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In Catalog, cycbuild writes:

[…]
We never really get to see pure black and white. Interesting colors.

Or non-colour / all-colour

But then it also may be a cultural thing / translation problem. Colour names
are tricky and translations are never exact.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/*bhel-
https://www.etymonline.com/word/blank
https://www.etymonline.com/word/black

Yes, full of false friends. It’s rare but I’ve heard English-speaking people
say blanc (white) instead of noir for black

[…]
Â to ASCII - Contient une séquence UTF-8 valide

Oops. I forgot it was the very up-to-date BL forum here

https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/ch%C3%A2tain#Nom_commun_1

Translated to English - On marche sur le cor anglais
https://fr-wiktionary-org.translate.goog/wiki/ch%C3%A2tain?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en

The text isn’t important, I put the links only for the colour patches

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cycbuild

Posted:

May 18, 2023 15:16

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:

(The Hue value mostly corresponds to what we call tint or colour in everyday
language. Low Saturation would be “faded,” high “bright” or “vivid.” And Lightness,
well, it’s about black and white, with the “full” colour in the middle.)

We never really get to see pure black and white. Interesting colors.

But then it also may be a cultural thing / translation problem. Colour names
are tricky and translations are never exact.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/*bhel-
https://www.etymonline.com/word/blank
https://www.etymonline.com/word/black

¹ For the “real” chestnut fruit (châtaigne), we have the colour châtain,
which is used exclusively for hair and it’s not the same colour as English chestnut.
There’s colour patches here https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chestnut and https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/châtain

Â to ASCII - Contient une séquence UTF-8 valide
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/ch%C3%A2tain#Nom_commun_1

Translated to English - On marche sur le cor anglais
https://fr-wiktionary-org.translate.goog/wiki/ch%C3%A2tain?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en

Author:

TakeAbricK

Posted:

May 18, 2023 13:28

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Re: We have a new Catalog Associate!

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In Catalog, legoman77 writes:

In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:

Hello everybody,

Based on more than a year of excellent work, we have just promoted BrickLink
member TakeAbricK (Diana) to the Catalog Associate position:

https://www.bricklink.com/v3/member/community_experts.page

The Catalog Associate position is equivalent to the old Catalog Administrator
position with privileges on the catalog side only. After a year of activity in
the new area, Diana will be eligible for promotion to the new Catalog Administrator
position with privileges on both sides.

Diana was the first Inventories Administrator who exclusively used the new Inventory
Comparison Tool for inventory approval work:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/inventorycomparison/main.page?sourceB=1&invB=60001&sourceA=0&invA=60001-1

She has also done considerable work in improving the Help Pages for those contributing
inventories to the BrickLink catalog. For example, this page explaining the Inventory
Comparison Tool was just completed recently:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2594

This page also happens to contain the first-ever BrickLink-hosted color chart
comparing BrickLink color names with official LEGO color names.

We trust Diana will continue with the enthusiasm and dedication she has shown
over the past year. Please join me in welcoming her to this new position!

Thant is great. There is probably no one better anywhere on Bricklink. Her
knowledge goes far beyond that of mortal men. She always has been willing to
help and has built a lot of the catalog herself. Early experience with her when
I was selling, she is impeccably honest.
Such a good choice,
John P

Thanks again John P.

I have to thank you also for all these nice vintage sets. Especially the Samsonite
Sets. Much cheaper and easier to get back then.

Diana

Author:

TakeAbricK

Posted:

May 18, 2023 13:23

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Thank you all and my apology for the late reply.
I will do my very best as a Catalog Associate. I do miss the Inventory Side already

Diana

In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

May 18, 2023 11:55

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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In Catalog, ryanaitch writes:

aaaand already people are misusing it 😅

And it’s only going to become a bigger mess as time continues

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

May 18, 2023 11:50

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Re: Length of the ITEMID field

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In Catalog, xoshimin writes:

Thanks for your reply.
I thought the sequential ID was included in the ITEMID. I checked all xml files
and found all ITEMID [greater-than] 15

You mean ITEMID greater than 13

Disneylandparis-1
ClermontFerrand-1
ClermontFerrand-2

3 out of 3 are French. Yeah!

