am the buyer and order within the next 24 hours, do I have
to manually pay GST on a parcel from the US?
|
Don’t you already do that? Pay GST to the postman / delivery man when you import?
| | I'm setting up to place an order and just need to know if I should expect
GST on something around $50-$60 AUD in value, not including GST.
So how does this work if the order gets paid so close to July 1?
|
When the GST is (will be) collected by BL, there’ll be a receipt that the seller
will join to the package so that AU customs don’t re-collect it.
When the GST is not collected by BL / when there’s no proof it was collected,
you’ll pay it at reception.
| | I'm also looking into selling some LEGO parts, definitely after June 1st,
though, do I need to do anything in particular?
|
As an Australian yourself, before or after that date, your obligations to Australy
are the same.
Check the help page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597 , there’s
a link to an Australian page explaining when you need to do something (register
for GST or not for instance…).
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| Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | May 22, 2023 17:19 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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Interesting. If I am the buyer and order within the next 24 hours, do I have
to manually pay GST on a parcel from the US?
I'm setting up to place an order and just need to know if I should expect
GST on something around $50-$60 AUD in value, not including GST.
So how does this work if the order gets paid so close to July 1?
I'm also looking into selling some LEGO parts, definitely after June 1st,
though, do I need to do anything in particular?
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 22, 2023 17:09 | | Subject: | Re: Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 110 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members, […]
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Thanks for the headsup, Russell
| | […]
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
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Hurrah!
(Still adding Australia, the $1000 limit, and the new help page to my copy-pasta
library though )
Now waiting for comments from Canadians….
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 22, 2023 17:00 | | Subject: | Australian Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 751 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Dear BrickLink members,
On June 1, 2023 we plan to implement new marketplace features and settings to
handle Australian Goods and Services Tax (GST). This will mostly affect transactions
where an Australian buyer is purchasing from stores outside of Australia, but
it will also affect all Australian BrickLink members to a degree (both buyers
and sellers).
Here is a summary of what will change:
1. BrickLink will now collect Australian GST for all orders being shipped into
Australia from the outside with a consignment value under $1,000 AUD. As with
other taxes collected on the BrickLink site, this means that all such orders
will require an onsite payment method.
2. When seller invoices go out on June 5th, GST will now be added to the invoice
for Australian sellers.
3. Australian business sellers who are GST registered will now have the option
to upload tax information to their BrickLink seller profile. GST will not be
added to the monthly fee invoice for such sellers.
We plan to send out emails to all affected BrickLink members later this week.
For a deeper explanation of this implementation, please see our new Help Page,
Australian Tax:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2597
Thanks for reading, and feel free comment below if you have further questions.
The BrickLink Team
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| Author: | Reki_Lobsheek | | Posted: | Apr 28, 2023 09:21 | | Subject: | Re: Some excellent news! | | Viewed: | 100 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Thanks for sharing this most excellent news!
Erikk
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 27, 2023 11:57 | | Subject: | Re: Some excellent news! | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| | | The way I read this, there was no actual increase. There just appeared to be
an increase because the tickets were not getting lost any more.
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+1
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