Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | rm8  | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 11:12 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 109 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Thank you for beeing polite.
In Administrative, firestar246 writes:
| | In Administrative, rm8 writes:
| | I know sellers, who have friend outside our contry, and that friend can help
with paying that fee. Most of seller will find the way to pay fee... So those
who can't (or don't want to find a way) - can be deactivated. That will
be better decision.
And just blocking all russian profiles is not only limiting sellers, but also
limiting byuers - kids and AFOLS/thier parents who may play LEGO as their only
way to hide from problems.
Artist can go mad if he will be limited to buy paints and brushes
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I'm sure there are other reasons that we don't know about. This is a
difficult time, with difficult decisions to make. No solution will satisfy all.
Our current events are a prime example that actions have consequences that affect
the innocent.
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 10:50 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 144 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, rm8 writes:
| | And just blocking all russian profiles is not only limiting sellers, but also
limiting byuers - kids and AFOLS/thier parents who may play LEGO as their only
way to hide from problems.
Artist can go mad if he will be limited to buy paints and brushes
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If the truth be told Bricklink/Lego are already being somewhat diplomatic about
their decision making for obvious reasons as they are an inclusive non political
organization.
However a lot of other organizations are being a lot more blunt as to why they
are imposing restrictions and so if you read between the lines it’s pretty clear
that many of these worldwide restrictions are intended so as to restrict funding
to your governments war effort rather than to intentionally hurt the Russian
people. Nobody wants to see the Russian people suffer yet only the Russian people
can decide whether they are willing to accept the path your government is taking
you down. No Mcdonalds might be easy to live without, No Bricklink less so, However
No livelihood/poverty well that might be intolerable for anyone and so isn’t
that the whole point?
i.e The realization that you deserve better from your own Government? A government
that truly thinks about its people rather than one mans dream!
Ukrainians have already lost everything and so are already having to fight for
what they want and at some point the Russian people may start to feel the same
way?
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| Author: | Yo_Yo_Flamingo | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 09:35 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 231 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
The LEGO Group released the following statement regarding the war in Ukraine.
Our thoughts are with all the children and families suffering as a result of
the war in Ukraine.
Our priority is the safety of all our colleagues. We are in contact with our
Ukrainian team and are providing ongoing support to ensure their safety. We are
also working to support other colleagues around the world impacted by the escalating
crisis including our team in Russia.
We have paused shipments of products to Russia given the extensive disruption
to the operating environment.
We care deeply about the lasting impact on children and together with the LEGO
Foundation and Ole Kirk’s Fond, we will donate DKK 110 million (approx. USD 16.5
million) to emergency relief efforts, with a focus on providing support for children
and families. The donation will be made to existing partners, including the United
Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), Save the Children, and the Danish Red Cross.
This is a volatile and constantly evolving situation which we are monitoring
closely.
What does this mean for BrickLink?
The global payment platforms we use on BrickLink are currently not available
in Russia and deliveries to and from the country are severely disrupted. Given
this, buying and selling activities in Russia will be temporarily deactivated.
Members impacted by this will be informed individually.
We are grateful for everyone in our community and never imagined we would face
a situation such as this or witness the heartbreak and devastation we’re seeing
in Ukraine.
Please continue to adhere to our community guidelines and show each other respect
and support.
Thank you for your understanding.
The BrickLink team
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Will items from Russian stores continue to remain visible when looking at the
catalog? That would seem a tad strange, as there is currently no way for buyers
to purchase those items. It's almost like those items don't exist at
all for now.
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 09:34 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, rm8 writes:
| | I know sellers, who have friend outside our contry, and that friend can help
with paying that fee. Most of seller will find the way to pay fee... So those
who can't (or don't want to find a way) - can be deactivated. That will
be better decision.
And just blocking all russian profiles is not only limiting sellers, but also
limiting byuers - kids and AFOLS/thier parents who may play LEGO as their only
way to hide from problems.
Artist can go mad if he will be limited to buy paints and brushes
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I'm sure there are other reasons that we don't know about. This is a
difficult time, with difficult decisions to make. No solution will satisfy all.
Our current events are a prime example that actions have consequences that affect
the innocent.
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| Author: | rm8 | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 09:26 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 130 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| I know sellers, who have friend outside our contry, and that friend can help
with paying that fee. Most of seller will find the way to pay fee... So those
who can't (or don't want to find a way) - can be deactivated. That will
be better decision.