Hmm, why doesn’t Paris get a capital P?

TRUNEXOMONSTER-1
Regards
Alexei

Author:

xoshimin

Posted:

May 18, 2023 11:42

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Re: Length of the ITEMID field

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Thanks for your reply.
I thought the sequential ID was included in the ITEMID. I checked all xml files
and found all ITEMID 15
Disneylandparis-1
ClermontFerrand-1
ClermontFerrand-2
TRUNEXOMONSTER-1

Regards
Alexei

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

May 18, 2023 10:08

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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In Catalog, tanczy writes:

[…]
But I still think according to RGB values also that the Transparent Brown parts
are in a way darker and far away from simple Brown Color.

Technically, it’s a brown.
The HSL equivalent of #BBB29E is (rounded) H=41, S=18, L=68. Enter these values
here: https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_hsl.asp
You can play with the Saturation and Lightness fields to be more convinced.
(The Hue value mostly corresponds to what we call tint or colour in everyday
language. Low Saturation would be “faded,” high “bright” or “vivid.” And Lightness,
well, it’s about black and white, with the “full” colour in the middle.)

But then it also may be a cultural thing / translation problem. Colour names
are tricky and translations are never exact.

For instance, in French, common brown is called marron, from the fruit
of the horse chestnut tree¹. It’s now the generic term for every hue of brown.
The English word that etymologically correspond to it is “maroon.” But, in English,
that’s a particular colour that’s actually a dark red (#80000) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroon
.

The other way around, in French we have brun, which clearly is etymologically
linked to brown. It can also be a generic term for brown colours (more literary
/ older) but it’s more particularly used for dark brown hair and fur (brown bear
= ours brun, never ours marron).

And that’s with languages, English and French, that are close together.

Even when you know all these false friends, your brain still sees the etymological
link, the “they sound the same” link.

––
¹ For the “real” chestnut fruit (châtaigne), we have the colour châtain,
which is used exclusively for hair and it’s not the same colour as English chestnut.
There’s colour patches here https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chestnut and https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/châtain

Author:

tanczy

Posted:

May 18, 2023 07:10

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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Thank you for the answers and the link for the Color List.

OK, I admit, that the "Old Trans-Black" parts are kind of "brownish"
when compared with new Transparent Black, and if it is the official LEGO name,
it makes sense to name it that way.

But I still think according to RGB values also that the Transparent Brown parts
are in a way darker and far away from simple Brown Color.

In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:

In Catalog, tanczy writes:

Dear BrickLink Catalog Administrative Team,

Not me but…

I understand the reasoning and it's OK to have similar naming with official
LEGO colors.

But why exactly Transparent "Brown"?! Is it the color name, which is
used by LEGO for the items with color ID 111?

Yes, LEGO calls it Transparent Brown, and always have.

I'm asking because I could hardly connect the color of the "Old Trans-Black"
items to the color brown.

It does have a brownish teint. It’s “warm.”
If you look at the RGB values ( http://www.ryanhowerter.net/colors.php ), it’s
BBB29E (red 187, green 178, blue 158). It’s far from a pure grey (where R=G=B
or very near that).

Apparently, if you put the new Trans-Black next to it, this brownish teint is
even more obvious.

Author:

Stellar

Posted:

May 18, 2023 03:46

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In Catalog, ryanaitch writes:

aaaand already people are misusing it 😅

And those should probably be...

3065 Brick 1 x 2 without Bottom Tube
Parts: Brick

3066 Brick 1 x 4 without Bottom Tubes
Parts: Brick

Author:

rylie_aitch

Posted:

May 18, 2023 01:41

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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aaaand already people are misusing it 😅

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

May 17, 2023 16:58

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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:

Here's a quick snapshot that shows the difference. We are confident that
when seen together, the two colors will be easily distinguishable and that the
"Trans-Brown" name will make sense.

Yep, the right one is definitely Trans-Bluish Brown.

