Discussion Forum: Catalog(Post New Message)
Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full      Show Messages: All | Without Replies

 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 18, 2023 15:32
 Subject: Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change
 Viewed: 47 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
In Catalog, cycbuild writes:
  […]
We never really get to see pure black and white. Interesting colors.

Or non-colour / all-colour


  
  But then it also may be a cultural thing / translation problem.  Colour names
are tricky and translations are never exact.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/*bhel-
https://www.etymonline.com/word/blank
https://www.etymonline.com/word/black

Yes, full of false friends.  It’s rare but I’ve heard English-speaking people
say blanc (white) instead of noir for black


  […]
 to ASCII - Contient une séquence UTF-8 valide

Oops.  I forgot it was the very up-to-date BL forum here


  https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/ch%C3%A2tain#Nom_commun_1

Translated to English - On marche sur le cor anglais
https://fr-wiktionary-org.translate.goog/wiki/ch%C3%A2tain?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en

The text isn’t important, I put the links only for the colour patches
 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: May 18, 2023 15:16
 Subject: Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change
 Viewed: 62 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  (The Hue value mostly corresponds to what we call tint or colour in everyday
language.  Low Saturation would be “faded,” high “bright” or “vivid.”  And Lightness,
well, it’s about black and white, with the “full” colour in the middle.)

We never really get to see pure black and white. Interesting colors.

  But then it also may be a cultural thing / translation problem.  Colour names
are tricky and translations are never exact.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/*bhel-
https://www.etymonline.com/word/blank
https://www.etymonline.com/word/black

  ¹ For the “real” chestnut fruit (châtaigne), we have the colour châtain,
which is used exclusively for hair and it’s not the same colour as English chestnut.
There’s colour patches here https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chestnut and https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/châtain

 to ASCII - Contient une séquence UTF-8 valide
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/ch%C3%A2tain#Nom_commun_1

Translated to English - On marche sur le cor anglais
https://fr-wiktionary-org.translate.goog/wiki/ch%C3%A2tain?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: May 18, 2023 13:28
 Subject: Re: We have a new Catalog Associate!
 Viewed: 43 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
In Catalog, legoman77 writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everybody,

Based on more than a year of excellent work, we have just promoted BrickLink
member TakeAbricK (Diana) to the Catalog Associate position:

https://www.bricklink.com/v3/member/community_experts.page

The Catalog Associate position is equivalent to the old Catalog Administrator
position with privileges on the catalog side only. After a year of activity in
the new area, Diana will be eligible for promotion to the new Catalog Administrator
position with privileges on both sides.

Diana was the first Inventories Administrator who exclusively used the new Inventory
Comparison Tool for inventory approval work:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/inventorycomparison/main.page?sourceB=1&invB=60001&sourceA=0&invA=60001-1

She has also done considerable work in improving the Help Pages for those contributing
inventories to the BrickLink catalog. For example, this page explaining the Inventory
Comparison Tool was just completed recently:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2594

This page also happens to contain the first-ever BrickLink-hosted color chart
comparing BrickLink color names with official LEGO color names.

We trust Diana will continue with the enthusiasm and dedication she has shown
over the past year. Please join me in welcoming her to this new position!

Thant is great. There is probably no one better anywhere on Bricklink. Her
knowledge goes far beyond that of mortal men. She always has been willing to
help and has built a lot of the catalog herself. Early experience with her when
I was selling, she is impeccably honest.
Such a good choice,
John P

Thanks again John P.
I have to thank you also for all these nice vintage sets. Especially the Samsonite
Sets. Much cheaper and easier to get back then.

Diana
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: May 18, 2023 13:23
 Subject: Re: We have a new Catalog Associate!
 Viewed: 34 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
Thank you all and my apology for the late reply.
I will do my very best as a Catalog Associate. I do miss the Inventory Side already


Diana



In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everybody,

Based on more than a year of excellent work, we have just promoted BrickLink
member TakeAbricK (Diana) to the Catalog Associate position:

https://www.bricklink.com/v3/member/community_experts.page

The Catalog Associate position is equivalent to the old Catalog Administrator
position with privileges on the catalog side only. After a year of activity in
the new area, Diana will be eligible for promotion to the new Catalog Administrator
position with privileges on both sides.

Diana was the first Inventories Administrator who exclusively used the new Inventory
Comparison Tool for inventory approval work:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/inventorycomparison/main.page?sourceB=1&invB=60001&sourceA=0&invA=60001-1

She has also done considerable work in improving the Help Pages for those contributing
inventories to the BrickLink catalog. For example, this page explaining the Inventory
Comparison Tool was just completed recently:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2594

This page also happens to contain the first-ever BrickLink-hosted color chart
comparing BrickLink color names with official LEGO color names.