And just blocking all russian profiles is not only limiting sellers, but also
limiting byuers - kids and AFOLS/thier parents who may play LEGO as their only
way to hide from problems.
Artist can go mad if he will be limited to buy paints and brushes
In Administrative, firestar246 writes:
| | In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
| | In Administrative, firestar246 writes:
| | In Administrative, Nikonov writes:
| | It's difficult to believe that you have decided to deactivate russian brickLink
stores after so many years of cobusiness. (((
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Well, what do you expect them to do considering current events? It's not
exactly easy (or possible in some cases) to exchange money and items with Russia.
And it seems like Russian sellers have no way to pay their fees currently, so
that adds a problem too.
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Russians could sell to other Russians without postage or payment problems, and
they have continued to be allowed to do so all this time. It seems it is the
not being able to pay the fees issue that caused the action here.
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Exactly, which is why I understand BL restricting Russian to Russian sales also;
because the sellers wouldn't be able to pay their fees.
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 08:54 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 136 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
| | In Administrative, firestar246 writes:
| | In Administrative, Nikonov writes:
| | It's difficult to believe that you have decided to deactivate russian brickLink
stores after so many years of cobusiness. (((
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Well, what do you expect them to do considering current events? It's not
exactly easy (or possible in some cases) to exchange money and items with Russia.
And it seems like Russian sellers have no way to pay their fees currently, so
that adds a problem too.
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Russians could sell to other Russians without postage or payment problems, and
they have continued to be allowed to do so all this time. It seems it is the
not being able to pay the fees issue that caused the action here.
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Exactly, which is why I understand BL restricting Russian to Russian sales also;
because the sellers wouldn't be able to pay their fees.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 06:44 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 137 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | I have always been for Bricklink and believed that it was
an independent platform!
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It is not independent. It is an American company owned by a large multinational
company based in Denmark. There have been policy changes to align it with LEGO
since LEGO bought it. Unlike McD and similar companies that run as franchises
in Russia, there is no Russian subsidiary that you can deal with that will keep
operating. You cannot use the service because you cannot pay to use the service
due to financial sanctions imposed by most international companies and banks.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 05:43 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 147 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TerminalTitan writes:
| | Do you think we like this whole situation in the world?! We are decent people
who understand everything, we are trying to get out of this difficult situation.
We are trying to find alternative solutions! We are generally against everything
that is happening in our country!
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You are expression your opinion against the official point of view of Russia.
Isn't that a dangerous thing to do? So far, as I see it you risk 15 years
of prison just by doing so, isn't that so? I really can't imagine what
it must be like to live like this... it must be frustrating and frightening..
I didn't think I'd get this kind of
| | news from Bricklink! I have always been for Bricklink and believed that it was
an independent platform!
In general, this is not a reason to turn off Bricklink in Russia due to payment
systems. It's not the Lego fans' fault!
If you close Bricklink, Favorite Cubes will find a way out and we will continue
to trade on or off Bricklink. But a huge number of Lego fans will not do this,
you will simply lose them! Silly! This is Bricklink's stupidest decision
ever! I do not respect this decision!
You will change the attitude of good people who are fans of Bricklink and Lego!
There are many good people in Russia in the real sense! You just don't know
anything! I don't want you to end up in such a mess.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 05:38 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 129 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TerminalTitan writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, TerminalTitan writes:
If you would like to change the country your store is associated with, you will
need to change the main address on your account first:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_address.asp
Then, you would need to change your store address, which is found on your store
management page:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page
After changing countries, you would need to go through the New Seller Verification
process again. This would require proof of address in the new country.
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Ok, Russell. Thx.
We work hard last month and open Limited Liability Partnership in Kazakhstan.
This gave us a chance to continue working with our foreign customers. Now we
will move the Bricklink Store to this country. There are all the necessary documents
and an address to confirm the existence in this country.
Admin_Russell, I and all guys from Favorite Cubes kindly ask you to make the
address change confirmation fast, as we cannot wait 1-2 weeks.
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This seems like a major change for your shop, are you moving all stock to the
new place in Kazakhstan? Are you also moving yourself to Kazakhstan and live
there?
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| Author: | TerminalTitan | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 04:48 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 167 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, TerminalTitan writes:
If you would like to change the country your store is associated with, you will
need to change the main address on your account first:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_address.asp
Then, you would need to change your store address, which is found on your store
management page:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/management.page
After changing countries, you would need to go through the New Seller Verification
process again. This would require proof of address in the new country.