I’d have said it looks like squid ink (the thing they overuse in cooking shows,
yuck), that is, black with a tint of violet.

But squid ink has another name: sepia… which is brown when diluted and dry (hi
Nicéphore!).

So, yes, it’s all browns

Author:

maxx3001

Posted:

May 17, 2023 16:58

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:

Here's a quick snapshot that shows the difference. We are confident that
when seen together, the two colors will be easily distinguishable and that the
"Trans-Brown" name will make sense.

Yep, the right one is definitely Trans-Bluish Brown.

Hmm, to me it got more of a Trans-Grayish Brown feel….

Author:

1001bricks

Posted:

May 17, 2023 16:44

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Here's a quick snapshot that shows the difference. We are confident that
when seen together, the two colors will be easily distinguishable and that the
"Trans-Brown" name will make sense.

Yep, the right one is definitely Trans-Bluish Brown.

Author:

Admin_Russell

Posted:

May 17, 2023 15:04

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:

In Catalog, tanczy writes:

Dear BrickLink Catalog Administrative Team,

Not me but…

Yes, LEGO calls it Transparent Brown, and always have.

I'm asking because I could hardly connect the color of the "Old Trans-Black"
items to the color brown.

Here's a quick snapshot that shows the difference. We are confident that
when seen together, the two colors will be easily distinguishable and that the
"Trans-Brown" name will make sense.

Author:

brunocandeias

Posted:

May 17, 2023 09:58

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Re: HELP!

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In Catalog, bluetickbrick writes:

In Catalog, brunocandeias writes:

Hello!!

Any help with this dual head reference?

Regards

3626cpb1910 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Female Black Eyebrows, Light Orange Lips and Beauty Mark, Neutral / Angry Pattern (SW Rose) - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}

Thanks!!

Author:

bluetickbrick

Posted:

May 17, 2023 09:49

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Re: HELP!

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In Catalog, brunocandeias writes:

Hello!!

Any help with this dual head reference?

Regards

3626cpb1910 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Female Black Eyebrows, Light Orange Lips and Beauty Mark, Neutral / Angry Pattern (SW Rose) - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

May 17, 2023 09:40

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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In Catalog, tanczy writes:

Dear BrickLink Catalog Administrative Team,

Not me but…

Yes, LEGO calls it Transparent Brown, and always have.

I'm asking because I could hardly connect the color of the "Old Trans-Black"
items to the color brown.

Author:

tanczy

Posted:

May 17, 2023 09:09

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Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change

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Dear BrickLink Catalog Administrative Team,

I understand the reasoning and it's OK to have similar naming with official
LEGO colors.

But why exactly Transparent "Brown"?! Is it the color name, which is
used by LEGO for the items with color ID 111?

I'm asking because I could hardly connect the color of the "Old Trans-Black"
items to the color brown.
Why don't you name it as Trans-Light Black or Trans-Dark Gray or something
which represents the real color?

Best Regards,
Attila Tancziko

In Catalog, randyf writes:

Dear BrickLink members,

In May of this year, the LEGO Group plans to release a new color, and this has
implications for the BrickLink catalog and marketplace. The new color being introduced
is 375 Transparent Black, and we believe it will eventually replace LEGO color
111 Transparent Brown.

As most of you know, the greater fan community has for many years referred to
LEGO color 111 Transparent Brown as "Trans-Black". Up until now, this
name has served us well because there was no official LEGO color known as Transparent
Black. Now that the LEGO Group is introducing a color officially known as Transparent
Black, it will cause alignment problems to have the same name being used for
two different colors.

We anticipate that the introduction of this color will cause some disruptions
over the short term, but we have created a plan of action to minimize those disruptions.

The first thing we will do is change the name of the current Trans-Black color
to "Trans-Brown (Old Trans-Black)". This change is scheduled to
take place at the beginning of April. This will ensure that the name change will
be very noticeable within the catalog, set inventories, BrickLink stores, order
summaries, etc., so that the majority of BrickLink users can adjust to the change.