We trust Diana will continue with the enthusiasm and dedication she has shown
over the past year. Please join me in welcoming her to this new position!
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 18, 2023 11:55
 Subject: Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change
 Viewed: 61 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
In Catalog, ryanaitch writes:
  aaaand already people are misusing it 😅

And it’s only going to become a bigger mess as time continues
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 18, 2023 11:50
 Subject: Re: Length of the ITEMID field
 Viewed: 25 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
In Catalog, xoshimin writes:
  Thanks for your reply.
I thought the sequential ID was included in the ITEMID. I checked all xml files
and found all ITEMID [greater-than] 15

You mean ITEMID greater than 13


  Disneylandparis-1
ClermontFerrand-1
ClermontFerrand-2

3 out of 3 are French.  Yeah!

Hmm, why doesn’t Paris get a capital P?


  TRUNEXOMONSTER-1
Regards
Alexei
 Author: xoshimin View Messages Posted By xoshimin
 Posted: May 18, 2023 11:42
 Subject: Re: Length of the ITEMID field
 Viewed: 32 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
Thanks for your reply.
I thought the sequential ID was included in the ITEMID. I checked all xml files
and found all ITEMID 15
Disneylandparis-1
ClermontFerrand-1
ClermontFerrand-2
TRUNEXOMONSTER-1

Regards
Alexei
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 18, 2023 10:08
 Subject: Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change
 Viewed: 58 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
In Catalog, tanczy writes:
  […]
But I still think according to RGB values also that the Transparent Brown parts
are in a way darker and far away from simple Brown Color.

Technically, it’s a brown.
The HSL equivalent of #BBB29E is (rounded) H=41, S=18, L=68.  Enter these values
here: https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_hsl.asp
You can play with the Saturation and Lightness fields to be more convinced.
(The Hue value mostly corresponds to what we call tint or colour in everyday
language.  Low Saturation would be “faded,” high “bright” or “vivid.”  And Lightness,
well, it’s about black and white, with the “full” colour in the middle.)


But then it also may be a cultural thing / translation problem.  Colour names
are tricky and translations are never exact.

For instance, in French, common brown is called marron, from the fruit
of the horse chestnut tree¹.  It’s now the generic term for every hue of brown.
The English word that etymologically correspond to it is “maroon.”  But, in English,
that’s a particular colour that’s actually a dark red (#80000) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroon
.

The other way around, in French we have brun, which clearly is etymologically
linked to brown.  It can also be a generic term for brown colours (more literary
/ older) but it’s more particularly used for dark brown hair and fur (brown bear
= ours brun, never ours marron).

And that’s with languages, English and French, that are close together.

Even when you know all these false friends, your brain still sees the etymological
link, the “they sound the same” link.

––
¹ For the “real” chestnut fruit (châtaigne), we have the colour châtain,
which is used exclusively for hair and it’s not the same colour as English chestnut.
There’s colour patches here https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chestnut and https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/châtain
 Author: tanczy View Messages Posted By tanczy
 Posted: May 18, 2023 07:10
 Subject: Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change
 Viewed: 60 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
Thank you for the answers and the link for the Color List.

OK, I admit, that the "Old Trans-Black" parts are kind of "brownish"
when compared with new Transparent Black, and if it is the official LEGO name,
it makes sense to name it that way.

But I still think according to RGB values also that the Transparent Brown parts
are in a way darker and far away from simple Brown Color.

In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, tanczy writes:
  Dear BrickLink Catalog Administrative Team,

Not me but…


  I understand the reasoning and it's OK to have similar naming with official
LEGO colors.

But why exactly Transparent "Brown"?! Is it the color name, which is
used by LEGO for the items with color ID 111?

Yes, LEGO calls it Transparent Brown, and always have.


  I'm asking because I could hardly connect the color of the "Old Trans-Black"
items to the color brown.

It does have a brownish teint. It’s “warm.”
If you look at the RGB values ( http://www.ryanhowerter.net/colors.php ), it’s
BBB29E (red 187, green 178, blue 158).  It’s far from a pure grey (where R=G=B
or very near that).

Apparently, if you put the new Trans-Black next to it, this brownish teint is
even more obvious.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: May 18, 2023 03:46
 Subject: Re: ATTN: BrickLink "Trans-Black" Color Change
 Viewed: 75 times
 Topic: Catalog
View Message
View
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
In Catalog, ryanaitch writes:
  aaaand already people are misusing it 😅

And those should probably be...

 
Part No: 3065  Name: Brick 1 x 2 without Bottom Tube
* 
3065 Brick 1 x 2 without Bottom Tube
Parts: Brick
 
Part No: 3066  Name: Brick 1 x 4 without Bottom Tubes
* 
3066 Brick 1 x 4 without Bottom Tubes
Parts: Brick
 

Next Page: 5 More | 10 More | 25 More | 50 More | 100 More