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Ok, Russell. Thx.
We work hard last month and open Limited Liability Partnership in Kazakhstan.
This gave us a chance to continue working with our foreign customers. Now we
will move the Bricklink Store to this country. There are all the necessary documents
and an address to confirm the existence in this country.
Admin_Russell, I and all guys from Favorite Cubes kindly ask you to make the
address change confirmation fast, as we cannot wait 1-2 weeks.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 04:38 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 116 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TerminalTitan writes:
| | Do you think we like this whole situation in the world?! We are decent people
who understand everything, we are trying to get out of this difficult situation.
We are trying to find alternative solutions! We are generally against everything
that is happening in our country! I didn't think I'd get this kind of
news from Bricklink! I have always been for Bricklink and believed that it was
an independent platform!
In general, this is not a reason to turn off Bricklink in Russia due to payment
systems. It's not the Lego fans' fault!
If you close Bricklink, Favorite Cubes will find a way out and we will continue
to trade on or off Bricklink. But a huge number of Lego fans will not do this,
you will simply lose them! Silly! This is Bricklink's stupidest decision
ever! I do not respect this decision!
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Well, there are many many people losing much more due to the current circumstances.
Losing home, jobs, family, friends, life... so. This is how it works, sad as
it is. You know who to blame.
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You will change the attitude of good people who are fans of Bricklink and Lego!
There are many good people in Russia in the real sense! You just don't know
anything! I don't want you to end up in such a mess.
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 04:37 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 104 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
The LEGO Group released the following statement regarding the war in Ukraine.
Our thoughts are with all the children and families suffering as a result of
the war in Ukraine.
Our priority is the safety of all our colleagues. We are in contact with our
Ukrainian team and are providing ongoing support to ensure their safety. We are
also working to support other colleagues around the world impacted by the escalating
crisis including our team in Russia.
We have paused shipments of products to Russia given the extensive disruption
to the operating environment.
We care deeply about the lasting impact on children and together with the LEGO
Foundation and Ole Kirk’s Fond, we will donate DKK 110 million (approx. USD 16.5
million) to emergency relief efforts, with a focus on providing support for children
and families. The donation will be made to existing partners, including the United
Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), Save the Children, and the Danish Red Cross.
This is a volatile and constantly evolving situation which we are monitoring
closely.
What does this mean for BrickLink?
The global payment platforms we use on BrickLink are currently not available
in Russia and deliveries to and from the country are severely disrupted. Given
this, buying and selling activities in Russia will be temporarily deactivated.
Members impacted by this will be informed individually.
We are grateful for everyone in our community and never imagined we would face
a situation such as this or witness the heartbreak and devastation we’re seeing
in Ukraine.
Please continue to adhere to our community guidelines and show each other respect
and support.
Thank you for your understanding.
The BrickLink team
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Thanks for the update!
Stefaan
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| Author: | m.lushnikov | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 04:32 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 305 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TerminalTitan writes:
| | ... We are generally against everything
that is happening in our country! ...
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Don't speak for everyone.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 04:26 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 122 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear BrickLink members,
The LEGO Group released the following statement regarding the war in Ukraine.
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[snip]
| | Please continue to adhere to our community guidelines and show each other respect
and support.
Thank you for your understanding.
The BrickLink team
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Thank you BrickLink team, for this statement.
QFT.
Paul
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 04:18 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 186 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TerminalTitan writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, rm8 writes:
| | Hello,
does this mean we will be still able to log in and work with my inventory (export,
import, edit) in deactivated mode?
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Yes. Apart from the block at check out, your store and account privileges will
remain unchanged.
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Please explain in more detail.
1. Will buyers from Russia be able to buy domestically?
2. Will buyers from Russia be able to buy outside the country?
3. Will buyers outside the country be able to buy in Russia if the payment system
and delivery work.
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If you read the statement, the answers are no, no and no.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 04:17 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 135 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TerminalTitan writes:
| | Do you think we like this whole situation in the world?! We are decent people
who understand everything, we are trying to get out of this difficult situation.
We are trying to find alternative solutions! We are generally against everything
that is happening in our country! I didn't think I'd get this kind of
news from Bricklink! I have always been for Bricklink and believed that it was
an independent platform!
In general, this is not a reason to turn off Bricklink in Russia due to payment
systems. It's not the Lego fans' fault!