Next, the new color will be added to the catalog as "Trans-Black (2023)"
to make it very obvious that this is a new color and should not be used for older
set inventories and older parts being listed for sale. This addition is expected
to happen at the beginning of May when set 75346 is released and inventoried:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1398124

After a 6-month transition, we will remove the text in parentheses from both
color names. The older color will then be "Trans-Brown", and the
newer color will be "Trans-Black". This will complete the transition.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The question arises, why have we decided to go the route outlined above rather
than leaving "Trans-Black" aligned to LEGO color 111 Transparent Brown
and creating a new color name for the new LEGO color 375 Transparent Black? There
are several reasons.

First, we want to make sure that we do not create long-term confusion between
these colors, since we believe the new LEGO color 375 Transparent Black will
become the standard color and LEGO color 111 Transparent Brown will become just
another part of the history of the brick system we all know and love. As time
goes by, the older color will not be seen as often and the newer color will be
everywhere. And after what we hope is a relatively short period of time, BrickLink
users will adjust naturally to the change.

Second, coming up with a name for a new color is not an easy task. Although it
looks darker than the current LEGO color 111 Transparent Brown, it doesn't
look much different from what most people would say is some type of "transparent
blackish gray" color. Typically, new color names grow longer over time to
help distinguish from existing colors, so we could end up with something like
"Trans-Very Dark Bluish Gray".

Longer names are something we have come to accept in a catalog that covers the
entire history of LEGO colors, but it helps lower the entry barrier to BrickLink
when we can use simpler names at least for the most common colors. Using the
relatively short names "Trans-Brown" and "Trans-Black" are ideal
instead of retaining "Trans-Black" for the earlier color and creating
a longer name for the new color.

Finally, aligning the names of the two colors with the official LEGO color names
helps us future-proof the BrickLink catalog. By aligning these color names now,
we make sure that any other colors the LEGO Group may introduce within this range
in the future would not cause any further issues.

Thank you for your patience as we make this transition.

The BrickLink Catalog Administrative Team

Author:

rbritton31

Posted:

May 16, 2023 10:23

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Re: Wheel & Tire Assembly

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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:

In Catalog, rbritton31 writes:

How do you make a wheel and tire assembly part so it can be submitted to the
catalog. I want to be able to do this as so many Technic sets don't have
these done. I want to be able to put the back wheels with tire(3 parts) for the
42155 Batcycle and several others in the catalog. Any help would be great as
I have a few sets I can work on now.

Hello,

I am happy to help with this! Feel free to contact me directly with any questions.

~Jen

The quick answer is you add the new part here:

https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=P

while uploading an image for it here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

After it is approved, you add it to the set inventory here:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S

Find a similar part in the catalog to get a sense of the correct Category, Item
Name, and Item Number to use for your new part.

----------------------------------------------------------
All of these links can be found on the Catalog Add or Change page.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogAdd.asp?utm_content=subnav

The Help pages are here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=21

Will do...You have helped me with a few before.

Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

May 16, 2023 10:13

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Re: Wheel & Tire Assembly

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In Catalog, rbritton31 writes:

Author:

rbritton31

Posted:

May 16, 2023 09:42

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Wheel & Tire Assembly

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Open

Author:

BricksThatStick

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May 16, 2023 07:17

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Re: We have a new Catalog Associate!

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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:

Based on more than a year of excellent work

Indeed.

Nicely done Diana and here's to many more years

Author:

Shiny_Stuff

Posted:

May 15, 2023 15:24

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Re: Torso with Muscles or Not?

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In Catalog, randyf writes:

In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:

So, I am just wondering if "muscles outline" should be added to this
item description:

973pb4148c01 (Inv) Torso Shirt with Muscles Outline, Torn Collar, Yellow Neck, and Red Diamond with Ninjago Logogram 'VS' Pattern / Yellow Arms / Red Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor. {White}

There you go.

11092 Hand Gorilla Fist (fits Minifigure Hand)
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part {Yellow}

(that would be 2 Thumbs Up if minifigs had thumbs)

Author:

randyf

Posted:

May 15, 2023 14:57

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Re: Torso with Muscles or Not?

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