If you close Bricklink, Favorite Cubes will find a way out and we will continue
to trade on or off Bricklink. But a huge number of Lego fans will not do this,
you will simply lose them! Silly! This is Bricklink's stupidest decision
ever! I do not respect this decision!
You will change the attitude of good people who are fans of Bricklink and Lego!
There are many good people in Russia in the real sense! You just don't know
anything! I don't want you to end up in such a mess.
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The issue here is can you pay your fees? Yes, you can keep selling to other Russian
buyers (at least while you have stock, as LEGO have halted shipments to your
country) and they can pay using a domestic payment method. But can you pay for
using the service? With all regulated international financial systems blocking
money moving in and out of Ryssia, you cannot. It may seem stupid, but is it
fair on other sellers if they have to pay fees whereas Russians can build up
large debts without paying.
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| Author: | m.lushnikov | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 04:05 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 121 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | I haven't paid the fee yet, but can't we do it with UnionPay? |
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| Author: | TerminalTitan | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 02:56 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 231 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Administrative, rm8 writes:
| | Hello,
does this mean we will be still able to log in and work with my inventory (export,
import, edit) in deactivated mode?
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Yes. Apart from the block at check out, your store and account privileges will
remain unchanged.
|
Please explain in more detail.
1. Will buyers from Russia be able to buy domestically?
2. Will buyers from Russia be able to buy outside the country?
3. Will buyers outside the country be able to buy in Russia if the payment system
and delivery work.
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| Author: | TerminalTitan | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 02:56 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 383 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Do you think we like this whole situation in the world?! We are decent people
who understand everything, we are trying to get out of this difficult situation.
We are trying to find alternative solutions! We are generally against everything
that is happening in our country! I didn't think I'd get this kind of
news from Bricklink! I have always been for Bricklink and believed that it was
an independent platform!
In general, this is not a reason to turn off Bricklink in Russia due to payment
systems. It's not the Lego fans' fault!
If you close Bricklink, Favorite Cubes will find a way out and we will continue
to trade on or off Bricklink. But a huge number of Lego fans will not do this,
you will simply lose them! Silly! This is Bricklink's stupidest decision
ever! I do not respect this decision!
You will change the attitude of good people who are fans of Bricklink and Lego!
There are many good people in Russia in the real sense! You just don't know
anything! I don't want you to end up in such a mess.
|
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2022 02:28 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 152 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, firestar246 writes:
| | In Administrative, Nikonov writes:
| | It's difficult to believe that you have decided to deactivate russian brickLink
stores after so many years of cobusiness. (((
|
Well, what do you expect them to do considering current events? It's not
exactly easy (or possible in some cases) to exchange money and items with Russia.
And it seems like Russian sellers have no way to pay their fees currently, so
that adds a problem too.
|
Russians could sell to other Russians without postage or payment problems, and
they have continued to be allowed to do so all this time. It seems it is the
not being able to pay the fees issue that caused the action here.
|
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 25, 2022 19:40 | | Subject: | Re: EU distance selling - Online session | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| (typos corrected)
| | Lesson learned, it’s totally pointless to ask about laws and regulations on this
forum, nobody would take the responsibility for false information.
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It's not the real problem.
I'm not even sure of this info at this point; but this to YOU to search and
be sure.
The other point is WHY?
I mean, OK say you've 5% or 10% fees and shipping, it's not going to
make a big difference (apart if you're really close to this threshold of
10K€).
If you really wish to stay under the threshold, and if you're not rarely
selling International, it's going to be VERY complicated.
Suppose on October you're at 7950€ and you get a 2000€ order.
You're now at 9950€!
So, you will have to close your shop for the 2 remaining months in order
to stay above.
Is this really how you want to manage it?
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Mar 25, 2022 19:12 | | Subject: | Re: Important update reg. Ukraine and Russia | | Viewed: | 178 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, legoman77 writes:
| | Well said Tanja.
Some sellers will be hurt, however it was the only humane decision Lego and Bricklink
could make. And the donation, generous. I respect Lego and Bricklink and Tanja
even more for making the donation and taking the hard steps that are necessary.
The stores in Russia will suffer, but the bigger picture, including the financial
means to exchange funds from stores, is much more important. Perhaps there is
a way to let Russian stores sell to buyers within Russia.
Anyway Tanja, it is commendable and refreshing to see Lego and Bricklink take
a stand.
John P
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We explored a range of options, including whether it was possible to keep stores
open, but decided the best approach for now, given that global payment platforms
are unavailable, was to temporarily deactivate stores.
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